1 00:00:00,330 --> 00:00:03,181 The kind of neuroscience that I do and my colleagues do 2 00:00:03,181 --> 00:00:05,347 is almost like the weatherman. 3 00:00:05,347 --> 00:00:08,863 We are always chasing storms. 4 00:00:08,863 --> 00:00:13,746 We want to see and measure storms -- brainstorms, that is. 5 00:00:13,746 --> 00:00:16,514 And we all talk about brainstorms in our daily lives, 6 00:00:16,514 --> 00:00:19,964 but we rarely see or listen to one. 7 00:00:19,964 --> 00:00:21,598 So I always like to start these talks 8 00:00:21,598 --> 00:00:24,580 by actually introducing you to one of them. 9 00:00:24,580 --> 00:00:28,007 Actually, the first time we recorded more than one neuron -- 10 00:00:28,007 --> 00:00:30,230 a hundred brain cells simultaneously -- 11 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:32,699 we could measure the electrical sparks 12 00:00:32,699 --> 00:00:35,379 of a hundred cells in the same animal, 13 00:00:35,379 --> 00:00:37,181 this is the first image we got, 14 00:00:37,181 --> 00:00:39,496 the first 10 seconds of this recording. 15 00:00:39,496 --> 00:00:42,847 So we got a little snippet of a thought, 16 00:00:42,847 --> 00:00:45,752 and we could see it in front of us. 17 00:00:45,752 --> 00:00:46,764 I always tell the students 18 00:00:46,764 --> 00:00:50,870 that we could also call neuroscientists some sort of astronomer, 19 00:00:50,870 --> 00:00:52,496 because we are dealing with a system 20 00:00:52,496 --> 00:00:55,413 that is only comparable in terms of number of cells 21 00:00:55,413 --> 00:00:58,349 to the number of galaxies that we have in the universe. 22 00:00:58,349 --> 00:01:01,379 And here we are, out of billions of neurons, 23 00:01:01,379 --> 00:01:04,197 just recording, 10 years ago, a hundred. 24 00:01:04,197 --> 00:01:05,780 We are doing a thousand now. 25 00:01:05,780 --> 00:01:11,180 And we hope to understand something fundamental about our human nature. 26 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:13,112 Because, if you don't know yet, 27 00:01:13,112 --> 00:01:18,362 everything that we use to define what human nature is comes from these storms, 28 00:01:18,362 --> 00:01:23,013 comes from these storms that roll over the hills and valleys of our brains 29 00:01:23,013 --> 00:01:26,898 and define our memories, our beliefs, 30 00:01:26,898 --> 00:01:29,598 our feelings, our plans for the future. 31 00:01:29,598 --> 00:01:31,996 Everything that we ever do, 32 00:01:31,996 --> 00:01:37,063 everything that every human has ever done, do or will do, 33 00:01:37,063 --> 00:01:42,497 requires the toil of populations of neurons producing these kinds of storms. 34 00:01:42,497 --> 00:01:44,980 And the sound of a brainstorm, if you've never heard one, 35 00:01:44,980 --> 00:01:48,329 is somewhat like this. 36 00:01:48,329 --> 00:01:51,475 You can put it louder if you can. 37 00:01:51,475 --> 00:01:57,878 My son calls this "making popcorn while listening to a badly-tuned A.M. station." 38 00:01:57,878 --> 00:01:59,363 This is a brain. 39 00:01:59,363 --> 00:02:02,797 This is what happens when you route these electrical storms to a loudspeaker 40 00:02:02,797 --> 00:02:05,663 and you listen to a hundred brain cells firing, 41 00:02:05,663 --> 00:02:10,285 your brain will sound like this -- my brain, any brain. 42 00:02:10,285 --> 00:02:14,047 And what we want to do as neuroscientists in this time 43 00:02:14,047 --> 00:02:19,397 is to actually listen to these symphonies, these brain symphonies, 44 00:02:19,397 --> 00:02:22,797 and try to extract from them the messages they carry. 45 00:02:22,797 --> 00:02:25,648 In particular, about 12 years ago 46 00:02:25,648 --> 00:02:28,696 we created a preparation that we named brain-machine interfaces. 47 00:02:28,696 --> 00:02:31,398 And you have a scheme here that describes how it works. 