WEBVTT 00:00:00.397 --> 00:00:02.828 When we talk about corruption, 00:00:02.852 --> 00:00:06.298 there are typical types of individuals that spring to mind. 00:00:06.322 --> 00:00:08.626 There's the former Soviet megalomaniacs. 00:00:08.650 --> 00:00:11.815 Saparmurat Niyazov, he was one of them. 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:13.803 Until his death in 2006, 00:00:13.827 --> 00:00:17.109 he was the all-powerful leader of Turkmenistan, 00:00:17.133 --> 00:00:20.874 a Central Asian country rich in natural gas. 00:00:20.898 --> 00:00:24.824 Now, he really loved to issue presidential decrees. 00:00:24.848 --> 00:00:27.069 And one renamed the months of the year 00:00:27.093 --> 00:00:30.219 including after himself and his mother. 00:00:30.243 --> 00:00:32.253 He spent millions of dollars 00:00:32.277 --> 00:00:35.073 creating a bizarre personality cult, 00:00:35.097 --> 00:00:37.042 and his crowning glory was the building 00:00:37.066 --> 00:00:41.082 of a 40-foot-high gold-plated statue of himself 00:00:41.106 --> 00:00:44.146 which stood proudly in the capital's central square 00:00:44.170 --> 00:00:47.138 and rotated to follow the sun. 00:00:47.162 --> 00:00:49.911 He was a slightly unusual guy. 00:00:49.935 --> 00:00:51.768 And then there's that cliché, 00:00:51.792 --> 00:00:55.167 the African dictator or minister or official. 00:00:55.191 --> 00:00:58.278 There's Teodorín Obiang. 00:00:58.302 --> 00:01:02.509 So his daddy is president for life of Equatorial Guinea, 00:01:02.533 --> 00:01:05.633 a West African nation that has exported 00:01:05.657 --> 00:01:09.114 billions of dollars of oil since the 1990s 00:01:09.138 --> 00:01:13.158 and yet has a truly appalling human rights record. 00:01:13.182 --> 00:01:15.052 The vast majority of its people 00:01:15.076 --> 00:01:18.007 are living in really miserable poverty 00:01:18.031 --> 00:01:20.127 despite an income per capita that's on a par 00:01:20.151 --> 00:01:22.625 with that of Portugal. 00:01:22.649 --> 00:01:25.330 So Obiang junior, well, he buys himself 00:01:25.354 --> 00:01:29.762 a $30 million mansion in Malibu, California. 00:01:29.786 --> 00:01:30.863 I've been up to its front gates. 00:01:30.887 --> 00:01:33.958 I can tell you it's a magnificent spread. 00:01:33.982 --> 00:01:37.677 He bought an €18 million art collection 00:01:37.701 --> 00:01:41.816 that used to belong to fashion designer Yves Saint Laurent, 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:43.364 a stack of fabulous sports cars, 00:01:43.388 --> 00:01:45.919 some costing a million dollars apiece -- 00:01:45.943 --> 00:01:48.235 oh, and a Gulfstream jet, too. 00:01:48.259 --> 00:01:49.596 Now get this: 00:01:49.620 --> 00:01:53.737 Until recently, he was earning an official monthly salary 00:01:53.761 --> 00:01:57.891 of less than 7,000 dollars. 00:01:57.915 --> 00:01:59.944 And there's Dan Etete. 00:01:59.968 --> 00:02:02.588 Well, he was the former oil minister of Nigeria 00:02:02.612 --> 00:02:04.562 under President Abacha, 00:02:04.586 --> 00:02:08.064 and it just so happens he's a convicted money launderer too. 00:02:08.088 --> 00:02:10.306 We've spent a great deal of time 00:02:10.330 --> 00:02:12.707 investigating a $1 billion -- 00:02:12.731 --> 00:02:14.470 that's right, a $1 billion — 00:02:14.494 --> 00:02:17.131 oil deal that he was involved with, 00:02:17.155 --> 00:02:19.083 and what we found was pretty shocking, 00:02:19.107 --> 00:02:21.849 but more about that later. 