WEBVTT 00:01:12.080 --> 00:01:17.962 Peace! Happiness! Smile! 00:01:18.160 --> 00:01:23.007 1, 234! Smile! More teeth! 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:28.923 Don't let the camera catch you looking bad! 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:34.729 Smile! 1, 2, 3, 4! 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.049 Real joy, not just pleasure! 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:44.964 And natural beauty! This isn’t fake! 00:01:45.160 --> 00:01:50.166 Okay, peace! Peace! Peace! 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:07.887 I'm looking for an actress... 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:10.924 ...an actress to play a mother. 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.248 Old ladies like you... 00:04:13.440 --> 00:04:16.728 When you see movie stars on TV- 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:20.685 - you must dream of becoming one. 00:04:20.880 --> 00:04:24.089 - No, I don't. - Why not? 00:04:24.280 --> 00:04:27.363 - You have nothing else to do. - No, I'm busy. 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:34.205 These women won't agree to play communists like this. 00:04:34.400 --> 00:04:41.602 It might work if we invite them to your house first... 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:45.407 But if we ask them right here, they'll be afraid. 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.002 People might think they really are communists. 00:04:49.200 --> 00:04:54.240 I disagree... In my neighborhood everybody would do it. 00:04:54.440 --> 00:04:57.649 Then let's go there instead. It's impossible here. 00:04:57.840 --> 00:05:01.970 This whole area was communist. 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:10.047 We're looking for women with children - 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:14.450 -to play communist wives. 00:05:14.640 --> 00:05:19.771 You try to prevent us from burning down your house. 00:05:19.960 --> 00:05:22.361 But in the end we burn it down. 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:27.560 'Mother, they burned our house down!' 00:05:35.200 --> 00:05:37.601 Like that. 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:42.249 And don't worry if you touch her breasts. You're still a kid. 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:44.602 Ready? 00:05:48.080 --> 00:05:50.003 Kill them! 00:05:50.200 --> 00:05:52.043 No! 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:56.802 - Destroy their house! - No, please don't! 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.881 Burn it! 00:06:02.080 --> 00:06:03.445 Kill! 00:06:03.640 --> 00:06:08.521 Cry! Weep! 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.644 Don't burn my house. 00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:17.529 Keep crying! 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.485 Okay cut, cut! 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:33.203 Whether this ends up on the big screen - 00:06:33.400 --> 00:06:39.362 - or only on TV it doesn't matter. 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:44.646 - But we have to show... - That this is the history! 00:06:44.880 --> 00:06:48.805 This is who we are! 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.527 So in the future people will remember! 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:56.167 It doesn't have to be a big film - 00:06:56.360 --> 00:07:02.561 - like Rank Organization, Paramount Pictures, MGM... 00:07:02.760 --> 00:07:10.087 We, in our simple way step by step - 00:07:10.280 --> 00:07:14.524 - will tell the story- 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:19.408 - of what we did when we were young! 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.805 Excuse me... 00:07:30.960 --> 00:07:37.241 There's many ghosts here, because many people were killed here. 00:07:37.440 --> 00:07:41.684 - They died unnatural deaths. - Unnatural deaths. 00:07:41.880 --> 00:07:44.611 They arrived perfectly healthy. 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.771 When they got here they were beaten up... and died. 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:55.047 At first, we beat them to death... But there was too much blood. 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:59.723 There was so much blood here... 00:08:00.760 --> 00:08:06.688 So when we cleaned it up, it smelled awful. 00:08:06.880 --> 00:08:12.489 To avoid the blood, I used this system. 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.843 Can I show you? 00:08:23.080 --> 00:08:25.651 Sit there. 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:29.410 Face that way. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:32.808 We have to re-enact this properly. 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.128 This is how to do it - 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:46.406 - without too much blood. 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:56.080 I've tried to forget all this with good music... Dancing... 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:58.890 Feeling happy.. 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.801 A little alcohol... 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.163 A little marijuana... 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:11.161 A little... what do you call it? Ecstasy.. 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:16.321 Once I'd get drunk, I'd 'fly' and feel happy. 00:09:16.520 --> 00:09:19.330 Cha cha. 00:09:37.560 --> 00:09:39.927 He's a happy man. 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:14.641 Anwar Congo, from the paramilitary group. 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:18.925 You've heard of him? From the Medan Cinema. 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:23.808 Now that I'm governor, I stab him if he threatens me. 00:10:30.400 --> 00:10:33.244 Everyone was scared of him. 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:35.124 The only one not scared was me- 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.120 - because he looked after me when I was a kid. 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:43.120 When I was in high school - 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.563 - I was the only one not scared of him - 00:10:46.760 --> 00:10:51.448 - because I didn't think of him as a big gangster. 00:10:51.640 --> 00:10:55.122 But when people heard his name, they'd be terrified. 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:59.848 - Why? - Because he's one of the killers. 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:04.762 Now, the communists' children are starting to speak out - 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:08.567 - trying to reverse the history. 00:11:08.760 --> 00:11:13.288 One of them wrote, 'I’m Proud to be the Child of a Communist.' 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.563 But this won't last long - 00:11:16.760 --> 00:11:19.366 - because the people won't accept it. 00:11:19.560 --> 00:11:23.167 Communism will never be accepted here, because - 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:30.050 - we have so many gangsters, and that's a good thing. 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:35.406 The word 'gangster' comes from English. 'Free men'. 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.650 Thugs want freedom to do things, even if they're wrong... 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:44.528 But if we know how to work with them - 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.202 - all we have to do is direct them. 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:06.604 We were gangsters. We didn't have real jobs. 00:12:06.800 --> 00:12:13.809 So we'd do anything for money.. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:17.721 ...just to buy nice clothes. 00:12:18.760 --> 00:12:21.047 This was the cinema - 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:24.050 - where I worked. 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:29.167 I'd stand here, scalping tickets and showing off. 00:12:29.360 --> 00:12:32.842 When films were popular, we'd scalp tickets. 00:12:33.040 --> 00:12:39.650 But when the communists were strong - 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:46.041 - they demanded a ban on American films. 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:52.282 They wanted fewer American films. 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.840 - So we gangsters made less money. - Because there was no audience. 00:12:59.040 --> 00:13:03.489 Hollywood films were popular. 00:13:03.680 --> 00:13:08.766 Without them the gangsters didn't make as much money. 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:12.931 As we say: 'Dinner missed the belly' 00:13:15.160 --> 00:13:20.291 When we'd watch happy movies, like Elvis movies - 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.681 - we'd leave the cinema smiling, dancing to the music. 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.769 Our hands... 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:36.682 Still dancing... 00:13:36.880 --> 00:13:39.804 Still in the mood of the film... 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.040 if girls passed, we'd whistle. 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:51.201 We loved it. We didn't care what people thought. 00:13:51.400 --> 00:13:58.124 Here was the paramilitary office, where I always killed people. 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:02.928 I'd see the guy being interrogated... 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:08.411 I'd give him a cigarette. I'd still be dancing, laughing... 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:13.686 it was like we were killing... 00:14:13.920 --> 00:14:15.763 ...happily! 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:43.085 When my mom was alive - 00:14:43.280 --> 00:14:49.811 - sometimes, when I was screaming... 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:56.729 ...my mom would rush in and wake me up. 00:14:56.960 --> 00:15:00.282 'Before you sleep, wash your feet!' 