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Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.89,0:00:07.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man] Quinze Minutes: the editors' reporting magazine
Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.41,0:00:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Woman] After the Lampedusa shipwreck,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.46,0:00:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we carry on our inquiry into the {\i1}causes{\i0} of recent migrants' boats shipwrecks.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.13,0:00:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Quinze Minutes magazine crossed the Mediterranean
Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.89,0:00:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to meet NGOs, academics and families who inquire
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.06,0:00:24.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into the dramatic circumstances of Europe-bound migration.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.06,0:00:26.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Shipwrecks in the Mediterranean: who is guilty?"
Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.85,0:00:31.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a reportage in Tunis by Alexandre Habay, edited by Sylvain Michel.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.05,0:00:36.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[coast guard] Pronto? A che distanza siete da Lampedusa?\N(Hello, how far are you from Lampedusa)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.75,0:00:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shipwrecked man] [unclear - in Arabic?]\N[coast gard] Dove siete? (Where are you?)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.78,0:00:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shipwrecked man] [unclear - in Arabic?]\N[coast gard] Dove siete? (Where are you?)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:42.07,0:00:45.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[shipwrecked man] [unclear - in Arabic?]\N[coast gard] Pronto? (Hello)
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.71,0:00:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Alexandre Habay (?)] What we heard is a Mayday call made via cell phone
Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.93,0:00:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by someone on the boat that got shipwrecked in front of Lampedusa
Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.83,0:01:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on September 6, 2012.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.14,0:01:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a Mayday call. It's really, really tragic to hear that.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.17,0:01:11.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The caller's hopelessness perfectly comes through
Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.72,0:01:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and unfortunately, this call is also rather unclear, actually.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.56,0:01:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is certainly one of the reasons why it was difficult for the Italian coast guards
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.37,0:01:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to immediately identify the position of the boat after this call,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.11,0:01:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this may have been a cause of the very shipwreck
Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.13,0:01:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and of over 70 people's disappearance.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.27,0:01:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This incident actually remains a mystery:
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.23,0:01:46.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 50 people were rescued, about ten bodies were found
Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.48,0:01:51.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the other people were never found
Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.53,0:01:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thus it is not known whether they in fact survived
Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.98,0:01:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or if the boat sank,
Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.31,0:02:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as neither the wreck nor the other bodies were found.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.15,0:02:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,GSM coverage usually starts a few kilometers from coasts.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.27,0:02:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we know that this boat was very, very near Lampione
Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.40,0:02:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when this Mayday call was made - and there were several such calls
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.85,0:02:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and several calls to passengers' families too.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.64,0:02:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[music]
Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.37,0:02:35.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Charles Heller] So, my name is Charles Heller.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.60,0:02:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a reseracher at London University and I am presently here
Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.89,0:02:44.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to support families and associations
Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.89,0:02:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in reconstructing various sea incidents
Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.01,0:02:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to understand what actually happened to all these missing or dead people:
Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.84,0:03:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact, these families whom we shall meet are searching for the truth.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.20,0:03:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Imed Soltani] Well, I'm Imed Soltani.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.24,0:03:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've just founded this association called "La terre pour tous" (Earth for all).
Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.87,0:03:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm Tunisian, an Arab
Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.63,0:03:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I have to work more than you
Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.95,0:03:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if your European children want to go to Tunisia or Algeria
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.74,0:03:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can come without hassle.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.83,0:03:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But as to us, if someone wants to go to the other side, they must die at sea.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.58,0:03:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's this name, I can tell you this name
Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.90,0:03:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the name of Mohamed El Himi, this one
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.80,0:03:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's Husein ben Ahmed el Himi, there's Nebil el Gazueli, there's Ali ben Attar ben Bouli,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.00,0:03:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's Sadr ben Bouli,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.26,0:03:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these names, this Kerim ben Ourdi Mbarki,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.92,0:04:00.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this one you see a third (check) -- this one is the land of Lampedusa.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.62,0:04:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] So actually, you've enlarged pictures from Italian TV news
Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.66,0:04:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you try to identify these young boat people?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.18,0:04:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Soltani] Yes. Families have recognized these children.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.99,0:04:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] Thus these young people, visibly, survived`
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.07,0:04:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are they now? Do you know where they are?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.89,0:04:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are they in touch with their families? Did it end w--
Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.93,0:04:23.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Soltani] No, nobody, no contact with families.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.64,0:04:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People who get into Lampedusa don't give their real name.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.28,0:04:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They tell other names.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.79,0:04:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people don't even want to give their fingerprints.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.70,0:04:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[children's voices]
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.04,0:04:40.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] What are we looking at?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.46,0:04:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man] This one is my brother, this one.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.14,0:04:47.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] What's his name\N[Man] M'hamed Haboubi - Mohamed Haboub.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.04,0:04:49.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] Yet there are -- well, the pictures is not very clear -
Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.83,0:04:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet there are many -- are you sure it's him?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.65,0:04:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man] Yes, my brother: he's been living with me for 22 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.30,0:04:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] And where do you think your brother is, now?
Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.25,0:05:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man] I don't know, it's the province (?) -- we are trying to find where he is.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.72,0:05:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] Because of course, if he'd safely reached Europe,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.30,0:05:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he would have called you; are you expecting a call from him?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.45,0:05:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man] Of course, but the Italian government made no declaration about these people.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.05,0:05:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Heller] Clearly, any time a relative is missing,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.62,0:05:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the family can't help but imagining what their fate might be.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.25,0:05:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people in Switzerland whose relatives are missing go through the same experience
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.84,0:05:48.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our mindset can't help but imagining the worse as well as the best scripts
Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.32,0:05:53.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thus I think that the first thing these families request
Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.27,0:05:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to know what happened to their relatives.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.54,0:06:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] Thus you, Charles Heller, in this research you are doing,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.42,0:06:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funded for instance by the Swiss national research fund,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.41,0:06:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thus by what means do you try to reconstruct what happened at sea?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.58,0:06:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you have technical means, for instance, do you conduct an inquiry?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.68,0:06:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Heller] Nowadays, incidents leave multiple traces:
Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.96,0:06:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there are survivors, their accounts,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.22,0:06:23.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many migrants phone their families.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.27,0:06:27.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there are all kinds of other elements that can be used, like satellite images,
Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.89,0:06:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which can enable us to understand which boats, which ships
Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.41,0:06:34.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were near a given boat.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.99,0:06:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] So why are you trying to reconstruct this context, actualy?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.79,0:06:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In order to identify responsibilities?
Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.46,0:06:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Heller] In the last 20 years, there have been over 14'000 deaths
Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.80,0:06:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the sea boarders, only of the Mediterranean.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.06,0:06:52.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And these are only documented instances, so obviously, there have been many more
Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.37,0:06:56.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one answers for these deaths.
Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.55,0:07:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2011 there was a turning point
Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.89,0:07:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with NATO's military intervention in Libya,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.07,0:07:14.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and with the shared feeling of many associations, who said:
Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.04,0:07:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But there has been a record number of deaths this year in central Mediterranea
Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.59,0:07:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas over 40 NATO ships are deployed in front of Libyan coasts,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.22,0:07:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,precisely in the area where these deaths happened."
Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.10,0:07:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this context, we made an inquiry about a ship that left Tripoli
Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.49,0:07:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on March 27, 2011
Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.36,0:07:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and after barely 24 hours, was in distress
Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.11,0:07:46.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with no more fuel.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.02,0:07:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It drifted for 14 days in the area monitored by NATO
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.34,0:07:54.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which, again, was probably, at that time,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.16,0:07:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the most monitored sea area in the world.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:58.16,0:08:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Italian and Maltese authorities, NATO, all new about their distress.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.68,0:08:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In spite of the fact that there had been {\i1}two{\i0} visits by an helicopter marked "army",
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.43,0:08:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when half the people on board were already dead,
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.30,0:08:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,passengers drifted near a big army ship
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.13,0:08:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose crew just photographed them before abandoning them to their fate.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.42,0:08:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end, only 9 out of the 72 passengers survived.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.58,0:08:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The report we wrote about this tragedy, this shipwreck
Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.82,0:08:47.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the basis for a claim filed against the various states involved in the Libya operation.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.49,0:08:54.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the first attempt to identify who is directly answerable for these deaths
Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.26,0:08:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beyond, again the deep political responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.06,0:09:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the European Union and of the Southern Mediterranean sates.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.12,0:09:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we also try to make inquiries about other shipwrecks that happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.76,0:09:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are closely following incidents that happened in Lampedusa in recent days.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.66,0:09:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Voices in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.14,0:09:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay or Heller?] So we are in Gebel Achmad, a very lower class neighborhood of Tunis
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.03,0:09:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from which about twenty boys left on the boat
Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.85,0:09:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whose Mayday call we heard.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.45,0:09:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to meet families who are still wondering what happened on that day.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.70,0:09:37.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Voices in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.20,0:09:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bensmida] My name is Mohamed Bensmida.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.19,0:09:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am the father of Ahmed Bensmida who was shipwrecked on September 6, 2012
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.20,0:09:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[words in arabic] 17 year old.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.74,0:09:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] His son is 17 year old and he wanted to do as his friends from this neighborhood,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.02,0:09:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, in order to better and change his life,
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.45,0:10:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he suddenly left.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.52,0:10:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bensmida ?] The agent...\N[Habay?] 136 people on board?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:03.68,0:10:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bensmida ?] Yes. That's when they arrived, 80 {\i1}amesh{\i0}, missing.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.01,0:10:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] What happened? Does one know?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.83,0:10:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bensmida] They say that they are, {\i1}maneh{\i0}, that the boat got broken, but [continues in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.04,0:10:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] The script becomes unclear after that.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.04,0:10:25.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter + Bensmida in Arabic] They are not convinced of what really happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.54,0:10:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His son's friends say that they saw his son swimming, in front of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.45,0:10:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as night fell, they didn't see him afterwards.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.31,0:10:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's ironic that a pregnant woman can reach the coast swimming
Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.32,0:10:43.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that others haven't - well, that they died.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.07,0:10:45.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bensmida ?] It isn't true. I'd like to have more explanations.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.82,0:10:49.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] If he'd managed to reach Italy, you would have heard from him,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.17,0:10:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or was he registered by authorities?
Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.40,0:10:55.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter + Bensmida in Arabic] He says they live in a delusion
Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.36,0:10:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they've heard that some people reached the shore,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.71,0:11:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then some are in prison.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.49,0:11:05.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's sickening is the delusion and vagueness.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.71,0:11:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bensmida] They made a Mayday call, Italia Ouini (?) made this Mayday call.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:09.57,0:11:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] The Italian and Tunisian governments are involved in this shipwreck
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.58,0:11:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there was a Mayday call, he said,
Dialogue: 0,0:11:16.93,0:11:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and normally, they must respond, and there was no response.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.34,0:11:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Zwaoui] [speaks in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.66,0:11:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] So she says her name is Samia Zwaoui (?).
Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.14,0:11:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her son is Bachlis Kilini (?)
Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.09,0:11:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he has been missing since September 6, 2012.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.71,0:11:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter + Zwaoui in Arabic] She had --
Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.73,0:11:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of 56 survivors who said that the hull sank.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.32,0:11:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And her son's friend got a message saying
Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.80,0:12:03.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he saw her (his?) children being taken away by Italian police in Palermo, in the port. {\i1}athlewa?{\i0} (check)
Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.17,0:12:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] OK. So you think he is still alive?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.33,0:12:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Zwaoui] [speaks in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.91,0:12:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] She has a feeling that her son is alive.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.39,0:12:14.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Zwaoui and the interpreter speak in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:14.100,0:12:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] She got a phone call from a double zero plus 44 number,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.36,0:12:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and someone said "Hello" several times\N[Habay[ That's England.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.70,0:12:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] I don't know what country code +44 is, but anyway, it's someone who --
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.99,0:12:32.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she felt it was her son because it was 5 months and half after the shipwreck
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.11,0:12:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was just to make sure whether it was actually her voice, his mother's voice, or not.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.41,0:12:39.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She tried to ring back but she got a busy tone.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:39.13,0:12:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Zwaoui] [in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.58,0:12:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] She even tried to call back yesterday.\N[Zwaoui] [speaks in Arabic]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.28,0:12:48.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Heller or Habay?] So, we've just heard these accounts.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.79,0:12:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's rather difficult to know what to think of them.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.46,0:12:55.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe some families are still in denial.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.53,0:13:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, as often happens when people go missing,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:00.35,0:13:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these families hang on to the slightest hope.these families hang on to the slightest hope.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.90,0:13:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Prayer call; bus engine]
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.85,0:13:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Synthetic voice] Next stop, Vidy (?)
Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.68,0:13:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] So now, we are back in Switzerland, at Mont sur Lausanne,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.61,0:13:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we are going towards the Civil Protection shelter where some asylum requesters are staying.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.02,0:13:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A group of young people are waiting there,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.38,0:13:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and among them, there is a Tunisian man with whom I have an appointment,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.50,0:13:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll talk with him about these Mediterranean crossings.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.63,0:13:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[2 voices, in English and Arabic ?]
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.35,0:13:41.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter ?] They came, 300 people in a boat.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.40,0:13:44.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Man speaks Arabic]\N[Interpreter] They came from Zarzis
Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.77,0:13:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a town on the Mediterranean shore. They paid 10'000 Euros to come here.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.91,0:13:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter +man in Arabic] He came here after the 2011 revolution.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.96,0:14:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They denied his asylum request in Italy.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.36,0:14:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] And in Switzerland?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.52,0:14:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter + man in Arabic] His asylum request was denied.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.45,0:14:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He must leave Switzerland by October 31.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.32,0:14:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Habay] Do you think all that was worth it?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:13.88,0:14:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Taking these risks, paying 10'000 Euros, risking to die at sea?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.16,0:14:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was it worth it to do that? Do you regret--
Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.45,0:14:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter + man in Arabic] He regretted it\N[Habay] Why?
Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.68,0:14:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter + man in Arabic] He is disappointed.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.67,0:14:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He came here looking for another, better, life, and he found something worse: he is in a bunker.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:34.65,0:14:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Arabic song]
Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.85,0:14:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Interpreter] "I've remained all alone in my exile, and I suffer, and I'm unlucky."
Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.64,0:14:51.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are the lyrics of this song.\N[Arabic song]
Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.19,0:14:58.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[15 Minutes jingle]
Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.57,0:15:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Journalist] This reportage can be seen again at any time on www.rtsinfo.ch