00:02:21.873 --> 00:02:25.366 So it's easy to think that corruption happens 00:02:25.390 --> 00:02:27.226 somewhere over there, 00:02:27.250 --> 00:02:29.682 carried out by a bunch of greedy despots 00:02:29.706 --> 00:02:31.706 and individuals up to no good in countries 00:02:31.730 --> 00:02:34.714 that we, personally, may know very little about 00:02:34.738 --> 00:02:36.403 and feel really unconnected to 00:02:36.427 --> 00:02:39.891 and unaffected by what might be going on. 00:02:39.915 --> 00:02:43.134 But does it just happen over there? 00:02:43.158 --> 00:02:46.413 Well, at 22, I was very lucky. 00:02:46.437 --> 00:02:49.194 My first job out of university 00:02:49.218 --> 00:02:53.178 was investigating the illegal trade in African ivory. 00:02:53.202 --> 00:02:57.407 And that's how my relationship with corruption really began. 00:02:57.431 --> 00:03:00.415 In 1993, with two friends who were colleagues, 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.218 Simon Taylor and Patrick Alley, 00:03:03.242 --> 00:03:06.819 we set up an organization called Global Witness. 00:03:06.843 --> 00:03:09.569 Our first campaign was investigating the role 00:03:09.593 --> 00:03:13.875 of illegal logging in funding the war in Cambodia. 00:03:13.899 --> 00:03:16.918 So a few years later, and it's now 1997, 00:03:16.942 --> 00:03:21.679 and I'm in Angola undercover investigating blood diamonds. 00:03:21.703 --> 00:03:23.406 Perhaps you saw the film, 00:03:23.430 --> 00:03:25.097 the Hollywood film "Blood Diamond," 00:03:25.121 --> 00:03:26.674 the one with Leonardo DiCaprio. 00:03:26.698 --> 00:03:30.129 Well, some of that sprang from our work. 00:03:30.153 --> 00:03:32.845 Luanda, it was full of land mine victims 00:03:32.869 --> 00:03:35.025 who were struggling to survive on the streets 00:03:35.049 --> 00:03:38.113 and war orphans living in sewers under the streets, 00:03:38.137 --> 00:03:40.202 and a tiny, very wealthy elite 00:03:40.226 --> 00:03:43.421 who gossiped about shopping trips to Brazil and Portugal. 00:03:43.445 --> 00:03:46.182 And it was a slightly crazy place. 00:03:46.206 --> 00:03:49.866 So I'm sitting in a hot and very stuffy hotel room 00:03:49.890 --> 00:03:52.926 feeling just totally overwhelmed. 00:03:52.950 --> 00:03:55.282 But it wasn't about blood diamonds. 00:03:55.306 --> 00:03:58.184 Because I'd been speaking to lots of people there 00:03:58.208 --> 00:04:00.552 who, well, they talked about a different problem: 00:04:00.576 --> 00:04:03.973 that of a massive web of corruption on a global scale 00:04:03.997 --> 00:04:07.307 and millions of oil dollars going missing. 00:04:07.331 --> 00:04:09.768 And for what was then a very small organization 00:04:09.792 --> 00:04:11.916 of just a few people, 00:04:11.940 --> 00:04:14.658 trying to even begin to think how we might tackle that 00:04:14.682 --> 00:04:17.129 was an enormous challenge. 00:04:17.153 --> 00:04:18.677 And in the years that I've been, 00:04:18.701 --> 00:04:21.232 and we've all been campaigning and investigating, 00:04:21.255 --> 00:04:23.495 I've repeatedly seen that what makes corruption 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.763 on a global, massive scale possible, 00:04:25.787 --> 00:04:28.897 well it isn't just greed or the misuse of power 00:04:28.921 --> 00:04:31.336 or that nebulous phrase "weak governance." 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:33.373 I mean, yes, it's all of those, 00:04:33.397 --> 00:04:36.325 but corruption, it's made possible by the actions 00:04:36.349 --> 00:04:39.946 of global facilitators. 00:04:39.970 --> 00:04:43.136 So let's go back to some of those people I talked about earlier. 