1 00:00:01,747 --> 00:00:03,785 My talk today is about something 2 00:00:03,785 --> 00:00:06,118 maybe a couple of you have already heard about. 3 00:00:06,118 --> 00:00:08,452 It's called the Arab Spring. 4 00:00:08,452 --> 00:00:10,350 Anyone heard of it? 5 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:13,475 (Applause) 6 00:00:13,475 --> 00:00:18,220 So in 2011, power shifted, 7 00:00:18,220 --> 00:00:20,863 from the few to the many, 8 00:00:20,863 --> 00:00:24,618 from oval offices to central squares, 9 00:00:24,618 --> 00:00:27,611 from carefully guarded airwaves 10 00:00:27,611 --> 00:00:30,298 to open-source networks. 11 00:00:30,298 --> 00:00:35,082 But before Tahrir was a global symbol of liberation, 12 00:00:35,082 --> 00:00:37,066 there were representative surveys 13 00:00:37,066 --> 00:00:40,056 already giving people a voice 14 00:00:40,056 --> 00:00:43,549 in quieter but still powerful ways. 15 00:00:43,549 --> 00:00:48,381 I study Muslim societies around the world at Gallup. 16 00:00:48,381 --> 00:00:50,865 Since 2001, 17 00:00:50,865 --> 00:00:54,246 we've interviewed hundreds of thousands of people -- 18 00:00:54,246 --> 00:00:56,021 young and old, men and women, 19 00:00:56,021 --> 00:00:58,161 educated and illiterate. 20 00:00:58,161 --> 00:01:01,664 My talk today draws on this research 21 00:01:01,664 --> 00:01:05,597 to reveal why Arabs rose up 22 00:01:05,597 --> 00:01:08,614 and what they want now. 23 00:01:08,614 --> 00:01:11,796 Now this region's very diverse, 24 00:01:11,796 --> 00:01:13,781 and every country is unique. 25 00:01:13,781 --> 00:01:15,431 But those who revolted 26 00:01:15,431 --> 00:01:18,370 shared a common set of grievances 27 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:21,547 and have similar demands today. 28 00:01:21,547 --> 00:01:24,398 I'm going to focus a lot of my talk on Egypt. 29 00:01:24,398 --> 00:01:27,764 It has nothing to do with the fact that I was born there, of course. 30 00:01:27,764 --> 00:01:31,348 But it's the largest Arab country 31 00:01:31,348 --> 00:01:34,763 and it's also one with a great deal of influence. 32 00:01:34,763 --> 00:01:38,747 But I'm going to end by widening the lens to the entire region 33 00:01:38,747 --> 00:01:41,564 to look at the mundane topics 34 00:01:41,564 --> 00:01:44,347 of Arab views of religion and politics 35 00:01:44,347 --> 00:01:47,532 and how this impacts women, 36 00:01:47,532 --> 00:01:51,304 revealing some surprises along the way. 37 00:01:51,304 --> 00:01:55,433 So after analyzing mounds of data, 38 00:01:55,433 --> 00:01:57,901 what we discovered was this: 39 00:01:57,901 --> 00:02:01,140 Unemployment and poverty alone 40 00:02:01,140 --> 00:02:05,734 did not lead to the Arab revolts of 2011. 41 00:02:05,734 --> 00:02:08,817 If an act of desperation by a Tunisian fruit vendor 42 00:02:08,817 --> 00:02:10,535 sparked these revolutions, 43 00:02:10,535 --> 00:02:14,535 it was the difference between what Arabs experienced 44 00:02:14,535 --> 00:02:16,915 and what they expected 45 00:02:16,915 --> 00:02:18,748 that provided the fuel. 46 00:02:18,748 --> 00:02:20,149 To tell you what I mean, 47 00:02:20,149 --> 00:02:22,331 consider this trend in Egypt. 48 00:02:22,331 --> 00:02:25,307 On paper the country was doing great. 49 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:28,164 In fact, it attracted accolades 50 00:02:28,164 --> 00:02:30,616 from multinational organizations 51 00:02:30,616 --> 00:02:32,682 because of its economic growth. 52 00:02:32,682 --> 00:02:35,331 But under the surface was a very different reality. 53 00:02:35,331 --> 00:02:39,081 In 2010, right before the revolution, 54 00:02:39,081 --> 00:02:41,232 even though GDP per capita 55 00:02:41,232 --> 00:02:44,331 had been growing at five percent for several years, 56 00:02:44,331 --> 00:02:48,831 Egyptians had never felt worse about their lives. 