WEBVTT 00:00:00.895 --> 00:00:03.785 今時今日,有四千萬個美國人 00:00:03.785 --> 00:00:07.259 孭住一筆讀書債投身社會 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:10.193 佢哋屋企窮,要借錢讀大學 00:00:10.193 --> 00:00:14.509 而家夾埋嘅債務有成一兆美金咁多 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:17.998 呢班畢業生乜嘢工都要試 00:00:17.998 --> 00:00:20.457 為求還得清自己筆債 00:00:21.201 --> 00:00:23.013 喺美國 00:00:23.013 --> 00:00:28.804 連一個破咗產嘅爛賭二都翻身有望 00:00:30.221 --> 00:00:32.523 但完全唔使指意 00:00:32.523 --> 00:00:36.712 一個畢業生可以還清筆債 NOTE Paragraph 00:00:40.461 --> 00:00:42.695 以前响美國 00:00:42.695 --> 00:00:46.405 讀大學唔等於要負債纍纍咁畢業 00:00:46.999 --> 00:00:48.199 我朋友阿 Paul 00:00:48.199 --> 00:00:51.719 佢爸爸喺科羅拉多州立大學畢業 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.299 當年有退伍軍人法保障 00:00:55.546 --> 00:00:57.078 嗰個年代 00:00:57.078 --> 00:00:59.590 大學學費全免,又或者近乎零 00:00:59.590 --> 00:01:02.557 因為政府覺得大專學歷對社會有益 00:01:03.496 --> 00:01:05.322 但好景不常 00:01:06.171 --> 00:01:10.111 輪到阿 Paul 喺同一間大學畢業嗰陣 00:01:10.111 --> 00:01:13.914 英文系畢業嘅佢,要做住兼職嚟還債 00:01:13.914 --> 00:01:15.315 卅年前 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.030 多數人都畀得起大學學費 00:01:18.030 --> 00:01:21.426 你爭落嘅錢,畢業之前就可以還晒 00:01:21.672 --> 00:01:23.102 但好景不常 00:01:23.829 --> 00:01:27.223 輪到阿 Paul 個囡同樣步佢後塵 00:01:27.227 --> 00:01:28.528 唯一唔同嘅係 00:01:28.532 --> 00:01:31.044 五年前佢畢業嗰陣 00:01:31.048 --> 00:01:32.557 孭住成身債 NOTE Paragraph 00:01:33.179 --> 00:01:36.551 阿 Kate 同埋其他大學生都要借錢 00:01:36.551 --> 00:01:39.474 因為大學學費經已貴到 00:01:39.474 --> 00:01:43.387 好多美國家庭都負擔唔起 00:01:44.427 --> 00:01:45.917 咁又點啫? 00:01:45.917 --> 00:01:48.725 借筆錢嚟投資一個貴價學位 00:01:48.725 --> 00:01:51.435 只要第日還到錢,就唔成問題啦 00:01:51.435 --> 00:01:54.859 有大學學歷,起碼有得賺多啲嘛 00:01:55.289 --> 00:01:58.009 但問題嘅癥結就响呢度 00:01:59.292 --> 00:02:03.158 連一個 2001 年畢業嘅人所賺嘅錢 00:02:03.158 --> 00:02:05.259 比起 2013 年畢業嘅 Kate 00:02:05.272 --> 00:02:07.407 仲要多出 10% NOTE Paragraph 00:02:07.984 --> 00:02:09.134 所以… 00:02:09.779 --> 00:02:11.432 學費飆升 00:02:11.432 --> 00:02:12.979 津貼少咗 00:02:12.979 --> 00:02:15.260 家庭收入又縮咗水 00:02:15.260 --> 00:02:17.882 個人收入微薄 00:02:18.241 --> 00:02:21.400 唔怪得有多過四分一嘅畢業生 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.857 連要還債都還唔到 00:02:26.072 --> 00:02:29.813 不過,最壞嘅時刻亦係最好嘅時刻 00:02:29.813 --> 00:02:33.841 因為啲事實就攞喺响你面前,唔理唔得 00:02:34.256 --> 00:02:36.802 今日我想講其中三個事實 NOTE Paragraph 00:02:37.571 --> 00:02:41.505 1.2 兆美金嘅學債 00:02:41.505 --> 00:02:43.934 明顯反映咗 00:02:43.958 --> 00:02:47.696 大學教育經已淪為一種消費品 00:02:48.283 --> 00:02:53.095 我哋講起教育就好似班資本家咁 00:02:53.095 --> 00:02:57.646 將教育當係投資,愛嚟增強人力資本 00:02:57.646 --> 00:02:59.821 訓練啲人出嚟做嘢 00:02:59.821 --> 00:03:04.535 愛嚟將啲學生按等級分類 00:03:04.539 --> 00:03:07.707 等啲僱主請人嗰陣容易啲 00:03:08.396 --> 00:03:11.794 《美國新聞與世界報導》 公布大學排名嘅方式 00:03:11.818 --> 00:03:15.071 十足啲消費報告評估啲洗衣機咁款 00:03:15.095 --> 00:03:18.858 份報告用詞粗暴到極 00:03:18.882 --> 00:03:22.047 叫啲老師做「服務提供者」 00:03:22.047 --> 00:03:24.360 叫啲學生做「消費者」 00:03:25.459 --> 00:03:29.374 社會學呀,莎士比亞呀 足球同埋科學呀 00:03:29.374 --> 00:03:32.149 呢啲冚唪唥叫做「服務內容」 NOTE Paragraph 00:03:32.798 --> 00:03:34.729 學業借貸好好賺 00:03:34.729 --> 00:03:36.923 不過賺嗰個唔會係你 00:03:37.741 --> 00:03:42.100 你嘅債務甚至養肥咗 成個學生借貸行業 00:03:42.100 --> 00:03:44.507 呢個行頭其中兩條巨龍 00:03:44.507 --> 00:03:46.558 Sallie Mae 同埋 Navient 00:03:46.558 --> 00:03:51.794 公布上年總盈利一共有 12 億美金 00:03:52.568 --> 00:03:55.160 學生貸款正正同樓宇按揭一樣 00:03:55.164 --> 00:03:58.334 可以係捆綁式、套餐式同拆件式 00:03:58.334 --> 00:04:00.029 响華爾街出售 00:04:00.029 --> 00:04:01.895 啲大專院校 00:04:01.895 --> 00:04:05.609 投資呢啲證券貸款嘅時候 00:04:06.170 --> 00:04:07.595 頭尾賺兩轉 00:04:07.595 --> 00:04:09.256 首先賺你筆學費 00:04:09.256 --> 00:04:11.560 跟住賺你啲息口 NOTE Paragraph 00:04:12.528 --> 00:04:14.958 睇見盤生意咁好賺 00:04:14.958 --> 00:04:19.771 大家仲會奇怪嗰啲高等教育辦學團體 00:04:19.771 --> 00:04:23.055 點解會用啲失實嘅宣傳手段 00:04:23.055 --> 00:04:24.702 嚟推銷利誘 00:04:26.335 --> 00:04:30.990 藉教育嚟剝削緊乜都唔知嘅學生嗎? NOTE Paragraph 00:04:32.144 --> 00:04:33.294 第三: 00:04:33.308 --> 00:04:35.347 學位經已淪為品牌 00:04:35.531 --> 00:04:38.092 當年我有個老師寫話: 00:04:38.116 --> 00:04:40.641 「當學生變成一班消費者, 00:04:40.641 --> 00:04:44.266 佢哋就會喺度盲追學位,鬥生鬥死。」 00:04:47.794 --> 00:04:51.989 正如蘋果不斷向人推銷新款 iPhone 00:04:51.989 --> 00:04:55.421 做教育嘅亦可以不斷向人推銷學位 00:04:56.387 --> 00:04:58.713 昨日嘅中學,變成今日嘅大學 00:04:58.713 --> 00:05:00.251 一早有人咁講過 00:05:01.168 --> 00:05:02.807 但點解要停喺呢一步? 00:05:02.811 --> 00:05:06.408 大學可以不斷招攬人讀文憑,讀完再讀 00:05:06.408 --> 00:05:08.688 再讀碩士學位、博士學位 NOTE Paragraph 00:05:11.436 --> 00:05:15.149 佢哋仲推銷專上教育係地位嘅象徵 00:05:16.634 --> 00:05:17.769 買學位 00:05:17.769 --> 00:05:20.770 同你買架凌志、買個 LV 一樣 00:05:20.770 --> 00:05:22.668 係買嚟抬高身價 00:05:22.668 --> 00:05:25.469 靠佢,你可以招人妒忌 00:05:26.669 --> 00:05:28.930 學位已經淪為品牌 NOTE Paragraph 00:05:28.930 --> 00:05:35.629 但係呢啲真相成日畀一片叫賣聲掩埋 00:05:36.365 --> 00:05:39.471 日日硬係有班政客 00:05:39.471 --> 00:05:43.226 喺個公仔箱度同我哋講: 00:05:43.226 --> 00:05:45.064 「大學學位好重要, 00:05:45.064 --> 00:05:48.411 有佢先可以扶搖直上、做到中產。」 