0:00:06.599,0:00:08.839 Hi! My name is Sarah. 0:00:08.839,0:00:12.259 I'm a Minority Rights activist[br]and an Egyptian. 0:00:12.349,0:00:16.649 For the past three years,[br]being an Egyptian has meant for me 0:00:16.649,0:00:19.159 reclaiming my belonging to this nation. 0:00:19.389,0:00:23.089 This is because, for the past[br]three years in Egypt, 0:00:23.089,0:00:28.019 I've been part of a collective effort[br]to formulate who we are, 0:00:28.019,0:00:31.129 but more importantly, what we want. 0:00:31.779,0:00:37.379 This is new because for the past 30 years[br]in Egypt, we've been taught by our regime 0:00:37.379,0:00:43.249 that what we will do is connected[br]to who we are as individuals 0:00:43.249,0:00:45.659 and not to what we want as people. 0:00:45.859,0:00:50.829 So, for the past 20 years,[br]I've been planning my future 0:00:50.829,0:00:54.319 independently from the fate[br]of my own people, 0:00:54.319,0:00:58.729 and I ended up leaving Cairo for Paris 0:00:58.729,0:01:04.249 on January 17, 2011,[br]to pursue my education. 0:01:05.049,0:01:07.069 On January 18, 0:01:07.069,0:01:11.169 I met this German journalist,[br]Camille, in a bar in Paris, 0:01:11.169,0:01:15.859 and she was doing work[br]on the uprisings in Tunisia. 0:01:16.189,0:01:19.679 After a few drinks,[br]she inevitably asked me, 0:01:19.999,0:01:23.939 "So, what do you think will happen[br]now that Ben Ali's regime is down?" 0:01:23.939,0:01:25.749 and I told her, "What do you mean?" 0:01:25.749,0:01:29.559 She said, "Well, don't you think[br]Egyptians will have their own revolution?" 0:01:29.559,0:01:33.909 I smiled at her sarcastically[br]and I said, "Of course not." 0:01:34.109,0:01:36.759 Obviously, she was right and I was wrong 0:01:36.759,0:01:42.949 because the revolution went ahead[br]and took place on January 25, 2011. 0:01:43.499,0:01:47.579 And I just couldn't believe I left Egypt[br]a week before the revolution, 0:01:47.579,0:01:51.809 and now I had to sit back[br]and watch it from so far away! 0:01:51.939,0:01:55.929 So, I developed a love-hate[br]relationship with this revolution. 0:01:56.109,0:02:00.889 I loved it because, for the first time[br]in my life, I could envision an Egypt 0:02:00.889,0:02:03.319 that I wished for and could be part of. 0:02:03.519,0:02:07.799 In fact, the idea was that anyone[br]could be part of this new Egypt. 0:02:08.289,0:02:11.939 I hated it because its very[br]existence reminded me 0:02:11.939,0:02:14.899 that I had lived for the past 20 years 0:02:14.899,0:02:18.489 completely disconnected[br]from my own people. 0:02:18.729,0:02:22.089 In June 2011, I went back to Egypt, 0:02:22.089,0:02:27.539 and I decided I will have random[br]conversations with friends and family 0:02:27.539,0:02:30.579 to make up my mind about this revolution. 0:02:30.959,0:02:34.299 At this time, Egypt was already[br]questioning the path 0:02:34.299,0:02:37.239 that it had taken to democracy. 0:02:37.409,0:02:40.897 And I soon discovered 0:02:40.897,0:02:45.397 that many of us shared this bitter-sweet[br]relationship with the revolution. 0:02:45.707,0:02:48.527 Ahmad El-Gamal, who was a blind journalist 0:02:48.527,0:02:53.857 I met on the course of a Minority Rights[br]training I was organizing in Egypt, 0:02:53.857,0:02:55.657 is a good example of that. 0:02:55.657,0:02:57.117 Ahmad might be blind,[br] 0:02:57.117,0:03:01.497 but it honestly took me five minutes[br]on a noisy bus ride in Cairo[br] 0:03:01.497,0:03:06.137 to discover that he sees Egypt[br]much more clearly than I do. 0:03:06.457,0:03:09.947 And if you ask Ahmad[br]about his story with the revolution, 0:03:09.947,0:03:11.637 he will tell you two things. 