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"I start from the supposition [br]that the world is topsy-turvy--"

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"that things are all wrong,"

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"that the wrong people are in jail--"

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"and the wrong people are out of jail,"

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"that the wrong people are in power--"

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"and the wrong people are out of power,"

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"that the wealth is distributed in this country [br]and the world in such a way--"

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"as not simply to require small reform--"

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"but to require a drastic reallocation of wealth."

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"I start from the supposition that we don't have to [br]say too much about this because--"

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"all we have to do is think [br]about the state of the world today--"

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"and realize that things are all upside down."

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"Now if you don't think,"

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"if you just listen to TV and read scholarly things,"

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"you actually begin to think that [br]things are not so bad,"

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"or that just little things are wrong."

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"But you have to get a little detached,"

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"and then come back and look at the world,"

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"and you are horrified."

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"So we have to start from that supposition--"

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"that things are really topsy-turvy."

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"And our topic is topsy-turvy: [br]civil disobedience."

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"Now, as soon as you say--"

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"the topic is 'civil disobedience',"

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"you are saying our problem is 'civil disobedience'."

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"That is not our problem...."

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"Our problem is civil obedience."

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"Our problem is the numbers of people [br]all over the world--"

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"who have obeyed the dictates [br]of the leaders of their government--"

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"and have gone to war,"

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"and millions have been killed [br]because of this obedience."

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"We recognize this for Nazi Germany."

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"We know that the problem there was obedience,"

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"that the people obeyed Hitler."

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"People obeyed; that was wrong."

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"They should have challenged,[br]and they should have resisted;"

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"and if we were only there,[br]we would have showed them."

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"Even in Stalin's Russia we can understand that;"

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"people are obedient,[br]all these herdlike people."

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"Remember those bad old days when [br]people were exploited by feudalism?"

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"Everything was terrible in the Middle Ages--"

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"but now we have Western civilization, [br]the rule of law."

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"The rule of law--"

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"has regularized and maximized the injustice [br]that existed before the rule of law,"

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"that is what the rule of law has done."

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"When in all the nations of the world--"

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"the rule of law is the darling of the leaders[br]and the plague of the people,"

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"we ought to begin to recognize this."

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"We have to transcend these [br]'national boundaries' in our thinking."

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"Nixon and Brezhnev have much more in common with one another [br]than we have with Nixon."

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"J. Edgar Hoover has far more in common with the [br]head of the Soviet secret police than he has with us."

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"It's the international dedication to law and order[br]that binds the leaders of all countries in a comradely bond."

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"That's why we are always surprised[br]when they get together--"

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"they smile, they shake hands,[br]they smoke cigars,"

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"they really like one another[br]no matter what they say."

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"What we are trying to do, I assume,"

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"is really to get back to the principles and aims--"

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"and spirit of the Declaration of Independence."

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"This spirit is resistance to illegitimate authority--"

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"and to forces that deprive people of their life and liberty[br]and right to pursue happiness,"

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"and therefore under these conditions,"

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"it urges the right to alter or abolish[br]their current form of government--"

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"and the stress had been on 'abolish'."

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"But to establish the principles of [br]the Declaration of Independence,"

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"wefre gonna need to go outside the law,"

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"to stop obeying the laws that demand killing--"

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"or that allocate wealth the way it's been done,"

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"or that put people in jail[br]for petty technical offenses--"

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"and keep other people out of jail[br]for enormous crimes."

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"My hope--"

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"is that this kind of spirit will take place[br]not just in this country--"

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" but in other countries[br]because they all need it."

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"People in all countries need the spirit[br]of disobedience to the state,"

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"which is not a metaphysical thing--"

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"but a thing of force and wealth."

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"And we need a kind of [br]'declaration of interdependence'--"

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"among people in all countries of the world--"

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"who are striving for the same thing."