00:05:48.890 --> 00:05:52.552 通常理據就係專上學歷競爭力高: 00:05:52.552 --> 00:05:57.839 大專畢業比起高中畢業平均賺多 56% NOTE Paragraph 00:05:58.425 --> 00:06:00.473 我哋再細心啲解讀個數字 00:06:00.497 --> 00:06:01.823 因為驟眼睇 00:06:01.847 --> 00:06:05.191 個數字好似喺度推翻緊嗰啲 00:06:05.215 --> 00:06:09.603 「大學畢業做收銀沖咖啡」 之類嘅新聞咁 00:06:10.545 --> 00:06:15.696 响 100 個有專上學歷嘅人裏面 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.768 45 個冇順利畢業 00:06:18.792 --> 00:06:21.858 原因好多,財政困難係其一 00:06:22.245 --> 00:06:24.188 嗰 55 個順利畢業嘅人 00:06:24.212 --> 00:06:26.254 有兩個冇嘢做 00:06:26.254 --> 00:06:29.014 有 18 個搵唔到長工 00:06:30.058 --> 00:06:33.587 雖然大學畢業生搵得多過中學畢業生 00:06:33.587 --> 00:06:36.624 但究竟佢哋夠唔夠填嗰筆巨債 00:06:36.624 --> 00:06:39.435 同埋你讀書嗰陣冇咗嘅搵錢機會呢? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:39.661 --> 00:06:42.257 依家連經濟學家都承認 00:06:42.281 --> 00:06:47.511 只有順利畢到業嘅大學生先還得哂 00:06:48.095 --> 00:06:52.127 而純粹係因為中學畢業生嘅薪水 00:06:52.151 --> 00:06:53.801 幾廿年嚟大幅縮水 00:06:55.369 --> 00:06:57.258 咁多年嚟 00:06:57.282 --> 00:06:59.639 有高中學歷嘅人 00:06:59.663 --> 00:07:03.766 付出同收入唔成正比 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:07.385 若果佢哋可以賺返佢哋應得嘅水平 00:07:07.409 --> 00:07:11.362 咁讀大學對好多人嚟講肯定係蝕大本 00:07:11.386 --> 00:07:13.512 大學畢業生薪水嘅溢價 00:07:13.941 --> 00:07:15.835 我睇都係靠高中畢業生倒貼而嚟 NOTE Paragraph 00:07:16.235 --> 00:07:21.182 有三份二嘅大學畢業生發現 工作未如理想 00:07:21.756 --> 00:07:24.687 佢哋唔睇好前景 00:07:24.687 --> 00:07:26.637 或者直情覺得前途暗淡 00:07:26.637 --> 00:07:29.581 而正正係佢哋要去承受 00:07:30.541 --> 00:07:33.224 學債帶嚟嘅沉重負擔 00:07:33.882 --> 00:07:36.523 最心悒嘅係,正正係佢哋 00:07:36.583 --> 00:07:40.701 畀人最落力用學位升值呢個理由氹落搭 00:07:41.686 --> 00:07:44.413 咁嘅銷售伎倆,自私自利不特止 00:07:44.413 --> 00:07:46.167 仲係麻木不仁 NOTE Paragraph 00:07:46.987 --> 00:07:48.427 咁我哋做啲乜嘢好? 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:55.218 如果學生同家長都當學位係商品呢? 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.078 個個似乎都咁睇 00:07:58.686 --> 00:08:00.682 買任何商品嗰陣 00:08:00.682 --> 00:08:03.471 你會要人哋清楚交代件貨嘅詳情 00:08:03.495 --> 00:08:04.750 你去買藥 00:08:04.750 --> 00:08:06.649 佢會寫明有咩副作用 00:08:06.673 --> 00:08:08.689 你買件大學商品嗰陣 00:08:08.689 --> 00:08:10.443 佢需要有張警告標籤 00:08:10.467 --> 00:08:12.503 畀消費者有權揀 00:08:12.503 --> 00:08:14.242 知情下做決定 00:08:14.838 --> 00:08:15.924 你去買車 00:08:15.924 --> 00:08:18.528 佢會話你知每加侖預計跑到幾多里 00:08:18.528 --> 00:08:20.904 但冇人會預計到讀完大學 00:08:20.904 --> 00:08:24.326 譬如讀完科「加拿大研究」前景會係點 00:08:24.326 --> 00:08:26.835 真係有呢個學系㗎 NOTE Paragraph 00:08:28.589 --> 00:08:31.794 假如有個應用程式可以話個前景我哋知? 