0:03:11.637,0:03:14.777 He will tell you that three years[br]before the revolution, 0:03:14.777,0:03:18.327 he met his assigned officer[br]from the Ministry of Interior. 0:03:18.657,0:03:22.957 This officer was responsible[br]for monitoring his anti-regime writings 0:03:22.957,0:03:27.477 and would come and pick him up regularly[br]in the middle of the night from his bed, 0:03:27.477,0:03:30.477 so he could spend the night[br]in prison for his writings. 0:03:30.627,0:03:34.207 Then Ahmad will amazingly fast forward 0:03:34.207,0:03:37.357 to January 28, 2011, 0:03:37.357,0:03:40.137 a date that Egyptians[br]call the "Day of Anger," 0:03:40.137,0:03:45.447 where he will tell you that he saw[br]all the colors of Egypt at Tahrir Square. 0:03:45.757,0:03:48.177 And he will tell you that it's on this day 0:03:48.177,0:03:52.007 that he realized that there[br]will be freedom in Egypt. 0:03:52.407,0:03:56.947 You see, before January 2011,[br]there was no freedom in Egypt. 0:03:57.227,0:04:03.097 Ironically, the best way to describe it[br]is to say that Egypt was a pyramid. 0:04:03.357,0:04:08.446 And depending on your class,[br]education, gender, ethnicity, religion, 0:04:08.446,0:04:10.716 you would be somewhere in this pyramid. 0:04:10.716,0:04:13.476 In a way, we were all[br]stuck in these categories 0:04:13.476,0:04:17.306 that defined who we are[br]and where we are in this structure. 0:04:17.546,0:04:19.676 There was no way to change that.[br] 0:04:19.676,0:04:25.276 It went on for so long, because it allowed[br]everyone to exclude at least someone: 0:04:25.506,0:04:28.946 the rich excluded the poor;[br]the men excluded the women; 0:04:28.946,0:04:31.536 the Muslims excluded the non-Muslims. 0:04:31.536,0:04:36.006 If you ask Egyptians about[br]how to call this type of regimes, 0:04:36.006,0:04:37.736 they will tell you two things. 0:04:37.736,0:04:41.776 Either they will tell you[br]it's not a dictatorial regime, 0:04:41.776,0:04:45.236 it's not an authoritarian regime,[br]it's not a military regime. 0:04:45.236,0:04:49.686 They will refuse all the above[br]categories that we usually use. 0:04:50.006,0:04:55.976 Or, they will tell you that[br]they can't agree on how to call it. 0:04:56.106,0:04:59.906 But, one thing they will tell you[br]is that they all felt excluded, 0:04:59.906,0:05:03.256 and that, no matter[br]where they were in the structure. 0:05:03.636,0:05:08.496 So no one knew the only chant everyone[br]agrees on about the revolution 0:05:08.496,0:05:11.636 is the Egyptians want[br]the end of the regime. 0:05:11.926,0:05:16.836 Unfortunately, the end of the Mubarak[br]regime in February 2011 0:05:16.836,0:05:19.536 did not mean the end[br]of the exclusion regime. 0:05:19.946,0:05:24.336 In fact, in February 2011,[br]the military took over, 0:05:24.336,0:05:29.326 and, while they were announcing[br]presidential and parliamentary elections, 0:05:29.336,0:05:34.046 a lot of street movements[br]like trade unions and youth unions 0:05:34.046,0:05:39.636 went on demonstrations[br]and became violent on November 2011. 0:05:40.486,0:05:42.746 For a lot of people[br]who had lived disconnected 0:05:42.746,0:05:46.536 from the political life like myself,[br]this was a double struggle. 