1 00:00:01,769 --> 00:00:04,848 So, why does good sex so often fade, 2 00:00:04,872 --> 00:00:08,492 even for couples who continue to love each other as much as ever? 3 00:00:09,726 --> 00:00:12,506 And why does good intimacy not guarantee good sex, 4 00:00:12,530 --> 00:00:14,393 contrary to popular belief? 5 00:00:15,703 --> 00:00:17,331 Or, the next question would be, 6 00:00:17,355 --> 00:00:19,395 can we want what we already have? 7 00:00:19,928 --> 00:00:22,084 That's the million-dollar question, right? 8 00:00:22,641 --> 00:00:24,330 And why is the forbidden so erotic? 9 00:00:24,354 --> 00:00:28,070 What is it about transgression that makes desire so potent? 10 00:00:28,653 --> 00:00:30,078 And why does sex make babies, 11 00:00:30,102 --> 00:00:32,712 and babies spell erotic disaster in couples? 12 00:00:32,736 --> 00:00:34,343 (Laughter) 13 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:36,545 It's kind of the fatal erotic blow, isn't it? 14 00:00:37,014 --> 00:00:39,327 And when you love, how does it feel? 15 00:00:39,351 --> 00:00:41,831 And when you desire, how is it different? 16 00:00:42,625 --> 00:00:44,148 These are some of the questions 17 00:00:44,172 --> 00:00:49,638 that are at the center of my exploration on the nature of erotic desire 18 00:00:49,662 --> 00:00:53,086 and its concomitant dilemmas in modern love. 19 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:55,060 So I travel the globe, 20 00:00:55,084 --> 00:01:00,443 and what I'm noticing is that everywhere where romanticism has entered, 21 00:01:00,467 --> 00:01:02,892 there seems to be a crisis of desire. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,136 A crisis of desire, as in owning the wanting -- 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,146 desire as an expression of our individuality, 24 00:01:11,170 --> 00:01:15,135 of our free choice, of our preferences, of our identity -- 25 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:18,461 desire that has become a central concept 26 00:01:18,485 --> 00:01:21,685 as part of modern love and individualistic societies. 27 00:01:21,709 --> 00:01:24,926 You know, this is the first time in the history of humankind 28 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:31,356 where we are trying to experience sexuality in the long term 29 00:01:31,380 --> 00:01:34,742 not because we want 14 children, 30 00:01:34,766 --> 00:01:38,938 for which we need to have even more because many of them won't make it, 31 00:01:38,962 --> 00:01:43,107 and not because it is exclusively a woman's marital duty. 32 00:01:43,131 --> 00:01:47,906 This is the first time that we want sex over time 33 00:01:47,930 --> 00:01:51,476 about pleasure and connection that is rooted in desire. 34 00:01:52,430 --> 00:01:55,520 So what sustains desire, and why is it so difficult? 35 00:01:56,255 --> 00:02:01,063 And at the heart of sustaining desire in a committed relationship, 36 00:02:01,087 --> 00:02:06,670 I think, is the reconciliation of two fundamental human needs. 37 00:02:06,694 --> 00:02:11,832 On the one hand, our need for security, for predictability, 38 00:02:11,856 --> 00:02:15,751 for safety, for dependability, 39 00:02:15,775 --> 00:02:19,224 for reliability, for permanence. 40 00:02:19,248 --> 00:02:22,342 All these anchoring, grounding experiences of our lives 41 00:02:22,366 --> 00:02:23,518 that we call home. 42 00:02:24,336 --> 00:02:28,444 But we also have an equally strong need -- men and women -- 43 00:02:28,468 --> 00:02:30,893 for adventure, for novelty, 44 00:02:30,917 --> 00:02:34,028 for mystery, for risk, for danger, 45 00:02:34,052 --> 00:02:37,318 for the unknown, for the unexpected, surprise -- 46 00:02:37,342 --> 00:02:39,249 you get the gist. 47 00:02:39,273 --> 00:02:40,873 For journey, for travel. 