WEBVTT 00:00:00.705 --> 00:00:02.930 In System D, this 00:00:02.930 --> 00:00:04.977 is a store, 00:00:04.977 --> 00:00:07.304 and what I mean by that is that this is a photograph 00:00:07.304 --> 00:00:12.619 I took in Makoko, shantytown in Lagos, Nigeria. 00:00:12.619 --> 00:00:15.002 It's built over the lagoon, and there are no streets 00:00:15.002 --> 00:00:16.818 where there can be stores to shop, 00:00:16.818 --> 00:00:18.708 and so the store comes to you. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:18.708 --> 00:00:20.493 And in the same community, 00:00:20.493 --> 00:00:22.245 this is business synergy. 00:00:22.245 --> 00:00:26.351 This is the boat that that lady was paddling around in, 00:00:26.351 --> 00:00:29.091 and this artisan makes the boat and the paddles 00:00:29.091 --> 00:00:30.396 and sells directly 00:00:30.396 --> 00:00:32.560 to the people who need the boat and the paddles. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.742 And this is a global business. 00:00:34.742 --> 00:00:38.868 Ogandiro smokes fish in Makoko in Lagos, 00:00:38.868 --> 00:00:41.829 and I asked her, "Where does the fish come from?" 00:00:41.829 --> 00:00:44.555 And I thought she'd say, "Oh, you know, 00:00:44.555 --> 00:00:47.456 up the lagoon somewhere, or maybe across Africa," 00:00:47.456 --> 00:00:48.887 but you'll be happy to know she said 00:00:48.887 --> 00:00:50.944 it came from here, it comes from the North Sea. 00:00:50.944 --> 00:00:53.270 It's caught here, frozen, shipped down to Lagos, 00:00:53.270 --> 00:00:56.357 smoked, and sold for a tiny increment of profit 00:00:56.357 --> 00:00:57.879 on the streets of Lagos. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:57.879 --> 00:00:59.730 And this is a business incubator. 00:00:59.730 --> 00:01:03.432 This is Olusosun dump, the largest garbage dump in Lagos, 00:01:03.432 --> 00:01:06.503 and 2,000 people work here, and I found this out 00:01:06.503 --> 00:01:08.921 from this fellow, Andrew Saboru. 00:01:08.921 --> 00:01:13.081 Andrew spent 16 years scavenging materials on the dump, 00:01:13.081 --> 00:01:16.309 earned enough money to turn himself into a contract scaler, 00:01:16.309 --> 00:01:18.919 which meant he carried a scale and went around and 00:01:18.919 --> 00:01:21.143 weighed all the materials that people had scavenged 00:01:21.143 --> 00:01:24.166 from the dump. Now he's a scrap dealer. 00:01:24.166 --> 00:01:26.567 That's his little depot behind him, 00:01:26.567 --> 00:01:31.078 and he earns twice the Nigerian minimum wage. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:31.078 --> 00:01:33.340 This is a shopping mall. 00:01:33.340 --> 00:01:35.515 This is Oshodi Market in Lagos. 00:01:35.515 --> 00:01:37.861 Jorge Luis Borges had a story called "The Aleph," 00:01:37.861 --> 00:01:39.684 and the Aleph is a point in the world 00:01:39.684 --> 00:01:41.979 where absolutely everything exists, 00:01:41.979 --> 00:01:44.324 and for me, this image is a point in the world 00:01:44.324 --> 00:01:46.788 where absolutely everything exists. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:46.788 --> 00:01:49.637 So, what am I talking about when I talk about System D? 00:01:49.637 --> 00:01:51.936 It's traditionally called the informal economy, 00:01:51.936 --> 00:01:55.564 the underground economy, the black market. 00:01:55.564 --> 00:01:57.857 I don't conceive of it that way. 00:01:57.857 --> 00:02:00.614 I think it's really important to understand that something like 00:02:00.614 --> 00:02:05.094 this is totally open. It's right there for you to find. 00:02:05.094 --> 00:02:07.821 All of this is happening openly, and aboveboard. 00:02:07.821 --> 00:02:10.343 There's nothing underground about it. 00:02:10.343 --> 00:02:13.725 It's our prejudgment that it's underground. