What you have on the table...to me, you have a 30 kilowatt system. Maybe a 50 kilowatt system! ...heheh! Do you understand? Yeah, that's what I'm shooting for, basically, yeah! Book number two was, "The Structure Of The Light". It wasn't to talk about the light. It's to carry the information how matters move in the Universe. Book number two was, "The Structure Of The Light". It wasn't to talk about the light. It's to carry the information how matters move in the Universe. If you are a ball, and you want to fly in an environment, you have a big resistance, you have a big surface ahead of you. So when you narrow yourself, you become a ray, what we call a light; it's easier to go faster. So, book number one was about the structure, understanding it correctly. Book number two was about the movement of these things, and Book number three was about the collection of these things, how they behaved. Book number four shows conversion of these things into matter. What we call a Solar System. Solar Systems are a matter conversion system. A Solar System behaves like a blood vessel, converts energy into matter. Do you understand? So, go into understanding the structure of the plasma, not matter, then you understand, you want different layers of, let's say scintillation, through radiation, you can get scintillation with argon, you can get it in helium, you can get it even with nitrogen. In the body of man, scintillation is done by nitrogen, not by anything else. You don't have argon in your blood...or anything else. In the upper atmosphere on Earth, the scintillation conversion is done by nitrogen. In different parts of the universe, it's done by Argon, and heavier, because of the condition in the environment where they are. The closer you get to the center point, to what you call a black hole, or what we call Principle Matter, the stronger knife you need to cut. So, in your little tube in the back, you can produce as much energy as you like. You want to be warmer, you move closer to the Sun. You want to be cooler, you move to the Saturn. Do you understand? So, you have to find a position in respect to your center. With putting the ball in the middle, you dictate the center. You dictate the position of the center. When you have that core in the middle, and then you feed the vacuum outside it, you have already fixed the position of the center. Now move in your outer chamber where you want to be. Do you understand? Dr Keshe, can I put my nose in for a minute? Yes. If we, if we apply a magnetic field inside the tube, inside the plasma, would it affect it in a positive way, or ? Depends what you put in there, how you create it. Do you want to add to it, or do you want to withdraw from it? Do you understand? It depends what you want to do. You.. The way you have done your structure is fantastic. It's beautiful what you have done, the way you show it, with an outer chamber you built. With putting that plasma in the middle, you already have dictated the Sun. Right. You have the position of the Sun. Yes? Exactly. With your second chamber, you decide you want to be on the Earth position, or you want to be on Saturn. You want to be warmer, you come to the Earth. You want to take more energy out? You come to the Earth position. You want 100 kilowatts, you come to the Earth position, you go near your plasma. For ten watts, you go to Saturn position. You want a few microwatts, you go further out in the Pluto section. This is the easiest way to convert it. The closer you come to this point with putting that core in the middle, you have already fixed the position of the plasma. All the plasmas respond to that position. Unless one side is stronger, which then that plasma responds to them. You can make a stronger plasma outside, but you have to reposition it. This is what you call a 360 rotational speed. In the Space industry, in the Space Ship program, as you recall, it's in my papers, it's on the net... you use 120 degree separation reactors. So, you want to increase the direction of motion, you don't have a jet propulsion to go in that direction, and that direction. In Space technology, when you want to move like the Iranian's Space Ship Program, you see them flying at high speed, they use a specific combination of reactors. You want to create energy from a certain point, you bring the magnetic field into that position. Do you understand? So, you do the same thing in your reactor. It's one constant, it's one principle. It's the application which changes it. Do you understand? Yes, thank-you, yes. Ok, so...Sorry about that... So, to me, you have a 30 kilowatt system. Maybe a 60 kilowatt system. Do you understand? Yes, that's what I'm shooting for, basically, yeah. So, it depends how close you want to be. When we get too close to the Sun, we burn. Why? Because there is a stronger magnetic-gravitational field. With our bodies, we just dissolve into it. Heh? When you go further out, it's cooler because the fields have already lost their strength to the other fields in the area. Yes? And then, you have to understand the position of the gravity you create in your central core. The gravitational-magnetic field in your center core decides where the matter happens. If the Sun had a stronger gravitational-magnetic field, the matter of Earth most probably would have been in the Jupiter level. Or Saturn, yeah? But because it has such a gravitational grid, the Earth-matter conversion is at the position where it is now. You have the same thing in there. That's why I say, a farmer, a man, in a village in Africa, should be able to produce food, energy, from a simple system. If he goes in a car graveyard, everything to produce energy is in a car graveyard. And the cars are everywhere. If you have a mobile