48 00:02:41,248 --> 00:02:44,773 So reconciling our need for security and our need for adventure 49 00:02:44,797 --> 00:02:46,347 into one relationship, 50 00:02:46,371 --> 00:02:49,230 or what we today like to call a passionate marriage, 51 00:02:49,254 --> 00:02:51,512 used to be a contradiction in terms. 52 00:02:51,948 --> 00:02:55,226 Marriage was an economic institution 53 00:02:55,250 --> 00:02:58,288 in which you were given a partnership for life 54 00:02:58,312 --> 00:03:01,032 in terms of children and social status 55 00:03:01,056 --> 00:03:03,839 and succession and companionship. 56 00:03:03,863 --> 00:03:07,868 But now we want our partner to still give us all these things, 57 00:03:07,892 --> 00:03:10,320 but in addition I want you to be my best friend 58 00:03:10,344 --> 00:03:13,554 and my trusted confidant and my passionate lover to boot, 59 00:03:13,578 --> 00:03:14,958 and we live twice as long. 60 00:03:14,982 --> 00:03:17,878 (Laughter) 61 00:03:17,902 --> 00:03:21,882 So we come to one person, and we basically are asking them 62 00:03:21,906 --> 00:03:24,798 to give us what once an entire village used to provide. 63 00:03:25,529 --> 00:03:28,110 Give me belonging, give me identity, 64 00:03:28,134 --> 00:03:29,449 give me continuity, 65 00:03:29,473 --> 00:03:33,109 but give me transcendence and mystery and awe all in one. 66 00:03:33,530 --> 00:03:35,139 Give me comfort, give me edge. 67 00:03:35,163 --> 00:03:37,061 Give me novelty, give me familiarity. 68 00:03:37,085 --> 00:03:39,351 Give me predictability, give me surprise. 69 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:40,724 And we think it's a given, 70 00:03:40,748 --> 00:03:43,349 and toys and lingerie are going to save us with that. 71 00:03:43,373 --> 00:03:45,274 (Laughter) 72 00:03:45,298 --> 00:03:49,243 (Applause) 73 00:03:49,267 --> 00:03:52,728 So now we get to the existential reality of the story, right? 74 00:03:53,450 --> 00:03:57,158 Because I think, in some way -- 75 00:03:57,182 --> 00:03:58,839 and I'll come back to that -- 76 00:03:58,863 --> 00:04:02,290 but the crisis of desire is often a crisis of the imagination. 77 00:04:02,314 --> 00:04:05,913 So why does good sex so often fade? 78 00:04:05,937 --> 00:04:08,461 What is the relationship between love and desire? 79 00:04:08,485 --> 00:04:11,362 How do they relate, and how do they conflict? 80 00:04:11,766 --> 00:04:14,235 Because therein lies the mystery of eroticism. 81 00:04:14,822 --> 00:04:18,629 So if there is a verb, for me, that comes with love, it's "to have." 82 00:04:19,093 --> 00:04:22,339 And if there is a verb that comes with desire, it is "to want." 83 00:04:23,466 --> 00:04:27,243 In love, we want to have, we want to know the beloved. 84 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:29,549 We want to minimize the distance. 85 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:31,529 We want to contract that gap. 86 00:04:31,553 --> 00:04:33,825 We want to neutralize the tensions. 87 00:04:33,849 --> 00:04:35,299 We want closeness. 88 00:04:35,771 --> 00:04:37,167 But in desire, 89 00:04:37,191 --> 00:04:40,982 we tend to not really want to go back to the places we've already gone. 90 00:04:41,006 --> 00:04:44,327 Forgone conclusion does not keep our interest. 91 00:04:44,660 --> 00:04:46,865 In desire, we want an Other, 92 00:04:46,889 --> 00:04:49,914 somebody on the other side that we can go visit, 93 00:04:49,938 --> 00:04:52,096 that we can go spend some time with, 94 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,265 that we can go see what goes on in their red-light district. 95 00:04:55,875 --> 00:04:56,876 You know? 96 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:59,269 In desire, we want a bridge to cross. 