1 00:00:00,758 --> 00:00:04,049 We're going to begin in 1964. 2 00:00:04,049 --> 00:00:07,022 Bob Dylan is 23 years old, and his career 3 00:00:07,022 --> 00:00:09,183 is just reaching its pinnacle. 4 00:00:09,183 --> 00:00:11,624 He's been christened the voice of a generation, 5 00:00:11,624 --> 00:00:14,084 and he's churning out classic songs 6 00:00:14,084 --> 00:00:16,047 at a seemingly impossible rate, 7 00:00:16,047 --> 00:00:20,498 but there's a small minority of dissenters, and they claim 8 00:00:20,498 --> 00:00:24,237 that Bob Dylan is stealing other people's songs. 9 00:00:24,237 --> 00:00:28,377 2004. Brian Burton, aka Danger Mouse, 10 00:00:28,377 --> 00:00:30,290 takes the Beatles' "White Album," 11 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:32,067 combines it with Jay-Z's "The Black Album" 12 00:00:32,067 --> 00:00:33,891 to create "The Grey Album." 13 00:00:33,891 --> 00:00:35,810 "The Grey Album" becomes an immediate sensation online, 14 00:00:35,810 --> 00:00:38,570 and the Beatles' record company sends out countless 15 00:00:38,570 --> 00:00:41,810 cease-and-desist letters for "unfair competition 16 00:00:41,810 --> 00:00:45,691 and dilution of our valuable property." 17 00:00:45,691 --> 00:00:47,683 Now, "The Grey Album" is a remix. 18 00:00:47,683 --> 00:00:50,080 It is new media created from old media. 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,665 It was made using these three techniques: 20 00:00:52,665 --> 00:00:55,907 copy, transform and combine. 21 00:00:55,907 --> 00:00:57,829 It's how you remix. You take existing songs, 22 00:00:57,829 --> 00:00:59,549 you chop them up, you transform the pieces, 23 00:00:59,549 --> 00:01:01,389 you combine them back together again, 24 00:01:01,389 --> 00:01:03,366 and you've got a new song, but that new song 25 00:01:03,366 --> 00:01:06,100 is clearly comprised of old songs. 26 00:01:06,100 --> 00:01:09,413 But I think these aren't just the components of remixing. 27 00:01:09,413 --> 00:01:12,457 I think these are the basic elements of all creativity. 28 00:01:12,457 --> 00:01:14,268 I think everything is a remix, 29 00:01:14,268 --> 00:01:18,959 and I think this is a better way to conceive of creativity. 30 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,952 All right, let's head back to 1964, and let's hear 31 00:01:21,952 --> 00:01:24,973 where some of Dylan's early songs came from. 32 00:01:24,973 --> 00:01:26,850 We'll do some side-by-side comparisons here. 33 00:01:26,850 --> 00:01:28,056 All right, this first song you're going to hear 34 00:01:28,056 --> 00:01:30,470 is "Nottamun Town." It's a traditional folk tune. 35 00:01:30,470 --> 00:01:33,051 After that, you'll hear Dylan's "Masters of War." 36 00:01:33,058 --> 00:01:37,958 Jean Ritchie: ♫ In Nottamun Town, not a soul would look out, ♫ 37 00:01:37,958 --> 00:01:44,556 ♫ not a soul would look up, not a soul would look down. ♫ 38 00:01:44,556 --> 00:01:48,830 Bob Dylan: ♫ Come you masters of war, ♫ 39 00:01:48,830 --> 00:01:57,435 ♫ you that build the big guns, you that build the death planes, ♫ 40 00:01:57,435 --> 00:02:00,504 ♫ You that build all the bombs. ♫ 41 00:02:00,504 --> 00:02:02,426 Kirby Ferguson: Okay, so that's the same basic melody 42 00:02:02,426 --> 00:02:05,585 and overall structure. This next one is "The Patriot Game," 43 00:02:05,585 --> 00:02:07,577 by Dominic Behan. Alongside that, 44 00:02:07,577 --> 00:02:09,851 you're going to hear "With God on Our Side," by Dylan. 