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.247 'Pray properly Don't just sleep.' 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:14.120 I know my bad dreams come from what I did... 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:19.129 ...killing people who didn't want to die. 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:21.402 I forced them to die. 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:32.011 Why are you daydreaming, my love? 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:37.331 Are you so uncertain? 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:58.968 You're a star now! 00:15:59.160 --> 00:16:02.243 Amazing! 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.408 This guy's a star! 00:16:08.680 --> 00:16:10.887 Joshua, film the photos! 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:16.041 That's the president's father-in-law, Sarwo Edhie. 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:20.450 - I'll introduce them one-by-one. - That’s the president. 00:16:20.640 --> 00:16:24.440 That's him with the president. 00:16:24.640 --> 00:16:31.171 Ibrahim Sinik is famous all across the country! 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:37.641 We gangsters keep him well protected. 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:40.844 We wish him a long, prosperous life. 00:16:41.040 --> 00:16:43.725 But don't forget to share your money! 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:46.321 Ask Joshua for money. 00:16:46.520 --> 00:16:49.126 After all, he’s from London! 00:16:49.320 --> 00:16:52.961 You interrogated communists in your newsroom? 00:16:53.160 --> 00:16:57.210 He was always gathering information. 00:16:57.400 --> 00:17:02.201 When he had the information - 00:17:02.400 --> 00:17:07.691 - he'd say: 'Guilty!' and we'd take them away and kill them. 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:13.768 When you interrogated communists in your office - 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:17.885 - what questions did you ask? 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.646 Whatever we asked, we'd change their answers - 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:24.605 - to make them look bad. 00:17:24.800 --> 00:17:27.644 As a newspaper man - 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:33.882 - my job was to make the public hate them. 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:37.766 And your relationship with the army? 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:41.567 - The army. - We had no formal relationship. 00:17:41.760 --> 00:17:45.367 But after we captured the communist youth - 00:17:45.560 --> 00:17:48.882 - and beat them to a pulp - 00:17:49.080 --> 00:17:52.482 - we gave them to the army but the army wouldn't take them. 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.287 They said, 'Just dump them in the river.' 00:17:57.480 --> 00:18:00.927 Do you remember exactly what the army said? 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:04.010 I didn't bring the victims. I had men for that. 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:08.364 Why would I do such grunt work? Why would I kill people? 00:18:08.560 --> 00:18:12.849 I didn't have to! One wink from me and they're dead! 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:55.771 Pancasila Youth! 00:19:07.560 --> 00:19:10.609 How you doing, Anwar? 00:19:11.280 --> 00:19:14.329 This is the real Anwar Congo! 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:27.087 Pancasila Youth, servants of the nation... 00:19:27.280 --> 00:19:30.489 Once our sails go up - 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:35.481 - we never turn back! 00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:55.247 - Pancasila! - Forever! 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:06.122 All Pancasila Youth members are heroes. 00:20:06.320 --> 00:20:08.926 From exterminating the communists - 00:20:09.120 --> 00:20:14.001 - to fighting neo-communists and left-wing extremists- 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:21.163 - and those who want to destroy our country.. 00:20:21.360 --> 00:20:24.364 This isn't only the duty of the army and police. 00:20:24.560 --> 00:20:29.122 We, Pancasila Youth, must take a stand. 00:20:29.320 --> 00:20:35.885 These are threats to the nation, and we must take action. 00:20:37.560 --> 00:20:42.441 They say Pancasila Youth is a gangster organization. 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:44.847 If we're gangsters- 00:20:45.040 --> 00:20:48.681 - I'm the biggest gangster of all. 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.608 Oh, shit! 00:20:59.920 --> 00:21:04.323 How did Pancasila Youth exterminate the communists? 00:21:04.520 --> 00:21:06.602 We killed them all. 00:21:06.800 --> 00:21:10.202 That's what happened. 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.970 May I hit the ball now? 00:21:22.080 --> 00:21:27.120 We have too much democracy it's chaos. 00:21:27.320 --> 00:21:30.563 What is this 'democracy'? 00:21:30.760 --> 00:21:35.049 Things were better under the military dictatorship. 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:38.323 Better economy More security . 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:43.001 Gangsters are free men. 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:48.923 They want to enjoy, life in their style. 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.362 Relax and Rolex. 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.290 You definitely have a mole on your pussy. 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.687 Definitely. 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:14.048 That was great. 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.363 If I get a strike, I get a massage! 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:46.689 There must be many ghosts here. 00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:49.929 They arrived perfectly healthy. 00:22:50.120 --> 00:22:52.851 Then they were beaten up. 00:22:53.080 --> 00:22:55.208 And died. 00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:59.089 Sit here. 00:23:02.760 --> 00:23:06.003 We have to re-enact this properly 00:23:17.040 --> 00:23:21.807 I never would have worn white pants. 00:23:22.840 --> 00:23:25.525 I never wore white. 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.929 I always wore dark colors. 00:23:29.960 --> 00:23:33.851 I look like I'm dressed for a picnic. 00:23:39.800 --> 00:23:42.690 My acting has to be violent. 00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:51.811 And maybe I should dye my hair black. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.483 And now he's dead. 00:23:59.760 --> 00:24:03.162 But how do you feel watching this? 00:24:03.360 --> 00:24:09.083 How do I feel? Back then I felt more free. 00:24:09.360 --> 00:24:16.005 Older men are gentle, but young men... 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:21.007 Especially me, because I watched so many sadistic movies. 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:25.643 We were influenced by them. So we... 00:24:25.840 --> 00:24:31.483 We were more cruel than the movies. 00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:39.165 I know a good location for a torture scene. 00:24:39.360 --> 00:24:47.360 Behind the school, in the old toilets... 00:24:48.840 --> 00:24:52.447 - But the neighbors will hear.. - They know me. 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.645 If I look at them, they run away. 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.730 Look, I'm laughing. I did it wrong, didn't I? 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.803 It's my mistake. 00:25:09.560 --> 00:25:14.248 I was influenced by films starring - 00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:18.923 - Marlon Brando, Al Pacino... 00:25:19.120 --> 00:25:27.120 Those were my favorites. And westerns with John Wayne. 00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:34.326 I brought these clothes from home. 00:25:34.520 --> 00:25:38.889 Hopefully they express my vision. 00:25:39.080 --> 00:25:46.202 Hey you have to change your shirt. Put on a white one. 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:53.249 You'll look lovely in this! Perfect! 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:59.123 - What the fuck is this? - Just a little decoration. 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:03.641 It matches your body shape. 00:26:03.840 --> 00:26:07.049 It's perfect! 00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:12.644 - This one's for the 'Big Boss'. - Yep. It's perfect for me. 00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:20.482 And you know where I got the inspiration for it? 00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:25.811 I always watched gangsterfilms - 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.210 - where they always kill with wire. 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.006 It's faster with wire. 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:39.651 Because when you pull the wire hard, the victim can't grab it... 00:26:39.840 --> 00:26:44.482 He can't, because it cuts in... 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:13.326 it's great to be a communist, huh? 00:27:13.520 --> 00:27:18.845 Don't just nod. Say 'Yes sir!' 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.043 - Wanna smoke, Pang? - No. 00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:32.089 Try this 'neo-colonialist' cigar. 00:27:32.280 --> 00:27:35.204 Have a puff. 00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:39.727 Just stick it in your nose if you don't want to smoke it. 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.969 - Look at him! - Look at me. 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:46.050 Look him in the eye! 00:28:09.320 --> 00:28:13.769 Hold on, Joshua. It's evening prayers. 