WEBVTT 00:00:00.975 --> 00:00:06.435 Today 40 million Americans are indebted for their passage to the new economy. 00:00:08.039 --> 00:00:10.143 Too poor to pay their way through college, 00:00:10.167 --> 00:00:14.509 they now owe lenders more than one trillion US dollars. 00:00:15.709 --> 00:00:17.948 They do find what jobs they can get 00:00:17.972 --> 00:00:20.457 to pay off a debt that is secured on their person. 00:00:21.201 --> 00:00:23.249 In America, 00:00:23.273 --> 00:00:28.804 even a bankrupt gambler gets a second chance. 00:00:30.351 --> 00:00:33.153 But it is nearly impossible 00:00:33.177 --> 00:00:36.652 for an American to get discharged their student loan debts. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:40.421 --> 00:00:43.141 Once upon a time in America, 00:00:43.165 --> 00:00:45.815 going to college did not mean graduating with debt. 00:00:47.299 --> 00:00:52.585 My friend Paul's father graduated from Colorado State University 00:00:52.609 --> 00:00:53.759 on the GI Bill. 00:00:55.546 --> 00:00:57.134 For his generation, 00:00:57.158 --> 00:01:00.006 higher education was free or almost free, 00:01:00.030 --> 00:01:02.427 because it was thought of as a public good. 00:01:03.676 --> 00:01:04.872 Not anymore. 00:01:06.171 --> 00:01:10.267 When Paul also graduated from Colorado State University, 00:01:10.291 --> 00:01:13.664 he paid for his English degree by working part-time. 00:01:14.164 --> 00:01:15.315 30 years ago, 00:01:15.339 --> 00:01:18.006 higher education tuition was affordable, reasonable, 00:01:18.030 --> 00:01:21.426 and what debts you accumulated, you paid off by graduation date. 00:01:21.952 --> 00:01:23.102 Not anymore. 00:01:23.829 --> 00:01:27.203 Paul's daughter followed in his footsteps, 00:01:27.227 --> 00:01:28.528 but with one difference: 00:01:28.552 --> 00:01:31.044 when she graduated five years ago, 00:01:31.068 --> 00:01:32.417 it was with a whopping debt. NOTE Paragraph 00:01:33.179 --> 00:01:36.521 Students like Kate have to take on a loan 00:01:36.545 --> 00:01:39.744 because the cost of higher education has become unaffordable 00:01:39.768 --> 00:01:43.457 for many if not most American families. 00:01:44.427 --> 00:01:45.577 But so what? 00:01:46.117 --> 00:01:48.665 Getting into debt to buy an expensive education 00:01:48.689 --> 00:01:51.451 is not all bad if you could pay it off 00:01:51.475 --> 00:01:54.609 with the increased income that you earned from it. 00:01:55.266 --> 00:01:57.379 But that's where the rubber meets the road. 00:01:59.652 --> 00:02:05.248 Even a college grad earned 10 percent more in 2001 00:02:05.272 --> 00:02:07.247 than she did in 2013. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:07.984 --> 00:02:09.134 So ... 00:02:09.779 --> 00:02:11.438 tuition costs up, 00:02:11.462 --> 00:02:12.985 public funding down, 00:02:13.009 --> 00:02:15.446 family incomes diminished, 00:02:15.470 --> 00:02:17.882 personal incomes weak. 00:02:18.241 --> 00:02:22.646 Is it any wonder that more than a quarter of those who must 00:02:22.670 --> 00:02:24.677 cannot make their student loan payments? 00:02:26.852 --> 00:02:29.829 The worst of times can be the best of times, 00:02:29.853 --> 00:02:33.731 because certain truths flash up in ways that you can't ignore. 00:02:34.446 --> 00:02:36.392 I want to speak of three of them today. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:37.571 --> 00:02:41.445 1.2 trillion dollars of debts for diplomas 00:02:41.469 --> 00:02:43.934 make it abundantly obvious 00:02:43.958 --> 00:02:47.696 that higher education is a consumer product you can buy. 00:02:48.283 --> 00:02:53.101 All of us talk about education just as the economists do now, 00:02:53.125 --> 00:02:57.606 as an investment that you make to improve the human stock 00:02:57.630 --> 00:02:59.371 by training them for work. 00:02:59.812 --> 00:03:04.535 As an investment you make to sort and classify people 00:03:04.559 --> 00:03:07.327 so that employers can hire them more easily. 