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:13.725 --> 00:02:18.230 I've pirated the term System D from the former French colonies. 00:02:18.230 --> 00:02:21.326 There's a word in French that is débrouillardise, 00:02:21.326 --> 00:02:23.446 that means to be self-reliant, 00:02:23.446 --> 00:02:26.809 and the former French colonies have turned that into 00:02:26.809 --> 00:02:29.366 System D for the economy of self-reliance, 00:02:29.366 --> 00:02:32.624 or the DIY economy. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:32.624 --> 00:02:35.753 But governments hate the DIY economy, 00:02:35.753 --> 00:02:38.997 and that's why -- I took this picture in 2007, 00:02:38.997 --> 00:02:43.549 and this is the same market in 2009 -- 00:02:43.549 --> 00:02:45.855 and I think, when the organizers of this conference 00:02:45.855 --> 00:02:47.282 were talking about radical openness, 00:02:47.282 --> 00:02:49.838 they didn't mean that the streets should be open 00:02:49.838 --> 00:02:51.581 and the people should be gone. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:51.581 --> 00:02:55.524 I think what we have is a pickle problem. 00:02:55.524 --> 00:02:58.464 I had a friend who worked at a pickle factory, 00:02:58.464 --> 00:03:00.365 and the cucumbers would come flying down 00:03:00.365 --> 00:03:04.368 this conveyer belt, and his job was to pick off the ones 00:03:04.368 --> 00:03:06.717 that didn't look so good and throw them in the bin 00:03:06.717 --> 00:03:08.623 labeled "relish" where they'd be crushed and mixed 00:03:08.623 --> 00:03:11.949 with vinegar and used for other kinds of profit. 00:03:11.949 --> 00:03:14.260 This is the pickle economy. 00:03:14.260 --> 00:03:16.765 We're all focusing on — this is a statistic from 00:03:16.765 --> 00:03:19.344 earlier this month in the Financial Times — 00:03:19.344 --> 00:03:22.887 we're all focusing on the luxury economy. 00:03:22.887 --> 00:03:25.630 It's worth 1.5 trillion dollars every year, and that's 00:03:25.630 --> 00:03:27.374 a vast amount of money, right? 00:03:27.374 --> 00:03:30.622 That's three times the Gross Domestic Product of Switzerland. 00:03:30.622 --> 00:03:35.420 So it's vast. But it should come with an asterisk, 00:03:35.420 --> 00:03:39.613 and the asterisk is that it excludes two thirds of the workers 00:03:39.613 --> 00:03:40.666 of the world. 00:03:40.666 --> 00:03:44.055 1.8 billion people around the world work 00:03:44.055 --> 00:03:49.591 in the economy that is unregulated and informal. 00:03:49.591 --> 00:03:52.871 That's a huge number, and what does that mean? 00:03:52.871 --> 00:03:57.624 Well, it means if it were united in a single political system, 00:03:57.624 --> 00:04:01.879 one country, call it 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.880 "The United Street Sellers Republic," the U.S.S.R., 00:04:04.880 --> 00:04:06.713 or "Bazaaristan," 00:04:06.713 --> 00:04:10.989 it would be worth 10 trillion dollars every year, 00:04:10.989 --> 00:04:13.045 and that would make it the second largest economy 00:04:13.045 --> 00:04:15.526 in the world, after the United States. 00:04:15.526 --> 00:04:18.366 And given that projections are that the bulk 00:04:18.366 --> 00:04:22.031 of economic growth over the next 15 years will come 00:04:22.031 --> 00:04:25.403 from emerging economies in the developing world, 00:04:25.403 --> 00:04:27.534 it could easily overtake the United States 00:04:27.534 --> 00:04:30.900 and become the largest economy in the world. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:30.900 --> 00:04:34.435 So the implications of that are vast, because it means 00:04:34.435 --> 00:04:37.958 that this is where employment is — 1.8 billion people — 00:04:37.958 --> 00:04:42.580 and this is where we can create a more egalitarian world, 00:04:42.580 --> 00:04:46.551 because people are actually able to earn money and live 00:04:46.551 --> 00:04:49.546 and thrive, as Andrew Saboru did. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:49.546 --> 00:04:51.707 Big businesses have recognized this, 00:04:51.707 --> 00:04:53.686 and what's fascinating about this slide, 00:04:53.686 --> 00:04:55.944 it's not that the guys can carry boxes on their heads 00:04:55.944 --> 00:04:58.459 and run around without dropping them off. 00:04:58.459 --> 00:05:01.554 it's that the Gala sausage roll is a product that's made 00:05:01.554 --> 00:05:04.264 by a global company called UAC foods 00:05:04.264 --> 00:05:06.831 that's active throughout Africa and the Middle East, 00:05:06.831 --> 00:05:10.520 but the Gala sausage roll is not sold in stores. 00:05:10.520 --> 00:05:13.857 UAC foods has recognized that it won't sell if it's in stores. 00:05:13.857 --> 00:05:17.962 It's only sold by a phalanx of street hawkers 00:05:17.962 --> 00:05:20.775 who run around the streets of Lagos at bus stations 00:05:20.775 --> 00:05:25.248 and in traffic jams and sell it as a snack, 00:05:25.248 --> 00:05:28.270 and it's been sold that way for 40 years. 00:05:28.270 --> 00:05:30.440 It's a business plan for a corporation. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:30.440 --> 00:05:32.933 And it's not just in Africa. 00:05:32.933 --> 00:05:36.046 Here's Mr. Clean looking amorously at all the other 00:05:36.046 --> 00:05:37.966 Procter & Gamble products, 00:05:37.966 --> 00:05:40.414 and Procter & Gamble, you know, 00:05:40.414 --> 00:05:42.991 the statistic always cited is that Wal-Mart 00:05:42.991 --> 00:05:47.832 is their largest customer, and it's true, as one store, 00:05:47.847 --> 00:05:51.034 Wal-Mart buys 15 percent, thus 15 percent 00:05:51.034 --> 00:05:54.134 of Procter & Gamble's business is with Wal-Mart, 00:05:54.134 --> 00:05:57.695 but their largest market segment is something that they call 00:05:57.695 --> 00:06:00.615 "high frequency stores," which is all these tiny kiosks 00:06:00.615 --> 00:06:03.926 and the lady in the canoe and all these other businesses 00:06:03.926 --> 00:06:09.273 that exist in System D, the informal economy, 00:06:09.273 --> 00:06:12.671 and Procter & Gamble makes 20 percent of its money 00:06:12.671 --> 00:06:14.720 from that market segment, 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:18.156 and it's the only market segment that's growing. 00:06:18.156 --> 00:06:21.264 So Procter & Gamble says, "We don't care whether a store 00:06:21.264 --> 00:06:24.158 is incorporated or registered or anything like that. 00:06:24.158 --> 00:06:27.991 We want our products in that store." NOTE Paragraph 00:06:27.991 --> 00:06:30.163 And then there's mobile phones. 00:06:30.163 --> 00:06:32.003 This is an ad for MTN, 00:06:32.003 --> 00:06:34.645 which is a South African multinational 00:06:34.645 --> 00:06:37.394 active in about 25 countries, 00:06:37.394 --> 00:06:38.955 and when they came into Nigeria — 00:06:38.955 --> 00:06:40.912 Nigeria is the big dog in Africa. 00:06:40.912 --> 00:06:43.236 One in seven Africans is a Nigerian, 00:06:43.236 --> 00:06:45.938 and so everyone wants in to the mobile phone market 00:06:45.938 --> 00:06:47.972 in Nigeria. And when MTN came in, they wanted 00:06:47.972 --> 00:06:50.932 to sell the mobile service like I get in the United States 00:06:50.932 --> 00:06:54.706 or like people get here in the U.K. or in Europe -- 00:06:54.706 --> 00:06:58.595 expensive monthly plans, you get a phone, 00:06:58.595 --> 00:07:00.595 you pay overages, 00:07:00.595 --> 00:07:02.723 you're killed with fees -- 00:07:02.723 --> 00:07:04.527 and their plan crashed and burned. 00:07:04.527 --> 00:07:06.567 And they went back to the drawing board, and they retooled, 00:07:06.567 --> 00:07:08.071 and they came up with another plan: 00:07:08.071 --> 00:07:10.257 We don't sell you the phone, 00:07:10.257 --> 00:07:12.087 we don't sell you the monthly plan. 00:07:12.087 --> 00:07:15.223 We only sell you airtime. 