1 00:00:06,950 --> 00:00:09,169 Can you introduce yourself ? 2 00:00:17,747 --> 00:00:22,275 Hello! My name is Dee. D. Mathieu Cassendo 3 00:00:22,275 --> 00:00:24,677 I’m a cartoonist, an illustrator. 4 00:00:25,539 --> 00:00:27,370 I create propaganda, 5 00:00:27,370 --> 00:00:29,750 and soon, queer pornography. 6 00:00:30,401 --> 00:00:33,911 I started drawing when I was five. 7 00:00:33,911 --> 00:00:35,258 Everyone draws when they’re little. 8 00:00:35,261 --> 00:00:37,621 My first “famous” drawing, 9 00:00:37,621 --> 00:00:40,231 which made my career 10 00:00:40,231 --> 00:00:46,251 is a pink dragon with stinging flames. 11 00:00:46,251 --> 00:00:49,451 But, professionally, 12 00:00:49,451 --> 00:00:52,111 I started putting my stuff online in 2011 13 00:00:52,181 --> 00:00:54,671 and creating small comic strips. 14 00:00:54,671 --> 00:00:56,651 My goal in life is to create a webcomic. 15 00:00:56,651 --> 00:00:59,201 Things that really interest me 16 00:00:59,201 --> 00:01:00,991 are the world of fantasy, 17 00:01:00,991 --> 00:01:03,931 how people interact, 18 00:01:03,931 --> 00:01:08,301 also within a world that is more real, 19 00:01:08,301 --> 00:01:10,161 in Laval, Montreal, very Quebecois, 20 00:01:10,161 --> 00:01:12,741 and definitely very Afro-Quebecois. 21 00:01:12,741 --> 00:01:16,061 La Petite Suceuse is my first book, 22 00:01:16,061 --> 00:01:18,681 in paperback. 23 00:01:18,681 --> 00:01:20,011 It’s the story of a young 24 00:01:20,107 --> 00:01:21,571 280 year-old girl. 25 00:01:25,140 --> 00:01:26,820 Who lives in a universe, 26 00:01:26,827 --> 00:01:29,297 in a Quebec, in 2302, 27 00:01:29,297 --> 00:01:30,127 in the future. 28 00:01:30,127 --> 00:01:32,547 We’re living in a leftist dictatorship. 29 00:01:32,547 --> 00:01:34,177 Everyone is very ecological. 30 00:01:34,177 --> 00:01:36,347 Education is free. 31 00:01:36,347 --> 00:01:38,287 But, no one is happy. 32 00:01:38,287 --> 00:01:42,287 No one is happy because Quebeckers 33 00:01:42,287 --> 00:01:44,527 have lost their right to vote. 34 00:01:44,527 --> 00:01:48,527 Because there is a world elite 35 00:01:48,527 --> 00:01:54,057 that is lead by people we call the Hemagis. 36 00:01:54,377 --> 00:01:58,773 And the Hemagis are people who have super-human powers 37 00:01:58,813 --> 00:01:59,533 but need to feed off of human blood. 38 00:02:02,708 --> 00:02:05,358 There are a lot of roles for the Hemagis. 39 00:02:05,952 --> 00:02:08,022 My protagonist, who is Magdalena, 40 00:02:08,022 --> 00:02:10,482 the young girl, has had enough, 41 00:02:10,482 --> 00:02:14,482 has had enough of being at the service of humans. 42 00:02:14,624 --> 00:02:18,364 Her role as a patroller is to walk the streets 43 00:02:18,364 --> 00:02:21,624 to ensure humans are not attacking other humans 44 00:02:21,624 --> 00:02:24,714 and she finds them really childish. 45 00:02:24,714 --> 00:02:28,714 She decides to start her own small revolution. 46 00:02:30,654 --> 00:02:33,424 There’s contempt among humans and 47 00:02:33,424 --> 00:02:35,914 Hemagis and the humans have really had it, 48 00:02:35,914 --> 00:02:37,814 but really had it with the Hemagis. 49 00:02:40,670 --> 00:02:43,120 Mag decides that she’ll give them a reason 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,410 to really hate them. 51 00:02:44,410 --> 00:02:46,640 And that’s the story in brief. 52 00:02:47,345 --> 00:02:48,585 [As a person who identifies as afro-feminist and queer.] 53 00:02:48,585 --> 00:02:52,295 I don’t just draw blue-eyed blonds I guess 54 00:02:52,295 --> 00:02:54,355 and apparently that surprises a lot 55 00:02:54,355 --> 00:02:56,815 of people. When I started to affirm myself 56 00:02:56,815 --> 00:03:00,275 more in my art and all that, 57 00:03:00,275 --> 00:03:02,545 there were a lot of people asking me 58 00:03:02,545 --> 00:03:05,795 why I only draw black women. 