0:00:00.895,0:00:03.785 今時今日,有四千萬個美國人 0:00:03.785,0:00:07.259 孭住一筆讀書債投身社會 0:00:07.759,0:00:10.193 佢哋屋企窮,要借錢讀大學 0:00:10.193,0:00:14.509 而家夾埋嘅債務有成一兆美金咁多 0:00:15.599,0:00:17.998 呢班畢業生乜嘢工都要試 0:00:17.998,0:00:20.457 為求還得清自己筆債 0:00:21.201,0:00:23.013 喺美國 0:00:23.013,0:00:28.804 連一個破咗產嘅爛賭二都翻身有望 0:00:30.221,0:00:32.523 但完全唔使指意 0:00:32.523,0:00:36.712 一個畢業生可以還清筆債 0:00:40.461,0:00:42.695 以前响美國 0:00:42.695,0:00:46.405 讀大學唔等於要負債纍纍咁畢業 0:00:46.999,0:00:48.199 我朋友阿 Paul 0:00:48.199,0:00:51.719 佢爸爸喺科羅拉多州立大學畢業 0:00:51.719,0:00:54.299 當年有退伍軍人法保障 0:00:55.546,0:00:57.078 嗰個年代 0:00:57.078,0:00:59.590 大學學費全免,又或者近乎零 0:00:59.590,0:01:02.557 因為政府覺得大專學歷對社會有益 0:01:03.496,0:01:05.322 但好景不常 0:01:06.171,0:01:10.111 輪到阿 Paul 喺同一間大學畢業嗰陣 0:01:10.111,0:01:13.914 英文系畢業嘅佢,要做住兼職嚟還債 0:01:13.914,0:01:15.315 卅年前 0:01:15.319,0:01:18.030 多數人都畀得起大學學費 0:01:18.030,0:01:21.426 你爭落嘅錢,畢業之前就可以還晒 0:01:21.672,0:01:23.102 但好景不常 0:01:23.829,0:01:27.223 輪到阿 Paul 個囡同樣步佢後塵 0:01:27.227,0:01:28.528 唯一唔同嘅係 0:01:28.532,0:01:31.044 五年前佢畢業嗰陣 0:01:31.048,0:01:32.557 孭住成身債 0:01:33.179,0:01:36.551 阿 Kate 同埋其他大學生都要借錢 0:01:36.551,0:01:39.474 因為大學學費經已貴到 0:01:39.474,0:01:43.387 好多美國家庭都負擔唔起 0:01:44.427,0:01:45.917 咁又點啫? 0:01:45.917,0:01:48.725 借筆錢嚟投資一個貴價學位 0:01:48.725,0:01:51.435 只要第日還到錢,就唔成問題啦 0:01:51.435,0:01:54.859 有大學學歷,起碼有得賺多啲嘛 0:01:55.289,0:01:58.009 但問題嘅癥結就响呢度 0:01:59.292,0:02:03.158 連一個 2001 年畢業嘅人所賺嘅錢 0:02:03.158,0:02:05.259 比起 2013 年畢業嘅 Kate 0:02:05.272,0:02:07.407 仲要多出 10% 0:02:07.984,0:02:09.134 所以… 0:02:09.779,0:02:11.432 學費飆升 0:02:11.432,0:02:12.979 津貼少咗 0:02:12.979,0:02:15.260 家庭收入又縮咗水 0:02:15.260,0:02:17.882 個人收入微薄 0:02:18.241,0:02:21.400 唔怪得有多過四分一嘅畢業生 0:02:21.400,0:02:24.857 連要還債都還唔到 0:02:26.072,0:02:29.813 不過,最壞嘅時刻亦係最好嘅時刻 0:02:29.813,0:02:33.841 因為啲事實就攞喺响你面前,唔理唔得 0:02:34.256,0:02:36.802 今日我想講其中三個事實 0:02:37.571,0:02:41.505 1.2 兆美金嘅學債 0:02:41.505,0:02:43.934 明顯反映咗 0:02:43.958,0:02:47.696 大學教育經已淪為一種消費品 0:02:48.283,0:02:53.095 我哋講起教育就好似班資本家咁 0:02:53.095,0:02:57.646 將教育當係投資,愛嚟增強人力資本 0:02:57.646,0:02:59.821 訓練啲人出嚟做嘢 