00:07:15.223 --> 00:07:17.136 And where's the airtime sold? 00:07:17.136 --> 00:07:21.229 It's sold at umbrella stands all over the streets, 00:07:21.229 --> 00:07:24.953 where people are unregistered, unlicensed, 00:07:24.953 --> 00:07:27.658 but MTN makes most of its profits, 00:07:27.658 --> 00:07:30.345 perhaps 90 percent of its profits, 00:07:30.345 --> 00:07:35.007 from selling through System D, the informal economy. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:35.007 --> 00:07:36.843 And where do the phones come from? 00:07:36.843 --> 00:07:39.717 Well, they come from here. This is in Guangzhou, China, 00:07:39.717 --> 00:07:43.153 and if you go upstairs in this rather sleepy looking 00:07:43.153 --> 00:07:47.779 electronics mall, you find the Guangzhou Dashatou 00:07:47.779 --> 00:07:50.652 second-hand trade center, 00:07:50.652 --> 00:07:53.836 and if you go in there, you follow the guys with the muscles 00:07:53.836 --> 00:07:56.498 who are carrying the boxes, and where are they going? 00:07:56.498 --> 00:07:59.315 They're going to Eddy in Lagos. 00:07:59.315 --> 00:08:02.019 Now, most of the phones there are not second-hand at all. 00:08:02.019 --> 00:08:03.326 The name is a misnomer. 00:08:03.326 --> 00:08:06.234 Most of them are pirated. They have the name brand 00:08:06.234 --> 00:08:09.315 on them, but they're not manufactured by the name brand. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:09.315 --> 00:08:11.971 Now, are there downsides to that? 00:08:11.971 --> 00:08:15.219 Well, I guess. You know, China has no — 00:08:15.219 --> 00:08:18.511 (Laughter) — no intellectual property, right? 00:08:18.511 --> 00:08:20.412 Versace without the vowels. 00:08:20.412 --> 00:08:22.474 Zhuomani instead of Armani. 00:08:22.474 --> 00:08:27.481 S. Guuuci, and -- (Laughter) (Applause) 00:08:27.481 --> 00:08:30.610 All around the world this is how products 00:08:30.610 --> 00:08:33.130 are being distributed, so, for instance, 00:08:33.130 --> 00:08:36.289 in one street market on Rua 25 de Março 00:08:36.289 --> 00:08:38.258 in São Paulo, Brazil, 00:08:38.258 --> 00:08:41.554 you can buy fake designer glasses. 00:08:41.554 --> 00:08:43.617 You can buy cloned cologne. 00:08:43.617 --> 00:08:46.392 You can buy pirated DVDs, of course. 00:08:46.392 --> 00:08:49.249 You can buy New York Yankees caps 00:08:49.249 --> 00:08:52.455 in all sorts of unauthorized patterns. 00:08:52.455 --> 00:08:55.544 You can buy cuecas baratas, designer underwear 00:08:55.544 --> 00:08:57.841 that isn't really manufactured by a designer, 00:08:57.841 --> 00:09:02.215 and even pirated evangelical mixtapes. (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:09:02.215 --> 00:09:04.969 Now, businesses tend to complain about this, 00:09:04.969 --> 00:09:08.508 and their, they, I don't want to take away from their 00:09:08.508 --> 00:09:10.546 entire validity of complaining about it, 00:09:10.546 --> 00:09:15.044 but I did ask a major sneaker manufacturer earlier this year 00:09:15.044 --> 00:09:17.941 what they thought about piracy, 00:09:17.941 --> 00:09:19.288 and they told me, "Well, you can't quote me on this, 00:09:19.288 --> 00:09:21.388 because if you quote me on this, I have to kill you," 00:09:21.388 --> 00:09:27.092 but they use piracy as market research. 00:09:27.092 --> 00:09:30.316 The sneaker manufacturer told me that if 00:09:30.316 --> 00:09:34.003 they find that Pumas are being pirated, or Adidas 00:09:34.003 --> 00:09:37.289 are being pirated and their sneakers aren't being pirated, 00:09:37.289 --> 00:09:40.174 they know they've done something wrong. (Laughter) 00:09:40.174 --> 00:09:43.251 So it's very important to them to track piracy 00:09:43.251 --> 00:09:45.615 exactly because of this, and the people who are buying, 00:09:45.615 --> 00:09:47.735 the pirates, are not their customers anyway, 00:09:47.735 --> 00:09:50.467 because their customers want the real deal. NOTE Paragraph 00:09:50.467 --> 00:09:51.960 Now, there's another problem. 