57 00:02:48,831 --> 00:02:51,099 Now this is very unusual, 58 00:02:51,099 --> 00:02:54,400 because globally we find that, not surprisingly, 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,015 people feel better as their country gets richer. 60 00:02:58,015 --> 00:03:00,798 And that's because they have better job opportunities 61 00:03:00,798 --> 00:03:04,211 and their state offers better social services. 62 00:03:04,211 --> 00:03:06,599 But it was exactly the opposite in Egypt. 63 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:09,331 As the country got more well-off, 64 00:03:09,331 --> 00:03:11,749 unemployment actually rose 65 00:03:11,749 --> 00:03:14,399 and people's satisfaction 66 00:03:14,399 --> 00:03:20,336 with things like housing and education plummeted. 67 00:03:20,336 --> 00:03:24,626 But it wasn't just anger at economic injustice. 68 00:03:24,626 --> 00:03:32,000 It was also people's deep longing for freedom. 69 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,266 Contrary to the clash of civilizations theory, 70 00:03:36,266 --> 00:03:39,802 Arabs didn't despise Western liberty, 71 00:03:39,802 --> 00:03:41,754 they desired it. 72 00:03:41,754 --> 00:03:44,503 As early as 2001, 73 00:03:44,503 --> 00:03:47,976 we asked Arabs, and Muslims in general around the world, 74 00:03:47,976 --> 00:03:50,905 what they admired most about the West. 75 00:03:50,905 --> 00:03:53,572 Among the most frequent responses 76 00:03:53,572 --> 00:03:55,924 was liberty and justice. 77 00:03:55,924 --> 00:03:59,090 In their own words to an open-ended question 78 00:03:59,090 --> 00:04:02,006 we heard, "Their political system is transparent 79 00:04:02,006 --> 00:04:05,207 and it's following democracy in its true sense." 80 00:04:05,207 --> 00:04:07,206 Another said it was "liberty and freedom 81 00:04:07,206 --> 00:04:09,938 and being open-minded with each other." 82 00:04:09,938 --> 00:04:14,573 Majorities as high as 90 percent and greater 83 00:04:14,573 --> 00:04:16,991 in Egypt, Indonesia and Iran 84 00:04:16,991 --> 00:04:19,674 told us in 2005 85 00:04:19,674 --> 00:04:23,873 that if they were to write a new constitution 86 00:04:23,873 --> 00:04:27,239 for a theoretical new country 87 00:04:27,239 --> 00:04:29,564 that they would guarantee freedom of speech 88 00:04:29,564 --> 00:04:31,974 as a fundamental right, 89 00:04:31,974 --> 00:04:34,058 especially in Egypt. 90 00:04:34,058 --> 00:04:38,040 Eighty-eight percent said moving toward greater democracy 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,606 would help Muslims progress -- 92 00:04:40,606 --> 00:04:44,823 the highest percentage of any country we surveyed. 93 00:04:44,823 --> 00:04:48,523 But pressed up against these democratic aspirations 94 00:04:48,523 --> 00:04:51,624 was a very different day-to-day experience, 95 00:04:51,624 --> 00:04:53,790 especially in Egypt. 96 00:04:53,790 --> 00:04:57,308 While aspiring to democracy the most, 97 00:04:57,308 --> 00:05:02,055 they were the least likely population in the world 98 00:05:02,055 --> 00:05:05,782 to say that they had actually voiced their opinion 99 00:05:05,782 --> 00:05:08,156 to a public official in the last month -- 100 00:05:08,156 --> 00:05:11,839 at only four percent. 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,607 So while economic development made a few people rich, 102 00:05:16,607 --> 00:05:19,605 it left many more worse off. 103 00:05:19,605 --> 00:05:23,191 As people felt less and less free, 104 00:05:23,191 --> 00:05:26,940 they also felt less and less provided for. 105 00:05:26,940 --> 00:05:30,690 So rather than viewing their former regimes 106 00:05:30,690 --> 00:05:34,124 as generous if overprotective fathers, 107 00:05:34,124 --> 00:05:38,325 they viewed them as essentially prison wardens. 108 00:05:38,325 --> 00:05:42,741 So now that Egyptians have ended Mubarak's 30-year rule, 109 00:05:42,741 --> 00:05:44,908 they potentially could be 110 00:05:44,908 --> 00:05:47,574 an example for the region. 