97 00:04:59,293 --> 00:05:02,274 Or in other words, I sometimes say, fire needs air. 98 00:05:02,668 --> 00:05:04,512 Desire needs space. 99 00:05:04,989 --> 00:05:08,443 And when it's said like that, it's often quite abstract. 100 00:05:08,467 --> 00:05:10,134 But then I took a question with me. 101 00:05:10,158 --> 00:05:13,063 And I've gone to more than 20 countries in the last few years 102 00:05:13,087 --> 00:05:15,451 with "Mating in Captivity," and I asked people, 103 00:05:15,475 --> 00:05:18,607 when do you find yourself most drawn to your partner? 104 00:05:18,631 --> 00:05:21,498 Not attracted sexually, per Se, but most drawn. 105 00:05:22,093 --> 00:05:26,504 And across culture, across religion, and across gender -- except for one -- 106 00:05:26,528 --> 00:05:30,406 there are a few answers that just keep coming back. 107 00:05:30,843 --> 00:05:32,676 So the first group is: 108 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:37,891 I am most drawn to my partner when she is away, 109 00:05:37,915 --> 00:05:41,476 when we are apart, when we reunite. 110 00:05:42,057 --> 00:05:45,493 Basically, when I get back in touch 111 00:05:45,517 --> 00:05:49,204 with my ability to imagine myself with my partner, 112 00:05:49,228 --> 00:05:52,286 when my imagination comes back in the picture, 113 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:56,950 and when I can root it in absence and in longing, 114 00:05:56,974 --> 00:05:59,195 which is a major component of desire. 115 00:05:59,735 --> 00:06:02,898 But then the second group is even more interesting. 116 00:06:02,922 --> 00:06:04,583 I am most drawn to my partner 117 00:06:04,607 --> 00:06:07,129 when I see him in the studio, 118 00:06:07,153 --> 00:06:08,700 when she is onstage, 119 00:06:08,724 --> 00:06:10,400 when he is in his element, 120 00:06:10,424 --> 00:06:12,938 when she's doing something she's passionate about, 121 00:06:12,962 --> 00:06:16,343 when I see him at a party and other people are really drawn to him, 122 00:06:16,367 --> 00:06:18,288 when I see her hold court. 123 00:06:18,621 --> 00:06:22,995 Basically, when I look at my partner radiant and confident. 124 00:06:23,019 --> 00:06:25,903 Probably the biggest turn-on across the board. 125 00:06:26,292 --> 00:06:28,929 Radiant, as in self-sustaining. 126 00:06:28,953 --> 00:06:31,946 I look at this person -- by the way, in desire 127 00:06:31,970 --> 00:06:34,723 people rarely talk about it, when we are blended into one, 128 00:06:34,747 --> 00:06:36,367 five centimeters from each other. 129 00:06:36,391 --> 00:06:38,302 I don't know in inches how much that is. 130 00:06:38,326 --> 00:06:41,217 But it's also not when the other person is that far apart 131 00:06:41,241 --> 00:06:42,977 that you no longer see them. 132 00:06:43,001 --> 00:06:47,001 It's when I'm looking at my partner from a comfortable distance, 133 00:06:47,025 --> 00:06:51,350 where this person that is already so familiar, so known, 134 00:06:51,374 --> 00:06:55,814 is momentarily once again somewhat mysterious, somewhat elusive. 135 00:06:56,322 --> 00:07:01,044 And in this space between me and the other lies the erotic élan, 136 00:07:01,068 --> 00:07:03,204 lies that movement toward the other. 137 00:07:03,661 --> 00:07:05,800 Because sometimes, as Proust says, 138 00:07:05,824 --> 00:07:08,475 mystery is not about traveling to new places, 139 00:07:08,499 --> 00:07:10,654 but it's about looking with new eyes. 140 00:07:10,678 --> 00:07:14,507 And so, when I see my partner on his own or her own, 141 00:07:14,531 --> 00:07:17,340 doing something in which they are enveloped, 142 00:07:17,364 --> 00:07:21,755 I look at this person and I momentarily get a shift in perception, 143 00:07:21,779 --> 00:07:25,716 and I stay open to the mysteries that are living right next to me. 144 00:07:27,051 --> 00:07:31,771 And then, more importantly, in this description about the other 145 00:07:31,795 --> 00:07:33,621 or myself -- it's the same -- 146 00:07:33,645 --> 00:07:37,702 what is most interesting is that there is no neediness in desire. 