1 00:00:00,134 --> 00:00:00,953 ﹙路易斯安那頻道﹚ 2 00:00:00,953 --> 00:00:02,139 ﹙大衛霍克尼︰Photoshop真沉悶﹚ 3 00:00:02,139 --> 00:00:04,820 攝影的發明是化學發明 4 00:00:04,820 --> 00:00:08,349 現在化學攝影已可說是結束了 5 00:00:08,349 --> 00:00:12,808 它壽命維持了160年 6 00:00:13,346 --> 00:00:17,630 沒人想過化學攝影會終結 7 00:00:17,630 --> 00:00:19,900 沒人能預知 8 00:00:21,950 --> 00:00:25,790 但現在絕對完結了 9 00:00:25,790 --> 00:00:35,690 柯達八年前已不再製作定影液 10 00:00:36,660 --> 00:00:39,699 定影液曾是新發明 11 00:00:41,589 --> 00:00:44,120 達蓋爾有自己的做法 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,360 還有英國的攝影家塔爾伯特 13 00:00:50,020 --> 00:00:53,100 他們看到照片 14 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:58,720 他們看到現實一切都是彩色 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,250 初出現照片時 16 00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:04,709 他們都很驚訝照片是黑白 17 00:01:04,709 --> 00:01:08,719 塔爾伯特問赫歇爾爵士 18 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:13,875 “我們可以怎樣改善這張照片?” 19 00:01:14,183 --> 00:01:17,189 他們能用銀把照片印到紙上 20 00:01:17,912 --> 00:01:20,053 但效果維持不久 21 00:01:20,623 --> 00:01:24,799 赫歇爾爵士說 22 00:01:24,799 --> 00:01:27,770 “要改善照片就需要這些東西” 23 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:30,749 然後他寫出定影液的配方 24 00:01:30,749 --> 00:01:34,270 一直沿用至八年前 25 00:01:34,977 --> 00:01:40,067 我們現在已脫離了那時代 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:51,943 我於1989年受矽谷Adobe邀請 27 00:01:52,969 --> 00:01:55,666 出席Photoshop發佈會 28 00:01:56,482 --> 00:02:00,662 他們因各種原因邀請了不同的人 29 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:06,189 我獲邀應該是因為他們看過 我製作的棕櫚谷照片拼貼 30 00:02:11,406 --> 00:02:17,268 他們邀請我,我就跟助手一同前往 31 00:02:18,581 --> 00:02:22,653 我還帶了我的寵物狗 32 00:02:23,069 --> 00:02:25,159 我知道他們說過 33 00:02:25,159 --> 00:02:27,410 矽谷的人最討厭的兩樣東西 34 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:28,790 就是吸煙的人和狗 35 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:31,331 我說︰“你要將就,因為我已來了 36 00:02:31,331 --> 00:02:33,022 而你必須繼續進行” 37 00:02:33,022 --> 00:02:36,810 他們也有展示東西,我們有試用 38 00:02:36,810 --> 00:02:40,719 我們駕車回洛杉磯時 39 00:02:40,719 --> 00:02:47,520 我說︰“那全是在畫畫,化學攝影完了” 40 00:02:47,738 --> 00:02:50,129 因為你不能這樣處理化學攝影 41 00:02:50,129 --> 00:02:53,657 Photoshop必須是數碼 42 00:02:54,257 --> 00:02:58,099 當時我說得有點早 43 00:02:58,099 --> 00:03:01,276 但我預見到未來將會發生的事 44 00:03:02,123 --> 00:03:05,609 那些一小時沖印店會消失 45 00:03:05,609 --> 00:03:08,232 那是我常用的服務 46 00:03:08,585 --> 00:03:14,966 我開始看到背後的意味 47 00:03:15,459 --> 00:03:16,824 它現在更成功 48 00:03:16,824 --> 00:03:19,145 它們仍在,且越來越成功 49 00:03:19,852 --> 00:03:23,709 我的意思是,Photoshop 某程度上很有用 50 00:03:24,570 --> 00:03:29,330 但它令很多雜誌看起來差不多 51 00:03:29,915 --> 00:03:31,573 有點沉悶 52 00:03:31,927 --> 00:03:37,856 它修飾照片,令重點更明顯 53 00:03:37,856 --> 00:03:41,533 弄走瑕疵,如此類推 54 00:03:41,533 --> 00:03:42,735 荷里活很喜歡這樣 55 00:03:43,365 --> 00:03:45,760 他們都喜歡潤色 56 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,060 但也令東西看起來沒有新鮮感 57 00:03:51,060 --> 00:03:52,991 至少我是這樣覺得 58 00:03:52,991 --> 00:04:06,533 三十年前,就算是潮流雜誌 都會有許多繪圖 59 00:04:06,533 --> 00:04:10,741 所以一邊揭頁會看到很多不同東西 60 00:04:11,387 --> 00:04:15,303 但現在不多人繪圖,所以全是照片 61 00:04:15,979 --> 00:04:20,442 我覺得它因此越來越沉悶 62 00:04:22,688 --> 00:04:28,780 我們剛才在畢卡索展覽 63 00:04:28,780 --> 00:04:32,180 我看到那美麗的貓頭鷹 64 00:04:32,872 --> 00:04:36,010 我指出今時今日 65 00:04:36,010 --> 00:04:41,155 有些人會填充一隻真的貓頭鷹 並放進展覽櫃裏了事 66 00:04:43,001 --> 00:04:44,635 那不太有趣 67 00:04:44,912 --> 00:04:47,230 我對個年輕的朋友解釋 68 00:04:47,999 --> 00:04:50,573 畢卡索的出色之處是 69 00:04:50,573 --> 00:04:55,172 那不是真的貓頭鷹,那是 一個人在看貓頭鷹 70 00:04:55,187 --> 00:04:59,025 那是記錄一個人眼中的貓頭鷹 71 00:04:59,471 --> 00:05:01,330 所以才觸動我們 72 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:06,554 它比填充貓頭鷹更多貓頭鷹元素 73 00:05:07,431 --> 00:05:09,884 如果你找某事情的解決方法… 74 00:05:11,099 --> 00:05:16,100 我剛才提到春天 75 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:19,630 我現在於英國做有關工作 76 00:05:19,630 --> 00:05:24,741 你會如何描繪春天的來臨? 77 00:05:25,618 --> 00:05:31,035 春天的來臨太長,電影不能捕捉 78 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:35,430 它有動態,但速度對電影鏡頭來說太慢 79 00:05:37,429 --> 00:05:44,490 也不容易拍成照片 80 00:05:44,952 --> 00:05:48,238 因為初期跡象很細微 81 00:05:49,468 --> 00:05:52,890 鏡頭不太看到 82 00:05:53,951 --> 00:05:59,890 但人眼看得到,你可以把它誇大 83 00:06:00,100 --> 00:06:02,713 第一批生長的萌芽 84 00:06:02,713 --> 00:06:04,854 你強調它的綠 85 00:06:05,300 --> 00:06:08,506 鏡頭不善於表達顏色 86 00:06:08,506 --> 00:06:12,224 看不到微細的色彩 87 00:06:12,224 --> 00:06:16,550 彩色攝影在沙灘上沒問題 88 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:20,035 但拍綠色就不太好 89 00:06:20,035 --> 00:06:21,711 即使現在都是 90 00:06:22,065 --> 00:06:26,106 就算我們用九部相機 91 00:06:27,368 --> 00:06:30,980 用他們的不同曝光值 92 00:06:31,256 --> 00:06:33,310 都不能得出更多不同的綠色 93 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:37,480 我懂技術性的東西 94 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,836 例如菲林那些 95 00:06:38,836 --> 00:06:43,550 但是… 96 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,530 技術性問題沒有太多紀錄 97 00:06:48,530 --> 00:06:50,143 這些是技術性的問題 98 00:06:50,143 --> 00:06:52,263 你可以克服它們 99 00:06:53,678 --> 00:06:55,570 但若你沒多學習 100 00:06:55,570 --> 00:06:58,640 有些人會忘記它們是問題 101 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,800 也忘記解決問題的方法 102 00:07:02,010 --> 00:07:05,510 我現在面對東約克郡的冬天 103 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:09,790 那是跟這裏一樣的近水氣候 104 00:07:09,790 --> 00:07:11,100 是很相似的氣候 105 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:14,955 園藝學和農業都非常相近 106 00:07:14,955 --> 00:07:19,060 這邊剛剛才踏入春天,對吧? 107 00:07:19,060 --> 00:07:20,728 這邊剛剛才開始 108 00:07:20,728 --> 00:07:27,387 當然,南加州沒有春天 109 00:07:27,387 --> 00:07:28,796 至少不會很明顯 110 00:07:30,487 --> 00:07:34,863 我發現冬季有更多色彩 111 00:07:34,863 --> 00:07:41,603 這條小路在盛夏最黑暗 112 00:07:41,603 --> 00:07:46,489 因為樹葉的影子都蓋住了 就像一條隧道 113 00:07:46,489 --> 00:07:48,316 所以入面很黑暗 114 00:07:48,316 --> 00:07:50,340 當然會有光照進來 115 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:51,890 但仍是最黑暗的時間 116 00:07:51,890 --> 00:07:56,610 冬天如果下雪,就會最明亮 117 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:58,860 因為地面會反光 118 00:07:58,860 --> 00:08:01,490 我們用九部攝影機去拍 119 00:08:01,490 --> 00:08:03,638 我也常常繪畫它 120 00:08:04,069 --> 00:08:07,420 有個我們認識的本地醫生 121 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:10,329 她是個業餘畫家 122 00:08:10,329 --> 00:08:14,910 她來到我們工作室,我讓她看那些照片 123 00:08:14,910 --> 00:08:18,341 也讓她看那些影片 124 00:08:18,341 --> 00:08:22,954 她說︰“天啊,我從未看見這條小街!” 