I am Lorena
I belong to the Zeitgest movement almost from the begining
I started here in Valencia with them
And now I am in charge of the cordination team
and work as an international connection for the visitors,
traveles and collaborations with other European Chapters
I started being part of this movement
because i participated in many movements
(she complains about the street sounds)
I joined the movement because, I participated in many organizations and social movements
And after a lot of time of debating and participation
and being close to some ideas
I discovered that maybe I was investing a lot of energy trying to change things that I found unfair
but each one of them was just a symptom of one big root problem
with this movement what I am trying to do, Is to help my partners to
solve this problem from the root, instead of attacking each symptom in parallel
the spanish chapter of Zeitgeist movement, like the other chapters i guess, was worn sponotaneously it was born spontaneously,
I think that the national coordinator was not expecting what the movement is now.
now we are more organized
and also that is why we are having more troubles than at the begining
but it´s because of the complex that we have reached
I think this will keep increasing and growthing
and the problems that we find in the way
will be solved
I believe on this, because I trust in our decisionmaking system
and our basic rules and mechanism. I think our problems can be solved with that mechanism
untill we find one better and more efficient
..actually the welfare stare, well ...we are humans
so here in Spain it produces the same Placebo effect, that produces
in other places, because all humans work on the same way
so i believe that now in Spain
the thing is that we are starting to see a problem in the welfare state
and that is why, may be
it will easier now to
help people to understand that we where wasting energy attacking the symptom
instead of being attacking the root problem
(repeat)
we have wasted a lot of energy attacking the symptoms
when we can be united and attack the problem from the root
we have seen that in other countries
may be is harder to help people
to understand this ideas, because of their welbeing
but in Spain now the situation is changing
and probably it will be easier, that people
ask for a change, even though we are not good oriented
to the real cause of the problem
(wind)
the truth I am not going to be afraid to say "i don´t know"
but at least i see it
I think it is possible
but I really know that we have to do it ourselves, because It wont come alone
so I think that who understands what is
the opensource technology
understands which is our idea of transition
the movement's idea of transition
(here) well if you are not part of the solution
you are part of the problem