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Pat Mitchell: Your first time back on the TEDWomen stage.

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Sheryl Sandberg: First time back. Nice to see everyone. It's always so nice to look out

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and see so many women.

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It's so not my regular experience, [br]as I know anyone else's.

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PM: So when we first started talking about, maybe the subject wouldn't be social media,

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which we assumed it would be, but [br]that you had very much on your mind

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the missing leadership positions, particularly [br]in the sector of technology and social media.

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But how did that evolve for you as a thought, and end up being the TED Talk that you gave?

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SS: So I was really scared to get on [br]this stage and talk about women,

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because I grew up in the business [br]world, as I think so many of us did.

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You never talk about being a woman, because [br]someone might notice that you're a woman, right?

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They might notice. Or worse, if you say "woman," [br]people on the other end of the table

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think you're asking for special [br]treatment, or complaining.

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Or worse, about to sue them. [br]And so I went through -- (Laughter)

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Right? I went through my entire business career,

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and never spoke about being a woman, [br]never spoke about it publicly.

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But I also had noticed that it wasn't working.

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I came out of college over [br]20 years ago, and I thought

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that all of my peers were men and women, [br]all the people above me were all men,

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but that would change,

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because your generation had done such [br]an amazing job fighting for equality,

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equality was now ours for the taking. And it wasn't.

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Because year after year, I was one of fewer and fewer,

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and now, often the only woman in a room.

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And I talked to a bunch of people about,

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should I give a speech at TEDWomen [br]about women, and they said, oh no, no.

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It will end your business career. You [br]cannot be a serious business executive

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and speak about being a woman. [br]You'll never be taken seriously again.

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But fortunately, there were the few, the proud -- like you -- who told me I should give the speech,

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and I asked myself the question [br]Mark Zuckerberg might --

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the founder of Facebook and my boss --

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asks all of us, which is, what [br]would I do if I wasn't afraid?

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And the answer to what would I do if I wasn't [br]afraid is I would get on the TED stage,

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and talk about women, and leadership. [br]And I did, and survived. (Applause)

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PM: I would say, not only survived. [br]I'm thinking of that moment, Sheryl,

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when you and I were standing backstage [br]together, and you turned to me,

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and you told me a story.

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And I said -- very last minute -- you know, [br]you really should share that story.

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SS: Oh, yeah.[br]PM: What was that story?

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SS: Well, it's an important part of the [br]journey. So I had -- TEDWomen --

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the original one was in D.C. -- so I live here, [br]so I had gotten on a plane the day before,

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and my daughter was three, she was [br]clinging to my leg: "Mommy, don't go."

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And Pat's a friend, and so, not related [br]to the speech I was planning on giving,

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which was chock full of facts and [br]figures, and nothing personal,

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I told Pat the story. I said, well, [br]I'm having a hard day.

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Yesterday my daughter was clinging [br]to my leg, and "Don't go."

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And you looked at me and said, [br]you have to tell that story.

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I said, on the TED stage? Are you kidding?

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I'm going to get on a stage and admit [br]my daughter was clinging to my leg?

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And you said yes, because if you want to talk [br]about getting more women into leadership roles,

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you have to be honest about how hard it is.

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And I did. And I think that's a really [br]important part of the journey.

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The same thing happened when I wrote my book. [br]I started writing the book. I wrote a first chapter,

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I thought it was fabulous. It was [br]chock-full of data and figures,

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I had three pages on matrilineal Maasai [br]tribes, and their sociological patterns.

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My husband read it and he was like, this [br]is like eating your Wheaties. (Laughter)

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No one -- and I apologize to Wheaties if there's [br]someone -- no one, no one will read this book.

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And I realized through the process that I [br]had to be more honest and more open,

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and I had to tell my stories. My stories of still [br]not feeling as self-confident as I should,

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in many situations. My first and [br]failed marriage. Crying at work.

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Felling like I didn't belong there, [br]feeling guilty to this day.