48 00:02:31,398 --> 00:02:36,964 The idea is, let's have some sensors that listen to these storms, this electrical firing, 49 00:02:36,964 --> 00:02:40,046 and see if you can, in the same time that it takes 50 00:02:40,046 --> 00:02:45,015 for this storm to leave the brain and reach the legs or the arms of an animal -- 51 00:02:45,015 --> 00:02:47,879 about half a second -- 52 00:02:47,879 --> 00:02:50,230 let's see if we can read these signals, 53 00:02:50,230 --> 00:02:53,630 extract the motor messages that are embedded in it, 54 00:02:53,630 --> 00:02:55,902 translate it into digital commands 55 00:02:55,902 --> 00:02:57,788 and send it to an artificial device 56 00:02:57,788 --> 00:03:03,681 that will reproduce the voluntary motor wheel of that brain in real time. 57 00:03:03,681 --> 00:03:07,529 And see if we can measure how well we can translate that message 58 00:03:07,529 --> 00:03:11,047 when we compare to the way the body does that. 59 00:03:11,047 --> 00:03:13,913 And if we can actually provide feedback, 60 00:03:13,913 --> 00:03:19,647 sensory signals that go back from this robotic, mechanical, computational actuator 61 00:03:19,647 --> 00:03:21,898 that is now under the control of the brain, 62 00:03:21,898 --> 00:03:23,209 back to the brain, 63 00:03:23,209 --> 00:03:25,330 how the brain deals with that, 64 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:30,231 of receiving messages from an artificial piece of machinery. 65 00:03:30,231 --> 00:03:32,552 And that's exactly what we did 10 years ago. 66 00:03:32,552 --> 00:03:35,513 We started with a superstar monkey called Aurora 67 00:03:35,513 --> 00:03:37,981 that became one of the superstars of this field. 68 00:03:37,981 --> 00:03:40,280 And Aurora liked to play video games. 69 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,653 As you can see here, 70 00:03:41,653 --> 00:03:46,597 she likes to use a joystick, like any one of us, any of our kids, to play this game. 71 00:03:46,597 --> 00:03:51,268 And as a good primate, she even tries to cheat before she gets the right answer. 72 00:03:51,268 --> 00:03:55,551 So even before a target appears that she's supposed to cross 73 00:03:55,551 --> 00:03:58,401 with the cursor that she's controlling with this joystick, 74 00:03:58,401 --> 00:04:02,352 Aurora is trying to find the target, no matter where it is. 75 00:04:02,352 --> 00:04:03,821 And if she's doing that, 76 00:04:03,821 --> 00:04:07,135 because every time she crosses that target with the little cursor, 77 00:04:07,135 --> 00:04:10,085 she gets a drop of Brazilian orange juice. 78 00:04:10,085 --> 00:04:13,035 And I can tell you, any monkey will do anything for you 79 00:04:13,035 --> 00:04:16,135 if you get a little drop of Brazilian orange juice. 80 00:04:16,135 --> 00:04:18,866 Actually any primate will do that. 81 00:04:18,866 --> 00:04:20,200 Think about that. 82 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,600 Well, while Aurora was playing this game, as you saw, 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,035 and doing a thousand trials a day 84 00:04:26,035 --> 00:04:29,918 and getting 97 percent correct and 350 milliliters of orange juice, 85 00:04:29,918 --> 00:04:33,317 we are recording the brainstorms that are produced in her head 86 00:04:33,317 --> 00:04:34,964 and sending them to a robotic arm 87 00:04:34,964 --> 00:04:38,835 that was learning to reproduce the movements that Aurora was making. 88 00:04:38,835 --> 00:04:42,618 Because the idea was to actually turn on this brain-machine interface 89 00:04:42,618 --> 00:04:47,318 and have Aurora play the game just by thinking, 90 00:04:47,318 --> 00:04:49,935 without interference of her body. 91 00:04:49,935 --> 00:04:52,851 Her brainstorms would control an arm 92 00:04:52,851 --> 00:04:55,560 that would move the cursor and cross the target. 93 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,751 And to our shock, that's exactly what Aurora did. 94 00:04:58,751 --> 00:05:02,951 She played the game without moving her body. 95 00:05:02,951 --> 00:05:05,188 So every trajectory that you see of the cursor now, 96 00:05:05,188 --> 00:05:08,400 this is the exact first moment she got that. 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,184 That's the exact first moment 98 00:05:10,184 --> 00:05:16,951 a brain intention was liberated from the physical domains of a body of a primate 99 00:05:16,951 --> 00:05:20,651 and could act outside, in that outside world, 100 00:05:20,651 --> 00:05:23,617 just by controlling an artificial device. 