[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.79,0:00:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mercy – Compassion Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.17,0:00:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today our satsang topic is Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.13,0:00:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mercy (daya) and compassion (karuna) Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.20,0:00:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally speaking everyone thinks Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.72,0:00:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that daya and karuna are the same thing Dialogue: 0,0:00:32.76,0:00:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There doesn’t seem like there is any difference between the two Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.59,0:00:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daya and karuna Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.19,0:00:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in spirituality (adhyatmik) there is a vast difference Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.72,0:00:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[just like the difference between] the sky and the earth Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.68,0:00:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is that much of a difference [between the two] Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.39,0:00:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The amount of difference there exists Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.35,0:00:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between knowledge (gnan) and ignorance (agnan) Dialogue: 0,0:00:50.62,0:00:53.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is the amount of difference between daya and karuna Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.99,0:00:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daya occurs where there is ignorance [of the Self] Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.80,0:00:59.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after gnan there is karuna Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.17,0:01:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daya is considered an attribute of the Ego (ahamkar) Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.92,0:01:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And karuna begins after the ahamkar leaves Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.10,0:01:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now people, generally find this astonishing Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.79,0:01:13.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that daya is being considered egotistical Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.80,0:01:14.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the state of ignorance (agnan), Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.93,0:01:18.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daya is considered to be the highest of virtues (sadguna) Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.67,0:01:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that is correct as well Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.84,0:01:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daya is said to be the root of religion (dharma) Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.46,0:01:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is considered to be the root of religion (dharma) Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.63,0:01:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is not considered to be the root of spiritualism (adhyatma) Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.49,0:01:35.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is not considered to be the root to the path of moksha Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.39,0:01:37.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is not considered to be the root to attaining the Soul Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.55,0:01:40.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It does help one start towards [the path of] religion Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.59,0:01:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then by following this, after a long period of time Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.19,0:01:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once the Self is attained Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.18,0:01:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after that karuna [starts to flow]….. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.99,0:01:49.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, the Self is not attainable through daya alone Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.51,0:01:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[the route] to attain the Self is a whole different story Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.53,0:01:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of the infinite virtues, this [daya] is just one virtue Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.70,0:01:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is [beneficial]… Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.08,0:02:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for one to progress in religion, Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.37,0:02:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for one to become spiritually ready, Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.35,0:02:04.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of all these right worldly interactions Dialogue: 0,0:02:04.96,0:02:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daya actually falls under this category of right worldly interactions Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.08,0:02:13.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot more [virtues] are needed along with that Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.87,0:02:17.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but daya is one of the big things [needed] Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.91,0:02:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.02,0:02:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gnanis and Tirthankars don’t have daya Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.99,0:02:24.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have karuna Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.99,0:02:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They do not have an iota of daya Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.23,0:02:38.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why? Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.11,0:02:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they don’t have ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.39,0:02:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,daya will only last if it is on the basement of ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.65,0:02:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if there is no ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.35,0:02:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then there is no daya there Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.73,0:02:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then one cannot maintain daya Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.74,0:02:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then in that case, there will only be karuna Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.92,0:02:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where is the difference between the two [daya and karuna]? Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.40,0:03:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daya is considered to be an attribute with duality (dwandva guna) Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.52,0:03:08.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An attribute with duality Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.56,0:03:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and karuna does not have duality within it Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.87,0:03:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is an attribute with duality (dwandva guna)? Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.31,0:03:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there is mercy (daya), Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.42,0:03:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mercilessness (nirdayata) also exists in those cases Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.48,0:03:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On one side there is mercy and Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.94,0:03:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the other side there is mercilessness Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.70,0:03:25.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both are always together Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.55,0:03:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dwandva means both [exist] together Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.39,0:03:30.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like sukh (happiness) and dukh (suffering) Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.43,0:03:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are called dwandva guna Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.91,0:03:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good and bad are dwandva guna Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.10,0:03:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When two attributes exist together Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.15,0:03:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are called dwandva guna Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.73,0:03:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Duality Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.79,0:03:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘dwandva’ means duality Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.99,0:03:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where there is daya there is mercilessness for sure Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.54,0:03:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is what is said Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.12,0:03:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How? Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.34,0:03:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As an example Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.76,0:04:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wherever daya exists Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.88,0:04:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is ahamkar there Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.12,0:04:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One is not able to see [bear] the suffering (dukh) of others Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.49,0:04:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One goes into suffering due to the suffering of others Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.39,0:04:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That suffering that one feels, Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.19,0:04:25.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dukh one feels due to the suffering of others Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.27,0:04:28.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is the part that is feeling this dukh? Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.46,0:04:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is the ego (ahamkar) Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.56,0:04:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,However, the tirthankars don’t have ahamkar within Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.20,0:04:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don’t become pained due to others’ suffering Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.78,0:04:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A person with daya will always be helping others Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.10,0:04:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why does he do this? Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.79,0:04:54.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because he can’t see the suffering of others Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.60,0:04:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he can’t bear it Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.96,0:04:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The suffering of others Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.50,0:05:01.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes him feel such unbearable suffering… Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.44,0:05:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such immense pain Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.15,0:05:04.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to stop his own pain Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.59,0:05:05.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will verily help the other person Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.77,0:05:07.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he has to help them Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.49,0:05:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he can’t stay without getting involved Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.49,0:05:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these actions are taking place at a very subtle level Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.71,0:05:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these processes of the mind (mun), intellect (budhi), chit and ego Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.91,0:05:17.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are taking place at the subtle level Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.60,0:05:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whereas the Gnanis, the Atma Gnanis, the Tirthankars Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.46,0:05:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don’t feel daya Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.66,0:05:29.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don’t even feel dukh either Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.30,0:05:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They feel karuna Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.70,0:05:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When a mouse passes by… Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.71,0:05:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or when a small mouse passes by Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.10,0:05:38.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a cat is pouncing to kill the mouse Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.56,0:05:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then all these people who are full of daya Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.71,0:05:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will begin to jump up and down right there and then Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.03,0:05:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they get angry at the cat Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.96,0:05:53.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To save the rat, they hit the cat Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.71,0:05:56.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They throw the kitchen tongs [at the cat] Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.07,0:06:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they break the cats' leg Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.06,0:06:03.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from within they feel happy that they saved the mouse Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.66,0:06:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they taste the sweet juice of doership (garvaras) Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.40,0:06:09.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that “I saved it [the mouse]” Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.43,0:06:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I saved the mouse” Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.94,0:06:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they feel contempt for the cat Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.53,0:06:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for both cases; for one they felt daya Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.99,0:06:19.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for the cat, they felt mercilessness Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.91,0:06:21.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so it become duality (dwandva) Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.100,0:06:24.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thus if daya exists then somewhere in some corner Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.27,0:06:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there verily will lie mercilessness Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.36,0:06:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will be there… Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.84,0:06:31.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so for all those who are full of daya, Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.48,0:06:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is always like this Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.71,0:06:35.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They try to save one, Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.90,0:06:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as a result Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.50,0:06:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they do [the opposite] with the other one Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.87,0:06:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you understand this? Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.10,0:06:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is true for people with daya Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.08,0:06:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whilst the Gnani’s don’t have daya Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.69,0:06:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dada said, Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.24,0:06:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“We don’t have a cent of daya” Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.54,0:06:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“We don’t feel suffering if others are suffering” Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.57,0:07:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“We have compassion (karuna)” Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.98,0:07:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Karuna means that they feel the same for both; Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.74,0:07:04.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is karuna for the mouse Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.22,0:07:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there is also karuna for the cat Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.70,0:07:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no contempt Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.84,0:07:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nor does the thought to kill them arise Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.38,0:07:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are no feelings of any kind for either Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.89,0:07:18.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For both [animals] the inner intent is that of karuna Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.36,0:07:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now how can one have karuna for the mouse? Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.76,0:07:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now how can one also have karuna for the cat? Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.64,0:07:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What must be the internal state of the Gnani? Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.00,0:07:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What [understanding] is set within, Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.36,0:07:30.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to actually have the same inner intent for both [animals]? Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.56,0:07:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can see in their gnan Dialogue: 0,0:07:32.70,0:07:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What [do they see]? Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.72,0:07:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They [Gnanis] can see for both [animals] Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.78,0:07:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can see it for the cat Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.77,0:07:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they can see it for the mouse as well Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.62,0:07:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They see Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.60,0:07:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘that really the cat is not charging any new karmas Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.50,0:07:46.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but right now Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.19,0:07:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the discharge to kill [the mouse] that has come Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.90,0:07:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[she will have to suffer] another discharge for this discharge Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.66,0:07:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this karmic account (hisaab) won’t leave her, Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.94,0:07:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during her discharge of the discharge’ Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.20,0:08:00.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they [Gnanis] will have karuna for her Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.50,0:08:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘That what is this poor thing doing Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.45,0:08:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she has no idea what the result of this [action] will be’ Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.30,0:08:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and on the other side Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.24,0:08:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they [Gnanis] have karuna for the mouse Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.90,0:08:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘That this poor thing, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.58,0:08:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has got this hisaab to suffer right now, Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.76,0:08:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,although as a result, Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.21,0:08:22.