phone, using components of a mobile phone, you can create as much energy as you like. Understand the structure, and then the application is the same. ...We did have an idea to take a Plasma Ball and put a cell phone, a cell phone, tie it, tape it on to each side, and see what happens there, because you did mention something about cell phones, and... Yes, but as soon as you touch it, you create transfer of matter energy. You have to keep it away... We did a test...I had a knock on the door, they said, "Excuse me, do you mind shutting your system, the whole building has run out of, what do you call it, nobody can get through the communication lines." haha! ...Now, I'm talking a building five stories high, six stories high, all concrete, about 100 metres circumference easy, maybe more. With building a system of less than 10 centimetre, we could block the whole communication line. This is how...I wrote in there, that the people came and says, knock on the door, and says,"Can you close the thing down in your lab, because nobody can talk in the building any more." We realized the strength of it. Yes, right. You create the dynamic field which everything gets, stays, inside. The fields don't gravitate out, they can not move out, and whatever comes out from outside...This is how the satellite was captured, how the American plane was captured. You literally... the system is the size of a ...Smaller than a ping-pong ball, you can make it, Yeah? But it creates such a dynamicism that it...it doesn't block communication, it centralizes, like a centrifuge holds all the fields internally. So nothing can go, because it is stronger. You do the same thing with your system. It's not a jamming system, but you need this in deep space for specific uses. Where you want to absorb energy, when you run out of food, when you want to absorb energy, you can't wait until you are near a sun. You create in your reactor, conditions that all the smallest fields get absorbed and they get attracted, and you produce what you like from it. It's a process of understanding. In the system you have there, you can produce as much as energy for the rest of your life, if you know how to tap into it. You have, you have a power generator, right on the table! Right, well, that's our work, to unlock those secrets, and we appreciate your input on that. No secret. No, it's no secret. Look at the structure of the Universe. Yeah? We know it all... We denied the knowledge to ourselves. We have it all within us, it's just...That's why I say, peer reviewing. These people who peer review for their own pocket put that mindset on us. Yes, right. I know for me, it was a major revelation to to run into your writings and teachings, because it resonated so well to what I knew was true, and that I wasn't getting from the ordinary sources. You see, the understanding comes in stages. You can't understand everything altogether. DesirĂŠ was with me on Monday, in the office. We had a girl who flew in from Norway? Yeah. She has MS. Very young, only in early thirties, and we've been building MS systems for people to reverse, to try to find a solution for, MS. Six, seven years ago, I was very happy how I could get people with MS moving their legs or their feet, and whatever. Because I looked for physicality. And it's taken me ten years, more or less, in research in MS and that kind of thing, while I was putting the system on for her, I realized how far away from reality I have worked. Even within my research, because I ignored one of the most principle things which leads to production of MS. You understand, leads to causing MS. Now, I built a system for her which is totally different that before, but it's still a half-way house, because when I was putting, I learned more, exactly what to look for, and to move a step further. But I don't have that much knowledge to make the system. But now, I know what system I have to make, that in reality, it should be the size of a cup to sort the MS out. Not these shoes, and helmets and things which we reverse. Because I did what you did, I went for physicality. In learning, now I know where the gap in my knowledge has been, or I looked in the wrong direction, or I didn't have enough knowledge, to see the next step. But, is this step the final step? I don't think so. Because now, from what I understand, with the structure of the human body, exactly how you are learning from your tube, is, even you can give me MS without me knowing. I mean, I don't need my own body to create a disease. Other people can give you disease without them knowing. You understand? It's a condition of environment. You understand? So, you have the condition of the environment in that reactor. You have to be very careful. I work with these things...Don't ever stay near to them! Stay away always. Whenever you run your reactor, just because you don't see things, doesn't mean things don't happen. This is how I got the cancer of the pancreas and liver... I worked too close, so, just because you don't see anything, these things release different wavelengths. For you to see that light, which is in there, it means the light has to emit to get to you. So, it was in different levels of energy, yes? It's better to see further than closer. ...Right. Well, we do have a remote control for our magnetic drive motor here, and we are able to stand back for that kind of thing... You see, that pipe you have, from your reactor to your pump, is too short. It's too short...you are too close to it. Try to use, if you have the space, try to get rid of everything on the table, and leave your reactor, on its own, on a separate table, so it forces you to keep a certain distance. Right, good point. It's the way you have to work, to take care of yourself...