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:44.653 Now, they're all people we've investigated, 00:04:44.677 --> 00:04:47.439 and they're all people who couldn't do what they do alone. 00:04:47.463 --> 00:04:49.879 Take Obiang junior. Well, he didn't end up 00:04:49.903 --> 00:04:53.718 with high-end art and luxury houses without help. 00:04:53.742 --> 00:04:55.893 He did business with global banks. 00:04:55.917 --> 00:04:59.732 A bank in Paris held accounts of companies controlled by him, 00:04:59.756 --> 00:05:02.130 one of which was used to buy the art, 00:05:02.154 --> 00:05:04.771 and American banks, well, they funneled 00:05:04.795 --> 00:05:07.707 73 million dollars into the States, 00:05:07.731 --> 00:05:11.806 some of which was used to buy that California mansion. 00:05:11.830 --> 00:05:14.714 And he didn't do all of this in his own name either. 00:05:14.738 --> 00:05:16.468 He used shell companies. 00:05:16.492 --> 00:05:18.802 He used one to buy the property, and another, 00:05:18.826 --> 00:05:20.888 which was in somebody else's name, 00:05:20.912 --> 00:05:24.886 to pay the huge bills it cost to run the place. 00:05:24.910 --> 00:05:27.114 And then there's Dan Etete. 00:05:27.138 --> 00:05:29.196 Well, when he was oil minister, 00:05:29.220 --> 00:05:34.326 he awarded an oil block now worth over a billion dollars 00:05:34.350 --> 00:05:37.160 to a company that, guess what, yeah, 00:05:37.184 --> 00:05:39.543 he was the hidden owner of. 00:05:39.567 --> 00:05:42.945 Now, it was then much later traded on 00:05:42.969 --> 00:05:45.541 with the kind assistance of the Nigerian government -- 00:05:45.565 --> 00:05:47.623 now I have to be careful what I say here — 00:05:47.647 --> 00:05:51.772 to subsidiaries of Shell and the Italian Eni, 00:05:51.796 --> 00:05:54.426 two of the biggest oil companies around. 00:05:54.450 --> 00:05:56.879 So the reality is, is that the engine of corruption, 00:05:56.903 --> 00:05:59.322 well, it exists far beyond the shores of countries 00:05:59.346 --> 00:06:02.521 like Equatorial Guinea or Nigeria or Turkmenistan. 00:06:02.545 --> 00:06:04.845 This engine, well, it's driven 00:06:04.869 --> 00:06:07.211 by our international banking system, 00:06:07.235 --> 00:06:09.754 by the problem of anonymous shell companies, 00:06:09.778 --> 00:06:12.136 and by the secrecy that we have afforded 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.105 big oil, gas and mining operations, 00:06:15.129 --> 00:06:18.838 and, most of all, by the failure of our politicians 00:06:18.862 --> 00:06:20.913 to back up their rhetoric and do something 00:06:20.937 --> 00:06:25.905 really meaningful and systemic to tackle this stuff. 00:06:25.929 --> 00:06:27.916 Now let's take the banks first. 00:06:27.940 --> 00:06:30.250 Well, it's not going to come as any surprise 00:06:30.274 --> 00:06:34.562 for me to tell you that banks accept dirty money, 00:06:34.586 --> 00:06:39.106 but they prioritize their profits in other destructive ways too. 00:06:39.130 --> 00:06:42.213 For example, in Sarawak, Malaysia. 00:06:42.237 --> 00:06:45.852 Now this region, it has just five percent 00:06:45.876 --> 00:06:51.268 of its forests left intact. Five percent. 00:06:51.292 --> 00:06:52.603 So how did that happen? 00:06:52.627 --> 00:06:55.659 Well, because an elite and its facilitators 00:06:55.683 --> 00:06:57.833 have been making millions of dollars 00:06:57.857 --> 00:07:01.364 from supporting logging on an industrial scale 00:07:01.388 --> 00:07:03.770 for many years. 