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And part of my journey, starting on this stage, [br]going to "Lean In," going to the foundation,

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is all about being more open and [br]honest about those challenges,

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so that other women can be more open and honest,

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and all of us can work together towards real equality.

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PM: I think that one of the most [br]striking parts about the book,

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and in my opinion, one of the reasons it's hit such [br]a nerve and is resonating around the world,

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is that you are personal in the book, [br]and that you do make it clear that,

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while you've observed some things that are [br]very important for other women to know,

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that you've had the same challenges [br]that many others of us have,

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as you faced the hurdles and the barriers and [br]possibly the people who don't believe the same.

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So talk about that process: deciding [br]you'd go public with the private part,

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and then you would also put yourself in [br]the position of something of an expert

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on how to resolve those challenges.

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SS: After I did the TED Talk, what happened was --

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you know, I never really expected to write [br]a book, I'm not an author, I'm not a writer,

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and it was viewed a lot, and it really [br]started impacting people's lives.

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I got this great --- one of the first [br]letters I got was from a woman

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who said that she was offered a really big [br]promotion at work, and she turned it down,

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and she told her best friend she turned [br]it down, and her best friend said,

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you really need to watch this TED Talk.

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And so she watched this TED Talk, and she [br]went back the next day, she took the job,

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she went home, and she handed her [br]husband the grocery list. (Laughter)

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And she said, I can do this.

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And what really mattered to me -- it wasn't [br]only women in the corporate world,

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even though I did hear from a lot of [br]them, and it did impact a lot of them,

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it was also people of all different circumstances.

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There was a doctor I met who was an [br]attending physician at Johns Hopkins,

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and he said that until he saw my TED [br]Talk, it never really occurred to him

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that even though half the students in [br]his med school classes were women,

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they weren't speaking as much as [br]the men as he did his rounds.

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So he started paying attention, and as he waited for [br]raised hands, he realized the men's hands were up.

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So he started encouraging the [br]women to raise their hands more,

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and it still didn't work.

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So he told everyone, no more [br]hand raising, I'm cold-calling.

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So he could call evenly on men and women. [br]And what he proved to himself was that

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the women knew the answers just as well or better,

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and he was able to go back [br]to them and tell them that.

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And then there was the woman, stay-at-home [br]mom, lives in a really difficult neighborhood,

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with not a great school, she said that TED [br]Talk -- she's never had a corporate job,

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but that TED Talk inspired her to go to her school [br]and fight for a better teacher for her child.

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And I guess it was part of was finding my own voice.

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And I realized that other women and [br]men could find their voice through it,

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which is why I went from the talk to the book.

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PM: And in the book, you not only found your [br]voice, which is clear and strong in the book,

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but you also share what you've learned --

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the experiences of other people in the lessons.

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And that's what I'm thinking about [br]in terms of putting yourself in a --

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you became a sort of expert in how you lean in.

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So what did that feel like, and [br]become like in your life?[br]

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To launch not just a book, not just [br]a best-selling, best-viewed talk,

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but a movement, where people began to [br]literally describe their actions at work as,

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I'm leaning in.

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SS: I mean, I'm grateful, I'm honored, [br]I'm happy, and it's the very beginning.

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So I don't know if I'm an expert, or if anyone is [br]an expert. I certainly have done a lot of research.

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I have read every study, I have [br]pored over the materials,

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and the lessons are very clear. [br]Because here's what we know:

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What we know is that stereotypes are holding women [br]back from leadership roles all over the world.

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It's so striking. "Lean In" is very global, [br]I've been all over the world,

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talking about it, and -- cultures are so different.

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Even within our own country, to Japan, [br]to Korea, to China, to Asia, Europe,

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they're so different. Except for one thing: gender.

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All over the world, no matter what our cultures are,

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we think men should be strong, [br]assertive, aggressive, have voice;

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we think women should speak [br]when spoken to, help others.

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Now we have, all over the world,

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women are called "bossy." [br]There is a word for "bossy,"

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for little girls, in every language there's one.

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It's a word that's pretty much not used for little boys,

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because if a little boy leads, [br]there's no negative word for it,

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it's expected. But if a little girl leads, she's bossy.