45 00:02:09,851 --> 00:02:15,109 Dominic Behan: ♫ Come all ye young rebels, ♫ 46 00:02:15,109 --> 00:02:19,639 ♫ and list while I sing, ♫ 47 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:27,851 ♫ for the love of one's land is a terrible thing. ♫ 48 00:02:27,851 --> 00:02:33,663 BD: ♫ Oh my name it is nothin', ♫ 49 00:02:33,663 --> 00:02:38,191 ♫ my age it means less, ♫ 50 00:02:38,191 --> 00:02:45,010 ♫ the country I come from is called the Midwest. ♫ 51 00:02:45,010 --> 00:02:46,636 KF: Okay, so in this case, Dylan admits 52 00:02:46,636 --> 00:02:49,076 he must have heard "The Patriot Game," he forgot about it, 53 00:02:49,076 --> 00:02:50,635 then when the song kind of bubbled back up 54 00:02:50,635 --> 00:02:52,946 in his brain, he just thought it was his song. 55 00:02:52,946 --> 00:02:54,178 Last one, this is "Who's Going To Buy You Ribbons," 56 00:02:54,178 --> 00:02:55,738 another traditional folk tune. 57 00:02:55,738 --> 00:02:58,035 Alongside that is "Don't Think Twice, It's All Right." 58 00:02:58,035 --> 00:02:59,860 This one's more about the lyric. 59 00:02:59,860 --> 00:03:06,751 Paul Clayton: ♫ It ain't no use to sit and sigh now, ♫ 60 00:03:06,751 --> 00:03:14,615 ♫ darlin', and it ain't no use to sit and cry now. ♫ 61 00:03:14,615 --> 00:03:20,560 BD: ♫ It ain’t no use to sit and wonder why, babe, ♫ 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,212 ♫ if you don't know by now, ♫ 63 00:03:24,212 --> 00:03:29,603 ♫ and it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, babe, ♫ 64 00:03:29,603 --> 00:03:32,490 ♫ it'll never do somehow. ♫ 65 00:03:32,490 --> 00:03:34,762 KF: Okay, now, there's a lot of these. 66 00:03:34,762 --> 00:03:36,776 It's been estimated that two thirds of the melodies 67 00:03:36,776 --> 00:03:39,319 Dylan used in his early songs were borrowed. 68 00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:41,175 This is pretty typical among folk singers. 69 00:03:41,175 --> 00:03:43,538 Here's the advice of Dylan's idol, Woody Guthrie. 70 00:03:43,538 --> 00:03:45,068 "The worlds are the important thing. 71 00:03:45,068 --> 00:03:46,900 Don't worry about tunes. Take a tune, 72 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:48,576 sing high when they sing low, 73 00:03:48,576 --> 00:03:51,784 sing fast when they sing slow, and you've got a new tune." 74 00:03:51,784 --> 00:03:55,781 (Laughter) (Applause) 75 00:03:55,781 --> 00:03:57,728 And that's, that's what Guthrie did right here, 76 00:03:57,728 --> 00:04:00,335 and I'm sure you all recognize the results. 77 00:04:00,335 --> 00:04:06,252 (Music) 78 00:04:06,252 --> 00:04:08,647 We know this tune, right? We know it? 79 00:04:08,647 --> 00:04:10,060 Actually you don't. 80 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:12,744 That is "When the World's on Fire," a very old melody, 81 00:04:12,744 --> 00:04:15,005 in this case performed by the Carter Family. 82 00:04:15,005 --> 00:04:17,683 Guthrie adapted it into "This Land Is Your Land." 83 00:04:17,683 --> 00:04:22,003 So, Bob Dylan, like all folk singers, he copied melodies, 84 00:04:22,003 --> 00:04:24,725 he transformed them, he combined them with new lyrics 85 00:04:24,725 --> 00:04:27,122 which were frequently their own concoction 86 00:04:27,122 --> 00:04:29,383 of previous stuff. 87 00:04:29,383 --> 00:04:33,046 Now, American copyright and patent laws run counter 88 00:04:33,046 --> 00:04:35,769 to this notion that we build on the work of others. 89 00:04:35,769 --> 00:04:38,436 Instead, these laws and laws around the world 90 00:04:38,436 --> 00:04:42,158 use the rather awkward analogy of property. 91 00:04:42,158 --> 00:04:44,601 Now, creative works may indeed be kind of like property, 92 00:04:44,601 --> 00:04:46,910 but it's property that we're all building on, 93 00:04:46,910 --> 00:04:49,399 and creations can only take root and grow 94 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:52,115 once that ground has been prepared. 95 00:04:52,115 --> 00:04:54,961 Henry Ford once said, "I invented nothing new. 96 00:04:54,961 --> 00:04:56,964 I simply assembled the discoveries of other men 97 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:59,551 behind whom were centuries of work. 98 00:04:59,551 --> 00:05:01,934 Progress happens when all the factors that make for it 99 00:05:01,934 --> 00:05:05,964 are ready and then it is inevitable." 