00:07:03.794 --> 00:07:06.024 So we sent an undercover investigator in 00:07:06.048 --> 00:07:09.614 to secretly film meetings with members of the ruling elite, 00:07:09.638 --> 00:07:12.945 and the resulting footage, well, it made some people very angry, 00:07:12.969 --> 00:07:15.195 and you can see that on YouTube, 00:07:15.219 --> 00:07:17.172 but it proved what we had long suspected, 00:07:17.196 --> 00:07:20.669 because it showed how the state's chief minister, 00:07:20.693 --> 00:07:22.579 despite his later denials, 00:07:22.603 --> 00:07:25.978 used his control over land and forest licenses 00:07:26.002 --> 00:07:29.009 to enrich himself and his family. 00:07:29.033 --> 00:07:33.608 And HSBC, well, we know that HSBC bankrolled 00:07:33.632 --> 00:07:35.617 the region's largest logging companies 00:07:35.641 --> 00:07:38.022 that were responsible for some of that destruction 00:07:38.046 --> 00:07:40.609 in Sarawak and elsewhere. 00:07:40.633 --> 00:07:44.317 The bank violated its own sustainability policies in the process, 00:07:44.341 --> 00:07:48.137 but it earned around 130 million dollars. 00:07:48.161 --> 00:07:50.473 Now shortly after our exposé, 00:07:50.497 --> 00:07:53.075 very shortly after our exposé earlier this year, 00:07:53.099 --> 00:07:56.079 the bank announced a policy review on this. 00:07:56.103 --> 00:07:58.665 And is this progress? Maybe, 00:07:58.689 --> 00:08:01.168 but we're going to be keeping a very close eye 00:08:01.192 --> 00:08:03.505 on that case. 00:08:03.529 --> 00:08:06.918 And then there's the problem of anonymous shell companies. 00:08:06.942 --> 00:08:09.747 Well, we've all heard about what they are, I think, 00:08:09.771 --> 00:08:12.243 and we all know they're used quite a bit 00:08:12.267 --> 00:08:14.829 by people and companies who are trying to avoid 00:08:14.853 --> 00:08:17.876 paying their proper dues to society, 00:08:17.900 --> 00:08:19.929 also known as taxes. 00:08:19.953 --> 00:08:22.838 But what doesn't usually come to light 00:08:22.862 --> 00:08:27.388 is how shell companies are used to steal 00:08:27.412 --> 00:08:30.760 huge sums of money, transformational sums of money, 00:08:30.784 --> 00:08:32.806 from poor countries. 00:08:32.830 --> 00:08:36.226 In virtually every case of corruption that we've investigated, 00:08:36.250 --> 00:08:38.438 shell companies have appeared, 00:08:38.462 --> 00:08:40.798 and sometimes it's been impossible to find out 00:08:40.822 --> 00:08:44.310 who is really involved in the deal. 00:08:44.334 --> 00:08:46.638 A recent study by the World Bank 00:08:46.662 --> 00:08:49.588 looked at 200 cases of corruption. 00:08:49.612 --> 00:08:52.678 It found that over 70 percent of those cases 00:08:52.702 --> 00:08:55.632 had used anonymous shell companies, 00:08:55.656 --> 00:08:59.014 totaling almost 56 billion dollars. 00:08:59.038 --> 00:09:01.276 Now many of these companies were in America 00:09:01.300 --> 00:09:02.586 or the United Kingdom, 00:09:02.610 --> 00:09:04.987 its overseas territories and Crown dependencies, 00:09:05.011 --> 00:09:07.241 and so it's not just an offshore problem, 00:09:07.265 --> 00:09:09.533 it's an on-shore one too. 00:09:09.557 --> 00:09:11.672 You see, shell companies, they're central 00:09:11.696 --> 00:09:14.926 to the secret deals which may benefit wealthy elites 00:09:14.950 --> 00:09:17.950 rather than ordinary citizens. 00:09:17.974 --> 00:09:21.196 One striking recent case that we've investigated 00:09:21.220 --> 00:09:24.172 is how the government in the Democratic Republic of Congo 00:09:24.196 --> 00:09:28.529 sold off a series of valuable, state-owned mining assets 00:09:28.553 --> 00:09:31.883 to shell companies in the British Virgin Islands. 