1 00:00:00,705 --> 00:00:02,930 In System D, this 2 00:00:02,930 --> 00:00:04,977 is a store, 3 00:00:04,977 --> 00:00:07,304 and what I mean by that is that this is a photograph 4 00:00:07,304 --> 00:00:12,619 I took in Makoko, shantytown in Lagos, Nigeria. 5 00:00:12,619 --> 00:00:15,002 It's built over the lagoon, and there are no streets 6 00:00:15,002 --> 00:00:16,818 where there can be stores to shop, 7 00:00:16,818 --> 00:00:18,708 and so the store comes to you. 8 00:00:18,708 --> 00:00:20,493 And in the same community, 9 00:00:20,493 --> 00:00:22,245 this is business synergy. 10 00:00:22,245 --> 00:00:26,351 This is the boat that that lady was paddling around in, 11 00:00:26,351 --> 00:00:29,091 and this artisan makes the boat and the paddles 12 00:00:29,091 --> 00:00:30,396 and sells directly 13 00:00:30,396 --> 00:00:32,560 to the people who need the boat and the paddles. 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,742 And this is a global business. 15 00:00:34,742 --> 00:00:38,868 Ogandiro smokes fish in Makoko in Lagos, 16 00:00:38,868 --> 00:00:41,829 and I asked her, "Where does the fish come from?" 17 00:00:41,829 --> 00:00:44,555 And I thought she'd say, "Oh, you know, 18 00:00:44,555 --> 00:00:47,456 up the lagoon somewhere, or maybe across Africa," 19 00:00:47,456 --> 00:00:48,887 but you'll be happy to know she said 20 00:00:48,887 --> 00:00:50,944 it came from here, it comes from the North Sea. 21 00:00:50,944 --> 00:00:53,270 It's caught here, frozen, shipped down to Lagos, 22 00:00:53,270 --> 00:00:56,357 smoked, and sold for a tiny increment of profit 23 00:00:56,357 --> 00:00:57,879 on the streets of Lagos. 24 00:00:57,879 --> 00:00:59,730 And this is a business incubator. 25 00:00:59,730 --> 00:01:03,432 This is Olusosun dump, the largest garbage dump in Lagos, 26 00:01:03,432 --> 00:01:06,503 and 2,000 people work here, and I found this out 27 00:01:06,503 --> 00:01:08,921 from this fellow, Andrew Saboru. 28 00:01:08,921 --> 00:01:13,081 Andrew spent 16 years scavenging materials on the dump, 29 00:01:13,081 --> 00:01:16,309 earned enough money to turn himself into a contract scaler, 30 00:01:16,309 --> 00:01:18,919 which meant he carried a scale and went around and 31 00:01:18,919 --> 00:01:21,143 weighed all the materials that people had scavenged 32 00:01:21,143 --> 00:01:24,166 from the dump. Now he's a scrap dealer. 33 00:01:24,166 --> 00:01:26,567 That's his little depot behind him, 34 00:01:26,567 --> 00:01:31,078 and he earns twice the Nigerian minimum wage. 35 00:01:31,078 --> 00:01:33,340 This is a shopping mall. 36 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:35,515 This is Oshodi Market in Lagos. 37 00:01:35,515 --> 00:01:37,861 Jorge Luis Borges had a story called "The Aleph," 38 00:01:37,861 --> 00:01:39,684 and the Aleph is a point in the world 39 00:01:39,684 --> 00:01:41,979 where absolutely everything exists, 40 00:01:41,979 --> 00:01:44,324 and for me, this image is a point in the world 41 00:01:44,324 --> 00:01:46,788 where absolutely everything exists. 42 00:01:46,788 --> 00:01:49,637 So, what am I talking about when I talk about System D? 43 00:01:49,637 --> 00:01:51,936 It's traditionally called the informal economy, 44 00:01:51,936 --> 00:01:55,564 the underground economy, the black market. 45 00:01:55,564 --> 00:01:57,857 I don't conceive of it that way. 46 00:01:57,857 --> 00:02:00,614 I think it's really important to understand that something like 47 00:02:00,614 --> 00:02:05,094 this is totally open. It's right there for you to find. 48 00:02:05,094 --> 00:02:07,821 All of this is happening openly, and aboveboard. 49 00:02:07,821 --> 00:02:10,343 There's nothing underground about it. 50 00:02:10,343 --> 00:02:13,725 It's our prejudgment that it's underground. 51 00:02:13,725 --> 00:02:18,230 I've pirated the term System D from the former French colonies. 