101 00:05:23,617 --> 00:05:28,534 And Aurora kept playing the game, kept finding the little target 102 00:05:28,534 --> 00:05:32,451 and getting the orange juice that she wanted to get, that she craved for. 103 00:05:32,451 --> 00:05:39,152 Well, she did that because she, at that time, had acquired a new arm. 104 00:05:39,152 --> 00:05:42,115 The robotic arm that you see moving here 30 days later, 105 00:05:42,115 --> 00:05:44,801 after the first video that I showed to you, 106 00:05:44,801 --> 00:05:47,451 is under the control of Aurora's brain 107 00:05:47,451 --> 00:05:50,619 and is moving the cursor to get to the target. 108 00:05:50,619 --> 00:05:54,518 And Aurora now knows that she can play the game with this robotic arm, 109 00:05:54,518 --> 00:06:00,234 but she has not lost the ability to use her biological arms to do what she pleases. 110 00:06:00,234 --> 00:06:04,301 She can scratch her back, she can scratch one of us, she can play another game. 111 00:06:04,301 --> 00:06:05,901 By all purposes and means, 112 00:06:05,901 --> 00:06:10,017 Aurora's brain has incorporated that artificial device 113 00:06:10,017 --> 00:06:12,767 as an extension of her body. 114 00:06:12,767 --> 00:06:16,300 The model of the self that Aurora had in her mind 115 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:20,384 has been expanded to get one more arm. 116 00:06:20,384 --> 00:06:22,734 Well, we did that 10 years ago. 117 00:06:22,734 --> 00:06:25,567 Just fast forward 10 years. 118 00:06:25,567 --> 00:06:30,550 Just last year we realized that you don't even need to have a robotic device. 119 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:36,034 You can just build a computational body, an avatar, a monkey avatar. 120 00:06:36,034 --> 00:06:40,284 And you can actually use it for our monkeys to either interact with them, 121 00:06:40,284 --> 00:06:44,723 or you can train them to assume in a virtual world 122 00:06:44,723 --> 00:06:47,767 the first-person perspective of that avatar 123 00:06:47,767 --> 00:06:53,418 and use her brain activity to control the movements of the avatar's arms or legs. 124 00:06:53,418 --> 00:06:56,184 And what we did basically was to train the animals 125 00:06:56,184 --> 00:06:59,234 to learn how to control these avatars 126 00:06:59,234 --> 00:07:03,133 and explore objects that appear in the virtual world. 127 00:07:03,133 --> 00:07:05,434 And these objects are visually identical, 128 00:07:05,434 --> 00:07:09,317 but when the avatar crosses the surface of these objects, 129 00:07:09,317 --> 00:07:15,717 they send an electrical message that is proportional to the microtactile texture of the object 130 00:07:15,717 --> 00:07:19,733 that goes back directly to the monkey's brain, 131 00:07:19,733 --> 00:07:24,785 informing the brain what it is the avatar is touching. 132 00:07:24,785 --> 00:07:29,550 And in just four weeks, the brain learns to process this new sensation 133 00:07:29,550 --> 00:07:35,984 and acquires a new sensory pathway -- like a new sense. 134 00:07:35,984 --> 00:07:38,400 And you truly liberate the brain now 135 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,784 because you are allowing the brain to send motor commands to move this avatar. 136 00:07:42,784 --> 00:07:47,784 And the feedback that comes from the avatar is being processed directly by the brain 137 00:07:47,784 --> 00:07:50,217 without the interference of the skin. 138 00:07:50,217 --> 00:07:52,751 So what you see here is this is the design of the task. 139 00:07:52,751 --> 00:07:57,001 You're going to see an animal basically touching these three targets. 140 00:07:57,001 --> 00:08:01,350 And he has to select one because only one carries the reward, 141 00:08:01,350 --> 00:08:03,217 the orange juice that they want to get. 142 00:08:03,217 --> 00:08:08,850 And he has to select it by touch using a virtual arm, an arm that doesn't exist. 143 00:08:08,850 --> 00:08:10,850 And that's exactly what they do. 144 00:08:10,850 --> 00:08:14,285 This is a complete liberation of the brain 145 00:08:14,285 --> 00:08:18,567 from the physical constraints of the body and the motor in a perceptual task. 146 00:08:18,567 --> 00:08:22,734 The animal is controlling the avatar to touch the targets. 147 00:08:22,734 --> 00:08:28,385 And he's sensing the texture by receiving an electrical message directly in the brain. 