147 00:07:37,726 --> 00:07:40,030 Nobody needs anybody. 148 00:07:40,054 --> 00:07:42,512 There is no caretaking in desire. 149 00:07:42,536 --> 00:07:44,680 Caretaking is mightily loving. 150 00:07:44,704 --> 00:07:46,408 It's a powerful anti-aphrodisiac. 151 00:07:46,432 --> 00:07:47,433 (Laughter) 152 00:07:47,457 --> 00:07:49,786 I have yet to see somebody who is so turned on 153 00:07:49,810 --> 00:07:51,488 by somebody who needs them. 154 00:07:51,512 --> 00:07:53,228 Wanting them is one thing. 155 00:07:53,252 --> 00:07:54,981 Needing them is a shot down 156 00:07:55,005 --> 00:07:56,882 and women have known that forever, 157 00:07:56,906 --> 00:07:59,489 because anything that will bring up parenthood 158 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:01,852 will usually decrease the erotic charge. 159 00:08:01,876 --> 00:08:03,089 (Laughter) 160 00:08:03,113 --> 00:08:04,829 For good reasons, right? 161 00:08:04,853 --> 00:08:08,082 And then the third group of answers usually would be: 162 00:08:08,106 --> 00:08:12,502 when I'm surprised, when we laugh together, 163 00:08:12,526 --> 00:08:14,787 as somebody said to me in the office today, 164 00:08:14,811 --> 00:08:16,811 when he's in his tux, so I said, you know, 165 00:08:16,835 --> 00:08:19,943 it's either the tux or the cowboy boots. 166 00:08:19,967 --> 00:08:23,349 But basically it's when there is novelty. 167 00:08:23,373 --> 00:08:26,185 But novelty isn't about new positions. 168 00:08:26,209 --> 00:08:28,140 It isn't a repertoire of techniques. 169 00:08:28,164 --> 00:08:31,385 Novelty is, what parts of you do you bring out? 170 00:08:31,409 --> 00:08:34,191 What parts of you are just being seen? 171 00:08:34,215 --> 00:08:38,133 Because in some way one could say sex isn't something you do, eh? 172 00:08:38,157 --> 00:08:39,498 Sex is a place you go. 173 00:08:39,882 --> 00:08:41,367 It's a space you enter 174 00:08:41,391 --> 00:08:44,913 inside yourself and with another, or others. 175 00:08:44,937 --> 00:08:46,802 So where do you go in sex? 176 00:08:47,135 --> 00:08:49,587 What parts of you do you connect to? 177 00:08:49,611 --> 00:08:51,786 What do you seek to express there? 178 00:08:51,810 --> 00:08:54,976 Is it a place for transcendence and spiritual union? 179 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,303 Is it a place for naughtiness and is it a place to be safely aggressive? 180 00:08:59,327 --> 00:09:01,647 Is it a place where you can finally surrender 181 00:09:01,671 --> 00:09:04,815 and not have to take responsibility for everything? 182 00:09:04,839 --> 00:09:07,791 Is it a place where you can express your infantile wishes? 183 00:09:07,815 --> 00:09:10,071 What comes out there? It's a language. 184 00:09:10,095 --> 00:09:12,213 It isn't just a behavior. 185 00:09:12,521 --> 00:09:15,383 And it's the poetic of that language that I'm interested in, 186 00:09:15,407 --> 00:09:18,971 which is why I began to explore this concept of erotic intelligence. 187 00:09:19,526 --> 00:09:21,161 You know, animals have sex. 188 00:09:21,566 --> 00:09:25,076 It's the pivot, it's biology, it's the natural instinct. 189 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:28,330 We are the only ones who have an erotic life, 190 00:09:28,354 --> 00:09:33,512 which means that it's sexuality transformed by the human imagination. 