52 00:02:18,230 --> 00:02:21,326 There's a word in French that is débrouillardise, 53 00:02:21,326 --> 00:02:23,446 that means to be self-reliant, 54 00:02:23,446 --> 00:02:26,809 and the former French colonies have turned that into 55 00:02:26,809 --> 00:02:29,366 System D for the economy of self-reliance, 56 00:02:29,366 --> 00:02:32,624 or the DIY economy. 57 00:02:32,624 --> 00:02:35,753 But governments hate the DIY economy, 58 00:02:35,753 --> 00:02:38,997 and that's why -- I took this picture in 2007, 59 00:02:38,997 --> 00:02:43,549 and this is the same market in 2009 -- 60 00:02:43,549 --> 00:02:45,855 and I think, when the organizers of this conference 61 00:02:45,855 --> 00:02:47,282 were talking about radical openness, 62 00:02:47,282 --> 00:02:49,838 they didn't mean that the streets should be open 63 00:02:49,838 --> 00:02:51,581 and the people should be gone. 64 00:02:51,581 --> 00:02:55,524 I think what we have is a pickle problem. 65 00:02:55,524 --> 00:02:58,464 I had a friend who worked at a pickle factory, 66 00:02:58,464 --> 00:03:00,365 and the cucumbers would come flying down 67 00:03:00,365 --> 00:03:04,368 this conveyer belt, and his job was to pick off the ones 68 00:03:04,368 --> 00:03:06,717 that didn't look so good and throw them in the bin 69 00:03:06,717 --> 00:03:08,623 labeled "relish" where they'd be crushed and mixed 70 00:03:08,623 --> 00:03:11,949 with vinegar and used for other kinds of profit. 71 00:03:11,949 --> 00:03:14,260 This is the pickle economy. 72 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:16,765 We're all focusing on — this is a statistic from 73 00:03:16,765 --> 00:03:19,344 earlier this month in the Financial Times — 74 00:03:19,344 --> 00:03:22,887 we're all focusing on the luxury economy. 75 00:03:22,887 --> 00:03:25,630 It's worth 1.5 trillion dollars every year, and that's 76 00:03:25,630 --> 00:03:27,374 a vast amount of money, right? 77 00:03:27,374 --> 00:03:30,622 That's three times the Gross Domestic Product of Switzerland. 78 00:03:30,622 --> 00:03:35,420 So it's vast. But it should come with an asterisk, 79 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:39,613 and the asterisk is that it excludes two thirds of the workers 80 00:03:39,613 --> 00:03:40,666 of the world. 81 00:03:40,666 --> 00:03:44,055 1.8 billion people around the world work 82 00:03:44,055 --> 00:03:49,591 in the economy that is unregulated and informal. 83 00:03:49,591 --> 00:03:52,871 That's a huge number, and what does that mean? 84 00:03:52,871 --> 00:03:57,624 Well, it means if it were united in a single political system, 85 00:03:57,624 --> 00:04:01,879 one country, call it 86 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:04,880 "The United Street Sellers Republic," the U.S.S.R., 87 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,713 or "Bazaaristan," 88 00:04:06,713 --> 00:04:10,989 it would be worth 10 trillion dollars every year, 89 00:04:10,989 --> 00:04:13,045 and that would make it the second largest economy 90 00:04:13,045 --> 00:04:15,526 in the world, after the United States. 91 00:04:15,526 --> 00:04:18,366 And given that projections are that the bulk 92 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:22,031 of economic growth over the next 15 years will come 93 00:04:22,031 --> 00:04:25,403 from emerging economies in the developing world, 94 00:04:25,403 --> 00:04:27,534 it could easily overtake the United States 95 00:04:27,534 --> 00:04:30,900 and become the largest economy in the world. 