How to save our children from radicalization | Nadia Remadna | TEDxAvignon
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0:13 - 0:14(Documentary)
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0:14 - 0:17Journalist: Each new attack
revives her pain. -
0:17 - 0:20Aziza lost her son last year.
He was 22 years old. -
0:20 - 0:23Aziza: My son did not pray,
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0:23 - 0:26he was an ordinary kid,
he liked music, girls. -
0:26 - 0:29J: Samy had just found
a building caretaker job in Sevran. -
0:29 - 0:32It was actually at his workplace
that he was radicalized - -
0:32 - 0:35in four months, by a co-worker.
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0:35 - 0:39A: He didn't want to go to his sister's
wedding because of the social mix. -
0:39 - 0:43He didn't want to look
his site manager in the eye anymore, -
0:43 - 0:45nor shake her hand.
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0:45 - 0:47J: Samy then announced to his family
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0:47 - 0:49that he was going
on a pilgrimage to Mecca, -
0:49 - 0:51but, in fact, went to Syria.
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0:51 - 0:54A year later, he died in a car accident.
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0:54 - 0:59A: I know that he got married,
that I have a granddaughter there. -
1:00 - 1:01And after he died,
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1:01 - 1:06I just got a death certificate from ISIS.
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1:06 - 1:10J: Aziza decided to get involved
by joining The Mothers' Brigade, -
1:10 - 1:11an organization of parents
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1:11 - 1:14worried by the rise of radicalization
in their neighbourhoods. -
1:14 - 1:17A: Our goal is prevention,
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1:17 - 1:19to prevent young people from leaving.
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1:19 - 1:23Even if we only save one,
that's already a victory. -
1:23 - 1:26J: Disappointed by
the powerlessness of the state, -
1:26 - 1:30Aziza fights against the phenomenon
that stole her son from her. -
1:30 - 1:32(Applause)
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1:32 - 1:36Hello, I'm Nadia Remadna.
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1:36 - 1:38I'm going to tell you
why I created this organization -
1:38 - 1:40called The Mothers' Brigade.
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1:40 - 1:44I have several observations,
but I'll just share two today. -
1:44 - 1:48A few years ago, I had just gotten back
from vacation, from Algeria, -
1:48 - 1:53and, on the plane, I met a mother
who lives not far from my town, Sevran. -
1:53 - 1:57We talked a bit about
terrorism in Algeria - -
1:57 - 2:01yes, we'd lived through
nine years of terrorism in Algeria - -
2:01 - 2:05and what shocked me
when we arrived at the airport, -
2:05 - 2:07was that this mother, at Roissy,
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2:07 - 2:12takes out a scarf, veils her head,
and takes out a big dress. -
2:12 - 2:15I ask, "What are you doing?"
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2:15 - 2:19She tells me, "I don't want to go
into my neighbourhood like that." -
2:19 - 2:21I say, "But we've just come from Algeria,
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2:21 - 2:23a country that's had
nine years of civil war, -
2:23 - 2:25we're in France now,
and you veil yourself." -
2:25 - 2:27I was shocked. First observation.
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2:28 - 2:29Second observation:
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2:29 - 2:33One day, my son comes running home,
rings the doorbell and says to me, -
2:33 - 2:36"Mum, please, could you
take down the Christmas tree? -
2:36 - 2:39Because all my friends are telling me
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2:39 - 2:44that my mum is a non-believer
and that Santa Claus doesn't exist." -
2:44 - 2:46My son was eight years old at the time.
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2:46 - 2:48I go to see the kids, to find out
what the problem was. -
2:48 - 2:51Was it the Christmas tree that upset them?
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2:51 - 2:53The fairy lights? The Christmas baubles?
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2:53 - 2:55What upset them?
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2:55 - 2:58"No, to be a good Muslim
you must tell the truth. -
2:58 - 3:02You are lying to your children,
you are celebrating Christmas." -
3:02 - 3:03Second observation.
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3:03 - 3:07Well, unfortunately, later, in 2005,
there were riots in the suburbs. -
3:08 - 3:11Yes, riots in the suburbs, in 2005.
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3:12 - 3:15What did they propose to us?
The state appealed to whom? -
3:15 - 3:18Not the educators, nor the social workers,
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3:18 - 3:19nor the mediators.
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3:19 - 3:22To whom did they appeal?
To older brothers. -
3:22 - 3:27I was a single mother with four children,
so I was excluded straight off. -
3:27 - 3:30I felt that they took away
my parental authority. -
3:30 - 3:35Every time there was a problem:
"Go and see the older brothers." -
3:35 - 3:37Me, I'm a social worker.
