[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.88,0:00:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when I was in art school, Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.66,0:00:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I developed a shake in my hand, Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.08,0:00:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this was the straightest line I could draw. Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.12,0:00:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now in hindsight, it was actually good for some things, Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.77,0:00:12.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like mixing a can of paint or shaking a Polaroid, Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.96,0:00:15.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but at the time this was really doomsday. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.65,0:00:19.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the destruction of my dream of becoming an artist. Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.27,0:00:21.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The shake developed out of, really, Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.64,0:00:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a single-minded pursuit of pointillism, Dialogue: 0,0:00:23.55,0:00:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just years of making tiny, tiny dots. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.10,0:00:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And eventually these dots went from being perfectly round Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.100,0:00:33.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to looking more like tadpoles, because of the shake. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.68,0:00:35.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So to compensate, I'd hold the pen tighter, Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.93,0:00:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this progressively made the shake worse, Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.24,0:00:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'd hold the pen tighter still. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.52,0:00:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this became a vicious cycle that ended up Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.73,0:00:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,causing so much pain and joint issues, Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.96,0:00:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had trouble holding anything. Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.17,0:00:50.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after spending all my life wanting to do art, Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.56,0:00:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I left art school, and then I left art completely. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.17,0:00:57.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But after a few years, I just couldn't stay away from art, Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.63,0:00:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I decided to go to a neurologist about the shake Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.92,0:01:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and discovered I had permanent nerve damage. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.78,0:01:05.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he actually took one look at my squiggly line, Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.51,0:01:08.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "Well, why don't you just embrace the shake?" Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.93,0:01:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I did. I went home, I grabbed a pencil, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.54,0:01:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just started letting my hand shake and shake. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.45,0:01:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was making all these scribble pictures. Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.54,0:01:17.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And even though it wasn't the kind of art Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.37,0:01:21.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I was ultimately passionate about, it felt great. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.03,0:01:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And more importantly, once I embraced the shake, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.51,0:01:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized I could still make art. Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.88,0:01:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just had to find a different approach Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.15,0:01:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to making the art that I wanted. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.51,0:01:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I still enjoyed the fragmentation of pointillism, Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.35,0:01:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seeing these little tiny dots come together Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.18,0:01:36.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make this unified whole. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.16,0:01:39.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I began experimenting with other ways to fragment images Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.11,0:01:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the shake wouldn't affect the work, Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.29,0:01:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like dipping my feet in paint and walking on a canvas, Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.76,0:01:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, in a 3D structure consisting of two-by-fours, Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.46,0:01:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creating a 2D image by burning it with a blowtorch. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.92,0:01:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I discovered that, if I worked on a larger scale and with bigger materials, Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.27,0:02:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my hand really wouldn't hurt, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.68,0:02:04.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after having gone from a single approach to art, Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.28,0:02:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I ended up having an approach to creativity Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.53,0:02:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that completely changed my artistic horizons. Dialogue: 0,0:02:10.23,0:02:12.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This was the first time I'd encountered this idea Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.15,0:02:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that embracing a limitation could actually drive creativity. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.62,0:02:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time, I was finishing up school, Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.04,0:02:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was so excited to get a real job and finally afford new art supplies. Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.64,0:02:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had this horrible little set of tools, and I felt like Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.40,0:02:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could do so much more with the supplies Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.52,0:02:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought an artist was supposed to have. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.05,0:02:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I actually didn't even have a regular pair of scissors. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.25,0:02:36.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was using these metal shears until I stole a pair Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.76,0:02:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the office that I worked at. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.01,0:02:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I got out of school, I got a job, I got a paycheck, Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.94,0:02:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got myself to the art store, Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.60,0:02:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just went nuts buying supplies. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.71,0:02:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when I got home, I sat down Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.34,0:02:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I set myself to task to really try to create something Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.45,0:02:54.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just completely outside of the box. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.21,0:02:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I sat there for hours, and nothing came to mind. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.64,0:03:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same thing the next day, and then the next, Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.18,0:03:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quickly slipping into a creative slump. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.87,0:03:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was in a dark place for a long time, unable to create. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.12,0:03:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it didn't make any sense, because I was finally able Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.69,0:03:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support my art, and yet I was creatively blank. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.07,0:03:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as I searched around in the darkness, Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.28,0:03:21.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized I was actually paralyzed by all of the choices Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.81,0:03:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I never had before. Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.38,0:03:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was then that I thought back to my jittery hands. Dialogue: 0,0:03:28.10,0:03:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Embrace the shake. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.82,0:03:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I realized, if I ever wanted my creativity back, Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.49,0:03:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to quit trying so hard to think outside of the box Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.26,0:03:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get back into it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.97,0:03:42.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wondered, could you become more creative, then, Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.06,0:03:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by looking for limitations? Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.96,0:03:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What if I could only create with a dollar's worth of supplies? Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.14,0:03:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At this point, I was spending a lot of my evenings in -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.41,0:03:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, I guess I still spend a lot of my evenings in Starbucks — Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.18,0:03:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I know you can ask for an extra cup if you want one, Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.39,0:04:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I decided to ask for 50. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.78,0:04:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Surprisingly, they just handed them right over, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.57,0:04:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then with some pencils I already had, Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.56,0:04:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made this project for only 80 cents. Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.74,0:04:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It really became a moment of clarification for me Dialogue: 0,0:04:10.27,0:04:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we need to first be limited Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.15,0:04:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to become limitless. Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.20,0:04:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I took this approach of thinking inside the box Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.21,0:04:20.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to my canvas, and wondered what if, instead of Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.11,0:04:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,painting on a canvas, I could only paint on my chest? Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.44,0:04:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I painted 30 images, one layer at a time, Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.02,0:04:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one on top of another, Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.22,0:04:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with each picture representing an influence in my life. Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.72,0:04:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or what if, instead of painting with a brush, Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.38,0:04:37.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could only paint with karate chops? (Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.13,0:04:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'd dip my hands in paint, Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.60,0:04:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just attacked the canvas, Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.02,0:04:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I actually hit so hard that I bruised a joint in my pinkie Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.73,0:04:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was stuck straight for a couple of weeks. Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.66,0:04:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.03,0:04:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or, what if instead of relying on myself, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.23,0:04:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to rely on other people Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.16,0:04:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to create the content for the art? Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.82,0:05:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for six days, I lived in front of a webcam. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.61,0:05:03.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I slept on the floor and I ate takeout, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.25,0:05:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I asked people to call me and share a story with me Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.55,0:05:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a life-changing moment. Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.24,0:05:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their stories became the art Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.69,0:05:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I wrote them onto the revolving canvas. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.20,0:05:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:05:18.66,0:05:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or what if instead of making art to display, Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.16,0:05:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to destroy it? Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.42,0:05:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This seemed like the ultimate limitation, Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.70,0:05:30.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being an artist without art. Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.19,0:05:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This destruction idea turned into a yearlong project Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.74,0:05:34.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I called Goodbye Art, Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.09,0:05:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where each and every piece of art had to be destroyed after its creation. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.78,0:05:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the beginning of Goodbye Art, I focused on Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.28,0:05:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forced destruction, like this image of Jimi Hendrix, Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.00,0:05:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made with over 7,000 matches. Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.81,0:05:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.97,0:05:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I opened it up to creating art that was destroyed naturally. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.16,0:05:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I looked for temporary materials, Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.78,0:05:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like spitting out food -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:54.95,0:05:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) — Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.01,0:06:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sidewalk chalk Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.22,0:06:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even frozen wine. Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.76,0:06:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last iteration of destruction Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.82,0:06:12.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was to try to produce something that didn't actually exist in the first place. Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.86,0:06:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I organized candles on a table, I lit them, and then blew them out, Dialogue: 0,0:06:16.21,0:06:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then repeated this process over and over with the same set of candles, Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.85,0:06:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then assembled the videos into the larger image. Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.76,0:06:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the end image was never visible as a physical whole. Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.28,0:06:32.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was destroyed before it ever existed. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.12,0:06:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the course of this Goodbye Art series, Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.61,0:06:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I created 23 different pieces Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.44,0:06:40.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with nothing left to physically display. Dialogue: 0,0:06:40.75,0:06:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I thought would be the ultimate limitation Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.18,0:06:46.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually turned out to be the ultimate liberation, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.10,0:06:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as each time I created, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.31,0:06:50.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the destruction brought me back to a neutral place Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.32,0:06:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I felt refreshed and ready to start the next project. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.60,0:06:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It did not happen overnight. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.96,0:06:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were times when my projects failed to get off the ground, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.01,0:07:01.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or, even worse, after spending tons of time on them Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.80,0:07:04.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the end image was kind of embarrassing. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.31,0:07:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But having committed to the process, I continued on, Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.03,0:07:09.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something really surprising came out of this. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.04,0:07:12.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I destroyed each project, Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.01,0:07:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was learning to let go, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.84,0:07:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let go of outcomes, let go of failures, Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.35,0:07:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and let go of imperfections. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.88,0:07:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in return, I found a process of creating art Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.30,0:07:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's perpetual and unencumbered by results. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.53,0:07:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found myself in a state of constant creation, Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.56,0:07:32.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking only of what's next Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.06,0:07:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and coming up with more ideas than ever. Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.95,0:07:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I think back to my three years away from art, Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.44,0:07:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away from my dream, just going through the motions, Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.69,0:07:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead of trying to find a different way to continue that dream, Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.44,0:07:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just quit, I gave up. Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.64,0:07:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what if I didn't embrace the shake? Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.26,0:07:52.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because embracing the shake for me Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.45,0:07:55.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn't just about art and having art skills. Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.09,0:07:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turned out to be about life, and having life skills. Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.53,0:08:02.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because ultimately, most of what we do Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.04,0:08:07.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,takes place here, inside the box, with limited resources. Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.61,0:08:11.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Learning to be creative within the confines of our limitations Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.28,0:08:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the best hope we have to transform ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.36,0:08:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and, collectively, transform our world. Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.22,0:08:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Looking at limitations as a source of creativity Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.39,0:08:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed the course of my life. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.25,0:08:27.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, when I run into a barrier Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.94,0:08:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or I find myself creatively stumped, Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.05,0:08:32.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sometimes still struggle, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.60,0:08:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I continue to show up for the process Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.70,0:08:38.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and try to remind myself of the possibilities, Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.19,0:08:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like using hundreds of real, live worms to make an image, Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.79,0:08:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using a pushpin to tattoo a banana, Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.18,0:08:53.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or painting a picture with hamburger grease. Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.20,0:08:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.05,0:08:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of my most recent endeavors Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.66,0:09:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to try to translate the habits of creativity that I've learned Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.10,0:09:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into something others can replicate. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.29,0:09:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Limitations may be the most unlikely of places Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.14,0:09:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to harness creativity, but perhaps Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.54,0:09:14.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the best ways to get ourselves out of ruts, Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.21,0:09:18.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rethink categories and challenge accepted norms. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.11,0:09:21.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instead of telling each other to seize the day, Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.97,0:09:25.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe we can remind ourselves every day Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.93,0:09:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to seize the limitation. Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.45,0:09:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.91,0:09:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)