191 00:09:34,456 --> 00:09:37,742 We are the only ones who can make love for hours, 192 00:09:37,766 --> 00:09:40,614 have a blissful time, multiple orgasms, 193 00:09:40,638 --> 00:09:43,803 and touch nobody, just because we can imagine it. 194 00:09:44,573 --> 00:09:47,367 We can hint at it. We don't even have to do it. 195 00:09:47,391 --> 00:09:50,861 We can experience that powerful thing called anticipation, 196 00:09:50,885 --> 00:09:53,309 which is a mortar to desire. 197 00:09:53,333 --> 00:09:56,952 The ability to imagine it, as if it's happening, 198 00:09:56,976 --> 00:09:59,350 to experience it as if it's happening, 199 00:09:59,374 --> 00:10:00,860 while nothing is happening 200 00:10:00,884 --> 00:10:03,151 and everything is happening, at the same time. 201 00:10:03,569 --> 00:10:06,075 So when I began to think about eroticism, 202 00:10:06,099 --> 00:10:08,670 I began to think about the poetics of sex. 203 00:10:09,448 --> 00:10:11,756 And if I look at it as an intelligence, 204 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:13,953 then it's something that you cultivate. 205 00:10:13,977 --> 00:10:15,525 What are the ingredients? 206 00:10:15,549 --> 00:10:18,196 Imagination, playfulness, 207 00:10:18,220 --> 00:10:21,332 novelty, curiosity, mystery. 208 00:10:21,784 --> 00:10:26,543 But the central agent is really that piece called the imagination. 209 00:10:26,567 --> 00:10:29,702 But more importantly, for me to begin to understand 210 00:10:29,726 --> 00:10:32,298 who are the couples who have an erotic spark, 211 00:10:32,322 --> 00:10:34,124 what sustains desire, 212 00:10:34,148 --> 00:10:37,538 I had to go back to the original definition of eroticism, 213 00:10:37,562 --> 00:10:39,395 the mystical definition, 214 00:10:39,419 --> 00:10:41,506 and I went through it through a bifurcation 215 00:10:41,530 --> 00:10:43,628 by looking, actually, at trauma, 216 00:10:43,652 --> 00:10:45,419 which is the other side. 217 00:10:45,443 --> 00:10:46,644 And I looked at it, 218 00:10:46,668 --> 00:10:48,998 looking at the community that I had grown up in, 219 00:10:49,022 --> 00:10:52,836 which was a community in Belgium, all Holocaust survivors, 220 00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:55,466 and in my community, there were two groups: 221 00:10:55,490 --> 00:10:58,622 those who didn't die, and those who came back to life. 222 00:10:59,416 --> 00:11:02,677 And those who didn't die lived often very tethered to the ground, 223 00:11:02,701 --> 00:11:06,192 could not experience pleasure, could not trust, 224 00:11:06,216 --> 00:11:10,217 because when you're vigilant, worried, anxious, and insecure, 225 00:11:10,241 --> 00:11:13,780 you can't lift your head to go and take off in space 226 00:11:13,804 --> 00:11:16,492 and be playful and safe and imaginative. 227 00:11:17,238 --> 00:11:19,031 Those who came back to life 228 00:11:19,055 --> 00:11:22,341 were those who understood the erotic as an antidote to death. 229 00:11:22,365 --> 00:11:25,124 They knew how to keep themselves alive. 230 00:11:25,941 --> 00:11:27,491 And when I began to listen 231 00:11:27,515 --> 00:11:30,021 to the sexlessness of the couples that I work with, 232 00:11:30,045 --> 00:11:32,989 I sometimes would hear people say, "I want more sex," 233 00:11:33,013 --> 00:11:35,542 but generally, people want better sex, 234 00:11:35,566 --> 00:11:38,796 and better is to reconnect with that quality of aliveness, 235 00:11:38,820 --> 00:11:41,599 of vibrancy, of renewal, of vitality, 236 00:11:41,623 --> 00:11:43,224 of Eros, of energy 237 00:11:43,248 --> 00:11:44,919 that sex used to afford them, 238 00:11:44,943 --> 00:11:47,188 or that they've hoped it would afford them. 239 00:11:47,641 --> 00:11:50,157 And so I began to ask a different question. 240 00:11:50,911 --> 00:11:55,267 "I shut myself off when ..." began to be the question. 241 00:11:55,291 --> 00:11:57,281 "I turn off my desires when ..." 