0:05:46.536,0:05:49.216 This was a struggle[br]for political participation 0:05:49.216,0:05:54.986 but it was also a struggle against[br]our own little governments: our mothers. 0:05:55.336,0:05:59.406 Because we were prohibited -[br]my mum is in the public ... 0:05:59.406,0:06:00.916 (Laughter) 0:06:00.916,0:06:04.284 We were prohibited from going[br]to these demonstrations, 0:06:04.284,0:06:08.284 so myself and a few friends decided 0:06:08.284,0:06:11.154 that we will take the bus[br]to the university 0:06:11.154,0:06:14.306 and then we would agree[br]with the bus driver from the university 0:06:14.306,0:06:18.066 to take us to Tahrir Square[br]and then take us back home. 0:06:18.066,0:06:20.996 So we would go there,[br]scream from the top of our lungs 0:06:20.996,0:06:23.071 and then go home like nothing happened. 0:06:23.071,0:06:24.546 (Laughter) 0:06:24.546,0:06:27.139 As a journalist once put it, back then, 0:06:27.139,0:06:30.979 "Egypt is the only country where youths[br]are more afraid of their parents 0:06:30.979,0:06:32.909 than they are afraid of tanks." 0:06:32.909,0:06:34.809 (Laughter) 0:06:35.789,0:06:41.009 After a long fight, we eventually got[br]to elect our first civilian president 0:06:41.009,0:06:42.769 in June 2012. 0:06:43.039,0:06:47.229 The losers of the old regime[br]had become the winners of the new regime. 0:06:47.229,0:06:52.979 Everything was wonderful[br]until, on November 22, 2012, 0:06:52.979,0:06:56.479 I got this phone call[br]from a friend of mine, Manar, 0:06:56.479,0:06:59.739 who's a journalist about my same age, 0:06:59.739,0:07:03.809 and I was driving my little black car[br]in the crazy streets of Cairo. 0:07:03.809,0:07:07.589 She said, "Where are you?"[br]I told her, "I'm coming to meet you." 0:07:07.609,0:07:09.899 She said, "Well, pull over."[br]so I pulled over, 0:07:09.899,0:07:15.699 and she said, "President Morsi[br]just announced a constitutional decree 0:07:18.079,0:07:21.869 protecting his decisions[br]from all accountability." 0:07:22.579,0:07:26.389 I sat in silence in my car, 0:07:26.389,0:07:29.469 chocking in my deepest, darkest fears. 0:07:29.669,0:07:34.279 I felt betrayed and I felt angry[br]because this was a "déjà-vu," 0:07:34.279,0:07:39.479 and the question of how we got there was[br]just running again and again in my head. 0:07:39.729,0:07:44.944 I drove to my friend and,[br]as we sat talking and talking, 0:07:44.944,0:07:49.754 our anger transformed[br]into hatred against the Islamists. 0:07:49.884,0:07:51.494 And it hit me! 0:07:51.494,0:07:56.664 I realized that the biggest crime[br]that had been committed against Egyptians 0:07:56.664,0:08:00.564 for the past 30 years[br]is that the exclusion regime 0:08:00.564,0:08:06.544 was so embedded in our very ideas,[br]in our very soul, in our very being, 0:08:06.544,0:08:09.074 that we didn't even know about it. 0:08:09.074,0:08:12.644 We didn't even know about it[br]until we hit rock bottom, 0:08:12.644,0:08:17.864 and that rock bottom[br]was when our first elected president 0:08:17.864,0:08:22.844 had just excluded us from decision making. 0:08:23.754,0:08:27.214 You know, the more I think[br]about it, the more I tell myself 0:08:27.214,0:08:31.454 that the January revolution[br]and the June movement 0:08:31.454,0:08:35.524 and all the coming revolutions[br]are inescapable. 0:08:35.634,0:08:41.834 This is simply because exclusion regimes[br]bear the seeds of their own destruction. 0:08:41.834,0:08:45.114 With time and resistance,[br]they become violent. 