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[Lorenzo Pupillo] This Lorenzo Puillo, can you hear me?

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[Jason Buckweitz] Yes, Hi Lorenzo.

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[John Curran] This is John Curran. I'm here.

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[Robert Atkinson] We've got the list going, so..

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everybody could chime in, although I guess the ISOC

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people who are viewing through Isoc, we don't know them, or..

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[Dave Burstein] I think we have a distinguished guest,

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I see Bob Hinden, who's the current chair of ISOC, is here,

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so we should give him a recognition, and on that point

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[Eli Noam] OK [Dave Burstein].. mentionable.

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[Eli Noam] Alright, let's get started. Here it's 12 o clock.

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We want to do this in 2 hours or less.

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So, welcome, can you see me?

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Alright. I'm Eli Noam. I'm the Drirector of the Columbia Institute for Tele-Information

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and I also hear a lot of muting, of echoes.

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Um, I'm a Professor at the Columbia Business School, um, and, a host,

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a kind of host. Dave, who is the organizer, sitting right next to me,

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is the front end. We are bookended, perhaps by Milton Mueller,

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who's article on Montevideo got us started on thinking and discussing this

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Thank you very much, Milton, and thank you in particular Dave who put the program together.

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Dave tried very hard to have a balanced participation, so if you are missing

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somebody, an organization, a perspective - it's not from lack of trying.

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We wanted everyone here, within reason of course, but not everyone

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wanted to go public.

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So, here we are, and we're going to talk about:

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There've been a lot of meetings - US, UN, Dubai, Bali, Baku - there's a

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whole Internet Governance industry out there.

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At Columbia we've had Hamadoun Toure 2 years in a row,

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we've had Larry Strickling.

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You know all the arguments. Some are reputable,

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some are conventional, some are anti-American with a tech-veneer.

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I've heard Robert Mugabe extol Internet Freedom - Freedom from America.

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And, on the other side, are those who think the status quo is just fine, thankyou.

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So we're determined here not to repeat those arguments, or at least to minimize them,

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instead we want to brainstorm to see what the new ideas are,

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what the new options are, and we'll discuss them here today,

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or at least, try to discuss them.

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So I'd like to pass on the microphone to DAve Burstein who put this together.

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Thank you very much, Dave.

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[Dave Burstein] Ya. Milton Mueller is the one that got this started,

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Bob Atkinson saw his note there and said we should do something about it,

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and I agreed. Eli looked at me and said

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"Would you do it?", and I said

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and I think we've got some interesting people here.

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Are my slides up? Yes they are.

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Is there a third way for the Internet, neither the US not the UN but independent?

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How do I advance the slide Jason? [Jason Buckweitz] Slide advance, right there.

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[Dave Burstein] OK. We're going to open up with Eli Noam.

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Uh, I look around the room. I'm in here at CITI, and all I seem to see

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are books with Eli Noam's name on it. The odds are that

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anything you've thought of, and wondered in this field, Eli discussed