242 00:11:57,305 --> 00:11:58,974 Which is not the same question as, 243 00:11:58,998 --> 00:12:02,072 "What turns me off is ..." and "You turn me off when ..." 244 00:12:02,851 --> 00:12:06,008 And people began to say, "I turn myself off when 245 00:12:06,032 --> 00:12:08,913 I feel dead inside, when I don't like my body, 246 00:12:08,937 --> 00:12:10,182 when I feel old, 247 00:12:10,206 --> 00:12:11,929 when I haven't had time for myself, 248 00:12:11,953 --> 00:12:14,553 when I haven't had a chance to even check in with you, 249 00:12:14,577 --> 00:12:16,297 when I don't perform well at work, 250 00:12:16,321 --> 00:12:17,746 when I feel low self esteem, 251 00:12:17,770 --> 00:12:19,737 when I don't have a sense of self-worth, 252 00:12:19,761 --> 00:12:22,616 when I don't feel like I have a right to want, to take, 253 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,272 to receive pleasure." 254 00:12:25,164 --> 00:12:27,306 And then I began to ask the reverse question. 255 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:29,140 "I turn myself on when ..." 256 00:12:29,164 --> 00:12:31,965 Because most of the time, people like to ask the question, 257 00:12:31,989 --> 00:12:34,175 "You turn me on, what turns me on," 258 00:12:34,199 --> 00:12:36,448 and I'm out of the question, you know? 259 00:12:36,472 --> 00:12:38,079 Now, if you are dead inside, 260 00:12:38,103 --> 00:12:40,824 the other person can do a lot of things for Valentine's. 261 00:12:40,848 --> 00:12:43,753 It won't make a dent. There is nobody at the reception desk. 262 00:12:43,777 --> 00:12:45,051 (Laughter) 263 00:12:45,075 --> 00:12:47,453 So I turn myself on when, 264 00:12:47,477 --> 00:12:50,937 I turn on my desires, I wake up when ... 265 00:12:51,488 --> 00:12:56,082 Now, in this paradox between love and desire, 266 00:12:56,106 --> 00:12:58,208 what seems to be so puzzling 267 00:12:58,232 --> 00:13:02,101 is that the very ingredients that nurture love -- 268 00:13:02,125 --> 00:13:04,550 mutuality, reciprocity, 269 00:13:04,574 --> 00:13:08,311 protection, worry, responsibility for the other -- 270 00:13:08,335 --> 00:13:11,755 are sometimes the very ingredients that stifle desire. 271 00:13:12,430 --> 00:13:16,498 Because desire comes with a host of feelings 272 00:13:16,522 --> 00:13:20,376 that are not always such favorites of love: 273 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,169 jealousy, possessiveness, 274 00:13:22,193 --> 00:13:24,741 aggression, power, dominance, 275 00:13:24,765 --> 00:13:26,519 naughtiness, mischief. 276 00:13:26,543 --> 00:13:30,831 Basically most of us will get turned on at night by the very same things 277 00:13:30,855 --> 00:13:33,218 that we will demonstrate against during the day. 278 00:13:33,605 --> 00:13:36,880 You know, the erotic mind is not very politically correct. 279 00:13:36,904 --> 00:13:39,536 If everybody was fantasizing on a bed of roses, 280 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:42,184 we wouldn't be having such interesting talks about this. 281 00:13:42,208 --> 00:13:43,209 (Laughter) 282 00:13:43,233 --> 00:13:48,566 But no, in our mind up there are a host of things going on 283 00:13:48,590 --> 00:13:51,733 that we don't always know how to bring to the person that we love, 284 00:13:51,757 --> 00:13:54,688 because we think love comes with selflessness 285 00:13:54,712 --> 00:13:58,258 and in fact desire comes with a certain amount of selfishness 286 00:13:58,282 --> 00:14:00,235 in the best sense of the word: 287 00:14:00,259 --> 00:14:04,639 the ability to stay connected to one's self in the presence of another. 