1 00:00:00,451 --> 00:00:06,195 My name is Yan, I use the nick name Rabbane in the virtual world 2 00:00:06,210 --> 00:00:09,363 It's a silly thing, but...well 3 00:00:10,748 --> 00:00:19,571 I am in "the movement" I think since November or December 2009 4 00:00:20,694 --> 00:00:25,342 I would say just after Zeitgeist Addendum came out 5 00:00:25,342 --> 00:00:34,333 at the beginning I was watching everything and trying to see what was all that about 6 00:00:34,333 --> 00:00:41,535 because to be honest I thought it was an idea so magnificent that it made me doubt 7 00:00:41,628 --> 00:00:47,024 so I looked for the error in it, and then I understood that really 8 00:00:47,024 --> 00:00:51,177 it was something we were all trying to do together and searching for the best posible solution 9 00:00:51,177 --> 00:00:52,534 for our planet earth. 10 00:00:53,891 --> 00:00:55,417 ok 11 00:00:55,417 --> 00:01:06,926 How did you join the movement? set it up? And then why do you support the resources based economy? 12 00:01:06,926 --> 00:01:10,621 And also, rephrase the question. 13 00:01:10,621 --> 00:01:14,580 can you repeat please? the questions? 14 00:01:19,595 --> 00:01:23,024 well, let me see. 15 00:01:24,178 --> 00:01:29,111 I started collaborating with the movement here in Spain to.... 16 00:01:30,925 --> 00:01:40,126 An the beginning...I was atempting to give...sorry, I am talking about another thing, I realise now 17 00:01:40,957 --> 00:01:44,155 I was talking about the next question I think 18 00:01:45,016 --> 00:01:47,423 Ok, I will restart. 19 00:01:49,531 --> 00:01:56,280 I'm in the movement because I belive that it is the most accurated aproach for the human kind 20 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,958 and for everything in the planet earth. 21 00:02:00,451 --> 00:02:05,867 I belive the future of our planet doesn't just depend on ourselves 22 00:02:05,867 --> 00:02:11,376 but it depends on us what we will do with our specie, the humans, 23 00:02:11,523 --> 00:02:16,584 and in that sense we have little options at the point we are now. 24 00:02:16,584 --> 00:02:26,932 One is to keep going as we are and for sure we will screw it up 25 00:02:26,932 --> 00:02:38,262 and the other is starting to be more self-critical, trying to find the way we can work better, 26 00:02:38,262 --> 00:02:45,699 and in this sense, The Zeitgeist Movement proposes the use of the scientific method 27 00:02:45,699 --> 00:02:53,032 to solve the social issues and I belive that it is the best way, because traditionally 28 00:02:53,032 --> 00:02:58,659 the philosophy have been looking for the more adequate way of living for the human beings 29 00:02:58,659 --> 00:03:01,195 the best way to be happy 30 00:03:01,195 --> 00:03:06,369 but really since the scientific method started to be used 31 00:03:06,369 --> 00:03:12,058 nothing have been so productive and constructive than the contribution that the science and the tecnology made 32 00:03:12,058 --> 00:03:18,652 to the welfare of everyone, and what it might give us in the future in terms of sustainability 33 00:03:18,652 --> 00:03:25,186 and when it comes to evolve as an species to a new level 34 00:03:25,186 --> 00:03:35,200 to a more civilized culture, or maybe in wich WE start to be civilized. 35 00:03:41,770 --> 00:03:46,284 Yes, I forgot, I think I didnt talk about the resources based economic... 36 00:03:46,284 --> 00:03:48,173 what you said is ok. 37 00:03:49,388 --> 00:03:56,712 Next, history of the movement. Present, future. 38 00:03:57,328 --> 00:03:59,104 in Spain... 39 00:04:00,505 --> 00:04:05,431 give me, half minute to think about it... 40 00:04:14,956 --> 00:04:16,591 ok 41 00:04:17,314 --> 00:04:24,008 The Movement here in Spain started just after the first Z Day 42 00:04:24,008 --> 00:04:28,568 That was in March 2009 I think 43 00:04:30,121 --> 00:04:32,719 ...yes, 2009 44 00:04:33,688 --> 00:04:41,513 The people started to come together in different cities, mainly here in Valencia 45 00:04:41,513 --> 00:04:50,467 I have a funny anecdot of that day, that March the 15th 2009, because in the university I was working at 46 00:04:50,467 --> 00:04:57,008 I tryed to make a screening of Zeitgeist Addendum 47 00:04:57,008 --> 00:05:04,169 And sadly no one came, maybe because it was hard to acces the place 48 00:05:04,169 --> 00:05:07,930 as you needed to have a university ID 49 00:05:07,977 --> 00:05:14,313 And what I realized afterwards was that in the same city more people organized other ones 50 00:05:14,313 --> 00:05:24,481 like one in the beach. In wich Victor was, who at the end became the national coordinator 51 00:05:24,481 --> 00:05:29,692 I don't know if you got to interview him but it would be interesting 52 00:05:29,692 --> 00:05:35,668 Also there was an screening of the documentary in a place called Radiocity 53 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:42,145 where we keep on going as the owners agree the ideas of the movement 54 00:05:42,206 --> 00:05:50,050 so that was how the Valencias chapter was born, that step by step got