96 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:34,435 So the implications of that are vast, because it means 97 00:04:34,435 --> 00:04:37,958 that this is where employment is — 1.8 billion people — 98 00:04:37,958 --> 00:04:42,580 and this is where we can create a more egalitarian world, 99 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:46,551 because people are actually able to earn money and live 100 00:04:46,551 --> 00:04:49,546 and thrive, as Andrew Saboru did. 101 00:04:49,546 --> 00:04:51,707 Big businesses have recognized this, 102 00:04:51,707 --> 00:04:53,686 and what's fascinating about this slide, 103 00:04:53,686 --> 00:04:55,944 it's not that the guys can carry boxes on their heads 104 00:04:55,944 --> 00:04:58,459 and run around without dropping them off. 105 00:04:58,459 --> 00:05:01,554 it's that the Gala sausage roll is a product that's made 106 00:05:01,554 --> 00:05:04,264 by a global company called UAC foods 107 00:05:04,264 --> 00:05:06,831 that's active throughout Africa and the Middle East, 108 00:05:06,831 --> 00:05:10,520 but the Gala sausage roll is not sold in stores. 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,857 UAC foods has recognized that it won't sell if it's in stores. 110 00:05:13,857 --> 00:05:17,962 It's only sold by a phalanx of street hawkers 111 00:05:17,962 --> 00:05:20,775 who run around the streets of Lagos at bus stations 112 00:05:20,775 --> 00:05:25,248 and in traffic jams and sell it as a snack, 113 00:05:25,248 --> 00:05:28,270 and it's been sold that way for 40 years. 114 00:05:28,270 --> 00:05:30,440 It's a business plan for a corporation. 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,933 And it's not just in Africa. 116 00:05:32,933 --> 00:05:36,046 Here's Mr. Clean looking amorously at all the other 117 00:05:36,046 --> 00:05:37,966 Procter & Gamble products, 118 00:05:37,966 --> 00:05:40,414 and Procter & Gamble, you know, 119 00:05:40,414 --> 00:05:42,991 the statistic always cited is that Wal-Mart 120 00:05:42,991 --> 00:05:47,832 is their largest customer, and it's true, as one store, 121 00:05:47,847 --> 00:05:51,034 Wal-Mart buys 15 percent, thus 15 percent 122 00:05:51,034 --> 00:05:54,134 of Procter & Gamble's business is with Wal-Mart, 123 00:05:54,134 --> 00:05:57,695 but their largest market segment is something that they call 124 00:05:57,695 --> 00:06:00,615 "high frequency stores," which is all these tiny kiosks 125 00:06:00,615 --> 00:06:03,926 and the lady in the canoe and all these other businesses 126 00:06:03,926 --> 00:06:09,273 that exist in System D, the informal economy, 127 00:06:09,273 --> 00:06:12,671 and Procter & Gamble makes 20 percent of its money 128 00:06:12,671 --> 00:06:14,720 from that market segment, 129 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,156 and it's the only market segment that's growing. 130 00:06:18,156 --> 00:06:21,264 So Procter & Gamble says, "We don't care whether a store 131 00:06:21,264 --> 00:06:24,158 is incorporated or registered or anything like that. 132 00:06:24,158 --> 00:06:27,991 We want our products in that store." 133 00:06:27,991 --> 00:06:30,163 And then there's mobile phones. 134 00:06:30,163 --> 00:06:32,003 This is an ad for MTN, 135 00:06:32,003 --> 00:06:34,645 which is a South African multinational 136 00:06:34,645 --> 00:06:37,394 active in about 25 countries, 137 00:06:37,394 --> 00:06:38,955 and when they came into Nigeria — 138 00:06:38,955 --> 00:06:40,912 Nigeria is the big dog in Africa. 139 00:06:40,912 --> 00:06:43,236 One in seven Africans is a Nigerian, 140 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:45,938 and so everyone wants in to the mobile phone market 141 00:06:45,938 --> 00:06:47,972 in Nigeria. And when MTN came in, they wanted 142 00:06:47,972 --> 00:06:50,932 to sell the mobile service like I get in the United States 143 00:06:50,932 --> 00:06:54,706 or like people get here in the U.K. or in Europe -- 144 00:06:54,706 --> 00:06:58,595 expensive monthly plans, you get a phone, 145 00:06:58,595 --> 00:07:00,595 you pay overages, 146 00:07:00,595 --> 00:07:02,723 you're killed with fees -- 147 00:07:02,723 --> 00:07:04,527 and their plan crashed and burned. 148 00:07:04,527 --> 00:07:06,567 And they went back to the drawing board, and they retooled, 149 00:07:06,567 --> 00:07:08,071 and they came up with another plan: 150 00:07:08,071 --> 00:07:10,257 We don't sell you the phone, 151 00:07:10,257 --> 00:07:12,087 we don't sell you the monthly plan. 152 00:07:12,087 --> 00:07:15,223 We only sell you airtime. 