288 00:14:05,075 --> 00:14:07,613 So I want to draw that little image for you, 289 00:14:07,637 --> 00:14:11,322 because this need to reconcile these two sets of needs, 290 00:14:11,346 --> 00:14:12,866 we are born with that. 291 00:14:12,890 --> 00:14:15,762 Our need for connection, our need for separateness, 292 00:14:15,786 --> 00:14:17,971 or our need for security and adventure, 293 00:14:17,995 --> 00:14:20,825 or our need for togetherness and for autonomy, 294 00:14:20,849 --> 00:14:24,000 and if you think about the little kid who sits on your lap 295 00:14:24,024 --> 00:14:27,903 and who is cozily nested here and very secure and comfortable, 296 00:14:27,927 --> 00:14:32,169 and at some point all of us need to go out into the world 297 00:14:32,193 --> 00:14:34,312 to discover and to explore. 298 00:14:34,336 --> 00:14:36,170 That's the beginning of desire, 299 00:14:36,194 --> 00:14:40,010 that exploratory need, curiosity, discovery. 300 00:14:41,194 --> 00:14:44,916 And then at some point they turn around and they look at you. 301 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:46,689 And if you tell them, 302 00:14:46,713 --> 00:14:48,710 "Hey kiddo, the world's a great place. 303 00:14:48,734 --> 00:14:50,859 Go for it. There's so much fun out there," 304 00:14:50,883 --> 00:14:53,409 then they can turn away and they can experience 305 00:14:53,433 --> 00:14:55,614 connection and separateness at the same time. 306 00:14:55,638 --> 00:14:59,428 They can go off in their imagination, off in their body, 307 00:14:59,452 --> 00:15:01,080 off in their playfulness, 308 00:15:01,104 --> 00:15:04,238 all the while knowing that there's somebody when they come back. 309 00:15:04,619 --> 00:15:07,032 But if on this side there is somebody who says, 310 00:15:07,056 --> 00:15:10,612 "I'm worried. I'm anxious. I'm depressed. 311 00:15:10,636 --> 00:15:12,891 My partner hasn't taken care of me in so long. 312 00:15:12,915 --> 00:15:14,263 What's so good out there? 313 00:15:14,287 --> 00:15:17,409 Don't we have everything you need together, you and I?" 314 00:15:17,433 --> 00:15:19,522 then there are a few little reactions 315 00:15:19,546 --> 00:15:22,602 that all of us can pretty much recognize. 316 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:25,865 Some of us will come back, 317 00:15:25,889 --> 00:15:27,642 came back a long time ago, 318 00:15:27,666 --> 00:15:30,051 and that little child who comes back 319 00:15:30,075 --> 00:15:33,004 is the child who will forgo a part of himself 320 00:15:33,028 --> 00:15:34,742 in order not to lose the other. 321 00:15:35,171 --> 00:15:38,732 I will lose my freedom in order not to lose connection. 322 00:15:39,185 --> 00:15:42,066 And I will learn to love in a certain way 323 00:15:42,090 --> 00:15:45,906 that will become burdened with extra worry 324 00:15:45,930 --> 00:15:49,450 and extra responsibility and extra protection, 325 00:15:49,474 --> 00:15:51,914 and I won't know how to leave you 326 00:15:51,938 --> 00:15:55,458 in order to go play, in order to go experience pleasure, 327 00:15:55,482 --> 00:15:58,698 in order to discover, to enter inside myself. 328 00:15:58,722 --> 00:16:01,221 Translate this into adult language. 329 00:16:01,606 --> 00:16:03,095 It starts very young. 330 00:16:03,119 --> 00:16:06,398 It continues into our sex lives up to the end. 331 00:16:06,867 --> 00:16:09,237 Child number two comes back 332 00:16:09,261 --> 00:16:12,303 but looks like that over their shoulder all the time. 333 00:16:12,327 --> 00:16:14,082 "Are you going to be there? 334 00:16:14,106 --> 00:16:16,178 Are you going to curse me, scold me? 335 00:16:16,202 --> 00:16:17,959 Are you going to be angry with me?" 336 00:16:17,983 --> 00:16:21,578 And they may be gone, but they're never really away. 337 00:16:21,602 --> 00:16:23,983 And those are often the people that will tell you, 338 00:16:24,007 --> 00:16:26,109 "In the beginning, it was super hot." 339 00:16:26,133 --> 00:16:28,286 Because in the beginning, 340 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:31,638 the growing intimacy wasn't yet so strong 341 00:16:31,662 --> 00:16:34,531 that it actually led to the decrease of desire. 