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.292 This is a real street sign in Lagos, Nigeria. 00:09:55.292 --> 00:09:58.356 All of System D really doesn't pay taxes, right? 00:09:58.356 --> 00:10:00.161 And when I think about that, first of all I think that 00:10:00.161 --> 00:10:03.875 government is a social contract between the people and 00:10:03.875 --> 00:10:06.391 the government, and if the government isn't transparent, 00:10:06.391 --> 00:10:08.612 then the people aren't going to be transparent either, 00:10:08.612 --> 00:10:11.660 but also that we're blaming the little guy 00:10:11.660 --> 00:10:13.597 who doesn't pay his taxes, and we're not recognizing 00:10:13.597 --> 00:10:16.370 that everyone's fudging things all over the world, 00:10:16.370 --> 00:10:20.403 including some extremely respected businesses, 00:10:20.403 --> 00:10:21.543 and I'll give you one example. 00:10:21.543 --> 00:10:25.694 There was one company that paid 4,000 bribes 00:10:25.694 --> 00:10:28.092 in the first decade of this millennium, and 00:10:28.092 --> 00:10:32.993 a million dollars in bribes every business day, right? 00:10:32.993 --> 00:10:35.288 All over the world. And that company 00:10:35.288 --> 00:10:38.194 was the big German electronics giant Siemens. 00:10:38.194 --> 00:10:42.072 So this goes on in the formal economy 00:10:42.072 --> 00:10:44.270 as well as the informal economy, 00:10:44.270 --> 00:10:46.400 so it's wrong of us to blame — and I'm not singling out 00:10:46.400 --> 00:10:50.119 Siemens, I'm saying everyone does it. Okay? NOTE Paragraph 00:10:50.119 --> 00:10:53.568 I just want to end by saying that if Adam Smith 00:10:53.568 --> 00:10:56.408 had framed out a theory of the flea market 00:10:56.408 --> 00:10:59.719 instead of the free market, what would be some 00:10:59.719 --> 00:11:01.728 of the principles? NOTE Paragraph 00:11:01.728 --> 00:11:05.488 First, it would be to understand that it could be 00:11:05.488 --> 00:11:07.679 considered a cooperative, and this is a thought 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:12.264 from the Brazilian legal scholar Roberto Mangabeira Unger. 00:11:12.264 --> 00:11:14.857 Cooperative development is a way forward. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:14.857 --> 00:11:19.535 Secondly, from the [Austrian] anarchist philosopher Paul Feyerabend, 00:11:19.535 --> 00:11:23.823 facts are relative, and what is a massive right 00:11:23.823 --> 00:11:26.808 of self-reliance to a Nigerian businessperson 00:11:26.808 --> 00:11:30.819 is considered unauthorized and horrible to other people, 00:11:30.819 --> 00:11:32.836 and we have to recognize that there are differences 00:11:32.836 --> 00:11:34.893 in how people define things and what their facts are. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:34.893 --> 00:11:37.993 And third is, and I'm taking this from 00:11:37.993 --> 00:11:41.273 the great American beat poet Allen Ginsberg, 00:11:41.273 --> 00:11:44.425 that alternate economies barter and 00:11:44.425 --> 00:11:47.176 different kinds of currency, alternate currencies 00:11:47.176 --> 00:11:50.018 are also very important, and he talked about 00:11:50.018 --> 00:11:53.009 buying what he needed just with his good looks. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:53.009 --> 00:11:56.640 And so I just want to leave you there, and say that 00:11:56.640 --> 00:12:00.856 this economy is a tremendous force for global development 00:12:00.856 --> 00:12:02.823 and we need to think about it that way. 00:12:02.823 --> 00:12:05.839 Thank you very much. (Applause) 00:12:05.839 --> 00:12:08.964 (Applause)