0:02:59.821,0:03:04.535 愛嚟將啲學生按等級分類 0:03:04.539,0:03:07.707 等啲僱主請人嗰陣容易啲 0:03:08.396,0:03:11.794 《美國新聞與世界報導》[br]公布大學排名嘅方式 0:03:11.818,0:03:15.071 十足啲消費報告評估啲洗衣機咁款 0:03:15.095,0:03:18.858 份報告用詞粗暴到極 0:03:18.882,0:03:22.047 叫啲老師做「服務提供者」 0:03:22.047,0:03:24.360 叫啲學生做「消費者」 0:03:25.459,0:03:29.374 社會學呀,莎士比亞呀[br]足球同埋科學呀 0:03:29.374,0:03:32.149 呢啲冚唪唥叫做「服務內容」 0:03:32.798,0:03:34.729 學業借貸好好賺 0:03:34.729,0:03:36.923 不過賺嗰個唔會係你 0:03:37.741,0:03:42.100 你嘅債務甚至養肥咗[br]成個學生借貸行業 0:03:42.100,0:03:44.507 呢個行頭其中兩條巨龍 0:03:44.507,0:03:46.558 Sallie Mae 同埋 Navient 0:03:46.558,0:03:51.794 公布上年總盈利一共有 12 億美金 0:03:52.568,0:03:55.160 學生貸款正正同樓宇按揭一樣 0:03:55.164,0:03:58.334 可以係捆綁式、套餐式同拆件式 0:03:58.334,0:04:00.029 响華爾街出售 0:04:00.029,0:04:01.895 啲大專院校 0:04:01.895,0:04:05.609 投資呢啲證券貸款嘅時候 0:04:06.170,0:04:07.595 頭尾賺兩轉 0:04:07.595,0:04:09.256 首先賺你筆學費 0:04:09.256,0:04:11.560 跟住賺你啲息口 0:04:12.528,0:04:14.958 睇見盤生意咁好賺 0:04:14.958,0:04:19.771 大家仲會奇怪嗰啲高等教育辦學團體 0:04:19.771,0:04:23.055 點解會用啲失實嘅宣傳手段 0:04:23.055,0:04:24.702 嚟推銷利誘 0:04:26.335,0:04:30.990 藉教育嚟剝削緊乜都唔知嘅學生嗎? 0:04:32.144,0:04:33.294 第三: 0:04:33.308,0:04:35.347 學位經已淪為品牌 0:04:35.531,0:04:38.092 當年我有個老師寫話: 0:04:38.116,0:04:40.641 「當學生變成一班消費者, 0:04:40.641,0:04:44.266 佢哋就會喺度盲追學位,鬥生鬥死。」 0:04:47.794,0:04:51.989 正如蘋果不斷向人推銷新款 iPhone 0:04:51.989,0:04:55.421 做教育嘅亦可以不斷向人推銷學位 0:04:56.387,0:04:58.713 昨日嘅中學,變成今日嘅大學 0:04:58.713,0:05:00.251 一早有人咁講過 0:05:01.168,0:05:02.807 但點解要停喺呢一步? 0:05:02.811,0:05:06.408 大學可以不斷招攬人讀文憑,讀完再讀 0:05:06.408,0:05:08.688 再讀碩士學位、博士學位 0:05:11.436,0:05:15.149 佢哋仲推銷專上教育係地位嘅象徵 0:05:16.634,0:05:17.769 買學位 0:05:17.769,0:05:20.770 同你買架凌志、買個 LV 一樣 0:05:20.770,0:05:22.668 係買嚟抬高身價 0:05:22.668,0:05:25.469 靠佢,你可以招人妒忌 0:05:26.669,0:05:28.930 學位已經淪為品牌 0:05:28.930,0:05:35.629 但係呢啲真相成日畀一片叫賣聲掩埋 0:05:36.365,0:05:39.471 日日硬係有班政客 0:05:39.471,0:05:43.226 喺個公仔箱度同我哋講: 0:05:43.226,0:05:45.064 「大學學位好重要, 0:05:45.064,0:05:48.411 有佢先可以扶搖直上、做到中產。」 