342 00:16:34,555 --> 00:16:38,559 The more connected I became, the more responsible I felt, 343 00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:41,682 the less I was able to let go in your presence. 344 00:16:41,706 --> 00:16:43,750 The third child doesn't really come back. 345 00:16:44,346 --> 00:16:47,754 So what happens, if you want to sustain desire, 346 00:16:47,778 --> 00:16:49,994 it's that real dialectic piece. 347 00:16:50,018 --> 00:16:53,675 On the one hand you want the security in order to be able to go. 348 00:16:53,699 --> 00:16:57,427 On the other hand if you can't go, you can't have pleasure, 349 00:16:57,451 --> 00:17:00,471 you can't culminate, you don't have an orgasm, 350 00:17:00,495 --> 00:17:02,890 you don't get excited because you spend your time 351 00:17:02,914 --> 00:17:05,749 in the body and the head of the other and not in your own. 352 00:17:06,352 --> 00:17:12,392 So in this dilemma about reconciling these two sets of fundamental needs, 353 00:17:12,416 --> 00:17:16,565 there are a few things that I've come to understand erotic couples do. 354 00:17:16,589 --> 00:17:19,542 One, they have a lot of sexual privacy. 355 00:17:19,566 --> 00:17:22,048 They understand that there is an erotic space 356 00:17:22,072 --> 00:17:23,672 that belongs to each of them. 357 00:17:24,123 --> 00:17:27,258 They also understand that foreplay is not something you do 358 00:17:27,282 --> 00:17:29,093 five minutes before the real thing. 359 00:17:29,490 --> 00:17:32,562 Foreplay pretty much starts at the end of the previous orgasm. 360 00:17:33,033 --> 00:17:36,565 They also understand that an erotic space isn't about, 361 00:17:36,589 --> 00:17:38,120 you begin to stroke the other. 362 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:41,526 It's about you create a space where you leave Management Inc., 363 00:17:41,550 --> 00:17:44,185 maybe where you leave the Agile program -- 364 00:17:44,209 --> 00:17:46,893 (Laughter) 365 00:17:46,917 --> 00:17:51,169 And you actually just enter that place where you stop being the good citizen 366 00:17:51,193 --> 00:17:53,833 who is taking care of things and being responsible. 367 00:17:53,857 --> 00:17:57,377 Responsibility and desire just butt heads. 368 00:17:57,401 --> 00:17:59,532 They don't really do well together. 369 00:18:00,230 --> 00:18:04,208 Erotic couples also understand that passion waxes and wanes. 370 00:18:04,232 --> 00:18:06,032 It's pretty much like the moon. 371 00:18:06,056 --> 00:18:07,777 It has intermittent eclipses. 372 00:18:07,801 --> 00:18:10,400 But what they know is they know how to resurrect it. 373 00:18:10,424 --> 00:18:12,092 They know how to bring it back. 374 00:18:12,116 --> 00:18:13,736 And they know how to bring it back 375 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,122 because they have demystified one big myth, 376 00:18:16,146 --> 00:18:18,495 which is the myth of spontaneity, 377 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:20,926 which is that it's just going to fall from heaven 378 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:23,908 while you're folding the laundry like a deus ex machina, 379 00:18:23,932 --> 00:18:25,877 and in fact they understood 380 00:18:25,901 --> 00:18:31,043 that whatever is going to just happen in a long-term relationship, already has. 381 00:18:31,067 --> 00:18:33,829 Committed sex is premeditated sex. 382 00:18:33,853 --> 00:18:36,145 It's willful. It's intentional. 383 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:39,217 It's focus and presence. 384 00:18:40,114 --> 00:18:41,234 Merry Valentine's. 385 00:18:41,258 --> 00:18:44,404 (Applause)