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Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Louisiana channel - David Hocney: Photoshop is boring)
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[David Hockney] The invention of photography was the invention of chemicals
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in a way, chemical photography is now ended.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It lasted - what? - 160 years.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, nobody thought chemical photography would end.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nobody predicts that, do they?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It ended - it certainly has ended now.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kodak stopped making fixative about eight years ago, I think.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fixative was the invention.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Daguerre did it his way
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in England Fox Talbot, who was playing with cameras,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and meaning, seeing these images -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and remember, they sold them in color: you always see them in color;
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were surprised that the photograph was black and white
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they first came out -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, he said to Sir John Herschel:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How can I -- how can we fix this image?"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They could get it on paper, using silver
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it didn't last long.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in fact, sir John Herschel said:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh well, if you want to fix it, you need this, this and this"
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wrote out the formula for fixative
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was still being manufactured till eight years ago.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now, we've now moved out of that period.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will point out, I - in 1989, I was invited by Adobe, in Silicon Valley,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the launch of Photoshop.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they invited a few people for various reasons.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tink I was invited because they'd seen the photo collage I'd done
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of - of Pearblossom Highway.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so they invited me and I went up with my assistant, Richard.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I took my dogs as well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said - I saw it -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two things they don't like in Silicon Valley:
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,smokers and dogs.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said "Well, you got to lump it,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm here and you'll have to do it."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they were showing as well - we tried things [check]
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we were driving back to LA, I said
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Wow, that was all about drawing
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's the end of chemical photography."
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because you can't do this with chemical photography.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be digital for the Photoshop.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was a bit early, but nevertheless,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could see that's what was coming.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one-hour Photomat place was going to disappear
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- that's what I had been using, things like that.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it has implications that I began to see.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've got bigger,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're still there now, they're getting bigger.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In a way, I mean to say, useful thing, Photoshop
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think it has made a lot of magazines look very similar,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather boring.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It polishes photography, they put the highlights in,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take them blemishes away, I mean that sort of thing,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love it in Hollywood,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they all touch up things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I mean, it's also causing a kind of stale look
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- to me, anyway, to me.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's why, if you need, you know,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even fashion magazines, thirty years ago,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have quite a lot of drawings in them
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you got a different thing as you looked through pages.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But not many people draw now, so it's all photography
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think, getting more and more boring because of it, I think.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, I was - we were just in the Picasso show here, you know.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was looking at that owl, that marvelous owl
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to Dave, I pointed out,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people just stuff a real owl and put it in a case.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not that interesting.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was explaining to my young friend
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why Picasso's is so marvelous.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It isn't an owl, it's a human being looking at an owl.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an account of a human being looking at an owl.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's what thrills us.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is more owlness there than in the stuffed owl.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you find a way to solve something -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was talking about the Spring, you know,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm working on that now in England -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how would you depict the arrival of Spring?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The arrival of Spring is too slow for a movie to catch it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It moves too - it moves, but it moves too slowly
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the movie camera.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's also not that easy to photograph
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the very first signs of it is so subtle
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the camera doesn't see them that well.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if the human eye sees it, you can exaggerate a little
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first little green shoots coming up,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you emphasize the green.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The cameras can't - they're not that good on color, really,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, they don't see the subtle colors at all, actually.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's OK, you know, on a beach, color photography
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but with greens, it's not that good, really,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even today it's not.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even, I mean, when we use nine cameras,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and therefore we could use different exposures on each one,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we didn't get a bigger range of greens.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that, I mean I know about,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know about technical things, about film and things.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's a -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peop-- you know,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not much is written often about these technical problems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're technical problems.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can overcome them but
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're not taught about them much,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people forget that there are problems
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that they have to be sorted out.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been dealing with the Winter in East Yorkshire.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a climate, just like this really, just over the water.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a very similar climate,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very similar horticulture and agriculture
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, the Spring is just beginning here, isn't it?
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just beginning there.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And - but of course, you don't get Spring in Southern California,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not big anyway -
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found there was more color in the Winter,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the road, this little road, is darkest of all
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the height of Summer
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because all the leaves of - come over it, it's like a tunnel
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's darker in it.
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I mean, you get in light coming in,
Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's it's dark is [check] (7:51)