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3:38 - 3:41I told myself, "Something's
got to be done." -
3:41 - 3:45So, I found a job
as a school mediator at a high school -
3:45 - 3:48in an Education Priority Area
in the Paris commune of Sevran. -
3:48 - 3:51On my first day,
I'm waiting for the principal. -
3:51 - 3:56In the corridor, I see
a person speak to a student -
3:56 - 3:57asking him this question:
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3:57 - 4:00"How come I didn't see you
at the mosque yesterday?" -
4:00 - 4:02I watch without intervening
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4:02 - 4:04because this was my first day at work.
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4:04 - 4:06The principal greets me,
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4:06 - 4:08"Hello",
- "Hello", -
4:08 - 4:11and the young man that said
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4:11 - 4:14"How come I didn't see you
at the mosque?" -
4:14 - 4:17came into the office
and sat down next to me. -
4:17 - 4:20I thought he'd be about 14 or 15,
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4:20 - 4:22so I question him, saying,
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4:22 - 4:25"You realize that this is a state school,
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4:25 - 4:27that France is a secular country,
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4:27 - 4:29just how might you say to a student,
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4:29 - 4:31'I didn't see you at the mosque'?"
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4:31 - 4:36The principal says to me,
"Say, Mrs. Remadna, -
4:36 - 4:40thank goodness I have
that quality of staff in my school. -
4:40 - 4:43If I didn't have them,
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4:43 - 4:47you realize, the school
would be a battlefield." -
4:47 - 4:50So I decided to start
The Mothers' Brigade. -
4:51 - 4:53So just why this organization exactly?
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4:53 - 4:56Because as a social worker,
there were too many barriers. -
4:56 - 4:59They train us for just that,
barrier upon barrier: -
4:59 - 5:03don't talk, don't act,
fill out the administrative work. -
5:03 - 5:05I needed to dispose of all that
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5:05 - 5:07that prevented me
from seeing what was happening. -
5:07 - 5:13I am often asked as a woman and a mother:
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5:13 - 5:15"Is it us, the mothers,
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5:15 - 5:18who've educated our children badly?
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5:18 - 5:19What's happened?"
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5:19 - 5:22I set up this organization,
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5:22 - 5:28and in setting up The Mothers' Brigade,
sure enough, I was wearing two hats: -
5:28 - 5:29I was a social worker,
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5:29 - 5:31and president of the organization
The Mothers' Brigade. -
5:31 - 5:35This, indeed, allowed me
to do a good grassroots job. -
5:35 - 5:38Given that we were stripped
of our parental authority, -
5:38 - 5:42it was up to us to reclaim
that parental authority -
5:42 - 5:46and bring France back
into the hearts of the neighbourhoods. -
5:46 - 5:49That's The Mothers' Brigade,
that was my goal. -
5:49 - 5:51That all the mothers, all the parents,
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5:51 - 5:53take back what was taken away from them.
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5:53 - 5:57Parental authority - it was given
to the older brothers. -
5:57 - 6:01Now, we have two big projects:
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6:01 - 6:05"The School of Mothers and the Republic"
and "Bridges of Understanding". -
6:05 - 6:07The first has four parts.
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6:07 - 6:09There's philosophy.
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6:09 - 6:10Why philosophy?
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6:10 - 6:12Because it allows criticism.
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6:12 - 6:16Because that's it, the problem too -
it's hard to say things. -
6:16 - 6:19Myself, I dare to say things.
It's not easy, but I do it. -
6:19 - 6:21And "Bridges of Understanding".
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6:21 - 6:24Because for me, it's easier
to build bridges than walls. -
6:24 - 6:27Because, looking at things,
I realized two things: -
6:27 - 6:29there was prejudice on both sides.
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6:29 - 6:31They always say to us:
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6:31 - 6:33"Them, they're the troublemakers,
they're racists." -
6:33 - 6:36And from the other side,
"Them, they're the thugs." -
6:36 - 6:38So, there were prejudices,
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6:38 - 6:40and that's why with
The Mothers' Brigade -
6:40 - 6:43we had nerve,
we were on the other side. -
6:43 - 6:47We got on the rapid transport train
to seek out the people of Paris. -
6:47 - 6:50We put it to them: "To Parisians,
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6:50 - 6:53radicalization is only a problem
for suburbanites." -
6:53 - 6:57That's not right, it affects everyone,
it concerns us all, -
6:57 - 7:01no matter our position in society,
our religion or lack of it. -
7:01 - 7:03We're all affected by the phenomenon
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7:03 - 7:06which, unfortunately,
exists within our local districts today. -
7:06 - 7:09Today, I can tell you
that in these districts, -
7:09 - 7:13we are - I often say:
what I say, I say for myself - -
7:13 - 7:15I say that our districts are Islamized.
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7:16 - 7:21And that's why we mothers,
us women, we fight ... -
7:21 - 7:24not for freedom, but to remain free.
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7:24 - 7:26Because in 2016, in France,
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7:26 - 7:28you know, we're supposed to be free.
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7:28 - 7:30And we're moving backwards.