0:05:48.890,0:05:52.552 通常理據就係專上學歷競爭力高: 0:05:52.552,0:05:57.839 大專畢業比起高中畢業平均賺多 56% 0:05:58.425,0:06:00.473 我哋再細心啲解讀個數字 0:06:00.497,0:06:01.823 因為驟眼睇 0:06:01.847,0:06:05.191 個數字好似喺度推翻緊嗰啲 0:06:05.215,0:06:09.603 「大學畢業做收銀沖咖啡」[br]之類嘅新聞咁 0:06:10.545,0:06:15.696 响 100 個有專上學歷嘅人裏面 0:06:15.720,0:06:18.768 45 個冇順利畢業 0:06:18.792,0:06:21.858 原因好多,財政困難係其一 0:06:22.245,0:06:24.188 嗰 55 個順利畢業嘅人 0:06:24.212,0:06:26.254 有兩個冇嘢做 0:06:26.254,0:06:29.014 有 18 個搵唔到長工 0:06:30.058,0:06:33.587 雖然大學畢業生搵得多過中學畢業生 0:06:33.587,0:06:36.624 但究竟佢哋夠唔夠填嗰筆巨債 0:06:36.624,0:06:39.435 同埋你讀書嗰陣冇咗嘅搵錢機會呢? 0:06:39.661,0:06:42.257 依家連經濟學家都承認 0:06:42.281,0:06:47.511 只有順利畢到業嘅大學生先還得哂[br] 0:06:48.095,0:06:52.127 而純粹係因為中學畢業生嘅薪水[br] 0:06:52.151,0:06:53.801 幾廿年嚟大幅縮水 0:06:55.369,0:06:57.258 咁多年嚟 0:06:57.282,0:06:59.639 有高中學歷嘅人 0:06:59.663,0:07:03.766 付出同收入唔成正比 0:07:04.480,0:07:07.385 若果佢哋可以賺返佢哋應得嘅水平 0:07:07.409,0:07:11.362 咁讀大學對好多人嚟講肯定係蝕大本 0:07:11.386,0:07:13.512 大學畢業生薪水嘅溢價 0:07:13.941,0:07:15.835 我睇都係靠高中畢業生倒貼而嚟 0:07:16.235,0:07:21.182 有三份二嘅大學畢業生發現[br]工作未如理想 0:07:21.756,0:07:24.687 佢哋唔睇好前景 0:07:24.687,0:07:26.637 或者直情覺得前途暗淡 0:07:26.637,0:07:29.581 而正正係佢哋要去承受 0:07:30.541,0:07:33.224 學債帶嚟嘅沉重負擔 0:07:33.882,0:07:36.523 最心悒嘅係,正正係佢哋 0:07:36.583,0:07:40.701 畀人最落力用學位升值呢個理由氹落搭 0:07:41.686,0:07:44.413 咁嘅銷售伎倆,自私自利不特止 0:07:44.413,0:07:46.167 仲係麻木不仁 0:07:46.987,0:07:48.427 咁我哋做啲乜嘢好? 0:07:49.279,0:07:55.218 如果學生同家長都當學位係商品呢? 0:07:55.879,0:07:58.078 個個似乎都咁睇 0:07:58.686,0:08:00.682 買任何商品嗰陣 0:08:00.682,0:08:03.471 你會要人哋清楚交代件貨嘅詳情 0:08:03.495,0:08:04.750 你去買藥 0:08:04.750,0:08:06.649 佢會寫明有咩副作用 0:08:06.673,0:08:08.689 你買件大學商品嗰陣 0:08:08.689,0:08:10.443 佢需要有張警告標籤 0:08:10.467,0:08:12.503 畀消費者有權揀 0:08:12.503,0:08:14.242 知情下做決定 0:08:14.838,0:08:15.924 你去買車 0:08:15.924,0:08:18.528 佢會話你知每加侖預計跑到幾多里 0:08:18.528,0:08:20.904 但冇人會預計到讀完大學 0:08:20.904,0:08:24.326 譬如讀完科「加拿大研究」前景會係點 0:08:24.326,0:08:26.835 真係有呢個學系㗎 0:08:28.589,0:08:31.794 假如有個應用程式可以話個前景我哋知? 