1 00:00:00,944 --> 00:00:02,842 I remember when I first found out 2 00:00:02,866 --> 00:00:04,905 I was going to speak at a TED conference. 3 00:00:04,929 --> 00:00:07,040 I ran across the hall to one of my classrooms 4 00:00:07,064 --> 00:00:08,493 to inform my students. 5 00:00:08,517 --> 00:00:09,765 "Guess what, guys? 6 00:00:09,789 --> 00:00:11,867 I've been asked to give a TED Talk." 7 00:00:11,891 --> 00:00:13,922 The reaction wasn't one I quite expected. 8 00:00:13,946 --> 00:00:15,404 The whole room went silent. 9 00:00:17,134 --> 00:00:20,094 "A TED Talk? You mean, like the one you made us watch on grit? 10 00:00:20,118 --> 00:00:23,813 Or the one with the scientist that did this really awesome thing with robots?" 11 00:00:23,837 --> 00:00:25,003 Muhammad asked. 12 00:00:25,027 --> 00:00:26,448 "Yes, just like that." 13 00:00:27,137 --> 00:00:30,071 "But Coach, those people are really important and smart." 14 00:00:30,095 --> 00:00:32,172 (Laughter) 15 00:00:32,196 --> 00:00:33,518 "I know that." 16 00:00:34,793 --> 00:00:38,510 "But Coach, why are you speaking? You hate public speaking." 17 00:00:39,071 --> 00:00:40,580 "I do," I admitted, 18 00:00:42,334 --> 00:00:45,933 "But it's important that I speak about us, that I speak about your journeys, 19 00:00:45,957 --> 00:00:47,116 about my journey. 20 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:48,409 People need to know." 21 00:00:49,098 --> 00:00:51,811 The students at the all-refugee school that I founded 22 00:00:51,835 --> 00:00:54,227 decided to end with some words of encouragement. 23 00:00:54,251 --> 00:00:56,070 "Cool! It better be good, Coach." 24 00:00:56,094 --> 00:00:58,794 (Laughter) 25 00:00:58,818 --> 00:01:02,376 There are 65.3 million people who have been forcibly displaced 26 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,948 from their homes because of war or persecution. 27 00:01:06,035 --> 00:01:09,018 The largest number, 11 million, are from Syria. 28 00:01:09,963 --> 00:01:14,322 33,952 people flee their homes daily. 29 00:01:16,846 --> 00:01:20,044 The vast majority remain in refugee camps, 30 00:01:20,068 --> 00:01:24,093 whose conditions cannot be defined as humane under anyone's definition. 31 00:01:24,686 --> 00:01:29,036 We are participating in the degradation of humans. 32 00:01:32,750 --> 00:01:34,531 Never have we had numbers this high. 33 00:01:34,555 --> 00:01:37,676 This is the highest number of refugees since World War II. 34 00:01:38,415 --> 00:01:41,187 Now, let me tell you why this issue is so important to me. 35 00:01:42,144 --> 00:01:44,894 I am an Arab. I am an immigrant. 36 00:01:46,024 --> 00:01:47,291 I am a Muslim. 37 00:01:48,006 --> 00:01:51,780 I've also spent the last 12 years of my life working with refugees. 38 00:01:51,804 --> 00:01:53,246 Oh -- and I'm also gay. 39 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:55,170 It makes me really popular these days. 40 00:01:55,194 --> 00:01:57,085 (Laughter) 41 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:59,053 But I am the daughter of a refugee. 42 00:02:00,056 --> 00:02:04,554 My grandmother fled Syria in 1964 during the first Assad regime. 43 00:02:04,578 --> 00:02:08,025 She was three months pregnant when she packed up a suitcase, 44 00:02:08,049 --> 00:02:11,143 piled in her five children and drove to neighboring Jordan, 45 00:02:11,167 --> 00:02:14,179 not knowing what the future held for her and her family. 46 00:02:14,203 --> 00:02:17,840 My grandfather decided to stay, not believing it was that bad. 47 00:02:18,562 --> 00:02:22,036 He followed her a month later, after his brothers were tortured 48 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:24,489 and his factory was taken over by the government. 49 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:27,233 They rebuilt their lives starting from scratch 50 00:02:27,257 --> 00:02:30,532 and eventually became independently wealthy Jordanian citizens. 