100 00:05:05,964 --> 00:05:10,509 2007. The iPhone makes it debut. 101 00:05:10,509 --> 00:05:13,176 Apple undoubtedly brings this innovation to us early, 102 00:05:13,176 --> 00:05:15,673 but its time was approaching because its core technology 103 00:05:15,673 --> 00:05:17,719 had been evolving for decades. 104 00:05:17,719 --> 00:05:19,701 That's multi-touch, controlling a device 105 00:05:19,701 --> 00:05:21,478 by touching its display. 106 00:05:21,478 --> 00:05:23,897 Here is Steve Jobs introducing multi-touch 107 00:05:23,897 --> 00:05:26,137 and making a rather foreboding joke. 108 00:05:26,137 --> 00:05:28,940 Steve Jobs: And we have invented a new technology 109 00:05:28,940 --> 00:05:31,200 called multi-touch. 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,653 You can do multi-fingered gestures on it, 111 00:05:33,653 --> 00:05:37,264 and boy have we patented it. (Laughter) 112 00:05:37,264 --> 00:05:41,430 KF: Yes. And yet, here is multi-touch in action. 113 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:43,451 This is at TED, actually, about a year earlier. 114 00:05:43,451 --> 00:05:45,919 This is Jeff Han, and, I mean, that's multi-touch. 115 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:47,670 It's the same animal, at least. 116 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:49,437 Let's hear what Jeff Han has to say about this 117 00:05:49,437 --> 00:05:51,263 newfangled technology. 118 00:05:51,263 --> 00:05:53,431 Jeff Han: Multi-touch sensing isn't anything -- 119 00:05:53,431 --> 00:05:55,637 isn't completely new. I mean, people like Bill Buxton 120 00:05:55,637 --> 00:05:57,286 have been playing around with it in the '80s. 121 00:05:57,286 --> 00:06:00,485 The technology, you know, isn't the most exciting thing here 122 00:06:00,485 --> 00:06:03,547 right now other than probably its newfound accessibility. 123 00:06:03,547 --> 00:06:05,480 KF: So he's pretty frank about it not being new. 124 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,023 So it's not multi-touch as a whole that's patented. 125 00:06:08,023 --> 00:06:10,160 It's the small parts of it that are, 126 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,464 and it's in these small details where 127 00:06:11,464 --> 00:06:14,582 we can clearly see patent law contradicting its intent: 128 00:06:14,582 --> 00:06:17,743 to promote the progress of useful arts. 129 00:06:17,743 --> 00:06:20,927 Here is the first ever slide-to-unlock. 130 00:06:20,927 --> 00:06:23,796 That is all there is to it. Apple has patented this. 131 00:06:23,796 --> 00:06:26,608 It's a 28-page software patent, but I will summarize 132 00:06:26,608 --> 00:06:30,544 what it covers. Spoiler alert: Unlocking your phone 133 00:06:30,544 --> 00:06:33,481 by sliding an icon with your finger. (Laughter) 134 00:06:33,481 --> 00:06:36,498 I'm only exaggerating a little bit. It's a broad patent. 135 00:06:36,498 --> 00:06:39,347 Now, can someone own this idea? 136 00:06:39,347 --> 00:06:41,777 Now, back in the '80s, there were no software patents, 137 00:06:41,777 --> 00:06:44,938 and it was Xerox that pioneered the graphical user interface. 138 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:47,856 What if they had patented pop-up menus, 139 00:06:47,856 --> 00:06:52,280 scrollbars, the desktop with icons that look like folders 140 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:54,267 and sheets of paper? 141 00:06:54,267 --> 00:06:56,616 Would a young and inexperienced Apple 142 00:06:56,616 --> 00:06:59,485 have survived the legal assault from a much larger 143 00:06:59,485 --> 00:07:03,565 and more mature company like Xerox? 