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he [the mouse] is progressing to a higher development Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.24,0:08:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he has this kind of a hisaab to die in this way’ Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.88,0:08:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in this manner they feel karuna [for the two] Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.62,0:08:36.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, mercy and mercilessness doesn’t arise Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.45,0:08:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is the same for both Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.71,0:08:42.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Gnani’s do not do any interference - reactions to interferences Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.71,0:08:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tirthankars don’t have any interfere or reactions to interferences Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.67,0:08:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.05,0:08:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tirthankars are called idols of compassion, Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.39,0:08:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they are called oceans of compassion Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.61,0:09:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They constantly have karuna Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.17,0:09:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have karuna towards all the living beings of this world Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.97,0:09:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Besides that, they have nothing else, Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.70,0:09:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don’t want anything from anybody Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.00,0:09:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don’t have ahamkar there Dialogue: 0,0:09:21.19,0:09:22.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don’t have any inner intent to take or give Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.88,0:09:25.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don’t have any inner intent to save or to kill Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.59,0:09:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To want to kill is verily ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.100,0:09:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to want to save is also ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.31,0:09:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So ahamkar verily remains Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.07,0:09:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas in their [Gnanis/Tirthankars] case, Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.60,0:09:38.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there is no ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.27,0:09:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you try to explain this, still one doesn’t understand Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.55,0:09:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common people have a lot of inner intent to save, Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.91,0:09:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that [inner intent] should be there Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.74,0:09:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are in the worldly life Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.65,0:09:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are with ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.77,0:09:48.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore this is a positive ahamkar Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.64,0:09:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we are not saying that it [the ahamkar] is wrong Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.80,0:09:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but for those who want to attain the Self and go to Moksha Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.41,0:09:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will have to become free of ahamkar, Dialogue: 0,0:09:57.15,0:09:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the direction they have chosen is different Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.31,0:10:01.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their destination is different Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.34,0:10:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this discussion is for them Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.91,0:10:06.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is not for the common person Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.61,0:10:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the common people, Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.77,0:10:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing this and having daya is correct for them Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.03,0:10:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if that wasn’t there, Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.00,0:10:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they would walk in the wrong direction Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.24,0:10:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the Self has not been attained Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.34,0:10:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the ahamkar hasn’t left Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.94,0:10:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if it [ahamkar] doesn’t fall into saving then Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.34,0:10:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it [ahamkar] will fall into hurting Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.39,0:10:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one or the other will be there Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.42,0:10:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in duality Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.25,0:10:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you understand? Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.00,0:10:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a very minute point Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.88,0:10:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the demarcation is extremely minute Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.47,0:10:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is an extremely minute demarcation Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.76,0:10:38.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between daya and karuna Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.57,0:10:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even in your business Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.79,0:10:47.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this verily happens… Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.14,0:10:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The opposite party [antagonist] Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.21,0:10:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And our party versus Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.98,0:10:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the opposite party Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.14,0:10:55.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It happens in religion Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.05,0:10:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also happens in business Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.90,0:11:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘We’ are in none of this Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.66,0:11:04.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone is seen in the form of the Self Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.05,0:11:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are seen as if they were my own Self Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.67,0:11:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If this vision exists Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.59,0:11:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If this vision of the Self exists Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.97,0:11:13.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only then will karuna begin to flow Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.90,0:11:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if the slightest vision of the non-Self complex exists Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.72,0:11:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then karuna will not flow there Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.35,0:11:20.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a result mercy will come into existence Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.58,0:11:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and mercilessness will occur inevitably over there Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.98,0:11:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Experience this for yourself Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.01,0:11:32.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then it will verily affect you inside Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.31,0:11:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same [event] will be visible within Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.81,0:11:40.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn’t go out of one’s chit Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.34,0:11:44.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The photo gets snapped there Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.99,0:11:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uneasiness occurs over there Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.11,0:11:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can’t bear the other person’s dukh Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.07,0:11:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you feel inner suffering inside Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.07,0:12:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what is to be seen in todays’ samayik Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.19,0:12:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That Dialogue: 0,0:12:00.90,0:12:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How much of it is daya for us? Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.57,0:12:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,observe that Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.44,0:12:05.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the prakruti [mind-body complex] this part is daya Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.98,0:12:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have to come out of that Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.04,0:12:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the ahamkar that is behind it Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.70,0:12:13.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,observe that ahamkar - wherever the daya has arisen Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.01,0:12:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting out of ahamkar, we have to move towards karuna Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.00,0:12:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jai Sat Chit Anand