51 00:02:31,969 --> 00:02:34,462 I was born in Jordan 11 years later. 52 00:02:35,431 --> 00:02:38,741 It was really important to my grandmother for us to know our history 53 00:02:38,765 --> 00:02:39,919 and our journey. 54 00:02:40,883 --> 00:02:44,500 I was eight years old when she took me to visit my first refugee camp. 55 00:02:44,524 --> 00:02:45,964 I didn't understand why. 56 00:02:46,636 --> 00:02:48,767 I didn't know why it was so important to her 57 00:02:48,791 --> 00:02:50,241 for us to go. 58 00:02:50,265 --> 00:02:53,204 I remember walking into the camp holding her hand, 59 00:02:53,228 --> 00:02:55,197 and her saying, "Go play with the kids," 60 00:02:55,221 --> 00:02:57,724 while she visited with the women in the camp. 61 00:02:58,606 --> 00:02:59,818 I didn't want to. 62 00:02:59,842 --> 00:03:01,258 These kids weren't like me. 63 00:03:01,282 --> 00:03:03,060 They were poor. They lived in a camp. 64 00:03:03,084 --> 00:03:04,424 I refused. 65 00:03:04,448 --> 00:03:07,414 She knelt down beside me and firmly said, "Go. 66 00:03:07,438 --> 00:03:09,592 And don't come back until you've played. 67 00:03:09,616 --> 00:03:11,656 Don't ever think people are beneath you 68 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,979 or that you have nothing to learn from others." 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,969 I reluctantly went. 70 00:03:15,993 --> 00:03:18,281 I never wanted to disappoint my grandmother. 71 00:03:19,475 --> 00:03:20,872 I returned a few hours later, 72 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:25,526 having spent some time playing soccer with the kids in the camp. 73 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:27,316 We walked out of the camp, 74 00:03:27,340 --> 00:03:30,035 and I was excitedly telling her what a great time I had 75 00:03:30,059 --> 00:03:31,990 and how fantastic the kids were. 76 00:03:33,175 --> 00:03:35,855 "Haram!" I said in Arabic. "Poor them." 77 00:03:36,648 --> 00:03:39,735 "Haram on us," she said, using the word's different meaning, 78 00:03:39,759 --> 00:03:41,092 that we were sinning. 79 00:03:42,002 --> 00:03:44,375 "Don't feel sorry for them; believe in them." 80 00:03:46,351 --> 00:03:49,770 It wasn't until I left my country of origin for the United States 81 00:03:49,794 --> 00:03:51,806 that I realized the impact of her words. 82 00:03:53,187 --> 00:03:56,861 After my college graduation, I applied for and was granted political asylum, 83 00:03:56,885 --> 00:03:58,977 based on being a member of a social group. 84 00:03:59,710 --> 00:04:01,400 Some people may not realize this, 85 00:04:01,424 --> 00:04:05,090 but you can still get the death penalty in some countries for being gay. 86 00:04:07,077 --> 00:04:09,121 I had to give up my Jordanian citizenship. 87 00:04:09,145 --> 00:04:11,594 That was the hardest decision I've ever had to make, 88 00:04:11,618 --> 00:04:12,998 but I had no other choice. 89 00:04:17,387 --> 00:04:18,630 The point is, 90 00:04:19,506 --> 00:04:22,582 when you find yourself choosing between home and survival, 91 00:04:22,606 --> 00:04:25,438 the question "Where are you from?" becomes very loaded. 92 00:04:26,772 --> 00:04:30,039 A Syrian woman who I recently met at a refugee camp in Greece 93 00:04:30,063 --> 00:04:31,331 articulated it best, 94 00:04:31,355 --> 00:04:34,925 when she recalled the exact moment she realized she had to flee Aleppo. 95 00:04:35,277 --> 00:04:37,535 "I looked out the window and there was nothing. 96 00:04:37,559 --> 00:04:38,918 It was all rubble. 