00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.367 - Don't tie the blindfold so tight. - I didn't. 00:28:22.560 --> 00:28:26.167 The way I pull it just looks tight. 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.049 Even by the window it's hot. 00:28:52.120 --> 00:28:55.010 'Human rights!' 00:28:55.200 --> 00:29:01.481 All this talk about 'human rights' pisses me off. 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:06.481 'We want a little human rights!' 00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:11.004 Back then there was no human rights. 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.444 - Because you made a revolution. - That's no excuse. 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:21.568 For example, in Argentina some generals launch a coup d'état- 00:29:21.760 --> 00:29:26.163 - and then they're convicted of human rights violations. 00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:31.727 But I'm a gangster 00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:38.563 I'm a gangster A free man. 00:29:38.760 --> 00:29:41.127 A movietheater gangster. 00:29:41.320 --> 00:29:43.891 Not much education. 00:29:44.080 --> 00:29:48.802 - A human drop out. - A drop out. 00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:55.404 There are people like me everywhere in the world. 00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.646 They still look great. 00:30:22.280 --> 00:30:26.763 There were many Chinese communists! 00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:32.171 I got a thick book with all their names. 00:30:32.360 --> 00:30:36.001 I'd visit them, 'How much you gonna pay?' 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:41.411 They'd say 'Please, Sir don't! I'm old.' 00:30:41.600 --> 00:30:47.050 We used them for their money We didn't kill them. 00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:52.644 But if they didn't pay we killed them. They can't have it both ways. 00:30:52.840 --> 00:30:56.322 If they didn't pay.. 00:30:56.520 --> 00:30:59.171 ...we killed them. 00:31:09.800 --> 00:31:15.091 These Chinese are diff cult. Sometimes they piss me off. 00:31:19.040 --> 00:31:25.525 That's it... You sure speak good Chinese. 00:31:27.320 --> 00:31:32.531 When I need money there's nothing like an old friend. 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.487 With others, if it's not enough, I won't accept it. 00:31:38.800 --> 00:31:44.364 Hi Lung. C'mon, shake my hand. It's been a long time. 00:31:44.560 --> 00:31:48.690 - I need money. - Why me? 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.044 I'm asking you nicely 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:58.087 I don't even ask the others. I just punch them... 00:31:58.280 --> 00:32:01.489 An uppercut right in the stomach. 00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:08.650 You give this sincerely? Then thank you very much. 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:18.602 Our organization is planning a big meeting. We need money. 00:32:18.800 --> 00:32:22.600 We need more than normal. 00:32:22.800 --> 00:32:27.249 We need a huge amount. 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.922 Don't give the usual amount. 00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.846 What’s this shit? 00:32:34.040 --> 00:32:36.361 Give more or I won't accept it. 00:32:36.560 --> 00:32:41.646 - Please... - I'd never accept so little. 00:32:43.040 --> 00:32:45.088 Here. 00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:48.329 That's not enough. 00:32:48.520 --> 00:32:51.285 What's wrong with you, Cik? 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.882 We consider you our father Cik. 00:32:55.080 --> 00:33:00.723 So throw in more, and we'll take it, because this isn’t for just anybody. 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.130 Count it up and put it in. 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:27.526 The spirit of Pancasila Youth - 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.884 - which people accuse of being gangsters... 00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:36.802 Gangsters are people who work outside the system - 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:41.085 - not for the government. 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.281 The word 'gangster' comes from 'free men'. 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.530 This nation needs 'free men'! 00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.403 If everyone worked for the government- 00:33:57.600 --> 00:34:01.844 - we'd be a nation of bureaucrats. We'd get nothing done. 00:34:02.040 --> 00:34:05.408 We need gangsters to get things done. 00:34:05.600 --> 00:34:09.206 Free, private men who get things done. 00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.362 Use your muscles! 00:34:15.560 --> 00:34:18.688 Muscles aren't for beating people up - 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:24.045 - although beating people up is sometimes needed. 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.963 - Once more, Pancasila! - Forever! 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.766 - Pancasila! - Freedom! 00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:40.841 While you wait for this train, we wish to inform you - 00:34:41.040 --> 00:34:46.842 - that the traffic laws are there to protect you and your family. 00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:51.601 We also inform you, that in accordance with the law... 00:34:54.159 --> 00:35:00.441 - This is me, Anwar Congo. - Oh, that's you! 00:35:00.640 --> 00:35:03.484 Look, I'm rolling a joint. 00:35:03.680 --> 00:35:06.809 You're smoking pot. 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:13.246 That's me. I'm wearing a plaid shirt, camouflage pants, saddle shoes... 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.171 See how 'elite' I am? 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.967 This is what you should wear in the studio scene. 00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:26.691 And for the killing scene... Jeans. I wore jeans for killing. 00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:33.081 When you kill people, you should wear thick pants. Like this... 00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:38.605 - How about a checkered pattern? - That'd be great, but small ones. 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:44.648 To look cool, I imitated movie stars. 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.209 But I didn't copy Elvis Presley 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:54.611 Herman, I'll make you a gorgeous dress! 00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:59.809 - More energy! - We're ready boss! 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.129 Burn them all! 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.084 Finally you got it! 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:12.482 Cry 'What's going on, mom?' 'Leave us alone!' 00:36:13.520 --> 00:36:19.323 Wait everybody! Anwar show us how to kill. 00:36:21.640 --> 00:36:24.928 You! Come here! 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.885 What's going on? 00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:38.680 Who says I'm a communist? 00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:49.091 Hold him down! 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.641 Torture him! Kill him! 00:36:53.040 --> 00:36:54.769 Are you listening? 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:59.090 Stop denying you're a communist! 00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.091 - Okay fine! - Leave our grandfather alone! 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:10.330 You take him, I'll take the kids! 00:37:12.640 --> 00:37:15.803 - You love these kids? - Please stop. 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.401 Sit! 00:37:18.600 --> 00:37:23.083 - Or I'll smash this kid! - Let me go! 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:29.128 If you love these kids, you better stop lying. 00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.846 It's your choice! 00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.527 Cut! 00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:41.441 Amazing! 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:57.131 Why do people watch James Bond? 00:37:58.040 --> 00:38:00.441 To see action. 00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.884 Why do people watch films about Nazis? To see power and sadism! 00:38:07.080 --> 00:38:09.287 We can do that! 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:14.964 We can make something even more sadistic than... 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:22.565 ...more sadistic than what you see in movies about Nazis. 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.922 Sure I can! 00:38:25.120 --> 00:38:30.286 Because there's never been a movie where heads get chopped off- 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.565 - except in fiction, but that’s different - 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:38.765 - because I did it in real life! 00:38:48.640 --> 00:38:53.646 What's clear is no film has ever used our method. 00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:00.809 We can attract a huge audience! 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.005 Humor... it's a must. 00:39:05.200 --> 00:39:08.647 - Romance? - We've got it! 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:13.246 Fuck this umbrella! 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.444 Herman’s trapped. 00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:20.281 He should scream, 'Leave me alone! Stop! Stop!' 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:25.441 Meanwhile, the three of us scream, 'You communist bitch!' 00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:30.682 Keep attacking her! 00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:39.526 I'm gonna rape you! I'm gonna kill you! 00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:46.648 How long have you been pregnant? You'll give birth to a communist! 