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What you have on the table...to me, you have a 30 kilowatt system.

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Maybe a 50 kilowatt system! ...heheh!

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Do you understand? Yeah, that's what I'm shooting for, basically, yeah!

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Book number two was, "The Structure Of The Light".

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It wasn't to talk about the light. It's to

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carry the information how matters move in the Universe.

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Book number two was, "The Structure Of The Light".

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It wasn't to talk about the light. It's to

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carry the information how matters move in the Universe.

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If you are a ball,

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and you want to fly in an environment,

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you have a big resistance, you have a big surface

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ahead of you. So when you narrow yourself, you become

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a ray, what we call a light; it's easier to go faster.

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So, book number one was about the structure, understanding it correctly.

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Book number two was about the movement of these things, and Book

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number three was about the collection of these things, how they behaved.

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Book number four shows conversion of these things into matter.

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What we call a Solar System. Solar Systems are a matter conversion system.

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A Solar System behaves like a blood vessel,

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converts energy into matter. Do you understand?

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So, go into understanding the structure of the plasma,

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not matter, then you understand, you want different

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layers of, let's say scintillation,

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through radiation, you can get scintillation

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with argon, you can get it in helium, you can get it even with nitrogen.

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In the body of man, scintillation is done by nitrogen,

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not by anything else. You don't have argon in your blood...or anything else.

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In the upper atmosphere on Earth, the scintillation conversion

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is done by nitrogen. In different parts of the universe, it's done by Argon,

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and heavier, because of the condition in the environment where they are.

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The closer you get to the center point,

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to what you call a black hole, or what we call Principle Matter,

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the stronger knife you need to cut. So,

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in your little tube in the back,

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you can produce as much energy as you like. You want to be warmer,

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you move closer to the Sun.

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You want to be cooler, you move to the Saturn.

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Do you understand? So, you have to find a position

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in respect to your center.

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With putting the ball in the middle, you dictate the center.

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You dictate the position of the center. When you have that core in the middle,

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and then you feed the vacuum outside it, you have already

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fixed the position of the center. Now move

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in your outer chamber where you want to be.

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Do you understand?

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Dr Keshe, can I put my nose in for a minute? Yes.

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If we, if we apply

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a magnetic field inside the tube,

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inside the plasma, would it affect it in a positive way, or ?

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Depends what you put in there, how you create it.

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Do you want to add to it, or do you want to withdraw from it?

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Do you understand? It depends what you want to do.

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You.. The way you have done your structure is fantastic. It's beautiful

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what you have done, the way you show it, with an outer chamber you built.

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With putting that plasma in the middle, you already have dictated

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the Sun. Right. You have the position of the Sun.

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Yes? Exactly. With your second chamber,

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you decide you want to be on the Earth position, or you want to be on Saturn.

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You want to be warmer, you come to the Earth. You want to take more energy out?

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You come to the Earth position.

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You want 100 kilowatts, you come to the Earth position, you go near your plasma.

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For ten watts, you go to Saturn position.

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You want a few microwatts, you go further out in the Pluto section.

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This is the easiest way to convert it. The closer you come

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to this point with putting that core

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in the middle, you have already fixed the position of the plasma.

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All the plasmas respond to that position.

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Unless one side is stronger, which then that plasma responds to them.

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You can make a stronger plasma outside,

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but you have to reposition it. This is what you call a

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360 rotational speed.

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In the Space industry, in the Space Ship program,

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as you recall, it's in my papers, it's on the net...

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you use 120 degree separation reactors. So, you want to increase

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the direction of motion, you don't have a jet propulsion to go in that direction,

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and that direction. In Space technology, when you want to move like the Iranian's

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Space Ship Program, you see them flying at high speed, they use

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a specific combination of reactors.

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You want to create energy from a certain point, you bring the magnetic field

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into that position. Do you understand?

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So, you do the same thing in your reactor. It's one constant, it's one principle.

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It's the application which changes it.

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Do you understand? Yes, thank-you, yes.

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Ok, so...Sorry about that...

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So, to me, you have a 30 kilowatt system.

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Maybe a 60 kilowatt system. Do you understand?

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Yes, that's what I'm shooting for, basically, yeah. So, it depends

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how close you want to be. When we get too close to the Sun, we burn. Why?

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Because there is a stronger magnetic-gravitational field. With our bodies,

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we just dissolve into it. Heh?

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When you go further out, it's cooler because the fields have already lost

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their strength to the other fields in the area. Yes? And then,

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you have to understand the position of the gravity you create in your central core.

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The gravitational-magnetic field in your center core

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decides where the matter happens.

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If the Sun had a stronger gravitational-magnetic field,

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the matter of Earth most probably would have been in the Jupiter level.

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Or Saturn, yeah? But because it has such a gravitational

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grid, the Earth-matter conversion is at the position where it is now.

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You have the same thing in there. That's why I say,

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a farmer, a man, in a village in Africa,

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should be able to produce food, energy, from a simple system.