111 00:05:47,574 --> 00:05:49,296 If Egypt is to succeed 112 00:05:49,296 --> 00:05:52,763 at building a society based on the rule of law, 113 00:05:52,763 --> 00:05:55,615 it could be a model. 114 00:05:55,615 --> 00:05:56,940 If, however, 115 00:05:56,940 --> 00:06:01,364 the core issues that propelled the revolution aren't addressed, 116 00:06:01,364 --> 00:06:05,074 the consequences could be catastrophic -- 117 00:06:05,074 --> 00:06:06,308 not just for Egypt, 118 00:06:06,308 --> 00:06:09,580 but for the entire region. 119 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:13,208 The signs don't look good, some have said. 120 00:06:13,208 --> 00:06:18,041 Islamists, not the young liberals that sparked the revolution, 121 00:06:18,041 --> 00:06:20,640 won the majority in Parliament. 122 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,311 The military council 123 00:06:22,311 --> 00:06:26,626 has cracked down on civil society and protests 124 00:06:26,626 --> 00:06:29,994 and the country's economy continues to suffer. 125 00:06:29,994 --> 00:06:34,759 Evaluating Egypt on this basis alone, however, 126 00:06:34,759 --> 00:06:39,387 ignores the real revolution. 127 00:06:39,387 --> 00:06:41,566 Because Egyptians are more optimistic 128 00:06:41,566 --> 00:06:44,013 than they have been in years, 129 00:06:44,013 --> 00:06:47,785 far less divided on religious-secular lines 130 00:06:47,785 --> 00:06:49,101 than we would think 131 00:06:49,101 --> 00:06:53,016 and poised for the demands of democracy. 132 00:06:53,016 --> 00:06:55,967 Whether they support Islamists or liberals, 133 00:06:55,967 --> 00:06:59,311 Egyptians' priorities for this government are identical, 134 00:06:59,311 --> 00:07:02,067 and they are jobs, stability and education, 135 00:07:02,067 --> 00:07:04,400 not moral policing. 136 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,468 But most of all, 137 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:06,899 for the first time in decades, 138 00:07:06,899 --> 00:07:10,649 they expect to be active participants, not spectators, 139 00:07:10,649 --> 00:07:12,950 in the affairs of their country. 140 00:07:12,950 --> 00:07:16,966 I was meeting with a group of newly-elected parliamentarians 141 00:07:16,966 --> 00:07:18,501 from Egypt and Tunisia 142 00:07:18,501 --> 00:07:20,033 a couple of weeks ago. 143 00:07:20,033 --> 00:07:22,811 And what really struck me about them 144 00:07:22,811 --> 00:07:28,000 was that they weren't only optimistic, 145 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,842 but they kind of struck me as nervous, 146 00:07:30,842 --> 00:07:32,193 for lack of a better word. 147 00:07:32,193 --> 00:07:33,482 One said to me, 148 00:07:33,482 --> 00:07:36,405 "Our people used to gather in cafes to watch football" -- 149 00:07:36,405 --> 00:07:39,422 or soccer, as we say in America -- 150 00:07:39,422 --> 00:07:43,805 "and now they gather to watch Parliament." 151 00:07:43,805 --> 00:07:47,159 (Laughter) 152 00:07:47,159 --> 00:07:49,381 "They're really watching us, 153 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:53,368 and we can't help but worry 154 00:07:53,368 --> 00:07:55,888 that we're not going to live up to their expectations." 155 00:07:55,888 --> 00:07:57,396 And what really struck me 156 00:07:57,396 --> 00:07:59,588 is that less than 24 months ago, 157 00:07:59,588 --> 00:08:01,839 it was the people that were nervous 158 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:04,921 about being watched by their government. 159 00:08:04,921 --> 00:08:07,771 And the reason that they're expecting a lot 160 00:08:07,771 --> 00:08:11,375 is because they have a new-found hope for the future. 161 00:08:11,375 --> 00:08:13,161 So right before the revolution 162 00:08:13,161 --> 00:08:16,638 we said that Egyptians had never felt worse about their lives, 163 00:08:16,638 --> 00:08:20,938 but not only that, they thought their future would be no better. 