59 00:03:05,795 --> 00:03:08,715 And I’m like… (gestures toward herself) 60 00:03:09,512 --> 00:03:12,842 Why would I draw anyone else? 61 00:03:12,842 --> 00:03:15,692 You know, it’s not strictly that but 62 00:03:15,692 --> 00:03:17,862 black women, the black woman is 63 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:20,299 prominent in what I do but that’s because 64 00:03:20,299 --> 00:03:23,079 I’m surrounded by black women. 65 00:03:23,079 --> 00:03:25,299 I grew up with two sisters, one mother, 66 00:03:25,299 --> 00:03:27,089 I have a father, a brother too 67 00:03:27,089 --> 00:03:28,679 but you know women have always been 68 00:03:28,679 --> 00:03:29,332 really, really close. 69 00:03:29,332 --> 00:03:31,065 I find that being black is glorious! 70 00:03:31,085 --> 00:03:34,168 I find that women are really pretty. 71 00:03:34,837 --> 00:03:37,573 It’s like, it’s obvious that I’ll include 72 00:03:37,573 --> 00:03:38,863 them in the things I love, so, drawing. 73 00:03:39,746 --> 00:03:41,496 Black: everyone sees that I’m black. 74 00:03:42,933 --> 00:03:45,893 Woman: some still wonder. 75 00:03:47,539 --> 00:03:52,869 But, more political claims are invisible. 76 00:03:53,968 --> 00:03:57,108 Plus, in any case, in my case, 77 00:03:57,108 --> 00:03:59,478 it’s important to say them loud and clear. 78 00:04:00,873 --> 00:04:02,193 Afro-fem, yes. 79 00:04:02,193 --> 00:04:04,883 I still have, not necessarily a reluctance 80 00:04:04,883 --> 00:04:06,403 with the word Afro-feminist, 81 00:04:06,403 --> 00:04:09,743 but it’s just that when I learned what it really is, 82 00:04:09,743 --> 00:04:11,303 it was in a European context 83 00:04:11,303 --> 00:04:14,213 and the reality of Afropean women isn’t 84 00:04:14,213 --> 00:04:16,353 the same as Afro-Americans, 85 00:04:16,353 --> 00:04:18,793 Afro-Quebeckers, Afro-Canadians. 86 00:04:18,793 --> 00:04:21,633 In Quebec, we need to reaffirm ourselves 87 00:04:21,633 --> 00:04:24,553 in terms of the Black feminist struggle. 88 00:04:24,570 --> 00:04:28,570 It’s complicated because above all, 89 00:04:28,570 --> 00:04:32,570 we think “ah yea, afro struggles 90 00:04:32,570 --> 00:04:35,470 in general, it happens in the U.S., with 91 00:04:35,470 --> 00:04:38,710 Martin Luther King,” but it’s bigger 92 00:04:38,710 --> 00:04:40,840 than that. 93 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:42,790 If I use this label, 94 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:44,210 it’s because I want to. 95 00:04:44,210 --> 00:04:46,090 I respect people who refuse the label, 96 00:04:46,090 --> 00:04:47,610 it’s all good. 97 00:04:48,949 --> 00:04:53,479 But it’s also to, push me to learn more about it. 98 00:04:53,509 --> 00:04:57,449 I think that by using labels, 99 00:04:59,584 --> 00:05:03,584 it’s easier to navigate 100 00:05:03,584 --> 00:05:04,759 toward where you want to go. 101 00:05:05,799 --> 00:05:07,759 During the parade for St-Jean, 102 00:05:07,759 --> 00:05:12,029 which is the national holiday of Quebekers, I guess 103 00:05:12,029 --> 00:05:16,839 They decided to make it a green parade 104 00:05:16,838 --> 00:05:19,969 so people would be pushing the floats. 105 00:05:21,989 --> 00:05:22,810 On one of the floats, 106 00:05:22,810 --> 00:05:25,906 there was a female singer – 107 00:05:25,906 --> 00:05:29,586 I don’t know her name and don’t care to be honest 108 00:05:30,047 --> 00:05:32,427 with a long blue robe, singing: 109 00:05:32,437 --> 00:05:35,395 “My dear Quebec, it’s your turn!,” 110 00:05:35,395 --> 00:05:40,150 with lots of people, all white people, 111 00:05:40,150 --> 00:05:44,340 singing around [the float] with little fairytale motions. 112 00:05:46,070 --> 00:05:47,760 And around the float 113 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,930 with the little white woman, 114 00:05:49,930 --> 00:05:56,240 there were young racialized men pushing the float. 115 00:05:58,020 --> 00:06:00,560 I don’t know what the French expression is 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,960 but in Creole we say “En ba rèdi,” 117 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,180 like, they were really having a hard time. 118 00:06:07,145 --> 00:06:14,175 With costumes that the organizers said were parchment coloured 119 00:06:14,175 --> 00:06:18,175 with verses from poems on them, 120 00:06:18,773 --> 00:06:20,613 but from far, okay, 121 00:06:20,623 --> 00:06:22,433 it looked like slave clothing. 