...Right? Be aware of that. So when you're doing it, when you're not conscious about it, what you're doing is you're grasping it. Your deep insides are saying, "I hate this." Very quietly, but "I hate." But if you're conscious of it, in that moment, you look at a famous person, you look at them from a place of openness. You have to look at the image, because the image is where you're storing that information and emotion. You look, but you're trying to look from a different place You're reprogramming it you're restructuring it. You are healing the relationship. So if you look with that openness to that same image, At some point that image will have different meaning for you. It will not carry the same meaning. If you look at it in your own body, if you look at it in your health, probably the same thing You know, wherever the cells are in your body producing a kind of disease, like a cancerous cell, if you look at that, if you're being aware of that in your body aware of yourself, the whole aspect of yourself, it will begin to give different information to the rest of your body. And therefore, that information helps begin to restructure your biological conditions. It is what we believe, how to understand it's going to happen to the body. Reproduction of cells, like cancerous cells, the same principle. That's how the cancerous cell knows how to reproduce the cancerous cell. It will do wonderful thing if it forgets one day. And it's producing some new cell. Probably that's what happens if the deep pattern of identity it shifts something inside you It shifts what it brings in the body. So the principle here is the power of openness and awareness is able to change things in our body, able to change the way we identify ourselves, it's able to change the way we relate to the world, it's able to change everything. That's why it's called vision, it's able to cut those things. So that's a bit of explanation. Any questions? I'm happy to see that many European people are staying up really late. They are participating with us. So any questions? Do you think that in openness, there's a possibility to maintain curiosity? Curiosity? Yeah, and there is some degree of curiosity in ourselves. And there's also curiosity on some survival level, you know I'm curious to know what I need, and so on. Curiosity has a lot of playfulness, and you cannot have playfulness if you're not open to it. What we use, what we say, we are serious. That's what happens in a relationship, when people are very serious in a relationship, that is the beginning of divorce. [laughs] They are curious about each other? Yes. Too curious about each other. They are not that curious, they are very open to each other, that doesn't mean loyalty and things like that. There's some sort of sense of openness and that brings a lot of playfulness. I was in a place in a country where people are usually serious, and I was making a little joke, saying, "How are you going to be a little more playful here?" So how are you going to be a little more playful? Of course, first thing, you kind of have to go inside yourself, wherever this seriousness is stuck. You have to go to that place inside and loosen that up. You have to feel some confidence. I think that confidence is clearly a key to be playful. So if you're confident that you can be a bit more playful, if you're playful you can have humor, and you can have curiosity in a good way. If whatever you're curious about is not showing up, you're curious why it's not showing up! Rather than feeling pain that it's not showing up. You're open to every direction. So yes, I don't think openness prevents anything. Openness makes life richer not poorer. Openness is the source of knowledge, more than the knowledge we conceptually know. There was a study in Netherlands about these executive people making big decisions about a big company. The research was based on, did they make a better decision when they're taught alot? Or did they make a better decision when they didn't think much? The conclusion was, they made a much better decision when they didn't think much. So of course, people who think a lot, they believe we have to think. we have to think to not to think. But, some sense of these practices call for a direct path. Direct path means you don't have to think about it. You can just be aware of it. Any other questions? We have a group of people in Brazil who we've met with before, they're asking, "Please, what do you mean by the essence of sky?" [laughs] [he repeats the question.] First, when I say essence, the sense or meaning of essence is "the truth" the truth of the sky, the truth of the phenomena, the truth of the mind. So in some sense, the essence of sky I mean, the truth of the sky. So what is the truth of the sky? It's that boundlessness. When I'm gazing the sky and I'm aware of that boundlessness, because the sky is boundless. When I'm aware of that, it's something deep. Psychologically it does something to me inside. I feel that boundlessness. But when I'm looking at the sky I have to be aware that that's what I'm feeling. That's what I'm seeing, that's what I'm experiencing, that's what I'm aware of. Very often people will not be aware of it. I gave one example where people were doing a sky gazing practice in New Mexico. Everybody was having this wonderful experience! But one guy was getting really agitated about it. He looked around, and it seemed like everyone seems like they were having a good time. He's wondering why they're having a good time and he's looking up at the empty sky And he said, "What am I supposed to see?" [laughs] Well, he's not seeing the essence of the sky. He's not seeing the boundlessness of the sky. He's expecting some stuff to show up right in front of him, what he would desire. So that's what I mean. I saw a cartoon in New York Times one time, there was this wall street person, and he's in Tibet with all the hiking shoes and all those things, and really getting up in the mountain. And on top of the mountain he sees a clear vision of himself; Not with the hiking shoes. He sees himself with the suit and tie and breathless with this pure vision. So, no matter where you go, you might see your impure visions you're not even able to see what you're seeing. You're only seeing what you're wanting to see. Yeah. [asking question] This is somewhat related. Kelly is in Vietnam right now, and she's watching the broadcast. She says, "Here in Vietnam I'm more lonely than I was even in the dark retreat Everything truly appears to be illusion. How can I keep myself connected when there are so few supports?" It seems like she's in a place where she's lacking support. Sure. Well, you know, the opportunity for you to be completely open to the lonely person in you. So that basically means what we were saying earlier when we said, "It really hurts me. I really feel lonely, I really feel lonely." And probably that sense of loneliness, probably everybody feels it. At some times we have to go so far away to feel it really strong. So when you feel it really strong, you have the opportunity to to know that. And to know that will be fully open to that and when you're fully open to that, it will go away. When it goes away, the voice saying, "I'm lonely," and the energy bringing a sense of loneliness, and the one who's thinking, "I'm far away," or "I'm thinking maybe to move away," Out of all those voices and cards and the way you relate to yourself, all those somehow are like a cloud. The way you let them go away is by being fully aware and connect. Connect with them, so it's like a loving mother sending this love to this napping child. So radiate the love and attention with your open awareness to that lonely experience in yourself. That awareness, when you open to that, it will help. It will dissolve. And when it dissolves, you come to a place where you don't feel that loneliness. So you need to become familiar with that place where you don't feel familiar. The question is, how do you get to that place where you can feel "it's okay." So that's what I was saying earlier that pain body. The principle is the same. And we all, right now with the internet, you're not lonely, you know? Everybody's together. Yes? [questioner:] Could you comment on the role of medical diagnosis when one experiences certain aches and pains? Does seeking that diagnostic action from a Western medical practitioner, is that a way of staying attached to the story of the pain rather than being with it and allowing it to disappear? Well, I think in the West, all the doctors are trained to tell some sense of truth. So people say, "Okay you only have five months to live," or something like that. So if somebody has 5 months to live, do they really need to know that? I mean, how important is it for a doctor to tell you you have 5 months to live? From my point of view, I don't think it's that important. If you have some suggestion about what you can do to do something, so somehow the way people... bring this kind of energy, there's a sense of harshness. Maybe not a lack of compassion, but maybe it feels like a lack of compassion and attention because there's so much time pressure of so many patients he needs to see So, the point is, when somebody labels themselves as something, or "now I am this," I think it's terrible for sure. So how you don't do that? Again, You have to try to be open. If you're not identifying with being something else, why do you have to identify with being sick? You're sick maybe, but you don't have to identify with that. You know, last moment of breath for a woman, you can live with full sense of joy, no matter how sick you are or how much pain you have, that awareness, that joy, that openness, it doesn't take away. But again, the point is how we can feel confidence to know that is the case. To even attempt to try, that have glimpse of experience. It's true, and people do have those trusts in themselves to not be influenced by those labels. For sure it's a challenge The question is practice.