164 00:08:20,938 --> 00:08:24,171 What really changed after the ouster of Mubarak 165 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:26,005 wasn't that life got easier. 166 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:28,112 It actually got harder. 167 00:08:28,112 --> 00:08:31,205 But people's expectations for their future 168 00:08:31,205 --> 00:08:33,005 went up significantly. 169 00:08:33,005 --> 00:08:35,402 And this hope, this optimism, 170 00:08:35,402 --> 00:08:39,748 endured a year of turbulent transition. 171 00:08:39,748 --> 00:08:43,276 One reason that there's this optimism 172 00:08:43,276 --> 00:08:47,007 is because, contrary to what many people have said, 173 00:08:47,007 --> 00:08:51,189 most Egyptians think things really have changed in many ways. 174 00:08:51,189 --> 00:08:54,023 So while Egyptians were known 175 00:08:54,023 --> 00:08:57,490 for their single-digit turnout 176 00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:59,758 in elections before the revolution, 177 00:08:59,758 --> 00:09:03,590 the last election had around 70 percent voter turnout -- 178 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:05,589 men and women. 179 00:09:05,589 --> 00:09:10,503 Where scarcely a quarter believed in the honesty of elections in 2010 -- 180 00:09:10,503 --> 00:09:12,184 I'm surprised it was a quarter -- 181 00:09:12,184 --> 00:09:16,296 90 percent thought that this last election was honest. 182 00:09:16,296 --> 00:09:17,874 Now why this matters 183 00:09:17,874 --> 00:09:21,040 is because we discovered a link 184 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,274 between people's faith in their democratic process 185 00:09:25,274 --> 00:09:29,123 and their faith that oppressed people 186 00:09:29,123 --> 00:09:31,640 can change their situation 187 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,360 through peaceful means alone. 188 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:45,731 (Applause) 189 00:09:45,731 --> 00:09:48,152 Now I know what some of you are thinking. 190 00:09:48,152 --> 00:09:49,785 The Egyptian people, 191 00:09:49,785 --> 00:09:53,635 and many other Arabs who've revolted and are in transition, 192 00:09:53,635 --> 00:09:57,052 have very high expectations of the government. 193 00:09:57,052 --> 00:10:01,850 They're just victims of a long-time autocracy, 194 00:10:01,850 --> 00:10:04,067 expecting a paternal state 195 00:10:04,067 --> 00:10:06,446 to solve all their problems. 196 00:10:06,446 --> 00:10:10,035 But this conclusion would ignore 197 00:10:10,035 --> 00:10:13,185 a tectonic shift taking place in Egypt 198 00:10:13,185 --> 00:10:17,201 far from the cameras in Tahrir Square. 199 00:10:17,201 --> 00:10:20,867 And that is Egyptians' elevated expectations 200 00:10:20,867 --> 00:10:24,234 are placed first on themselves. 201 00:10:24,234 --> 00:10:28,401 In the country once known for its passive resignation, 202 00:10:28,401 --> 00:10:30,267 where, as bad as things got, 203 00:10:30,267 --> 00:10:33,736 only four percent expressed their opinion to a public official, 204 00:10:33,736 --> 00:10:37,048 today 90 percent tell us 205 00:10:37,048 --> 00:10:39,320 that if there's a problem in their community, 206 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,753 it's up to them to fix it. 207 00:10:41,753 --> 00:10:49,446 (Applause) 208 00:10:49,446 --> 00:10:51,249 And three-fourths 209 00:10:51,249 --> 00:10:54,080 believe they not only have the responsibility, 210 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,050 but the power to make change. 211 00:10:57,050 --> 00:10:59,314 And this empowerment 212 00:10:59,314 --> 00:11:02,246 also applies to women, 213 00:11:02,246 --> 00:11:03,917 whose role in the revolts 214 00:11:03,917 --> 00:11:06,068 cannot be underestimated. 215 00:11:06,068 --> 00:11:08,469 They were doctors and dissidents, 216 00:11:08,469 --> 00:11:10,035 artists and organizers. 