148 00:08:28,385 --> 00:08:32,268 And the brain is deciding what is the texture associated with the reward. 149 00:08:32,268 --> 00:08:36,100 The legends that you see in the movie don't appear for the monkey. 150 00:08:36,100 --> 00:08:38,584 And by the way, they don't read English anyway, 151 00:08:38,584 --> 00:08:43,800 so they are here just for you to know that the correct target is shifting position. 152 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,734 And yet, they can find them by tactile discrimination, 153 00:08:47,734 --> 00:08:50,951 and they can press it and select it. 154 00:08:50,951 --> 00:08:53,633 So when we look at the brains of these animals, 155 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:57,300 on the top panel you see the alignment of 125 cells 156 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:01,501 showing what happens with the brain activity, the electrical storms, 157 00:09:01,501 --> 00:09:03,568 of this sample of neurons in the brain 158 00:09:03,568 --> 00:09:05,684 when the animal is using a joystick. 159 00:09:05,684 --> 00:09:08,284 And that's a picture that every neurophysiologist knows. 160 00:09:08,284 --> 00:09:13,467 The basic alignment shows that these cells are coding for all possible directions. 161 00:09:13,467 --> 00:09:19,150 The bottom picture is what happens when the body stops moving 162 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:25,284 and the animal starts controlling either a robotic device or a computational avatar. 163 00:09:25,284 --> 00:09:28,350 As fast as we can reset our computers, 164 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:34,168 the brain activity shifts to start representing this new tool, 165 00:09:34,168 --> 00:09:39,418 as if this too was a part of that primate's body. 166 00:09:39,418 --> 00:09:44,133 The brain is assimilating that too, as fast as we can measure. 167 00:09:44,133 --> 00:09:47,751 So that suggests to us that our sense of self 168 00:09:47,751 --> 00:09:51,901 does not end at the last layer of the epithelium of our bodies, 169 00:09:51,901 --> 00:09:57,619 but it ends at the last layer of electrons of the tools that we're commanding with our brains. 170 00:09:57,619 --> 00:10:02,383 Our violins, our cars, our bicycles, our soccer balls, our clothing -- 171 00:10:02,383 --> 00:10:09,234 they all become assimilated by this voracious, amazing, dynamic system called the brain. 172 00:10:09,234 --> 00:10:10,933 How far can we take it? 173 00:10:10,933 --> 00:10:15,151 Well, in an experiment that we ran a few years ago, we took this to the limit. 174 00:10:15,151 --> 00:10:17,633 We had an animal running on a treadmill 175 00:10:17,633 --> 00:10:19,900 at Duke University on the East Coast of the United States, 176 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:22,600 producing the brainstorms necessary to move. 177 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,691 And we had a robotic device, a humanoid robot, 178 00:10:26,691 --> 00:10:29,085 in Kyoto, Japan at ATR Laboratories 179 00:10:29,085 --> 00:10:35,179 that was dreaming its entire life to be controlled by a brain, 180 00:10:35,179 --> 00:10:38,452 a human brain, or a primate brain. 181 00:10:38,452 --> 00:10:43,050 What happens here is that the brain activity that generated the movements in the monkey 182 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:46,517 was transmitted to Japan and made this robot walk 183 00:10:46,517 --> 00:10:50,584 while footage of this walking was sent back to Duke, 184 00:10:50,584 --> 00:10:55,817 so that the monkey could see the legs of this robot walking in front of her. 185 00:10:55,817 --> 00:10:59,884 So she could be rewarded, not by what her body was doing 186 00:10:59,884 --> 00:11:04,845 but for every correct step of the robot on the other side of the planet 187 00:11:04,845 --> 00:11:07,454 controlled by her brain activity. 188 00:11:07,454 --> 00:11:14,572 Funny thing, that round trip around the globe took 20 milliseconds less 189 00:11:14,572 --> 00:11:18,722 than it takes for that brainstorm to leave its head, the head of the monkey, 190 00:11:18,722 --> 00:11:22,592 and reach its own muscle. 