conected with the one in Barcelona, 55 00:05:50,050 --> 00:05:56,882 the Mallorcas chapter, the one from Madrid came out a bit later 56 00:05:56,882 --> 00:06:02,564 and honestly it has been very spontaneous and it grew in a way 57 00:06:02,564 --> 00:06:09,801 let's say not continuously but with phases, where there were lots of people 58 00:06:09,801 --> 00:06:15,899 others where it looked like it was coming to an end but suddenly it regrew with a new story 59 00:06:15,899 --> 00:06:20,748 and new people started to join, and I think right now we are creating what it's supossed to be 60 00:06:20,748 --> 00:06:31,164 wich is to create a new tendency, a new train of thought, and in that direction I think we are heading the right way. 61 00:06:31,687 --> 00:06:37,241 The situation of Spain right now. 62 00:06:41,565 --> 00:06:49,505 The situation right now in Spain as in most countries in the world is dedent 63 00:06:49,505 --> 00:06:57,936 the monetary system is collapsing, it's breaking apart in front or us 64 00:06:57,936 --> 00:07:04,449 We truly are a generation able to see how a system that has beeing runing for centuries 65 00:07:04,449 --> 00:07:12,618 trying to hold on, abusing of the planet Earth in an unsustainable way 66 00:07:12,618 --> 00:07:20,768 and finally, It looks like due to his own weight is falling and there is no much more to do about it 67 00:07:20,768 --> 00:07:29,257 really if we see other countries in the world, we can see that the system for them fell long ago 68 00:07:29,257 --> 00:07:37,155 maybe it never worked, and they have been victims of our way of living 69 00:07:37,155 --> 00:07:48,009 and the way the economic system was organized in the world. 70 00:07:48,009 --> 00:07:57,169 So, in that sense I think the proposal We make with the RBE is basic and everyone should know it 71 00:07:57,169 --> 00:08:05,379 because it is really the best option we got to leave behind an obsolete monetary system 72 00:08:05,379 --> 00:08:10,984 that will only give us misfortunes and finally being able to advance 73 00:08:10,984 --> 00:08:14,733 and start creating a new reality. 74 00:08:14,733 --> 00:08:21,303 So how do you see this new reality coming to live? 75 00:08:21,303 --> 00:08:24,045 The transition you mean? 76 00:08:24,107 --> 00:08:30,407 Well, the transition is always a very controversial subject 77 00:08:30,407 --> 00:08:37,626 I guess each one tends to make more focus in one thing or another, 78 00:08:37,626 --> 00:08:46,452 me, personally I belive it won't be a winning path 79 00:08:46,452 --> 00:08:52,786 I'm optimistic, I think the change will come 80 00:08:52,786 --> 00:09:03,090 That the RBE or something similar will finaly take place as a logical thing 81 00:09:03,090 --> 00:09:08,580 but it wont be one sigle path, We will get there in many different ways 82 00:09:08,580 --> 00:09:16,885 It will be all sort of strategies which at the end will converge in the advances we are waiting for. 83 00:09:16,885 --> 00:09:24,132 I belive the common point is the intelligent way of aplying the tecnologies 84 00:09:24,132 --> 00:09:29,398 right now we see the tecnologies as another element of consumption 85 00:09:29,398 --> 00:09:34,645 but the tecnology really is what it can make us advance as a society 86 00:09:34,645 --> 00:09:42,465 we can see it happening with the internet now, and we will see it from there growing 87 00:09:42,465 --> 00:09:50,890 and we will keep on constructing through that path and I think this kind of "social tecnologies" 88 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:58,372 are the ones that propel the change in many ways, not just one. 89 00:09:58,372 --> 00:10:10,256 we got to take many aproches, and even if TZM centers in one sigle path, maybe there will be people 90 00:10:10,256 --> 00:10:17,414 that even without knowing the movement are pushing to the same direction, and this is important to keep in mind, 91 00:10:17,414 --> 00:10:22,049 trying always to cooperate as much as possible. 92 00:10:23,726 --> 00:10:26,807 A message to the world... 93 00:10:27,485 --> 00:10:31,906 Ill take half minute more, I havn't thought about it... 94 00:10:43,429 --> 00:10:45,302 ok 95 00:10:47,979 --> 00:10:59,335 The humanity is an ill organism, this is ovbious, and ourselves as cells can become a part of the desease 96 00:10:59,335 --> 00:11:07,912 or try to heal this organ, the human kind all over the planet, so it's your decision. 97 00:11:09,452 --> 00:11:13,021 again? without the intro? 98 00:11:13,021 --> 00:11:15,291 ah! the car, yes... 99 00:11:15,291 --> 00:11:18,520 I will try to do it again. 100 00:11:20,059 --> 00:11:23,869 ok, I don't remember how did I started 101 00:11:30,008 --> 00:11:31,600 ok 102 00:11:33,262 --> 00:11:39,797 The human kind is an ill organism, and we, the humans, each one is like a cell 103 00:11:39,797 --> 00:11:51,127 able to decide if we want to perpetuate this desease or if we want to help solving it, and finally heal, and heal the planet. 104 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:53,000 So, is your decision.