125 00:08:22,954 --> 00:08:27,116 她下一次來的時候說︰“David,你啟發了我們” 126 00:08:27,116 --> 00:08:33,490 看過你的影片後,我們駕駛到那兒 散步了非常長時間 127 00:08:33,490 --> 00:08:41,566 我說︰“那裏很美,讓我告訴你那裏很捧的原因 128 00:08:42,322 --> 00:08:46,435 那是英國很偏僻的地方 129 00:08:46,929 --> 00:08:54,825 偏僻部分是因為南面有寬闊的亨伯河 130 00:08:55,017 --> 00:08:58,470 而且那裏不太多人 131 00:08:58,470 --> 00:09:00,090 不多人住在那裏 132 00:09:00,090 --> 00:09:06,550 那是很好的農業用地,所以很少建築 133 00:09:07,217 --> 00:09:08,846 所以很少人 134 00:09:08,846 --> 00:09:15,617 我們可以去繪畫、攝影,都沒人阻止 135 00:09:15,831 --> 00:09:19,240 在洛杉磯,你若在車上拿出相機 136 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,003 就要帶着許可證 137 00:09:21,003 --> 00:09:24,710 還要找騎警來保護你 138 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:25,810 設定封鎖線 139 00:09:25,810 --> 00:09:27,542 荷里活警察之類的 140 00:09:29,664 --> 00:09:34,079 但在東約克郡,我們去到工作,沒人來阻礙 141 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:36,946 我們就懸掛在吉普车上 142 00:09:36,946 --> 00:09:43,782 有一次JP跟我在外面畫油畫 143 00:09:44,140 --> 00:09:46,099 那裏從來沒有其他人 144 00:09:46,099 --> 00:09:53,240 突然有四個警察從一輛豐田貨車下來 開告票給我們 145 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,366 因為我們沒繫安全帶 146 00:09:55,366 --> 00:09:57,926 我們不是要去多遠 147 00:09:57,926 --> 00:09:59,383 只是去拿畫布 148 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:01,280 也被開告票 149 00:10:01,772 --> 00:10:04,529 其中一個警察從車窗望進來 150 00:10:04,529 --> 00:10:09,125 對我說︰“你要繫安全帶,死神無處不在” 151 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:11,680 我望向車窗外 152 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:14,800 樹上正生出綠葉,春天正來臨 153 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:20,120 我就說︰“生命也是無處不在呢!” 154 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,840 總之我們收到告票 155 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,696 我們可能在展覽中展出告票 156 00:10:24,711 --> 00:10:28,830 我們那時是去畫油畫 157 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:30,730 設置了六塊畫布 158 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:33,711 如果他們看到我們用相機拍攝 159 00:10:33,711 --> 00:10:35,774 我們應該就要坐牢了 160 00:10:35,774 --> 00:10:37,483 因為我們懸掛着 161 00:10:37,483 --> 00:10:38,770 但我們不是駛得很快… 162 00:10:38,770 --> 00:10:41,325 我們時速十里 163 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:43,894 他們可能會不管 164 00:10:43,894 --> 00:10:50,317 但我們因安全帶而收到告票,真是有趣 165 00:10:50,317 --> 00:10:54,340 我有對他們說我不太喜歡被束縛 166 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:55,534 我真的不是 167 00:10:55,534 --> 00:10:59,110 我不喜歡安全帶 168 00:10:59,110 --> 00:11:01,790 很多人喜歡束縛,但我不… 169 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:04,011 其實還不錯,有時很有趣 170 00:11:04,826 --> 00:11:08,355 ﹙路易斯安那頻道﹚ 171 00:11:08,355 --> 00:11:12,467 ﹙由Nordea基金支援﹚ 172 00:11:14,020 --> 00:11:16,128 (louisiana.dk/channel) 173 00:11:16,314 --> 00:11:19,144 ﹙(c) LOUISIANA﹚