00:03:08.396 --> 00:03:11.794 The U.S. News & World Report ranks colleges 00:03:11.818 --> 00:03:15.071 just as the consumer report rates washing machines. 00:03:15.095 --> 00:03:18.858 The language is peppered with barbarisms. 00:03:18.882 --> 00:03:22.263 Teachers are called "service providers," 00:03:22.287 --> 00:03:24.040 students are called "consumers." 00:03:25.509 --> 00:03:29.390 Sociology and Shakespeare and soccer and science, 00:03:29.414 --> 00:03:31.009 all of these are "content." NOTE Paragraph 00:03:33.318 --> 00:03:34.699 Student debt is profitable. 00:03:34.723 --> 00:03:35.873 Only not on you. 00:03:37.961 --> 00:03:41.564 Your debt fattens the profit of the student loan industry. 00:03:42.040 --> 00:03:44.477 The two 800-pound gorillas of which -- 00:03:44.501 --> 00:03:46.564 Sallie Mae and Navient -- 00:03:46.588 --> 00:03:51.794 posted last year a combined profit of 1.2 billion dollars. 00:03:52.568 --> 00:03:55.140 And just like home mortgages, 00:03:55.164 --> 00:03:58.350 student loans can be bundled and packaged and sliced and diced, 00:03:58.374 --> 00:03:59.624 and sold on Wall Street. 00:04:00.369 --> 00:04:01.965 And colleges and universities 00:04:01.989 --> 00:04:05.289 that invest in these securitized loans 00:04:06.170 --> 00:04:07.321 profit twice. 00:04:07.735 --> 00:04:09.156 Once from your tuition, 00:04:09.180 --> 00:04:11.560 and then again from the interest on debt. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:13.108 --> 00:04:15.474 With all that money to be made, 00:04:15.498 --> 00:04:21.085 are we surprised that some in the higher education business 00:04:21.109 --> 00:04:23.181 have begun to engage in false advertising, 00:04:23.205 --> 00:04:24.362 in bait and switch ... 00:04:26.585 --> 00:04:30.680 in exploiting the very ignorance that they pretend to educate? NOTE Paragraph 00:04:32.144 --> 00:04:33.294 Third: 00:04:33.678 --> 00:04:35.067 diplomas are a brand. 00:04:35.741 --> 00:04:38.092 Many years ago my teacher wrote, 00:04:38.116 --> 00:04:40.657 "When students are treated as consumers, 00:04:40.681 --> 00:04:43.806 they're made prisoners of addiction and envy." 00:04:47.794 --> 00:04:52.335 Just as consumers can be sold and resold upgraded versions of an iPhone, 00:04:52.359 --> 00:04:55.301 so also people can be sold more and more education. 00:04:56.807 --> 00:04:58.673 College is the new high school, 00:04:58.697 --> 00:05:00.021 we already say that. 00:05:01.408 --> 00:05:02.807 But why stop there? 00:05:02.831 --> 00:05:06.308 People can be upsold on certifications and recertifications, 00:05:06.332 --> 00:05:08.688 master's degrees, doctoral degrees. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:11.436 --> 00:05:15.149 Higher education is also marketed as a status object. 00:05:16.634 --> 00:05:17.785 Buy a degree, 00:05:17.809 --> 00:05:20.996 much like you do a Lexus of a Louis Vuitton bag, 00:05:21.020 --> 00:05:22.814 to distinguish yourself from others. 00:05:22.838 --> 00:05:25.289 So you can be the object of envy of others. 00:05:26.669 --> 00:05:28.400 Diplomas are a brand. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:29.034 --> 00:05:35.629 But these truths are often times hidden by a very noisy sales pitch. 00:05:36.535 --> 00:05:38.171 There is not a day that goes by 00:05:38.195 --> 00:05:43.232 without some policy guy on television telling us, 00:05:43.256 --> 00:05:45.280 "A college degree is absolutely essential 00:05:45.304 --> 00:05:48.021 to get on that up escalator to a middle-class life." 00:05:48.890 --> 00:05:52.568 And the usual evidence offered is the college premium: 00:05:52.592 --> 00:05:57.839 a college grad who makes on average 56 percent more than a high school grad. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:58.425 --> 00:06:00.473 Let's look at that number more carefully, 00:06:00.497 --> 00:06:01.823 because on the face of it, 00:06:01.847 --> 00:06:05.191 it seems to belie the stories we all hear 00:06:05.215 --> 00:06:09.603 about college grads working as baristas and cashiers. 