217 00:11:10,035 --> 00:11:15,168 A full third of those who braved tanks and tear gas 218 00:11:15,168 --> 00:11:20,203 to ask or to demand liberty and justice in Egypt 219 00:11:20,203 --> 00:11:21,876 were women. 220 00:11:21,876 --> 00:11:27,519 (Applause) 221 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:30,208 Now people have raised some real concerns 222 00:11:30,208 --> 00:11:33,874 about what the rise of Islamist parties means for women. 223 00:11:33,874 --> 00:11:38,158 What we've found about the role of religion in law 224 00:11:38,158 --> 00:11:40,674 and the role of religion in society 225 00:11:40,674 --> 00:11:43,660 is that there's no female consensus. 226 00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:47,843 We found that women in one country 227 00:11:47,843 --> 00:11:49,810 look more like the men in that country 228 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:54,474 than their female counterparts across the border. 229 00:11:54,474 --> 00:11:55,992 Now what this suggests 230 00:11:55,992 --> 00:12:00,059 is that how women view religion's role in society 231 00:12:00,059 --> 00:12:05,340 is shaped more by their own country's culture and context 232 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:07,855 than one monolithic view 233 00:12:07,855 --> 00:12:10,692 that religion is simply bad for women. 234 00:12:10,692 --> 00:12:14,457 Where women agree, however, 235 00:12:14,457 --> 00:12:16,040 is on their own role, 236 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,573 and that it must be central and active. 237 00:12:18,573 --> 00:12:23,691 And here is where we see the greatest gender difference within a country -- 238 00:12:23,691 --> 00:12:26,441 on the issue of women's rights. 239 00:12:26,441 --> 00:12:29,041 Now how men feel about women's rights 240 00:12:29,041 --> 00:12:32,490 matters to the future of this region. 241 00:12:32,490 --> 00:12:34,524 Because we discovered a link 242 00:12:34,524 --> 00:12:38,526 between men's support for women's employment 243 00:12:38,526 --> 00:12:41,725 and how many women are actually employed 244 00:12:41,725 --> 00:12:44,909 in professional fields in that country. 245 00:12:44,909 --> 00:12:46,373 So the question becomes, 246 00:12:46,373 --> 00:12:50,548 What drives men's support for women's rights? 247 00:12:50,548 --> 00:12:57,297 What about men's views of religion and law? 248 00:12:57,297 --> 00:13:00,182 [Does] a man's opinion 249 00:13:00,182 --> 00:13:03,067 of the role of religion in politics 250 00:13:03,067 --> 00:13:06,716 shape their view of women's rights? 251 00:13:06,716 --> 00:13:07,949 The answer is no. 252 00:13:07,949 --> 00:13:10,834 We found absolutely no correlation, 253 00:13:10,834 --> 00:13:12,648 no impact whatsoever, 254 00:13:12,648 --> 00:13:15,183 between these two variables. 255 00:13:15,183 --> 00:13:18,899 What drives men's support for women's employment 256 00:13:18,899 --> 00:13:21,783 is men's employment, 257 00:13:21,783 --> 00:13:24,282 their level of education 258 00:13:24,282 --> 00:13:27,067 as well as a high score 259 00:13:27,067 --> 00:13:31,166 on their country's U.N. Human Development Index. 260 00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:32,357 What this means 261 00:13:32,357 --> 00:13:35,431 is that human development, 262 00:13:35,431 --> 00:13:37,727 not secularization, 263 00:13:37,727 --> 00:13:40,447 is what's key to women's empowerment 264 00:13:40,447 --> 00:13:44,131 in the transforming Middle East. 265 00:13:44,131 --> 00:13:47,080 And the transformation continues. 266 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,963 From Wall Street to Mohammed Mahmoud Street, 267 00:13:50,963 --> 00:13:53,020 it has never been more important 268 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:55,364 to understand the aspirations 269 00:13:55,364 --> 00:13:57,482 of ordinary people. 270 00:13:57,482 --> 00:13:59,213 Thank you. 271 00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:09,399 (Applause)