122 00:06:23,347 --> 00:06:25,947 You know, they still don’t realize 123 00:06:25,959 --> 00:06:27,559 the image it projected. 124 00:06:27,559 --> 00:06:29,709 Even after the rehearsals, to say to themselves 125 00:06:29,709 --> 00:06:31,589 “you know what, this is weird.” 126 00:06:31,589 --> 00:06:33,219 But no! Because they could care less. 127 00:06:33,219 --> 00:06:35,559 And that’s the “bottom line” of 128 00:06:35,559 --> 00:06:38,609 the diversity conversation in Quebec. 129 00:06:38,609 --> 00:06:41,789 People don’t care, simply put. 130 00:06:41,789 --> 00:06:45,159 And, they patted themselves on the back 131 00:06:45,159 --> 00:06:48,539 saying “Oh yes, we are good for diversity, 132 00:06:48,539 --> 00:06:50,169 we wanted to include the everyone.” 133 00:06:50,169 --> 00:06:52,779 But for them, inclusion means having 134 00:06:52,779 --> 00:06:54,629 people from an underserved neighborhood, 135 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:55,909 to have them do the shit jobs. 136 00:06:56,408 --> 00:06:59,308 Basically, there was a controversy 137 00:06:59,804 --> 00:07:01,874 because the image: 138 00:07:01,874 --> 00:07:03,954 it got people scared. 139 00:07:03,954 --> 00:07:06,554 It was extremely colonial 140 00:07:08,484 --> 00:07:11,374 but you could say it’s just Quebec 141 00:07:11,374 --> 00:07:12,694 putting its cards on the table. 142 00:07:12,974 --> 00:07:16,794 I told myself I needed to react 143 00:07:17,184 --> 00:07:20,004 because we’ve had it in Quebec with negative 144 00:07:20,004 --> 00:07:24,814 images when it comes black communities. 145 00:07:25,795 --> 00:07:26,795 If for Quebec, 146 00:07:26,795 --> 00:07:30,045 diversity is about having black people 147 00:07:30,045 --> 00:07:32,945 lifting up white people, because 148 00:07:32,945 --> 00:07:35,525 that’s what it was. 149 00:07:35,670 --> 00:07:39,350 Then, we’ll just “switch” places. 150 00:07:39,776 --> 00:07:41,996 So that's what I drew. 151 00:07:41,996 --> 00:07:45,073 With black people on a kind of platform, 152 00:07:46,593 --> 00:07:48,323 with pan-African flags, 153 00:07:48,733 --> 00:07:50,773 hyper “swagged up” 154 00:07:52,103 --> 00:07:54,353 with white people lifting them up 155 00:07:54,353 --> 00:07:57,053 wearing flesh-coloured robes. 156 00:07:58,596 --> 00:08:00,896 I said to myself, voila! That’s it. 157 00:08:01,094 --> 00:08:02,794 I got comments that were 158 00:08:02,794 --> 00:08:04,204 very much like “Ah, but you know, 159 00:08:04,204 --> 00:08:05,644 we’re not all racist.” 160 00:08:05,644 --> 00:08:07,394 or “Yes, but I’m not racist.” 161 00:08:07,785 --> 00:08:10,265 I find it disturbing to get messages 162 00:08:10,265 --> 00:08:12,275 from white people saying “Ah, yes, 163 00:08:12,275 --> 00:08:15,095 I’m happy to see what you’re doing, etc… 164 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:16,555 I hope you go kill all the white people 165 00:08:16,555 --> 00:08:20,555 in your stories.” But I’m like “What?” 166 00:08:23,175 --> 00:08:25,015 A lot of people have a hard time 167 00:08:25,015 --> 00:08:31,715 understanding the goal of my comics, 168 00:08:31,715 --> 00:08:35,225 that I identify with the word Afro-Quebecker. 169 00:08:37,076 --> 00:08:39,736 I don’t want to kill all the white people, 170 00:08:39,736 --> 00:08:41,996 “What the fuck?” Like, seriously? 171 00:08:42,939 --> 00:08:44,709 I have a big mouth and it’s bad 172 00:08:44,709 --> 00:08:46,859 when you’re on social media. 173 00:08:48,013 --> 00:08:49,793 But, it’s fun at the same time 174 00:08:49,793 --> 00:08:51,063 because it creates a community. 175 00:08:51,063 --> 00:08:52,193 There are people who get interested 176 00:08:52,193 --> 00:08:57,473 in your work and it creates opportunities to collaborate. 177 00:08:57,473 --> 00:08:58,623 It’s fun 178 00:08:59,359 --> 00:09:01,689 It's fun but not fun at the same time.