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Now I know there aren't a lot of [br]men here, but bear with me.

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If you're a man, you'll have [br]to represent your gender.

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Please raise your hand if you've been [br]told you're too aggressive at work.

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(Laughter) There's always a few, it runs about [br]five percent. Okay, get ready, gentlemen.

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If you're a woman, please raise your hand if you've [br]ever been told you're too aggressive at work.

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(Laughter) That is what audiences have [br]said in every country in the world,

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and it's deeply supported by the data.

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Now, do we think women are more [br]aggressive than men? Of course not.

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It's just that we judge them through a different lens,

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and a lot of the character traits that you must [br]exhibit to perform at work, to get results, to lead,

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are ones that we think, in a man, he's a boss,

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and in a woman, she's bossy.

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And the good news about this is that we [br]can change this by acknowledging it.

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One of the happiest moments [br]I had in this whole journey is,

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after the book came out, I stood on a stage [br]with John Chambers, the CEO of Cisco.

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He read the book. He stood on a stage with me, he [br]invited me in front of his whole management team,

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men and women, and he said, I thought we [br]were good at this. I thought I was good at this.

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And then I read this book, and I [br]realized that we -- my company --

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we have called all of our [br]senior women too aggressive,

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and I'm standing on this stage, and I'm sorry.

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And I want you to know we're [br]never going to do it again.

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PM: Can we send that to a lot of other [br]people that we know? (Applause)

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SS: And so John is doing that because [br]he believes it's good for his company,

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and so this kind of acknowledgement [br]of these biases can change it.

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And so next time you all see [br]someone call a little girl "bossy,"

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you walk right up to that person, [br]big smile, and you say,

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"That little girl's not bossy. That little girl has [br]executive leadership skills." (Laughter)

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PM: I know that's what you're telling your daughter. [br]SS: Absolutely.

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PM: And you did focus in the book -- and [br]the reason, as you said, in writing it,

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was to create a dialogue about this.

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I mean, let's just put it out there, [br]face the fact that women are --

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in a time when we have more open [br]doors, and more opportunities --

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are still not getting to the leadership positions.

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So in the months that have come since the book,

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in which "Lean In" focused on that and said,

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here are some of the challenges that remain, and [br]many of them we have to own within ourselves

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and look at ourselves. What has changed?

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Have you seen changes?

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SS: Well, there's certainly more [br]dialogue, which is great.

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But what really matters to me, [br]and I think all of us, is action.

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So everywhere I go, CEOs, [br]they're mostly men, say to me,

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you're costing me so much money

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because all the women want to [br]be paid as much as the men.

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And to them I say, I'm not sorry at all. (Laughter)

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At all. I mean, the women should [br]be paid as much as the men.

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Everywhere I go, women tell me they ask for raises.

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Everywhere I go, women say they're getting [br]better relationships with their spouses,

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asking for more help at home, asking for the [br]promotions they should be getting at work,

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and importantly, believing it [br]themselves. Even little things.

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One of the governors of one of the states told me [br]that he didn't realize that more women were, in fact,

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literally sitting on the side [br]of the room, which they are,

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and now he made a rule that all the women [br]on his staff need to sit at the table.

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The foundation I started along [br]with the book "Lean In"

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helps women, or men, start circles -- small groups,

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it can be 10, it can be however many [br]you want, which meet once a month.

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I would have hoped that by now, we'd have [br]about 500 circles. That would've been great.

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You know, 500 times roughly 10.

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There are over 12,000 circles [br]in 50 countries in the world.

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PM: Wow, that's amazing.

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SS: And these are people who [br]are meeting every single month.

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I met one of them, I was in Beijing.

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A group of women, they're all about 29 or 30, [br]they started the first Lean In circle in Beijing,

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several of them grew up in very poor, rural China.

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These women are 29, they are told by [br]their society that they are "left over,"

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because they are not yet married,

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and the process of coming together [br]once a month at a meeting

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is helping them define who they are for themselves.