00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.889 But if the audience is tense the whole time - 00:39:50.080 --> 00:39:53.323 - with nothing to entertain them, it will never work! 00:39:56.680 --> 00:40:01.766 On Saturday night, I went to the movies. 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.490 Oh, I'm not gonna shake my ass or anything. 00:40:07.680 --> 00:40:14.529 I watched the movie alone with my girlfriend. 00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:22.720 The film was sold out - 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:29.690 - so I bought tickets from the movie theater gangsters. 00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:33.327 Oh how lovely.. 00:40:52.880 --> 00:41:00.651 - Adi! How’s the family? - We're all fine. 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:07.008 Was it a good flight? 00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:11.410 - How've you been, Anwar? - I'm fine. 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.162 - The city has changed a lot. - Really? 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.729 I've tried to call you many times. 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.084 But you never answer my calls. 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.047 Your nose needs more. 00:41:56.240 --> 00:42:03.089 - Do you remember Soaduon? - Yes, where is he? 00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:08.161 Over there. Soaduon Siregar. 00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:14.163 Now he takes credit for everything, but back then he was nobody 00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.842 I remember him. 00:42:24.600 --> 00:42:30.164 - Adi, this is Soaduon Siregar. - I remember you. 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.570 He's one of Ibrahim's Sinik's journalists. 00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:37.081 As they say: 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.241 'Although camels live in Arabia, they never get to visit Mecca.' 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:46.889 Being close to a rich boss didn't make him rich. 00:42:47.080 --> 00:42:51.005 Just like me. Have a seat. 00:42:51.200 --> 00:42:54.921 Interrogation of Communist, Take 2 00:42:57.040 --> 00:43:04.003 We give land to the farmers. 00:43:04.200 --> 00:43:09.161 We give them fertilizer, seeds, farming equipment... 00:43:10.200 --> 00:43:15.445 In order to spread communism, right? 00:43:15.640 --> 00:43:23.161 Indeed, we want to show that the Communists are the best party. 00:43:24.200 --> 00:43:30.401 Why do you recruit people to join an illegal party? 00:43:30.600 --> 00:43:35.925 But back then, it wasn't illegal. 00:43:36.120 --> 00:43:40.728 - It wasn't? - Before 1965? Of course not! 00:43:41.080 --> 00:43:48.362 It's easy to make the communists look bad after we destroyed them. 00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:54.001 So, the communists were not more cruel than us. 00:43:54.200 --> 00:43:58.569 We were the cruel ones! 00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.606 'Cruel' is totally different from sadistic. 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.522 - No, it isn't. They're synonyms. - No. 00:44:07.720 --> 00:44:10.291 Sadism is different. 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.768 - You're playing with words! - No, I'm not. 00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:16.201 You're playing with words. 00:44:20.040 --> 00:44:24.523 It bumped its head. 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:36.565 Sometimes I think... if my dad was a communist and was killed - 00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:41.084 - I'd be upset. That's normal, right? 00:44:44.560 --> 00:44:50.602 For example, if you killed my father I'd be upset with you. 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.087 Why'd you kill my father? 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:58.127 Then, you don't let me go to school. You don't let me work. 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:03.565 You don't even let me marry This needs to be changed. 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.764 There's been no official apology - 00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:10.567 - but what's so hard about apologizing? 00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:14.560 The government would apologize, not us. 00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.890 It would be like medicine. It would reduce the pain. 00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:24.246 - Forgiveness. - Wouldn't they curse us secretly? 00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:31.210 They curse us secretly.. Because if they cursed us openly.. 00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:36.566 They'd be arrested! So they whisper their curses? 00:45:38.200 --> 00:45:42.250 For me, Adi, in the end... 00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.566 I'm disturbed in my sleep. Maybe because- 00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:53.244 - when I strangled people with wire I watched them die... 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:57.570 But when you used other methods, you also watched. 00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.685 Yes, but when I'm falling asleep, it comes back to me. 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:04.611 That's what gives me nightmares. 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:13.286 You feel haunted because your mind is weak. 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.882 Have you ever been to a neurologist? 00:46:17.080 --> 00:46:23.008 If I went to a neurologist, it would mean I'm crazy. 00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:28.127 No! Psychiatrists are not for crazy people. 00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:34.885 Psychiatrists aren't for crazy people. They're nerve experts. 00:46:35.080 --> 00:46:42.089 Even I've been to a nerve expert... But for a mild stroke. 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:49.883 See, your nightmares are just a nerve disturbance. 00:46:50.160 --> 00:46:53.050 Come on, give it a try! 00:46:53.240 --> 00:46:59.327 If you see a shrink, you talk, he talks. 00:46:59.560 --> 00:47:03.007 Then he gives you nerve vitamins. 00:47:14.560 --> 00:47:18.042 Remember the 'Crush the Chinese' campaign in 1966? 00:47:18.240 --> 00:47:20.561 All along Sudirman Street - 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:25.288 - I killed every Chinese person I met. I stabbed them! 00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:32.967 I don't remember how many but it was dozens. 00:47:33.160 --> 00:47:36.687 If I met them, I stabbed them. 00:47:36.880 --> 00:47:41.807 All the way to Asia Street, where I met my girlfriend's dad. 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:46.483 Remember my girlfriend was Chinese? 00:47:46.680 --> 00:47:51.242 'Crush the Chinese' became 'Crush my Girlfriend's Dad'! 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.240 So I stabbed him, too! Because he was Chinese! 00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:00.446 He fell into a ditch. I hit him with a brick. He sank. 00:48:07.080 --> 00:48:12.166 Killing is the worst crime you can do. 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.807 So the key is to find a way - 00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.324 - not to feel guilty 00:48:20.520 --> 00:48:23.888 it's all about finding the right excuse. 00:48:24.080 --> 00:48:29.962 For example, if I'm asked to kill someone... 00:48:31.160 --> 00:48:38.044 If the compensation is right... 00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:44.491 ...then of course I'll do it, and from one perspective it's not wrong. 00:48:44.680 --> 00:48:49.208 That’s the perspective we must make ourselves believe. 00:48:51.200 --> 00:48:55.922 At first, I was scared... These are top gangsters! 00:48:56.120 --> 00:49:02.287 Like you and Anwar... 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.486 Terrifying! And making a film! It's shocking! 00:49:07.680 --> 00:49:11.127 But if you want a true story I have one. 00:49:11.320 --> 00:49:16.611 Tell us. Because everything in this film should be true. 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:21.601 There was a shopkeeper. 00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:26.203 He was the only Chinese person in the area. 00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:30.564 To be honest, he was my stepfather. 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:33.809 He was my stepfather.. 00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:37.766 But although he was my stepfather- 00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:42.045 - I lived with him since I was a baby.. 00:49:42.240 --> 00:49:48.361 At 3 AM, someone knocked on our door. 00:49:48.560 --> 00:49:55.125 They called my dad. Mom said, 'It's dangerous! Don't go out.' 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.926 But he went out. 00:49:58.120 --> 00:50:01.442 We heard him shout, 'Help!' Then, silence. 00:50:01.640 --> 00:50:06.168 They took him away We couldn't sleep until morning. 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.763 - How old were you? - 11 or 12... 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:13.725 I remember it well. 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:17.447 And it's impossible to forget! 00:50:17.640 --> 00:50:22.168 We found his body under an oil drum. 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.241 The drum was cut in half- 00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.842 - and the body was under it, like this... 00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:34.283 His head and feet were covered by sacks - 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.484 - but one foot poked out like this. 00:50:37.680 --> 00:50:41.685 That same morning, nobody dared help us... 