00:09:31.907 --> 00:09:34.155 So we spoke to sources in country, 00:09:34.179 --> 00:09:37.191 trawled through company documents and other information 00:09:37.215 --> 00:09:41.246 trying to piece together a really true picture of the deal. 00:09:41.270 --> 00:09:44.071 And we were alarmed to find that these shell companies 00:09:44.095 --> 00:09:46.587 had quickly flipped many of the assets on 00:09:46.611 --> 00:09:50.808 for huge profits to major international mining companies 00:09:50.832 --> 00:09:53.171 listed in London. 00:09:53.195 --> 00:09:56.427 Now, the Africa Progress Panel, led by Kofi Annan, 00:09:56.451 --> 00:09:59.315 they've calculated that Congo may have lost 00:09:59.339 --> 00:10:04.419 more than 1.3 billion dollars from these deals. 00:10:04.443 --> 00:10:06.672 That's almost twice 00:10:06.696 --> 00:10:12.312 the country's annual health and education budget combined. 00:10:12.336 --> 00:10:14.938 And will the people of Congo, will they ever get their money back? 00:10:14.962 --> 00:10:16.596 Well, the answer to that question, 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:18.490 and who was really involved and what really happened, 00:10:18.514 --> 00:10:20.993 well that's going to probably remain locked away 00:10:21.017 --> 00:10:24.142 in the secretive company registries of the British Virgin Islands 00:10:24.166 --> 00:10:28.976 and elsewhere unless we all do something about it. 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.963 And how about the oil, gas and mining companies? 00:10:31.987 --> 00:10:34.677 Okay, maybe it's a bit of a cliché to talk about them. 00:10:34.701 --> 00:10:36.797 Corruption in that sector, no surprise. 00:10:36.821 --> 00:10:41.230 There's corruption everywhere, so why focus on that sector? 00:10:41.254 --> 00:10:43.430 Well, because there's a lot at stake. 00:10:43.454 --> 00:10:47.527 In 2011, natural resource exports 00:10:47.551 --> 00:10:51.039 outweighed aid flows by almost 19 to one 00:10:51.063 --> 00:10:55.462 in Africa, Asia and Latin America. Nineteen to one. 00:10:55.486 --> 00:10:59.099 Now that's a hell of a lot of schools and universities 00:10:59.123 --> 00:11:01.076 and hospitals and business startups, 00:11:01.100 --> 00:11:03.434 many of which haven't materialized and never will 00:11:03.458 --> 00:11:07.765 because some of that money has simply been stolen away. 00:11:07.789 --> 00:11:10.170 Now let's go back to the oil and mining companies, 00:11:10.194 --> 00:11:13.186 and let's go back to Dan Etete and that $1 billion deal. 00:11:13.210 --> 00:11:16.475 And now forgive me, I'm going to read the next bit 00:11:16.499 --> 00:11:18.772 because it's a very live issue, and our lawyers 00:11:18.796 --> 00:11:20.962 have been through this in some detail 00:11:20.986 --> 00:11:24.272 and they want me to get it right. 00:11:24.296 --> 00:11:28.445 Now, on the surface, the deal appeared straightforward. 00:11:28.469 --> 00:11:30.545 Subsidiaries of Shell and Eni 00:11:30.569 --> 00:11:33.519 paid the Nigerian government for the block. 00:11:33.543 --> 00:11:35.682 The Nigerian government transferred 00:11:35.706 --> 00:11:38.506 precisely the same amount, to the very dollar, 00:11:38.530 --> 00:11:43.121 to an account earmarked for a shell company 00:11:43.145 --> 00:11:45.247 whose hidden owner was Etete. 00:11:45.271 --> 00:11:48.636 Now, that's not bad going for a convicted money launderer. 