0:08:45.114,0:08:47.684 And I'm not only talking[br]about the kind of violence 0:08:47.684,0:08:49.974 that Ahmad El-Gamal had to handle. 0:08:49.974,0:08:53.974 I am talking about all[br]the other kinds of violence 0:08:53.974,0:08:59.984 that are so subtle and end up[br]marginalizing everyone. 0:09:00.304,0:09:05.514 A lot of people ask us[br]why we went down on November, 0:09:05.874,0:09:11.834 and why we went down[br]against Morsi in June. 0:09:12.324,0:09:17.514 My answer is "because[br]the question is not about elections 0:09:17.514,0:09:19.524 and not about the parliamentary system. 0:09:19.524,0:09:23.904 it's about building a system[br]where we can all find a place 0:09:23.904,0:09:26.064 and realize our full potential." 0:09:26.224,0:09:31.894 No, we were not afraid of dying[br]because we don't want to live in a country 0:09:31.894,0:09:37.154 where we have to trade our freedom[br]and rights for a piece of bread 0:09:37.154,0:09:40.384 so that we can't hold[br]our governments accountable 0:09:40.384,0:09:45.594 for any other types of exclusion[br]that we have to handle everyday. 0:09:46.684,0:09:51.244 A lot of people ask me[br]why I work on Minority Rights in Egypt, 0:09:51.244,0:09:55.494 why I don't work on education[br]or raising awareness 0:09:55.494,0:09:59.584 to help democracy strike. 0:10:00.174,0:10:05.954 My answer is "because I believe[br]democracy starts at the margins." 0:10:06.164,0:10:10.634 It's only when a society[br]looks inside itself 0:10:10.634,0:10:15.804 and realizes the exclusion regimes[br]it is producing by its own self 0:10:15.804,0:10:18.544 that it can truly become democratic. 0:10:18.714,0:10:22.914 Today, the question in Egypt[br]and, I believe, everywhere is, 0:10:22.914,0:10:27.604 how can we talk about equality[br]if we're not talking about discrimination? 0:10:27.604,0:10:29.654 How can we talk about justice 0:10:29.654,0:10:33.714 if we can't talk about the violence[br]that has been done to us? 0:10:33.714,0:10:37.364 But more importantly, the violence[br]that we are doing to each other? 0:10:37.524,0:10:43.054 If I've learnt one thing for the past[br]three years of revolution in Egypt, 0:10:43.054,0:10:45.924 it's that democracy is about dialog, 0:10:45.924,0:10:50.744 and not the pretty sugar-coated dialog[br]that we hear in the media 0:10:50.744,0:10:52.994 about all the things we're doing right. 0:10:52.994,0:10:57.844 I am talking about the blunt,[br]honest and painful dialog 0:10:57.844,0:11:02.724 that we have to have with each other[br]about all the things we're doing wrong. 0:11:03.614,0:11:07.064 Today, Egyptians have created 0:11:07.064,0:11:10.414 the first electronic map 0:11:10.414,0:11:12.304 for sexual harassment. 0:11:12.304,0:11:15.354 They have engaged in monologues 0:11:15.354,0:11:19.484 to tell each other about the experiences[br]of violence they are living. 0:11:19.744,0:11:24.204 They have done things[br]like this and this 0:11:24.204,0:11:26.344 where they will paint a wall 0:11:26.344,0:11:31.164 that was made to prohibit[br]them from protesting, 0:11:31.164,0:11:36.154 into their own vision of what it should[br]be and their own vision of the future. 0:11:36.404,0:11:40.794 And this why today, if you ask me[br]right outside this hall, 0:11:40.794,0:11:45.024 if I believe that the Egyptian[br]revolution will succeed, 0:11:45.024,0:11:48.934 I will smile at you, [br]and this time honestly tell you, 0:11:48.934,0:11:50.774 "Of course yes!" 0:11:50.774,0:11:52.534 Thank you. 0:11:52.534,0:11:54.464 (Applause)