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:49.287 We buried him like a goat next to the main road. 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:53.849 Just me and my grandfather carrying the body- 00:50:54.040 --> 00:50:58.967 - digging the grave... No one helped us. I was so small. 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:07.320 Then, all the communist families were exiled... 00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:12.962 We were dumped in a shantytown at the edge of the jungle. 00:51:13.160 --> 00:51:17.848 That's why to be honest, I've never been to school. 00:51:18.040 --> 00:51:21.931 I had to teach myself to read and write. 00:51:22.120 --> 00:51:26.523 Why should I hide this from you? 00:51:26.720 --> 00:51:32.921 I promise I'm not criticizing what we're doing. 00:51:33.120 --> 00:51:38.365 It's only input for the film. I promise I'm not criticizing you. 00:51:38.560 --> 00:51:41.928 Look, everything's already been planned. 00:51:42.120 --> 00:51:45.806 We can't include every story or the film will never end. 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:53.009 And your story is too complicated. It would take days to shoot. 00:51:53.200 --> 00:51:58.764 - Maybe we can work it in... - Or it can motivate the actors. 00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:04.049 We believe this man's a communist. 00:52:05.200 --> 00:52:11.924 After we decided to kill him, there were many reactions. Some prayed. 00:52:12.120 --> 00:52:17.524 - Come on, pray. - 'God help me!' 00:52:17.720 --> 00:52:21.441 How do you tell him he's going to die? Angrily or softly? 00:52:21.640 --> 00:52:28.842 I tried to make them accept that they were going to die. 00:52:29.040 --> 00:52:33.409 Anwar teach us how to torture. 00:52:33.600 --> 00:52:37.844 'You want me to use this?' 00:52:38.040 --> 00:52:42.329 - Should I scare him? - Yes. 00:52:42.520 --> 00:52:47.162 You want me to use this? 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:52.844 Then, beg him not to. 00:52:53.040 --> 00:52:59.400 Now, take the cloth and blindfold him. 00:52:59.600 --> 00:53:06.165 Josh always asks me, 'You worked in the same office - 00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.285 - how could you not have known?' 00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:16.567 I declare: I never saw anything. 00:53:17.520 --> 00:53:24.927 Now, seeing your re-enactment, I realize you were so smooth - 00:53:25.120 --> 00:53:30.604 - that even me, a journalist with such sharp senses... 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.802 I never knew! 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:41.000 I'm surprised. Because we didn't hide what we were doing. 00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:46.921 - If you didn't know, I'd be shocked. - I didn't. 00:53:47.120 --> 00:53:49.805 We were in the same office... 00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.927 - And we didn't hide it. - I never knew. 00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:04.082 You were so smooth, and I rarely went upstairs to your office. 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:10.162 - Your publisher directed the torture. - No! 00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:13.682 - He says so himself. - That's not true! 00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:21.048 He and the other leaders decided who we killed. 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:26.482 Look, I'm not calling you a liar, but logically.. 00:54:26.680 --> 00:54:31.846 - Continue, Adi. - I'm not calling him a liar Joshua. 00:54:32.040 --> 00:54:40.040 But this man, a journalist distancing himself from these things... 00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:46.601 That's predictable. But logically something we didn't hide... 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:52.170 How could he not know? Even the neighbors knew! 00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:57.890 Hundreds were killed. It was an open secret. 00:54:59.080 --> 00:55:04.689 - Drink! - Have some water. 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:09.090 - Drink! - It's not poison! 00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:14.127 Drink! Just drink it. 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:21.169 - Drink it. It will refresh you. - Give him a cigarette. 00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:26.003 Let him smoke. 00:55:26.200 --> 00:55:30.330 It's sadistic, Adi. 00:55:31.520 --> 00:55:37.209 Ask him again about his activities. 00:55:38.640 --> 00:55:43.487 Have mercy on me. 00:55:49.040 --> 00:55:53.045 Please, sir. 00:56:04.200 --> 00:56:07.249 Should we kill him? 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:12.651 Wait. Would you give a message to my family? 00:56:13.000 --> 00:56:15.287 Sure. 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:22.125 Or could I speak to them one last time? 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.767 No way. 00:56:29.040 --> 00:56:32.726 Okay pull. 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:44.527 Lower your head. 00:56:45.720 --> 00:56:48.041 He's dead. 00:56:51.840 --> 00:56:54.810 Wrap him up. 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:20.086 Listen, if we succeed in making this film - 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:25.571 - it will disprove all the propaganda about the communists being cruel. 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:29.321 - And show that we were cruel! - We're the cruel ones. 00:57:29.520 --> 00:57:36.051 If this film is a success! We must understand every step we take here. 00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:40.404 It's not about fear it's 40 years ago... 00:57:40.600 --> 00:57:44.525 ...so any criminal case has expired. 00:57:44.720 --> 00:57:49.647 It's not about fear it's about image. The whole society will say: 00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:56.610 'We always suspected it. They lied about the communists being cruel.' 00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:01.089 it's not a problem for us. It's a problem for history. 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:09.006 The whole story will be reversed. Not 180 degrees... 360 degrees! 00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:12.363 If we succeed with this scene! 00:58:12.560 --> 00:58:20.560 But why should we always hide our history if that's the truth? 00:58:21.680 --> 00:58:24.923 No, the consequence is... 00:58:25.120 --> 00:58:29.125 ...that everything Anwar and I have always said is false. 00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.971 It's not the communists who were cruel. 00:58:32.160 --> 00:58:36.210 - But that’s true! - I completely agree. 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:41.966 But not everything true should be made public. 00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:45.687 I believe even God has secrets. 00:58:47.120 --> 00:58:51.045 I'm absolutely aware that we were cruel. 00:58:53.080 --> 00:58:56.846 That's all I have to say 00:58:57.040 --> 00:59:01.568 it's up to you what to do about it. 00:59:37.720 --> 00:59:43.807 I don't mean to make you uncomfortable, but I have to ask... 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:49.086 By telling yourself it was 'war', you're not haunted like Anwar. 00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:53.888 But the Geneva Conventions define what you did as 'war crimes'. 00:59:54.080 --> 00:59:58.369 I don't necessarily agree with those international laws. 00:59:58.560 --> 01:00:03.407 When Bush was in power Guantanamo was right. 01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:09.084 Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. 01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:16.050 That was right according to Bush, but now it's wrong. 01:00:17.040 --> 01:00:22.046 The Geneva Conventions may be today's morality but tomorrow - 01:00:22.240 --> 01:00:26.689 - we'll have the Jakarta Conventions and dump the Geneva Conventions. 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:32.721 'War crimes' are defined by the winners. 01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:36.811 I'm a winner So I can make my own definition. 01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.402 I needn't follow the international definitions. 01:00:40.600 --> 01:00:46.801 And more important, not everything true is good. 01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:52.484 Some truths are not good. Like re-opening this case. 01:00:52.680 --> 01:00:56.446 Even if everything you're finding out is true, it's not good. 01:00:56.640 --> 01:01:01.851 But for millions of victims' families- 01:01:02.040 --> 01:01:07.126 - if the truth comes out, it's good. 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:12.724 Fine, but start with the first murder Cain and Abel. 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:17.289 Why focus on killing the communists? 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.051 Americans killed the Indians. 01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:24.086 Has anybody been punished for that? Punish them! 01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:28.410 For me, re-opening this case is a provocation to fight. 01:01:28.600 --> 01:01:33.003 I'm ready! If the world wants continuous war, I'm ready 01:01:33.200 --> 01:01:37.205 if you wanna make us fight, I'm ready! 01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:43.965 What if you were brought to the international court in the Hague? 01:01:44.160 --> 01:01:47.130 - Now? - Yes. 01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:52.850 I'd go! I don't feel guilty so why would I go? 01:01:53.040 --> 01:01:57.807 Because I'd be famous. I'm ready! 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:03.530 Please, get me called to the Hague! 01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.531 More hot! 01:02:15.120 --> 01:02:17.691 More hot! 01:02:20.600 --> 01:02:24.286 I like this... Eye candy. 