153 00:07:15,223 --> 00:07:17,136 And where's the airtime sold? 154 00:07:17,136 --> 00:07:21,229 It's sold at umbrella stands all over the streets, 155 00:07:21,229 --> 00:07:24,953 where people are unregistered, unlicensed, 156 00:07:24,953 --> 00:07:27,658 but MTN makes most of its profits, 157 00:07:27,658 --> 00:07:30,345 perhaps 90 percent of its profits, 158 00:07:30,345 --> 00:07:35,007 from selling through System D, the informal economy. 159 00:07:35,007 --> 00:07:36,843 And where do the phones come from? 160 00:07:36,843 --> 00:07:39,717 Well, they come from here. This is in Guangzhou, China, 161 00:07:39,717 --> 00:07:43,153 and if you go upstairs in this rather sleepy looking 162 00:07:43,153 --> 00:07:47,779 electronics mall, you find the Guangzhou Dashatou 163 00:07:47,779 --> 00:07:50,652 second-hand trade center, 164 00:07:50,652 --> 00:07:53,836 and if you go in there, you follow the guys with the muscles 165 00:07:53,836 --> 00:07:56,498 who are carrying the boxes, and where are they going? 166 00:07:56,498 --> 00:07:59,315 They're going to Eddy in Lagos. 167 00:07:59,315 --> 00:08:02,019 Now, most of the phones there are not second-hand at all. 168 00:08:02,019 --> 00:08:03,326 The name is a misnomer. 169 00:08:03,326 --> 00:08:06,234 Most of them are pirated. They have the name brand 170 00:08:06,234 --> 00:08:09,315 on them, but they're not manufactured by the name brand. 171 00:08:09,315 --> 00:08:11,971 Now, are there downsides to that? 172 00:08:11,971 --> 00:08:15,219 Well, I guess. You know, China has no — 173 00:08:15,219 --> 00:08:18,511 (Laughter) — no intellectual property, right? 174 00:08:18,511 --> 00:08:20,412 Versace without the vowels. 175 00:08:20,412 --> 00:08:22,474 Zhuomani instead of Armani. 176 00:08:22,474 --> 00:08:27,481 S. Guuuci, and -- (Laughter) (Applause) 177 00:08:27,481 --> 00:08:30,610 All around the world this is how products 178 00:08:30,610 --> 00:08:33,130 are being distributed, so, for instance, 179 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:36,289 in one street market on Rua 25 de Março 180 00:08:36,289 --> 00:08:38,258 in São Paulo, Brazil, 181 00:08:38,258 --> 00:08:41,554 you can buy fake designer glasses. 182 00:08:41,554 --> 00:08:43,617 You can buy cloned cologne. 183 00:08:43,617 --> 00:08:46,392 You can buy pirated DVDs, of course. 184 00:08:46,392 --> 00:08:49,249 You can buy New York Yankees caps 185 00:08:49,249 --> 00:08:52,455 in all sorts of unauthorized patterns. 186 00:08:52,455 --> 00:08:55,544 You can buy cuecas baratas, designer underwear 187 00:08:55,544 --> 00:08:57,841 that isn't really manufactured by a designer, 188 00:08:57,841 --> 00:09:02,215 and even pirated evangelical mixtapes. (Laughter) 189 00:09:02,215 --> 00:09:04,969 Now, businesses tend to complain about this, 190 00:09:04,969 --> 00:09:08,508 and their, they, I don't want to take away from their 191 00:09:08,508 --> 00:09:10,546 entire validity of complaining about it, 192 00:09:10,546 --> 00:09:15,044 but I did ask a major sneaker manufacturer earlier this year 193 00:09:15,044 --> 00:09:17,941 what they thought about piracy, 194 00:09:17,941 --> 00:09:19,288 and they told me, "Well, you can't quote me on this, 195 00:09:19,288 --> 00:09:21,388 because if you quote me on this, I have to kill you," 196 00:09:21,388 --> 00:09:27,092 but they use piracy as market research. 197 00:09:27,092 --> 00:09:30,316 The sneaker manufacturer told me that if 198 00:09:30,316 --> 00:09:34,003 they find that Pumas are being pirated, or Adidas 199 00:09:34,003 --> 00:09:37,289 are being pirated and their sneakers aren't being pirated, 200 00:09:37,289 --> 00:09:40,174 they know they've done something wrong. (Laughter) 201 00:09:40,174 --> 00:09:43,251 So it's very important to them to track piracy 202 00:09:43,251 --> 00:09:45,615 exactly because of this, and the people who are buying, 203 00:09:45,615 --> 00:09:47,735 the pirates, are not their customers anyway, 204 00:09:47,735 --> 00:09:50,467 because their customers want the real deal. 205 00:09:50,467 --> 00:09:51,960 Now, there's another problem. 