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If he goes in a car graveyard, everything to produce

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energy is in a car graveyard. And the cars are everywhere. If you have a mobile

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phone, using components of a mobile phone, you can create

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as much energy as you like.

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Understand the structure, and then the application is the same.

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...We did have an idea to take a Plasma Ball and put a cell phone,

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a cell phone, tie it, tape it on to each side, and see what happens

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there, because you did mention something about cell phones, and...

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Yes, but as soon as you touch it, you create transfer of matter energy.

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You have to keep it away... We did a test...I had a knock on the door,

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they said, "Excuse me, do you mind shutting your system, the whole building has

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run out of, what do you call it, nobody can get through the communication lines."

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haha! ...Now, I'm talking a building

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five stories high, six stories high, all concrete,

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about 100 metres circumference

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easy, maybe more. With building a system

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of less than 10 centimetre, we could block the whole communication line.

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This is how...I wrote in there, that the people came

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and says, knock on the door, and says,"Can you close the thing down in your lab, because nobody

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can talk in the building any more." We realized the strength of it.

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You create the dynamic field which everything gets, stays, inside.

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The fields don't gravitate out, they can not move out, and whatever comes

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out from outside...This is how the satellite was captured, how the American

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plane was captured. You literally...

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the system is the size of a ...Smaller than

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a ping-pong ball, you can make it, Yeah? But it creates such a dynamicism

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that it...it doesn't block communication,

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it centralizes, like a centrifuge holds all

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the fields internally. So nothing can go, because it is stronger.

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You do the same thing with your system. It's not a jamming system, but

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you need this in deep space for specific

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uses. Where you want to absorb energy, when you run out of food,

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when you want to absorb energy, you can't wait until you

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are near a sun. You create in your reactor, conditions that all the

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smallest fields get absorbed and they get attracted, and you produce

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what you like from it. It's a process of understanding. In the

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system you have there, you can produce as much as energy for the rest of your

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life, if you know how to tap into it. You have, you have a

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power generator, right on the table! Right,

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well, that's our work, to unlock those secrets, and

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we appreciate your input on that. No secret. No, it's no secret.

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Look at the structure of the Universe. Yeah?

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We know it all...

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We denied the knowledge to ourselves. We have it all within us,

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it's just...That's why I say, peer reviewing. These people who peer review

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for their own pocket put that mindset on us.

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Yes, right. I know for me, it was a major revelation to

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to run into your writings and teachings, because it

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resonated so well to what I knew was true,

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and that I wasn't getting from the ordinary sources.

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You see, the

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understanding comes in stages.

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You can't understand everything altogether.

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DesirĂŠ was with me on Monday,

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in the office. We had a girl who flew in from

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Norway? Yeah.

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She has MS.

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Very young, only in early thirties, and we've been

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building MS systems for people to reverse, to try to find

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a solution for, MS. Six, seven years ago,

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I was very happy how I could get people with MS moving

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their legs or their feet, and whatever.

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Because I looked for physicality. And it's taken

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me ten years, more or less, in research in MS and that kind of thing,

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while I was putting the system on for her,

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I realized how far away from reality I have worked.

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Even within my research, because I ignored one of the most

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principle things which leads to production of MS.

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You understand, leads to causing MS.

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Now, I built a system for her which is totally different that before,

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but it's still a half-way house, because when I was putting,

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I learned more, exactly what to look for, and to move a step further.

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But I don't have that much knowledge to make the system.

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But now, I know what system I have to make,

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that in reality, it should be the size of a cup

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to sort the MS out. Not these shoes,

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and helmets and things which we reverse.

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Because I did what you did, I went for physicality.

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In learning, now I know where the gap in my knowledge has been,

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or I looked in the wrong direction, or I didn't have enough knowledge,

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to see the next step. But, is this step

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the final step? I don't think so. Because now, from what

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I understand, with the structure of the human body,

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exactly how you are learning from your tube, is,

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even you can give me MS without me knowing.

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I mean, I don't need my own body to create a disease.

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Other people can give you disease without them knowing.

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You understand? It's a condition of environment.

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You understand? So, you have

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the condition of the environment in that reactor. You have to be very careful.

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I work with these things...Don't ever stay near to them! Stay away always.

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Whenever you run your reactor, just because you don't see things, doesn't mean

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things don't happen. This is how I got the cancer of the pancreas and liver...

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I worked too close, so,

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just because you don't see anything, these things release different wavelengths.

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For you to see that light, which is in there, it means

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the light has to emit to get to you. So, it was in different levels

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of energy, yes?

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It's better to see further than closer. ...Right. Well, we do have a

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remote control for our magnetic drive motor here,

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and we are able to stand back for that kind of thing...

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You see, that pipe you have, from your reactor to your pump, is too short.

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It's too short...you are too close to it.

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on the table, and leave your reactor, on its own, on a separate

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table, so it forces you to keep a certain distance.

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