01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:35.689 This is healthy for a guy like me. 01:02:41.720 --> 01:02:44.166 Enjoy the scenery Ma'am. Okay. 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.887 - One, two, three. - Ah! 01:02:48.080 --> 01:02:50.845 - Again! One, two, three. - Ah! 01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:56.522 I was asked to run for parliament. 01:02:56.720 --> 01:03:01.044 'Why me?' 'Don't worry! You can do it!' they said. 01:03:07.560 --> 01:03:13.169 Then I thought, 'Why not?'. 01:03:13.360 --> 01:03:18.890 In fact, I'm a perfect candidate because I'm well known! 01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:37.644 Don't clench your fist. 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.366 Be quiet! I've almost got it! 01:03:40.560 --> 01:03:44.087 - OK, but don't make a fist. - You're ruining the sound! 01:03:44.280 --> 01:03:47.124 - But... - Stop it! 01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:52.451 Be quiet! You're a real pain! Just shut up! 01:03:52.640 --> 01:03:57.043 Long live the Businessmen and Workers Party! I am Herman... 01:03:57.240 --> 01:04:01.962 ...ready to fight for workers' rights. 01:04:02.160 --> 01:04:06.165 Remember to vote for me on election day! 01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:13.922 If I get elected and get on the Building Commission - 01:04:14.120 --> 01:04:19.604 - I can get money from everyone. 01:04:20.640 --> 01:04:25.407 For example, if a building is 10 cm too small... 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:30.162 I can demand 'Tear down the building!'. 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:34.524 They'll say, 'Please don't report us. Here's your money'. 01:04:35.600 --> 01:04:39.889 Even if nothing's wrong with the building - 01:04:40.120 --> 01:04:44.170 - if I threaten them, they'll give me money anyway. 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:50.841 Not just a little money In a block of 10 buildings... 01:04:51.040 --> 01:04:54.567 if each pays $10000, just do the math! 01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:58.162 That's already $100,000. 01:05:00.200 --> 01:05:02.521 That's only one neighborhood! 01:05:04.520 --> 01:05:11.290 Actually parliament should bethe most noble place in society. 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:14.723 But if we see what they do there... 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:22.771 They're really just robbers with ties. 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.767 What illegal businesses are Pancasila Youth involved in? 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.964 Gambling. 01:05:33.160 --> 01:05:37.210 Gambling, night clubs. 01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.641 Supermarkets. 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:44.243 But that’s not illegal. They just hire us as security. 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:48.126 - The illegal ones? - Gambling. 01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:51.051 - Any others? - Smuggling. 01:05:51.240 --> 01:05:57.486 Illegal fishing, illegal logging, illegal gambling... 01:05:57.680 --> 01:06:01.651 ...and if they don't pay we blackmail them. 01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:06.126 Let's welcome our candidate, Marzuki! 01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.449 Long live our party! 01:06:09.640 --> 01:06:11.369 Pancasila! 01:06:12.680 --> 01:06:16.002 Ready! 01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:20.000 What am I supposed to say? How does it begin? 01:06:20.200 --> 01:06:24.205 - What's the first sentence? - I'm Herman. 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.483 - I'm Herman! - Stand up, you'll look better. 01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:31.003 Ladies and gentlemen... What comes next? I can't remember 01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:38.482 I'm Herman, from the Businessmen and Workers' Party! 01:06:43.560 --> 01:06:48.441 - Any free T-shirts? - Nope... Ma'am, here's my card. 01:06:48.640 --> 01:06:51.120 T-shirts! We want presents! 01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:56.326 Don't worry about money or presents. We'll come back with gifts. 01:06:56.520 --> 01:06:59.524 Pray for us, hopefully he'll win. 01:06:59.720 --> 01:07:02.451 Tell people who ask for presents... 01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:05.769 'We'll come back with gifts if we win.' 01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.726 Tell them, 'We're filming today' 01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.247 - Don't forget. - Just a card? 01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.522 Where's 'the bonus'? Don't we get anything else? 01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:19.684 - 'The bonus' comes later. - Once you're elected? 01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:25.171 - Honey where do you think you are? - Yes, but... 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:33.122 Many of the parties bribe people to vote for them. 01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:36.369 In fact, they all do. 01:07:36.560 --> 01:07:40.690 And when you see thousands of people at a rally - 01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:44.930 - all of them were paid to be there. 01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.684 They consider it going to work. 01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:56.322 Without money they won't come. 01:07:56.520 --> 01:08:00.605 They'll ask each other, 'how much did you get?'. 01:08:03.720 --> 01:08:08.408 And leaders just get paid more! 01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:21.768 Nowadays, nobody believes in what they're campaigning for. 01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.446 We've all become like soap opera actors. 01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:36.326 Our souls have become like soap opera actors. 01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:40.081 They look happy, but inside they’re pissed off! 01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:44.046 Fuck this shit, they're thinking. 01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:12.080 Where's the injured one? 01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:20.769 Where’s the crippled one? 01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:24.042 - Which? - The injured one. 01:09:24.240 --> 01:09:27.642 There she is. 01:09:28.240 --> 01:09:32.131 - Sweet little duck. - Don't! You'll hurt her again. 01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:39.245 She's weak because you broke her leg. 01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:47.127 Don't do that. She's a baby! 01:09:48.160 --> 01:09:51.801 Say 'I’m sorry Duck.' 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.207 - I'm sorry Duck. - That's it. 01:09:54.400 --> 01:09:58.928 Now say 'lt was an accident. I was scared, so I hit you.' 01:09:59.200 --> 01:10:02.329 Say 'lt was an accident.' Speak loudly. 01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:07.287 - Sorry Duck. - And pet her a little. 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.642 Now the communist has become a ghost. 01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:27.804 He was killed and became a ghost. 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.685 - Haunting you. - Haunting me. 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.208 Do you feel trauma seeing this? 01:10:34.480 --> 01:10:40.886 If he came to me at night, I'd be terrified. 01:10:41.080 --> 01:10:45.927 It's like the ghosts hate me. 01:10:46.120 --> 01:10:50.170 Because in my dreams they have threatening voices... 01:10:50.360 --> 01:10:56.163 - They laugh, but frighteningly! - Try to laugh. 01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:04.081 Anwar's nightmare, take 2. 01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:06.121 Standby. 01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:07.526 Record. 01:11:20.240 --> 01:11:24.404 I thought I killed you! 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:32.162 - What did I do wrong? - Just get up, surprised. 01:11:32.360 --> 01:11:38.641 And ask, 'Why are you alive?' What's so hard about it? 01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:49.691 I... I thought I killed you! 01:12:15.200 --> 01:12:18.443 Why am I coming to this place? 01:12:20.480 --> 01:12:27.045 Because it affected me so deeply. 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:33.771 Because the method of killing... 01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.288 ...was very different. 01:12:39.480 --> 01:12:46.284 And that's why I always have nightmares. 01:12:46.480 --> 01:12:51.480 Is it because I've been telling you my story so honestly? 01:12:59.400 --> 01:13:06.568 Or maybe the vengeance of the dead? 01:13:10.920 --> 01:13:15.403 I remember... I said 'Get out of the car'. 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:19.400 He asked, 'Where are you taking me?'. 01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:24.931 Soon, he refused to keep walking... 01:13:26.040 --> 01:13:30.887 I saw Roshiman bringing me a machete. 01:13:33.120 --> 01:13:40.481 Spontaneously I walked over to him and cut his head off. 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:46.687 My friends didn't want to look. 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:51.044 They ran back to the car. 01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:55.162 And I heard this sound... 01:13:59.480 --> 01:14:03.610 His body had fallen down... 01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:09.089 And the eyes in his head were still... 01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:26.401 On the way home, I kept thinking, why didn't I close his eyes? 01:14:26.600 --> 01:14:31.891 All I could think about was why didn't I close his eyes? 01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:37.883 And that is the source of all my nightmares... 