144 00:07:03,565 --> 00:07:06,012 Now, this idea that everything is a remix might sound 145 00:07:06,012 --> 00:07:10,139 like common sense until you're the one getting remixed. 146 00:07:10,139 --> 00:07:11,789 For example ... 147 00:07:11,789 --> 00:07:13,028 SJ: I mean, Picasso had a saying. 148 00:07:13,028 --> 00:07:16,585 He said, "Good artists copy. Great artists steal." 149 00:07:16,585 --> 00:07:18,907 And we have, you know, 150 00:07:18,907 --> 00:07:22,035 always been shameless about stealing great ideas. 151 00:07:22,035 --> 00:07:23,933 KF: Okay, so that's in '96. Here's in 2010. 152 00:07:23,933 --> 00:07:26,842 "I'm going to destroy Android because it's a stolen product." 153 00:07:26,842 --> 00:07:28,384 (Laughter) 154 00:07:28,384 --> 00:07:32,023 "I'm willing to go thermonuclear war on this." (Laughter) 155 00:07:32,023 --> 00:07:35,527 Okay, so in other words, great artists steal, but not from me. 156 00:07:35,527 --> 00:07:37,878 (Laughter) 157 00:07:37,878 --> 00:07:41,486 Now, behavioral economists might refer to this sort of thing as loss aversion 158 00:07:41,486 --> 00:07:43,705 We have a strong predisposition towards protecting 159 00:07:43,705 --> 00:07:45,634 what we feel is ours. 160 00:07:45,634 --> 00:07:47,552 We have no such aversion towards copying 161 00:07:47,552 --> 00:07:50,285 what other people have, because we do that nonstop. 162 00:07:50,285 --> 00:07:52,760 So here's the sort of equation we're looking at. 163 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,417 We've got laws that fundamentally treat creative works as property, 164 00:07:55,417 --> 00:07:58,202 plus massive rewards or settlements 165 00:07:58,202 --> 00:08:00,399 in infringement cases, plus huge legal fees 166 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:02,062 to protect yourself in court, 167 00:08:02,062 --> 00:08:05,566 plus cognitive biases against perceived loss. 168 00:08:05,566 --> 00:08:07,709 And the sum looks like this. 169 00:08:07,709 --> 00:08:10,532 That is the last four years of lawsuits 170 00:08:10,532 --> 00:08:13,098 in the realm of smartphones. 171 00:08:13,098 --> 00:08:18,869 Is this promoting the progress of useful arts? 172 00:08:18,869 --> 00:08:24,637 1983. Bob Dylan is 42 years old, and his time 173 00:08:24,637 --> 00:08:27,963 in the cultural spotlight is long since past. 174 00:08:27,963 --> 00:08:30,572 He records a song called "Blind Willie McTell," 175 00:08:30,572 --> 00:08:32,758 named after the blues singer, and the song 176 00:08:32,758 --> 00:08:36,428 is a voyage through the past, through a much darker time, 177 00:08:36,428 --> 00:08:39,578 but a simpler one, a time when musicians like Willie McTell 178 00:08:39,578 --> 00:08:42,098 had few illusions about what they did. 179 00:08:42,098 --> 00:08:44,348 "I jump 'em from other writers 180 00:08:44,348 --> 00:08:46,913 but I arrange 'em my own way." 181 00:08:46,913 --> 00:08:48,630 I think this is mostly what we do. 182 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:51,996 Our creativity comes from without, not from within. 183 00:08:51,996 --> 00:08:54,917 We are not self-made. We are dependent on one another, 184 00:08:54,917 --> 00:08:57,742 and admitting this to ourselves isn't an embrace 185 00:08:57,742 --> 00:09:00,576 of mediocrity and derivativeness. 186 00:09:00,576 --> 00:09:03,209 It's a liberation from our misconceptions, 187 00:09:03,209 --> 00:09:06,292 and it's an incentive to not expect so much from ourselves 188 00:09:06,292 --> 00:09:09,027 and to simply begin. 189 00:09:09,027 --> 00:09:11,977 Thank you so much. It was an honor to be here. 190 00:09:11,977 --> 00:09:14,754 Thank you. (Applause) 191 00:09:14,754 --> 00:09:18,138 Thank you. Thank you. (Applause) 192 00:09:18,138 --> 00:09:21,479 Thank you. (Applause)