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,292 This is a real street sign in Lagos, Nigeria. 207 00:09:55,292 --> 00:09:58,356 All of System D really doesn't pay taxes, right? 208 00:09:58,356 --> 00:10:00,161 And when I think about that, first of all I think that 209 00:10:00,161 --> 00:10:03,875 government is a social contract between the people and 210 00:10:03,875 --> 00:10:06,391 the government, and if the government isn't transparent, 211 00:10:06,391 --> 00:10:08,612 then the people aren't going to be transparent either, 212 00:10:08,612 --> 00:10:11,660 but also that we're blaming the little guy 213 00:10:11,660 --> 00:10:13,597 who doesn't pay his taxes, and we're not recognizing 214 00:10:13,597 --> 00:10:16,370 that everyone's fudging things all over the world, 215 00:10:16,370 --> 00:10:20,403 including some extremely respected businesses, 216 00:10:20,403 --> 00:10:21,543 and I'll give you one example. 217 00:10:21,543 --> 00:10:25,694 There was one company that paid 4,000 bribes 218 00:10:25,694 --> 00:10:28,092 in the first decade of this millennium, and 219 00:10:28,092 --> 00:10:32,993 a million dollars in bribes every business day, right? 220 00:10:32,993 --> 00:10:35,288 All over the world. And that company 221 00:10:35,288 --> 00:10:38,194 was the big German electronics giant Siemens. 222 00:10:38,194 --> 00:10:42,072 So this goes on in the formal economy 223 00:10:42,072 --> 00:10:44,270 as well as the informal economy, 224 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:46,400 so it's wrong of us to blame — and I'm not singling out 225 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,119 Siemens, I'm saying everyone does it. Okay? 226 00:10:50,119 --> 00:10:53,568 I just want to end by saying that if Adam Smith 227 00:10:53,568 --> 00:10:56,408 had framed out a theory of the flea market 228 00:10:56,408 --> 00:10:59,719 instead of the free market, what would be some 229 00:10:59,719 --> 00:11:01,728 of the principles? 230 00:11:01,728 --> 00:11:05,488 First, it would be to understand that it could be 231 00:11:05,488 --> 00:11:07,679 considered a cooperative, and this is a thought 232 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,264 from the Brazilian legal scholar Roberto Mangabeira Unger. 233 00:11:12,264 --> 00:11:14,857 Cooperative development is a way forward. 234 00:11:14,857 --> 00:11:19,535 Secondly, from the [Austrian] anarchist philosopher Paul Feyerabend, 235 00:11:19,535 --> 00:11:23,823 facts are relative, and what is a massive right 236 00:11:23,823 --> 00:11:26,808 of self-reliance to a Nigerian businessperson 237 00:11:26,808 --> 00:11:30,819 is considered unauthorized and horrible to other people, 238 00:11:30,819 --> 00:11:32,836 and we have to recognize that there are differences 239 00:11:32,836 --> 00:11:34,893 in how people define things and what their facts are. 240 00:11:34,893 --> 00:11:37,993 And third is, and I'm taking this from 241 00:11:37,993 --> 00:11:41,273 the great American beat poet Allen Ginsberg, 242 00:11:41,273 --> 00:11:44,425 that alternate economies barter and 243 00:11:44,425 --> 00:11:47,176 different kinds of currency, alternate currencies 244 00:11:47,176 --> 00:11:50,018 are also very important, and he talked about 245 00:11:50,018 --> 00:11:53,009 buying what he needed just with his good looks. 246 00:11:53,009 --> 00:11:56,640 And so I just want to leave you there, and say that 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,856 this economy is a tremendous force for global development 248 00:12:00,856 --> 00:12:02,823 and we need to think about it that way. 249 00:12:02,823 --> 00:12:05,839 Thank you very much. (Applause) 250 00:12:05,839 --> 00:12:08,964 (Applause)