01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:44.531 I'm always gazed at by those eyes that I didn't close. 01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:50.966 That's what always disturbs me so very much. 01:16:01.080 --> 01:16:03.890 Slit his throat! 01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:07.801 Cut off his head! 01:16:13.160 --> 01:16:15.606 Hooray! 01:16:35.240 --> 01:16:38.050 Did you take it? Is it good? 01:16:38.240 --> 01:16:40.083 - Thank you. - No, thank you, Sir. 01:16:40.280 --> 01:16:44.490 No. With such a beautiful girl? I should thank you. 01:16:47.360 --> 01:16:52.321 Too bad she bleaches her hair... Makes her look like a whore. 01:16:57.320 --> 01:16:59.891 - Tell him about the car! - What happened? 01:17:00.080 --> 01:17:02.686 There was this girl... 01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:04.962 She sucked off six men - 01:17:05.160 --> 01:17:07.731 - and not a drop of cum on the floor. 01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:10.890 - Six men? - She swallowed it all. 01:17:11.080 --> 01:17:15.085 And after the last guy finishes, she's still sucking - 01:17:15.280 --> 01:17:19.444 - like she wanted more! 01:17:26.280 --> 01:17:34.280 Dear God, make our great organization a pillar of this nation. 01:17:38.360 --> 01:17:42.410 You know the price of the land? 200 million dollars. 01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:46.610 I gave it to the birds. 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:52.690 So they have a happy life. I'm also happy. 01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:58.362 Everybody's terrified of the paramilitaries. 01:17:59.400 --> 01:18:04.201 So, when a businessman wants land where people are living... 01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:08.086 if he just pays for it, it's expensive. 01:18:08.280 --> 01:18:13.889 But we can solve his problem. 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:20.245 Because people are terrified of us, when we show up - 01:18:20.440 --> 01:18:24.923 - they say 'Just take the land. Pay what you like.' 01:18:28.240 --> 01:18:31.369 This is a rose. 01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:34.166 Very very limited. 01:18:38.320 --> 01:18:42.405 Elephant. This is very very limited. 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:48.885 I buy these from every country I visit. 01:18:50.240 --> 01:18:53.562 Hungary 2,250 dollars. 01:19:28.040 --> 01:19:32.045 You've cut off my head... 01:19:32.240 --> 01:19:37.644 You have to be furious, but also sad. 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:42.880 You have to be angry sad. Sadistic. 01:19:43.080 --> 01:19:46.084 Look at your blood! 01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:53.680 Look what I found in your stomach! 01:20:00.080 --> 01:20:05.211 Look at this! Your liver. 01:20:13.400 --> 01:20:15.846 It's rotten! 01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:10.362 Even in make-up he looks like he's from Ethiopia! 01:21:10.560 --> 01:21:16.408 - Tanzania. Like Idi Amin. - Idi Amin Dada. 01:21:21.280 --> 01:21:27.401 Camera 3 on Citra! Close up on Citra for the opening. 01:21:27.600 --> 01:21:31.730 Everybody ready? Roll the leader! 01:21:36.040 --> 01:21:40.443 Indonesian National Television 'Special Dialogue' 01:21:40.640 --> 01:21:45.328 Welcome back to Indonesian Television's Special Dialogue. 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:49.161 Today we meet movie theater gangsters who are making a film - 01:21:49.360 --> 01:21:51.488 -to commemorate the crushing of the communists. 01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:55.571 We go straight to the perpetrator and star of the film, Anwar Congo! 01:21:55.760 --> 01:21:59.082 Let's welcome Anwar Congo! 01:22:00.280 --> 01:22:04.205 In those days movie theater gangsters were very well known. 01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:07.802 What's the origin of the word 'gangster'? 01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:12.085 Actually gangster comes from 'free men'. 01:22:12.280 --> 01:22:17.446 That's why we use a special song in our movie. 01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:23.329 A song called 'Born Free.' 01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:27.127 So you brought the communists straight to your office? 01:22:27.320 --> 01:22:34.841 Yes, and after we interrogated them, and decided they shouldn't be alive- 01:22:35.040 --> 01:22:39.250 - we had to kill them. 01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:43.809 And was your method of killing inspired by gangsterfilms? 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.207 Sometimes! 01:22:46.400 --> 01:22:48.164 It's like... 01:22:48.360 --> 01:22:51.569 Amazing! He was inspired by films! 01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:57.244 Each genre had its own method. Like in mafia movies... 01:22:57.440 --> 01:23:03.891 ...they strangle the guy in the car and dump the body. 01:23:04.080 --> 01:23:06.242 So we did that too. 01:23:06.440 --> 01:23:10.525 Which means Anwar and his friends developed - 01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:14.645 - a new, more efficient system for exterminating communists. 01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:20.210 It was more humane, less sadistic, and avoided excessive violence... 01:23:20.400 --> 01:23:24.724 But you also just wiped them out! 01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:34.411 - How many people did he kill? - About 1000. 01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:38.730 How can he sleep? Isn't he haunted? 01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:42.163 - A lot of them went crazy. - Yeah. 01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:45.603 - No, they got rich. - Yeah. 01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:49.521 Rich from stealing. 01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:54.487 But killing all those people made them crazy too. 01:23:55.480 --> 01:24:01.169 But what’s the special meaning of this film for young people? 01:24:01.360 --> 01:24:07.242 Young people must remember their history. 01:24:07.440 --> 01:24:11.240 They must never forget. What's more... 01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:14.125 God must be against communists. 01:24:14.320 --> 01:24:16.766 Yes. God hates communists! 01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:20.282 That's why he's made this film so beautiful! 01:24:20.480 --> 01:24:26.647 According to General Sarwo Edhie 2.5 million communists were killed. 01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:32.165 Why haven’t the victims' children ever tried to take revenge? 01:24:32.400 --> 01:24:39.170 It's not that they don't want to take revenge. They can't! 01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:43.490 Because we'd exterminate them all! 01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:05.125 This is the only film shoot to be visited by a government minister. 01:25:05.320 --> 01:25:12.408 He's coming here just for you, to motivate and support you! 01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:15.126 You should be proud! 01:25:22.800 --> 01:25:26.327 The whole world will see this. London, England! 01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:29.410 Forget Jakarta. Jakarta is nothing! 01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.930 Wow! All the killers are here! 01:25:44.280 --> 01:25:48.080 Just improvise and express your anger. 01:25:48.280 --> 01:25:50.408 Scream, 'Crush the communists!' 01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:55.891 - Crush the communists! - Wipe them out! 01:25:56.080 --> 01:25:58.606 Okay let’s try it. 01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:03.645 Attack on Kampung Kolam. Take 1. 01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:08.811 Don't let any communists escape! 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:15.249 Kill! Kill! Kill the communists! 01:26:16.440 --> 01:26:19.728 Slaughterthem! 01:26:19.920 --> 01:26:22.366 Are you ready to attack? 01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:28.488 Take no prisoners! Destroy them all! 01:26:30.160 --> 01:26:33.403 Burn down their houses! 01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:39.767 Kill the communists! Chop them up! 01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:44.682 Exterminate them to their roots! 01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:53.362 Chop off their heads Burn them! Kill them all! 01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:57.326 Kill! Kill! 01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:09.131 Cut! Cut! Cut! 01:27:09.320 --> 01:27:16.363 Joshua and crew, now I'm speaking as a leader of Pancasila Youth. 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:23.091 What we’ve just shown is not characteristic of our organization. 01:27:23.280 --> 01:27:28.280 We shouldn't look brutal, like we want to drink people's blood. 01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:40.763 That's dangerous for our organization's image. 01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:45.443 But we must exterminate the communists. 01:27:45.640 --> 01:27:48.450 We must totally wipe them out- 01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:53.601 - but in a more humane way. 01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:58.567 What we just filmed, I felt awful... 01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:01.570 Especially with my image right in the middle of it! 01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:04.161 OK, Joshua? 01:28:04.360 --> 01:28:08.809 This is the true story That's what we all want, right? 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.685 Sure. Sure. 01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:14.121 You know, what we just filmed... 01:28:14.320 --> 01:28:19.690 Don't erase it! Use it to show how ferocious we can be! 01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:25.250 In fact, we can even be worse! 