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7:30 - 7:34The goal of The Mothers' Brigade
is to reclaim our districts, -
7:34 - 7:36reoccupy the public domain,
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7:36 - 7:38and above all, recover
what is most dear to us - -
7:38 - 7:40our children.
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7:40 - 7:44And that's why we're trying to put
these two projects into place, -
7:44 - 7:47because to tell the truth,
it's not easy, -
7:47 - 7:49we need the means, etc.
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7:49 - 7:51We have some volunteers, but too few,
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7:51 - 7:54especially where I come from,
Seine-Saint-Denis, -
7:54 - 7:56it's very, very difficult.
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7:56 - 7:58And today, I believe in it.
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7:58 - 8:02Why do I believe in it?
Because I say that a mum - -
8:02 - 8:06where is there a mum among you,
or a parent, a dad even - -
8:06 - 8:10who hasn't sent their son a text saying,
"Where are you, where are you?" -
8:10 - 8:13The reply, that's,
"Don't worry, don't worry!" -
8:13 - 8:14(Laughter)
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8:14 - 8:17My son once said, "Mum, in one month,
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8:17 - 8:20you've texted me
'Where are you?' 150 times." -
8:20 - 8:24And he replied
with "Don't worry" 150 times. -
8:24 - 8:28Imagine you have four kids,
that's a lot of "Where are you?". -
8:28 - 8:30(Laughter)
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8:30 - 8:33And with just that in mind,
we say to ourselves, -
8:33 - 8:38we can agree or disagree on many things,
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8:38 - 8:41but what brings us all together
in The Mothers' Brigade? -
8:41 - 8:43At The Mothers' Brigade, we've all sorts.
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8:43 - 8:47We have atheists, Muslims, Jews, everyone.
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8:47 - 8:49You know what brings us together?
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8:49 - 8:51I'll tell you: love of our children.
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8:52 - 8:56And for that alone exists
the obligation to fight together. -
8:56 - 9:00What you saw in the news report
where they showed Aziza ... -
9:00 - 9:04Unfortunately, we have more and more
mums coming to see us -
9:04 - 9:05because they are afraid.
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9:05 - 9:07And you know, I often say,
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9:07 - 9:10when your child
is having problems at school, -
9:10 - 9:12you go to see a teacher to help you.
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9:12 - 9:16When you're a victim of theft or whatever,
you go to the police station. -
9:16 - 9:19But when you have a child of 14 or 15
becoming radicalized, -
9:19 - 9:20you go to see whom?
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9:20 - 9:23That's the problem,
that's the aim of this organization, -
9:23 - 9:26to provide a place for raising awareness.
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9:26 - 9:29If we do nothing today,
in a few years, we'll regret it. -
9:29 - 9:33I spoke with two
or three people yesterday. -
9:33 - 9:36They said to me, "At Avignon,
it's not like that yet." -
9:36 - 9:38Where we live, ten years ago,
it was like that, -
9:38 - 9:41so if you do nothing, it will become
just like it is where we live now. -
9:41 - 9:44Now is the time to get up,
to get up together. -
9:44 - 9:46I don't know if there's
any politicians among you, -
9:46 - 9:50but I'd like to say that we shouldn't
fear giving a name to things, -
9:50 - 9:52because, today, there is a problem,
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9:52 - 9:55and we must fight together
and not against one another. -
9:55 - 9:58This organization is close to my heart.
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9:58 - 10:01Why? Because of my duty
as a French citizen, -
10:01 - 10:04I feel I need to fulfil it.
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10:04 - 10:07Often the young ask me,
"What is it that you do for us?" -
10:07 - 10:12And it's true that what we do,
we must do for our children. -
10:12 - 10:14I've lived through terrorism in Algeria,
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10:14 - 10:17and I can tell you, I fear for France,
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10:17 - 10:21I fear for my children,
I fear for everyone. -
10:21 - 10:25Well, you can join The Mothers' Brigade,
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10:25 - 10:27you can come fight with us,
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10:27 - 10:30you can come see
the reality of the situation, -
10:30 - 10:32and then dare to say,
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10:32 - 10:35"No, we shouldn't stigmatize,
it's not true, it's just a minority." -
10:35 - 10:37I can tell you that this is a reality.
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10:37 - 10:41I am confident that together
we can save our children and save France. -
10:41 - 10:42Thank you.
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10:42 - 10:44(Applause)
- Title:
- How to save our children from radicalization | Nadia Remadna | TEDxAvignon
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This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
They often take swift action among young people, women and families to fight against obfuscation and ignorance. Using simple methods befitting mankind, The Mothers' Brigade breaks down prejudices and fights against victimization and discrimination. The goal? To give us the keys to open the physical and psychological ghettos. In this conference, Nadia Remadna, president of this organization, invites us to stand up together and fight against the plague that is terrorism.
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- Duration:
- 10:51
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