00:11:48.660 --> 00:11:50.093 And here's the thing. 00:11:50.117 --> 00:11:51.970 After many months of digging around 00:11:51.994 --> 00:11:55.505 and reading through hundreds of pages of court documents, 00:11:55.529 --> 00:11:57.460 we found evidence that, in fact, 00:11:57.484 --> 00:12:00.889 Shell and Eni had known that the funds 00:12:00.913 --> 00:12:03.964 would be transferred to that shell company, 00:12:03.988 --> 00:12:07.671 and frankly, it's hard to believe they didn't know 00:12:07.695 --> 00:12:10.962 who they were really dealing with there. 00:12:10.986 --> 00:12:14.050 Now, it just shouldn't take these sorts of efforts 00:12:14.074 --> 00:12:16.579 to find out where the money in deals like this went. 00:12:16.603 --> 00:12:18.148 I mean, these are state assets. 00:12:18.172 --> 00:12:19.614 They're supposed to be used for the benefit 00:12:19.638 --> 00:12:21.347 of the people in the country. 00:12:21.371 --> 00:12:24.536 But in some countries, citizens and journalists 00:12:24.560 --> 00:12:26.560 who are trying to expose stories like this 00:12:26.584 --> 00:12:28.061 have been harassed and arrested 00:12:28.085 --> 00:12:32.516 and some have even risked their lives to do so. 00:12:32.540 --> 00:12:36.320 And finally, well, there are those who believe 00:12:36.344 --> 00:12:38.644 that corruption is unavoidable. 00:12:38.668 --> 00:12:40.793 It's just how some business is done. 00:12:40.817 --> 00:12:43.358 It's too complex and difficult to change. 00:12:43.382 --> 00:12:46.285 So in effect, what? We just accept it. 00:12:46.309 --> 00:12:48.678 But as a campaigner and investigator, 00:12:48.702 --> 00:12:49.729 I have a different view, 00:12:49.753 --> 00:12:51.899 because I've seen what can happen 00:12:51.923 --> 00:12:54.453 when an idea gains momentum. 00:12:54.477 --> 00:12:57.197 In the oil and mining sector, for example, 00:12:57.221 --> 00:12:58.460 there is now the beginning 00:12:58.484 --> 00:13:01.709 of a truly worldwide transparency standard 00:13:01.733 --> 00:13:04.729 that could tackle some of these problems. 00:13:04.753 --> 00:13:07.151 In 1999, when Global Witness called 00:13:07.175 --> 00:13:10.490 for oil companies to make payments on deals transparent, 00:13:10.514 --> 00:13:14.279 well, some people laughed at the extreme naiveté 00:13:14.303 --> 00:13:16.382 of that small idea. 00:13:16.406 --> 00:13:19.952 But literally hundreds of civil society groups 00:13:19.976 --> 00:13:21.830 from around the world came together 00:13:21.854 --> 00:13:23.439 to fight for transparency, 00:13:23.463 --> 00:13:27.420 and now it's fast becoming the norm and the law. 00:13:27.444 --> 00:13:29.392 Two thirds of the value 00:13:29.416 --> 00:13:31.712 of the world's oil and mining companies 00:13:31.736 --> 00:13:35.483 are now covered by transparency laws. Two thirds. 00:13:35.507 --> 00:13:36.956 So this is change happening. 00:13:36.980 --> 00:13:38.846 This is progress. 00:13:38.870 --> 00:13:41.969 But we're not there yet, by far. 00:13:41.993 --> 00:13:44.215 Because it really isn't about corruption 00:13:44.239 --> 00:13:46.330 somewhere over there, is it? 00:13:46.354 --> 00:13:48.535 In a globalized world, corruption 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:50.798 is a truly globalized business, 00:13:50.822 --> 00:13:52.913 and one that needs global solutions, 00:13:52.937 --> 00:13:56.913 supported and pushed by us all, as global citizens, 00:13:56.937 --> 00:13:58.075 right here. 00:13:58.099 --> 00:13:59.265 Thank you. 00:13:59.289 --> 00:14:06.105 (Applause)