01:28:25.440 --> 01:28:31.686 So, think of it as a simulation of our rage - 01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:36.727 - if anyone disturbs our country 01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:47.122 If they're pretty I'd rape them all. 01:28:47.320 --> 01:28:54.283 Especially back then, when we were the law. 01:28:54.480 --> 01:28:55.891 Fuck 'em! 01:28:56.080 --> 01:28:59.846 Fuck the shit out of everyone I meet. 01:29:00.040 --> 01:29:04.728 Are you a communist woman? 01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:08.527 What are you hiding there? 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:11.371 That’s the spirit! 01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:16.521 Especially if you get one who's only 14 years old. 01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:18.290 Delicious! 01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:24.567 I'd say it's gonna be hell for you but heaven on earth for me. 01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:27.445 Keep struggling. 01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:30.450 No one wants to be tortured, right? 01:29:30.640 --> 01:29:33.610 If you can save yourself, you should. 01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:38.124 And if you can run away go ahead! 01:29:38.320 --> 01:29:40.448 Attention everybody! 01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.326 While you're acting, remember the cameras! 01:29:46.400 --> 01:29:50.200 Ladies, think positively 01:29:50.400 --> 01:29:53.244 if you think positively - 01:29:53.440 --> 01:29:59.322 - your acting will be great and the scene will succeed. 01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:01.568 Positive! Think positive! 01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:42.445 Kill them all! 01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:48.481 Catch him! 01:31:40.200 --> 01:31:44.649 Cut! Cut! Cut! 01:31:48.760 --> 01:31:51.764 Bakti! Bring water! 01:32:10.480 --> 01:32:14.485 Let her rest. 01:32:40.760 --> 01:32:46.927 Febby your acting was great. But stop crying. 01:32:48.160 --> 01:32:54.725 You're embarassing me. Film stars only cry for a moment. 01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:06.840 What I regret... Honestly I never expected it would look this awful. 01:33:14.400 --> 01:33:19.440 My friends kept telling me to act more sadistic - 01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:25.124 - but then I saw the women and children. 01:33:27.360 --> 01:33:30.443 Imagine those children's future. 01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:33.007 They've been tortured... 01:33:33.200 --> 01:33:36.283 Now their houses will be burned down... 01:33:36.480 --> 01:33:40.201 What future do they have? 01:33:41.240 --> 01:33:46.201 They will curse us for the rest of their lives. 01:33:46.400 --> 01:33:49.927 This was so very very very.. 01:34:54.160 --> 01:34:56.731 When you say 'karma'... 01:34:56.920 --> 01:35:01.448 What does it mean for you? What are you afraid of? 01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:10.920 Karma is like a law of nature. 01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:19.522 A law straight from God. 01:35:26.240 --> 01:35:29.369 Imagine, in all this darkness - 01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:36.364 - it's like we're living at the end of the world. 01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:41.963 We look around... There's only darkness. 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:48.962 It's so very terrifying. 01:36:17.240 --> 01:36:22.883 Hit the table. To frighten me. 01:36:23.080 --> 01:36:27.244 Start by hitting the table. Hard. 01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:45.850 Trying to ban American films in Indonesia? 01:36:46.040 --> 01:36:49.249 What are you trying to do? 01:36:51.080 --> 01:36:53.003 Shut up! 01:36:53.200 --> 01:36:57.285 - What are you trying to do? - Please, sir.. 01:36:57.480 --> 01:37:01.963 Don't get friendly with me! We're not friends! 01:37:02.160 --> 01:37:04.367 Answer the questions! 01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:09.521 Hurry up or I'll break your legs! 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:13.042 Dana, ask! 01:37:13.240 --> 01:37:17.245 Besides Titi Kuning, where else are you active? 01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:21.809 - Hamparan Perak. - A real big communist. 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:26.565 Quick! Don't waste our time! 01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:31.808 Lift up your hand or I'll cut it off. 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:36.324 Hey look! Gold! 01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:40.889 Take off your watch. 01:37:41.080 --> 01:37:45.290 Put it on the table. What else do you have? 01:37:45.480 --> 01:37:48.927 A ring? Gold? 01:37:49.120 --> 01:37:53.045 Talk or I cut your face. 01:37:53.240 --> 01:37:57.211 - Talk. - Tell us everything! 01:37:57.400 --> 01:38:02.930 - Please, don't... - I won't, but you talk! 01:38:03.120 --> 01:38:06.169 Talk... 01:38:07.120 --> 01:38:09.407 Cut. 01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:28.291 Okay let's do it. 01:38:41.440 --> 01:38:49.440 I place this medal around your neck. 01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:40.329 - Are you alright? - I can't do that again. 01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:07.731 Get him some water. 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:15.645 Have some water. 01:40:54.360 --> 01:40:59.764 We shoved wood in their anus until they died. 01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:04.925 We crushed their necks with wood. We hung them. 01:41:05.120 --> 01:41:09.842 We strangled them with wire. We cut off their heads. 01:41:10.040 --> 01:41:13.010 We ran them over with cars. 01:41:16.760 --> 01:41:18.922 We were allowed to do it. 01:41:19.160 --> 01:41:24.246 And the proof is, we murdered people and were never punished. 01:41:30.360 --> 01:41:34.160 The people we killed... There's nothing to be done about it. 01:41:34.360 --> 01:41:37.443 They have to accept it. 01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:42.886 Maybel Im just trying to make myself feel better but it works: 01:41:43.080 --> 01:41:48.166 I've never felt guilty, never been depressed, never had nightmares. 01:43:06.680 --> 01:43:14.680 For executing me and sending me to heaven. 01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:20.927 I thank you a thousand times, for everything. 01:43:52.240 --> 01:43:56.006 This is great, Joshua. This is very good. 01:43:56.200 --> 01:44:02.048 I never imagined I could make something so great. 01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:07.327 One thing that makes me so proud - 01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:11.650 - is how the waterfall expresses such deep feelings! 01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:23.451 You know the scene where I'm strangled with wire? 01:44:25.840 --> 01:44:29.128 - Do you have it here? - Where you're strangled? 01:44:29.320 --> 01:44:31.971 Please put it on. 01:44:37.320 --> 01:44:39.322 Yan? 01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:43.206 I want him to watch this... 01:44:49.440 --> 01:44:53.331 - Yan? - He's in bed. 01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:59.522 Yan, watch the scene where grandpa is tortured and killed. 01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:04.362 Ami, come see grandpa beaten up and bleeding. 01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:06.608 But this is too violent. 01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:10.600 Watch this. Grandpa gets beaten up. 01:45:12.080 --> 01:45:14.447 Turn up the volume. 01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:18.167 But this is too violent, Anwar Are you sure? 01:45:18.360 --> 01:45:20.966 Yes, it's fine. Will you be scared, Yan? 01:45:27.320 --> 01:45:31.245 This is only a film... Look at that. 01:45:31.960 --> 01:45:36.887 Grandpa looks so sad, doesn't he, Yan? 01:45:37.080 --> 01:45:39.447 So scary 01:45:40.480 --> 01:45:45.361 it's so sad, isn't it? That's your grandpa. 01:45:46.440 --> 01:45:51.890 That's grandpa being beaten up by the fat guy. 01:45:52.080 --> 01:45:55.129 Grandpa's head is smashed. 01:46:32.600 --> 01:46:37.600 Did the people I tortured feel the way I do here? 01:46:48.280 --> 01:46:52.569 I can feel what the people I tortured felt. 01:46:52.760 --> 01:47:00.760 Because here my dignity has been destroyed... 01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:05.645 ...and then fear comes, right there and then. 01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:10.926 All the terror suddenly possessed my body 01:47:11.120 --> 01:47:15.808 it surrounded me, and possessed me. 01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:23.081 Actually the people you tortured felt far worse- 01:47:23.280 --> 01:47:28.286 - because you know it's only a film. They knew they were being killed. 01:47:31.680 --> 01:47:35.685 But I can feel it, Josh. Really I feel it. 01:47:35.880 --> 01:47:41.364 Or have I sinned? 01:47:46.040 --> 01:47:50.602 I did this to so many people, Josh. 01:47:52.320 --> 01:47:56.245 Is it all coming back to me? 01:48:02.400 --> 01:48:09.284 I really hope it won't. I don't want it to, Josh. 01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:23.640 This is where we tortured and killed the people we captured. 01:49:46.840 --> 01:49:49.684 I know it was wrong - 01:49:50.320 --> 01:49:54.041 - but I had to do it. 01:51:03.480 --> 01:51:06.609 This is... 01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:15.166 This is one of the easiest ways to take a human life. 01:51:19.120 --> 01:51:21.566 And this... 01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:27.961 This was used to take away.. 01:51:31.200 --> 01:51:34.647 ...the human beings we killed. 01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:37.684 Because without this... 01:51:39.080 --> 01:51:43.051 ...maybe people would know.