[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.45,0:00:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Yan, I use the nick name Rabbane in the virtual world Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.21,0:00:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a silly thing, but...well Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.75,0:00:19.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am in "the movement" I think since November or December 2009 Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.69,0:00:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say just after Zeitgeist Addendum came out Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.34,0:00:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the beginning I was watching everything and trying to see what was all that about Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.33,0:00:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because to be honest I thought it was an idea so magnificent that it made me doubt Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.63,0:00:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I looked for the error in it, and then I understood that really Dialogue: 0,0:00:47.02,0:00:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was something we were all trying to do together and searching for the best posible solution Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.18,0:00:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for our planet earth. Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.89,0:00:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ok Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.42,0:01:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did you join the movement? set it up? And then why do you support the resources based economy? Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.93,0:01:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And also, rephrase the question. Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.62,0:01:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can you repeat please? the questions? Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.60,0:01:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, let me see. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.18,0:01:29.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started collaborating with the movement here in Spain to.... Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.92,0:01:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An the beginning...I was atempting to give...sorry, I am talking about another thing, I realise now Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.96,0:01:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was talking about the next question I think Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.02,0:01:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, I will restart. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.53,0:01:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm in the movement because I belive that it is the most accurated aproach for the human kind Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.28,0:01:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for everything in the planet earth. Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.45,0:02:05.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I belive the future of our planet doesn't just depend on ourselves Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.87,0:02:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it depends on us what we will do with our specie, the humans, Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.52,0:02:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in that sense we have little options at the point we are now. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.58,0:02:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is to keep going as we are and for sure we will screw it up Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.93,0:02:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the other is starting to be more self-critical, trying to find the way we can work better, Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.26,0:02:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in this sense, The Zeitgeist Movement proposes the use of the scientific method Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.70,0:02:53.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to solve the social issues and I belive that it is the best way, because traditionally Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.03,0:02:58.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the philosophy have been looking for the more adequate way of living for the human beings Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.66,0:03:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the best way to be happy Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.20,0:03:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but really since the scientific method started to be used Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.37,0:03:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing have been so productive and constructive than the contribution that the science and the tecnology made Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.06,0:03:18.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the welfare of everyone, and what it might give us in the future in terms of sustainability Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.65,0:03:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when it comes to evolve as an species to a new level Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.19,0:03:35.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a more civilized culture, or maybe in wich WE start to be civilized. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.77,0:03:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I forgot, I think I didnt talk about the resources based economic... Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.28,0:03:48.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you said is ok. Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.39,0:03:56.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next, history of the movement. Present, future. Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.33,0:03:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Spain... Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.50,0:04:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give me, half minute to think about it... Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.96,0:04:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ok Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.31,0:04:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Movement here in Spain started just after the first Z Day Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.01,0:04:28.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was in March 2009 I think Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.12,0:04:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...yes, 2009 Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.69,0:04:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people started to come together in different cities, mainly here in Valencia Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.51,0:04:50.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a funny anecdot of that day, that March the 15th 2009, because in the university I was working at Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.47,0:04:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tryed to make a screening of Zeitgeist Addendum Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.01,0:05:04.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sadly no one came, maybe because it was hard to acces the place Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.17,0:05:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you needed to have a university ID Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.98,0:05:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what I realized afterwards was that in the same city more people organized other ones Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.31,0:05:24.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like one in the beach. In wich Victor was, who at the end became the national coordinator Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.48,0:05:29.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if you got to interview him but it would be interesting Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.69,0:05:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also there was an screening of the documentary in a place called Radiocity Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.67,0:05:42.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we keep on going as the owners agree the ideas of the movement Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.21,0:05:50.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that was how the Valencias chapter was born, that step by step got conected with the one in Barcelona, Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.05,0:05:56.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Mallorcas chapter, the one from Madrid came out a bit later Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.88,0:06:02.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and honestly it has been very spontaneous and it grew in a way Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.56,0:06:09.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's say not continuously but with phases, where there were lots of people Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.80,0:06:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,others where it looked like it was coming to an end but suddenly it regrew with a new story Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.90,0:06:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and new people started to join, and I think right now we are creating what it's supossed to be Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.75,0:06:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wich is to create a new tendency, a new train of thought, and in that direction I think we are heading the right way. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.69,0:06:37.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The situation of Spain right now. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.56,0:06:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The situation right now in Spain as in most countries in the world is dedent Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.50,0:06:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the monetary system is collapsing, it's breaking apart in front or us Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.94,0:07:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We truly are a generation able to see how a system that has beeing runing for centuries Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.45,0:07:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to hold on, abusing of the planet Earth in an unsustainable way Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.62,0:07:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally, It looks like due to his own weight is falling and there is no much more to do about it Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.77,0:07:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really if we see other countries in the world, we can see that the system for them fell long ago Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.26,0:07:37.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it never worked, and they have been victims of our way of living Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.16,0:07:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the way the economic system was organized in the world. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.01,0:07:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in that sense I think the proposal We make with the RBE is basic and everyone should know it Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.17,0:08:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it is really the best option we got to leave behind an obsolete monetary system Dialogue: 0,0:08:05.38,0:08:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will only give us misfortunes and finally being able to advance Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.98,0:08:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and start creating a new reality. Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.73,0:08:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do you see this new reality coming to live? Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.30,0:08:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The transition you mean? Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.11,0:08:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the transition is always a very controversial subject Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.41,0:08:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess each one tends to make more focus in one thing or another, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.63,0:08:46.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me, personally I belive it won't be a winning path Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.45,0:08:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm optimistic, I think the change will come Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.79,0:09:03.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That the RBE or something similar will finaly take place as a logical thing Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.09,0:09:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it wont be one sigle path, We will get there in many different ways Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.58,0:09:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It will be all sort of strategies which at the end will converge in the advances we are waiting for. Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.88,0:09:24.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I belive the common point is the intelligent way of aplying the tecnologies Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.13,0:09:29.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now we see the tecnologies as another element of consumption Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.40,0:09:34.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the tecnology really is what it can make us advance as a society Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.64,0:09:42.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can see it happening with the internet now, and we will see it from there growing Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.46,0:09:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we will keep on constructing through that path and I think this kind of "social tecnologies" Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.89,0:09:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the ones that propel the change in many ways, not just one. Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.37,0:10:10.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we got to take many aproches, and even if TZM centers in one sigle path, maybe there will be people Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.26,0:10:17.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that even without knowing the movement are pushing to the same direction, and this is important to keep in mind, Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.41,0:10:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying always to cooperate as much as possible. Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.73,0:10:26.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A message to the world... Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.48,0:10:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ill take half minute more, I havn't thought about it... Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.43,0:10:45.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ok Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.98,0:10:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The humanity is an ill organism, this is ovbious, and ourselves as cells can become a part of the desease Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.34,0:11:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or try to heal this organ, the human kind all over the planet, so it's your decision. Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.45,0:11:13.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again? without the intro? Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.02,0:11:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ah! the car, yes... Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.29,0:11:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will try to do it again. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.06,0:11:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ok, I don't remember how did I started Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.01,0:11:31.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ok Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.26,0:11:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The human kind is an ill organism, and we, the humans, each one is like a cell Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.80,0:11:51.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to decide if we want to perpetuate this desease or if we want to help solving it, and finally heal, and heal the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.13,0:11:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, is your decision.