00:06:10.545 --> 00:06:15.696 Of 100 people who enroll in any form of post-secondary education, 00:06:15.720 --> 00:06:18.768 45 do not complete it in a timely fashion, 00:06:18.792 --> 00:06:21.858 for a number of reasons, including financial. 00:06:22.275 --> 00:06:24.188 Of the 55 that do graduate, 00:06:24.212 --> 00:06:26.260 two will remain unemployed, 00:06:26.284 --> 00:06:29.014 and another 18 are underemployed. 00:06:30.058 --> 00:06:33.733 So, college grads earn more than high school grads, 00:06:33.757 --> 00:06:36.750 but does it pay for the exorbitant tuition 00:06:36.774 --> 00:06:39.165 and the lost wages while at college? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:39.661 --> 00:06:42.257 Now even economists admit 00:06:42.281 --> 00:06:47.511 going to college pays off for only those who complete it. 00:06:48.095 --> 00:06:52.127 But that's only because high school wages have been cut to the bone, 00:06:52.151 --> 00:06:53.591 for decades now. 00:06:55.369 --> 00:06:57.258 For decades, 00:06:57.282 --> 00:06:59.639 workers with a high school degree 00:06:59.663 --> 00:07:03.766 have been denied a fair share of what they have produced. 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:07.385 And had they received as they should have, 00:07:07.409 --> 00:07:11.362 then going to college would have been a bad investment for many. 00:07:11.386 --> 00:07:13.512 College premium? 00:07:13.941 --> 00:07:15.695 I think it's a high school discount. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:16.688 --> 00:07:21.092 Two out of three people who enroll are not going to find an adequate job. 00:07:21.756 --> 00:07:24.867 And the future, for them, doesn't look particularly promising -- 00:07:24.891 --> 00:07:26.613 in fact, it's downright bleak. 00:07:26.637 --> 00:07:29.041 And it is they who are going to suffer 00:07:30.541 --> 00:07:33.224 the most punishing forms of student debt. 00:07:34.002 --> 00:07:35.153 And it is they, 00:07:35.177 --> 00:07:36.558 curiously and sadly, 00:07:36.582 --> 00:07:40.391 who are marketed most loudly about this college premium thing. 00:07:41.986 --> 00:07:44.383 That's not just cynical marketing, 00:07:44.407 --> 00:07:45.557 that's cruel. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:47.277 --> 00:07:48.427 So what do we do? 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:54.888 What if students and parents treated higher education as a consumer product? 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:57.738 Everybody else seems to. 00:07:58.686 --> 00:08:00.948 Then, like any other consumer product, 00:08:00.972 --> 00:08:03.471 you would demand to know what you're paying for. 00:08:03.495 --> 00:08:04.710 When you buy medicines, 00:08:04.734 --> 00:08:06.649 you get a list of side effects. 00:08:06.673 --> 00:08:08.785 When you buy a higher educational product, 00:08:08.809 --> 00:08:10.443 you should have a warning label 00:08:10.467 --> 00:08:12.659 that allows consumers to choose, 00:08:12.683 --> 00:08:14.062 make informed choices. 00:08:14.838 --> 00:08:16.030 When you buy a car, 00:08:16.054 --> 00:08:18.665 it tells you how many miles per gallon to expect. 00:08:19.188 --> 00:08:20.634 Who knows what to expect 00:08:20.658 --> 00:08:24.372 from a degree say, in Canadian Studies. 00:08:24.806 --> 00:08:26.465 There is such a thing, by the way. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:28.989 --> 00:08:31.044 What if there was an app for that? 00:08:34.402 --> 00:08:39.270 One that linked up the cost of a major to the expected income. 00:08:40.208 --> 00:08:42.574 Let's call it Income-Based Tuition or IBT. 00:08:42.598 --> 00:08:44.120 One of you make this. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:44.144 --> 00:08:45.683 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:45.707 --> 00:08:47.439 Discover your reality. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:47.463 --> 00:08:49.772 (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:49.796 --> 00:08:51.225 There are three advantages, 00:08:51.249 --> 00:08:53.930 three benefits to Income-Based Tuition. 