00:08:34.402 --> 00:08:39.500 計吓個學費同預期人工係咪成正比 00:08:39.798 --> 00:08:42.574 暫且叫個應用程式做 Income-Based Tuition 或者 IBT 啦 00:08:42.598 --> 00:08:44.120 係你哋其中一個人設計而嚟 NOTE Paragraph 00:08:44.144 --> 00:08:45.327 (笑聲) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:45.327 --> 00:08:47.569 正視返你嘅前途問題 NOTE Paragraph 00:08:47.569 --> 00:08:49.646 (笑聲) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:49.646 --> 00:08:53.595 IBT 呢個應用程式有三個好處 00:08:55.232 --> 00:08:57.121 用戶可以知道 00:08:57.145 --> 00:09:00.789 讀完某某大學同埋學系,人工會係幾多 00:09:01.105 --> 00:09:02.447 用家有咗呢啲資訊 00:09:02.471 --> 00:09:03.970 就冇咁易 00:09:03.970 --> 00:09:07.744 畀啲無良推銷員氹得掂 00:09:07.744 --> 00:09:09.524 同時可以揀得明智啲 00:09:09.524 --> 00:09:12.006 到時仲邊有人會交一筆 00:09:12.030 --> 00:09:15.276 高過預期人工 15% 嘅學費出嚟呢? NOTE Paragraph 00:09:17.040 --> 00:09:19.756 IBT 有第二個好處 00:09:19.780 --> 00:09:22.740 透過顯示學費同薪金嘅關係 00:09:22.764 --> 00:09:27.185 大學管理層必須要運用新思維 00:09:27.209 --> 00:09:29.549 去妥善釐訂學費 00:09:29.573 --> 00:09:30.727 譬如 00:09:30.751 --> 00:09:34.751 大部份嘅學生不論學系,學費劃一 00:09:35.478 --> 00:09:39.845 呢個制度明顯好唔公平,需要改革 00:09:40.295 --> 00:09:44.216 工程系嘅學生通常用到嘅資源 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.649 譬如設施、實驗室、教職員呢啲 00:09:46.673 --> 00:09:48.561 會多過哲學系嘅學生 00:09:49.581 --> 00:09:50.939 但呢班哲學生 00:09:50.939 --> 00:09:53.980 變相資助緊班工程系學生 00:09:53.980 --> 00:09:56.991 第時人工高一截嘅工程系學生 00:09:57.015 --> 00:10:00.096 點解要兩個人買嘅貨一樣 00:10:00.096 --> 00:10:01.695 畀嘅錢一樣 00:10:01.695 --> 00:10:04.992 但其中一個淨係享用到 一半甚或三份一呢? 00:10:06.448 --> 00:10:10.519 事實上,某啲學系嘅畢業生 00:10:10.543 --> 00:10:13.887 拎緊人工嘅 25% 嚟還債 00:10:13.887 --> 00:10:16.490 但另一啲拎 5% 就得 00:10:17.350 --> 00:10:22.216 咁學科收費合理啲就會消除呢啲不公平 NOTE Paragraph 00:10:23.042 --> 00:10:25.201 當然啦,而家呢堆資料… 00:10:25.225 --> 00:10:27.299 我諗在座會有人走去搞㗎可? 00:10:27.323 --> 00:10:29.170 呢堆資料要有人整理好 00:10:29.194 --> 00:10:31.292 譬如交畀會計公司做審計 00:10:31.316 --> 00:10:33.268 避免畀啲統計數字呃 00:10:33.292 --> 00:10:35.257 統計大家都識㗎可? NOTE Paragraph 00:10:36.466 --> 00:10:37.989 除咗正話兩個好處 00:10:38.013 --> 00:10:42.394 第三個,而且係 IBT 最大嘅好處 00:10:42.418 --> 00:10:47.381 就係令美國人唔使驚再陷入財困 00:10:47.381 --> 00:10:50.147 唔使再驚買咗件爛貨返嚟 NOTE Paragraph 00:10:50.813 --> 00:10:52.896 或者某個時刻 00:10:52.896 --> 00:10:55.404 新舊兩代嘅美國人重新發現 00:10:55.428 --> 00:10:57.479 正如頭先嗰位講者所講 00:10:57.479 --> 00:10:59.688 對知識嘅追求同熱愛 00:10:59.712 --> 00:11:01.149 開始學啲想學嘅嘢 00:11:01.173 --> 00:11:03.812 鍾意自己學緊嘅嘢,隨心而行 00:11:04.577 --> 00:11:07.046 深受知識所啟發 00:11:07.070 --> 00:11:10.507 去探索自己渴望探索嘅事物 NOTE Paragraph 00:11:10.848 --> 00:11:15.298 望返轉頭,其實係阿 Eric 同 Kevin 00:11:15.322 --> 00:11:16.490 兩年前 00:11:17.498 --> 00:11:20.930 正正係呢一班後生仔 00:11:20.954 --> 00:11:22.976 佢哋鼓勵我,同我共事 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:24.561 到到而家 00:11:24.585 --> 00:11:28.561 依然落力研究緊美國呢個學生貸款問題 NOTE Paragraph 00:11:29.272 --> 00:11:30.803 好多謝大家! NOTE Paragraph 00:11:30.827 --> 00:11:35.391 (鼓掌)