191 00:11:22,592 --> 00:11:28,622 The monkey was moving a robot that was six times bigger, across the planet. 192 00:11:28,622 --> 00:11:35,022 This is one of the experiments in which that robot was able to walk autonomously. 193 00:11:35,022 --> 00:11:40,289 This is CB1 fulfilling its dream in Japan 194 00:11:40,289 --> 00:11:43,989 under the control of the brain activity of a primate. 195 00:11:43,989 --> 00:11:45,978 So where are we taking all this? 196 00:11:45,978 --> 00:11:48,321 What are we going to do with all this research, 197 00:11:48,321 --> 00:11:53,989 besides studying the properties of this dynamic universe that we have between our ears? 198 00:11:53,989 --> 00:11:58,822 Well the idea is to take all this knowledge and technology 199 00:11:58,822 --> 00:12:04,306 and try to restore one of the most severe neurological problems that we have in the world. 200 00:12:04,306 --> 00:12:08,889 Millions of people have lost the ability to translate these brainstorms 201 00:12:08,889 --> 00:12:11,005 into action, into movement. 202 00:12:11,005 --> 00:12:16,239 Although their brains continue to produce those storms and code for movements, 203 00:12:16,239 --> 00:12:21,406 they cannot cross a barrier that was created by a lesion on the spinal cord. 204 00:12:21,406 --> 00:12:23,856 So our idea is to create a bypass, 205 00:12:23,856 --> 00:12:27,888 is to use these brain-machine interfaces to read these signals, 206 00:12:27,888 --> 00:12:31,938 larger-scale brainstorms that contain the desire to move again, 207 00:12:31,938 --> 00:12:35,907 bypass the lesion using computational microengineering 208 00:12:35,907 --> 00:12:43,021 and send it to a new body, a whole body called an exoskeleton, 209 00:12:43,021 --> 00:12:48,588 a whole robotic suit that will become the new body of these patients. 210 00:12:48,588 --> 00:12:52,714 And you can see an image produced by this consortium. 211 00:12:52,714 --> 00:12:56,773 This is a nonprofit consortium called the Walk Again Project 212 00:12:56,773 --> 00:12:59,556 that is putting together scientists from Europe, 213 00:12:59,556 --> 00:13:01,421 from here in the United States, and in Brazil 214 00:13:01,421 --> 00:13:05,938 together to work to actually get this new body built -- 215 00:13:05,938 --> 00:13:09,272 a body that we believe, through the same plastic mechanisms 216 00:13:09,272 --> 00:13:15,074 that allow Aurora and other monkeys to use these tools through a brain-machine interface 217 00:13:15,074 --> 00:13:20,704 and that allows us to incorporate the tools that we produce and use in our daily life. 218 00:13:20,704 --> 00:13:24,388 This same mechanism, we hope, will allow these patients, 219 00:13:24,388 --> 00:13:28,156 not only to imagine again the movements that they want to make 220 00:13:28,156 --> 00:13:31,363 and translate them into movements of this new body, 221 00:13:31,363 --> 00:13:38,121 but for this body to be assimilated as the new body that the brain controls. 222 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:41,972 So I was told about 10 years ago 223 00:13:41,972 --> 00:13:47,038 that this would never happen, that this was close to impossible. 224 00:13:47,038 --> 00:13:49,489 And I can only tell you that as a scientist, 225 00:13:49,489 --> 00:13:52,475 I grew up in southern Brazil in the mid-'60s 226 00:13:52,475 --> 00:13:57,523 watching a few crazy guys telling [us] that they would go to the Moon. 227 00:13:57,523 --> 00:13:58,984 And I was five years old, 228 00:13:58,984 --> 00:14:03,224 and I never understood why NASA didn't hire Captain Kirk and Spock to do the job; 229 00:14:03,224 --> 00:14:05,656 after all, they were very proficient -- 230 00:14:05,656 --> 00:14:09,106 but just seeing that as a kid 231 00:14:09,106 --> 00:14:12,091 made me believe, as my grandmother used to tell me, 232 00:14:12,091 --> 00:14:13,936 that "impossible is just the possible 233 00:14:13,936 --> 00:14:17,840 that someone has not put in enough effort to make it come true." 234 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,639 So they told me that it's impossible to make someone walk. 235 00:14:21,639 --> 00:14:24,890 I think I'm going to follow my grandmother's advice. 236 00:14:24,890 --> 00:14:26,340 Thank you. 237 00:14:26,340 --> 00:14:34,369 (Applause)