0:08:34.402,0:08:39.500 計吓個學費同預期人工係咪成正比 0:08:39.798,0:08:42.574 暫且叫個應用程式做 [br]Income-Based Tuition 或者 IBT 啦 0:08:42.598,0:08:44.120 係你哋其中一個人設計而嚟 0:08:44.144,0:08:45.327 (笑聲) 0:08:45.327,0:08:47.569 正視返你嘅前途問題 0:08:47.569,0:08:49.646 (笑聲) 0:08:49.646,0:08:53.595 IBT 呢個應用程式有三個好處 0:08:55.232,0:08:57.121 用戶可以知道 0:08:57.145,0:09:00.789 讀完某某大學同埋學系,人工會係幾多 0:09:01.105,0:09:02.447 用家有咗呢啲資訊 0:09:02.471,0:09:03.970 就冇咁易 0:09:03.970,0:09:07.744 畀啲無良推銷員氹得掂 0:09:07.744,0:09:09.524 同時可以揀得明智啲 0:09:09.524,0:09:12.006 到時仲邊有人會交一筆 0:09:12.030,0:09:15.276 高過預期人工 15% 嘅學費出嚟呢? 0:09:17.040,0:09:19.756 IBT 有第二個好處 0:09:19.780,0:09:22.740 透過顯示學費同薪金嘅關係 0:09:22.764,0:09:27.185 大學管理層必須要運用新思維 0:09:27.209,0:09:29.549 去妥善釐訂學費 0:09:29.573,0:09:30.727 譬如 0:09:30.751,0:09:34.751 大部份嘅學生不論學系,學費劃一 0:09:35.478,0:09:39.845 呢個制度明顯好唔公平,需要改革 0:09:40.295,0:09:44.216 工程系嘅學生通常用到嘅資源 0:09:44.240,0:09:46.649 譬如設施、實驗室、教職員呢啲 0:09:46.673,0:09:48.561 會多過哲學系嘅學生 0:09:49.581,0:09:50.939 但呢班哲學生 0:09:50.939,0:09:53.980 變相資助緊班工程系學生 0:09:53.980,0:09:56.991 第時人工高一截嘅工程系學生 0:09:57.015,0:10:00.096 點解要兩個人買嘅貨一樣 0:10:00.096,0:10:01.695 畀嘅錢一樣 0:10:01.695,0:10:04.992 但其中一個淨係享用到[br]一半甚或三份一呢? 0:10:06.448,0:10:10.519 事實上,某啲學系嘅畢業生 0:10:10.543,0:10:13.887 拎緊人工嘅 25% 嚟還債 0:10:13.887,0:10:16.490 但另一啲拎 5% 就得 0:10:17.350,0:10:22.216 咁學科收費合理啲就會消除呢啲不公平 0:10:23.042,0:10:25.201 當然啦,而家呢堆資料… 0:10:25.225,0:10:27.299 我諗在座會有人走去搞㗎可? 0:10:27.323,0:10:29.170 呢堆資料要有人整理好 0:10:29.194,0:10:31.292 譬如交畀會計公司做審計 0:10:31.316,0:10:33.268 避免畀啲統計數字呃 0:10:33.292,0:10:35.257 統計大家都識㗎可? 0:10:36.466,0:10:37.989 除咗正話兩個好處 0:10:38.013,0:10:42.394 第三個,而且係 IBT 最大嘅好處 0:10:42.418,0:10:47.381 就係令美國人唔使驚再陷入財困 0:10:47.381,0:10:50.147 唔使再驚買咗件爛貨返嚟 0:10:50.813,0:10:52.896 或者某個時刻 0:10:52.896,0:10:55.404 新舊兩代嘅美國人重新發現 0:10:55.428,0:10:57.479 正如頭先嗰位講者所講 0:10:57.479,0:10:59.688 對知識嘅追求同熱愛 0:10:59.712,0:11:01.149 開始學啲想學嘅嘢 0:11:01.173,0:11:03.812 鍾意自己學緊嘅嘢,隨心而行 0:11:04.577,0:11:07.046 深受知識所啟發 0:11:07.070,0:11:10.507 去探索自己渴望探索嘅事物 0:11:10.848,0:11:15.298 望返轉頭,其實係阿 Eric 同 Kevin 0:11:15.322,0:11:16.490 兩年前 0:11:17.498,0:11:20.930 正正係呢一班後生仔 0:11:20.954,0:11:22.976 佢哋鼓勵我,同我共事 0:11:23.000,0:11:24.561 到到而家 0:11:24.585,0:11:28.561 依然落力研究緊美國呢個學生貸款問題 0:11:29.272,0:11:30.803 好多謝大家! 0:11:30.827,0:11:35.391 (鼓掌)