00:08:55.232 --> 00:08:57.121 Any user can figure out 00:08:57.145 --> 00:09:00.349 how much money he or she will make from a given college and major. 00:09:01.105 --> 00:09:02.447 Such informed users 00:09:02.471 --> 00:09:06.416 are unlikely to fall victim to the huckster's ploy, 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:07.850 to the sales pitch. 00:09:07.874 --> 00:09:09.580 But also to choose wisely. 00:09:09.604 --> 00:09:12.006 Why would anybody pay more for college 00:09:12.030 --> 00:09:15.056 than let's say, 15 percent of the additional income they earn? NOTE Paragraph 00:09:17.040 --> 00:09:19.756 There's a second benefit to Income-Based Tuition. 00:09:19.780 --> 00:09:22.740 By tying the cost to the income, 00:09:22.764 --> 00:09:27.185 college administrators would be forced to manage costs better, 00:09:27.209 --> 00:09:29.549 to find innovative ways to do so. 00:09:29.573 --> 00:09:30.727 For instance, 00:09:30.751 --> 00:09:34.811 all of you students here pay roughly the same tuition for every major. 00:09:35.478 --> 00:09:39.525 That is manifestly unfair, and should change. 00:09:40.295 --> 00:09:44.216 An engineering student uses more resources 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.649 and facilities and labs and faculty 00:09:46.673 --> 00:09:48.351 than a philosophy student. 00:09:49.581 --> 00:09:51.685 But the philosophy student, as a consequence, 00:09:51.709 --> 00:09:53.899 is subsidizing the engineering student. 00:09:54.300 --> 00:09:56.991 Who then, by the way, goes on and earns more money. 00:09:57.015 --> 00:10:00.722 Why should two people buy the same product, 00:10:00.746 --> 00:10:01.921 pay the same, 00:10:01.945 --> 00:10:04.722 but one person receive half or a third of the service. 00:10:06.448 --> 00:10:10.519 In fact, college grads, some majors, 00:10:10.543 --> 00:10:14.163 pay 25 percent of their income servicing their student debt, 00:10:14.187 --> 00:10:15.860 while others pay five percent. 00:10:17.510 --> 00:10:22.026 That kind if inequity would end when majors are priced more correctly. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:23.042 --> 00:10:25.201 Now of course, all this data -- 00:10:25.225 --> 00:10:27.299 and one of you is going to do this, right? 00:10:27.323 --> 00:10:29.170 All this data has to be well designed, 00:10:29.194 --> 00:10:31.292 maybe audited by public accounting firms 00:10:31.316 --> 00:10:33.268 to avoid statistical lies. 00:10:33.292 --> 00:10:35.137 We know about statistics, right? NOTE Paragraph 00:10:36.766 --> 00:10:37.989 But be that as it may, 00:10:38.013 --> 00:10:42.394 the third and biggest benefit of Income-Based Tuition, 00:10:42.418 --> 00:10:47.847 is it would free Americans from the fear and the fact of financial ruin 00:10:47.871 --> 00:10:50.037 because they bought a defective product. NOTE Paragraph 00:10:50.813 --> 00:10:53.132 Perhaps, in time, 00:10:53.156 --> 00:10:55.404 young and old Americans may rediscover, 00:10:55.428 --> 00:10:57.625 as the gentleman said earlier, 00:10:57.649 --> 00:10:59.688 their curiosity, their love of learning -- 00:10:59.712 --> 00:11:01.149 begin to study what they love, 00:11:01.173 --> 00:11:02.352 love what they study, 00:11:02.376 --> 00:11:03.759 follow their passion ... 00:11:04.577 --> 00:11:07.046 getting stimulated by their intelligence, 00:11:07.070 --> 00:11:10.507 follow paths of inquiry that they really want to. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:10.848 --> 00:11:15.298 After all, it was Eric and Kevin, 00:11:15.322 --> 00:11:16.490 two years ago, 00:11:17.498 --> 00:11:20.930 just exactly these kinds of young men, 00:11:20.954 --> 00:11:22.976 who prompted me and worked with me, 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:24.561 and still do, 00:11:24.585 --> 00:11:28.271 in the study of indebted students in America. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:29.272 --> 00:11:30.803 Thank you for your attention. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:30.827 --> 00:11:35.391 (Applause)