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What they want in their careers. The [br]kind of partners they want, if at all.

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I looked at them, we went around [br]and introduced ourselves,

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and they all said their names [br]and where they're from,

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and I said, I'm Sheryl Sandberg, [br]and this was my dream.

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And I kind of just started crying.

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Right, which, I admit, I do. Right? [br]I've talked about it before.

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But the fact that a woman so far away out in [br]the world, who grew up in a rural village,

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who's being told to marry someone [br]she doesn't want to marry,

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can now go meet once a month with [br]a group of people and refuse that,

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and find life on her own terms.

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That's the kind of change we have to hope for.

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PM: Have you been surprised by [br]the global nature of the message?[br]

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Because I think when the book first [br]came out, many people thought,

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well, this is a really important handbook [br]for young women on their way up.

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They need to look at this, anticipate [br]the barriers, and recognize them,

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put them out in the open, have the dialogue about it,

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but that it's really for women who are that. [br]Doing that. Pursuing the corporate world.

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And yet the book is being read, as you [br]say, in rural and developing countries.

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What part of that has surprised you, and [br]perhaps led to a new perspective on your part?

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SS: The book is about self-confidence, [br]and about equality.

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And it turns out, everywhere in the world, [br]women need more self-confidence,

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because the world tells us we're not equal to men.

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Everywhere in the world, we live in [br]a world where the men get "and,"

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and women get "or."

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I've never met a man who's been [br]asked how he does it all. (Laughter)

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Again, I'm going to turn to the men in the audience:

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Please raise your hand if you've [br]been asked, how do you do it all?

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(Laughter)

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Men only.

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Women, women. Please raise your hand [br]if you've been asked how you do it all?

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We assume men can do it all, [br]slash -- have jobs and children.

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We assume women can't, and that's ridiculous,

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because the great majority of women everywhere [br]in the world, including the United States,

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work full time and have children.

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And I think people don't fully understand [br]how broad the message is.

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There is a circle that's been started [br]for rescued sex workers in Miami.

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They're using "Lean In" to help [br]people make the transition

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back to what would be a fair life, really rescuing [br]them from their pimps, and using it.

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There are dress-for-success groups [br]in Texas which are using the book,

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for women who have never been to college.

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And we know there are groups [br]all the way to Ethiopia.

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And so these messages of equality -- of how women [br]are told they can't have what men can have --

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how we assume that leadership is for men, [br]how we assume that voice is for men,

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these affect all of us, and I [br]think they are very universal.

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And it's part of what TEDWomen does.

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It unites all of us in a cause we have to believe in,

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which is more women, more voice, more equality.

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PM: If you were invited now to [br]make another TEDWomen talk,

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what would you say that is a result [br]of this experience, for you personally,

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and what you've learned about women, and men,

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as you've made this journey?

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SS: I think I would say -- I tried to say this strongly,

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but I think I can say it more strongly --

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I want to say that the status quo is not enough.

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That it's not good enough, that it's [br]not changing quickly enough.

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Since I gave my TED Talk and published my book, [br]another year of data came out from the U.S. Census.

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And you know what we found?

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No movement in the wage gap [br]for women in the United States.

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Seventy-seven cents to the dollar.

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If you are a black woman, 64 cents.

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If you are a Latina, we're at 54 cents.

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Do you know when the last [br]time those numbers went up?

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2002.

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We are stagnating, we are [br]stagnating in so many ways.

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And I think we are not really being honest about that,

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for so many reasons. It's so [br]hard to talk about gender.

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We shy away from the word "feminist," [br]a word I really think we need to embrace.

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We have to get rid of the [br]word bossy and bring back --

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(Applause)

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I think I would say in a louder voice, [br]we need to get rid of the word "bossy"

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and bring back the word "feminist," [br]because we need it.

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(Applause)

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PM: And we all need to do a lot more leaning in.

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SS: A lot more leaning in.

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PM: Thank you, Sheryl.

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Thanks for leaning in and saying yes.

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SS: Thank you.

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(Applause)