[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lorenzo Pupillo] This Lorenzo Puillo, can you hear me? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Jason Buckweitz] Yes, Hi Lorenzo. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[John Curran] This is John Curran. I'm here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Robert Atkinson] We've got the list going, so.. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody could chime in, although I guess the ISOC Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who are viewing through Isoc, we don't know them, or.. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dave Burstein] I think we have a distinguished guest, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see Bob Hinden, who's the current chair of ISOC, is here, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we should give him a recognition, and on that point Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Eli Noam] OK [Dave Burstein].. mentionable. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Eli Noam] Alright, let's get started. Here it's 12 o clock. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to do this in 2 hours or less. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, welcome, can you see me? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Alright. I'm Eli Noam. I'm the Drirector of the Columbia Institute for Tele-Information Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I also hear a lot of muting, of echoes. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Um, I'm a Professor at the Columbia Business School, um, and, a host, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a kind of host. Dave, who is the organizer, sitting right next to me, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the front end. We are bookended, perhaps by Milton Mueller, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's article on Montevideo got us started on thinking and discussing this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much, Milton, and thank you in particular Dave who put the program together. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dave tried very hard to have a balanced participation, so if you are missing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody, an organization, a perspective - it's not from lack of trying. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wanted everyone here, within reason of course, but not everyone Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to go public. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, here we are, and we're going to talk about: Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There've been a lot of meetings - US, UN, Dubai, Bali, Baku - there's a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole Internet Governance industry out there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At Columbia we've had Hamadoun Toure 2 years in a row, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've had Larry Strickling. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know all the arguments. Some are reputable, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some are conventional, some are anti-American with a tech-veneer. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've heard Robert Mugabe extol Internet Freedom - Freedom from America. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, on the other side, are those who think the status quo is just fine, thankyou. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're determined here not to repeat those arguments, or at least to minimize them, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instead we want to brainstorm to see what the new ideas are, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the new options are, and we'll discuss them here today, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or at least, try to discuss them. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'd like to pass on the microphone to DAve Burstein who put this together. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you very much, Dave. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dave Burstein] Ya. Milton Mueller is the one that got this started, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bob Atkinson saw his note there and said we should do something about it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I agreed. Eli looked at me and said Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Would you do it?", and I said Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think we've got some interesting people here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are my slides up? Yes they are. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is there a third way for the Internet, neither the US not the UN but independent? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I advance the slide Jason? [Jason Buckweitz] Slide advance, right there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Dave Burstein] OK. We're going to open up with Eli Noam. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Uh, I look around the room. I'm in here at CITI, and all I seem to see Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are books with Eli Noam's name on it. The odds are that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything you've thought of, and wondered in this field, Eli discussed