97 00:04:39,593 --> 00:04:43,385 There were no stores, no streets, no schools. Everything was gone. 98 00:04:44,006 --> 00:04:46,053 I had been in my apartment for months, 99 00:04:46,077 --> 00:04:49,147 listening to bombs drop and watching people die. 100 00:04:49,771 --> 00:04:51,834 But I always thought it would get better, 101 00:04:53,028 --> 00:04:55,102 that no one could force me to leave, 102 00:04:55,126 --> 00:04:57,168 no one could take my home away from me. 103 00:04:57,795 --> 00:05:01,067 And I don't know why it was that morning, but when I looked outside, 104 00:05:01,091 --> 00:05:04,229 I realized if I didn't leave, my three young children would die. 105 00:05:04,253 --> 00:05:05,642 And so we left. 106 00:05:05,666 --> 00:05:08,670 We left because we had to, not because we wanted to. 107 00:05:08,694 --> 00:05:10,442 There was no choice," she said. 108 00:05:11,978 --> 00:05:14,256 It's kind of hard to believe that you belong 109 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:15,744 when you don't have a home, 110 00:05:15,768 --> 00:05:19,774 when your country of origin rejects you because of fear or persecution, 111 00:05:19,798 --> 00:05:23,702 or the city that you grew up in is completely destroyed. 112 00:05:24,805 --> 00:05:26,836 I didn't feel like I had a home. 113 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:29,317 I was no longer a Jordanian citizen, 114 00:05:29,341 --> 00:05:30,973 but I wasn't American, either. 115 00:05:31,643 --> 00:05:33,381 I felt a kind of loneliness 116 00:05:33,405 --> 00:05:35,524 that is still hard to put into words today. 117 00:05:36,781 --> 00:05:40,064 After college, I desperately needed to find a place to call home. 118 00:05:40,546 --> 00:05:42,262 I bounced around from state to state 119 00:05:42,286 --> 00:05:44,721 and eventually ended up in North Carolina. 120 00:05:44,745 --> 00:05:46,870 Kindhearted people who felt sorry for me 121 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:48,747 offered to pay rent 122 00:05:49,405 --> 00:05:52,719 or buy me a meal or a suit for my new interview. 123 00:05:52,743 --> 00:05:55,766 It just made me feel more isolated and incapable. 124 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:58,295 It wasn't until I met Miss Sarah, 125 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:02,055 a Southern Baptist who took me in at my lowest and gave me a job, 126 00:06:02,079 --> 00:06:03,972 that I started to believe in myself. 127 00:06:04,695 --> 00:06:08,492 Miss Sarah owned a diner in the mountains of North Carolina. 128 00:06:09,856 --> 00:06:12,025 I assumed, because of my privileged upbringing 129 00:06:12,049 --> 00:06:13,568 and my Seven Sister education, 130 00:06:13,592 --> 00:06:15,796 that she would ask me to manage the restaurant. 131 00:06:15,820 --> 00:06:17,028 I was wrong. 132 00:06:17,972 --> 00:06:19,675 I started off washing dishes, 133 00:06:19,699 --> 00:06:21,678 cleaning toilets and working the grill. 134 00:06:22,247 --> 00:06:25,332 I was humbled; I was shown the value of hard work. 135 00:06:25,356 --> 00:06:27,966 But most importantly, I felt valued and embraced. 136 00:06:28,924 --> 00:06:30,804 I celebrated Christmas with her family, 137 00:06:30,828 --> 00:06:33,180 and she attempted to observe Ramadan with me. 138 00:06:34,236 --> 00:06:36,906 I remember being very nervous about coming out to her -- 139 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:38,972 after all, she was a Southern Baptist. 140 00:06:38,996 --> 00:06:40,456 I sat on the couch next to her 141 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,011 and I said, "Miss Sarah, you know that I'm gay." 142 00:06:43,035 --> 00:06:45,221 Her response is one that I will never forget. 143 00:06:45,715 --> 00:06:47,914 "That's fine, honey. Just don't be a slut." 144 00:06:47,938 --> 00:06:51,110 (Laughter) 145 00:06:51,134 --> 00:06:53,809 (Applause) 146 00:06:53,833 --> 00:06:59,745 I eventually moved to Atlanta, still trying to find my home. 147 00:07:00,261 --> 00:07:02,640 My journey took a strange turn three years later, 148 00:07:02,664 --> 00:07:05,897 after I met a group of refugee kids playing soccer outside. 149 00:07:06,318 --> 00:07:08,858 I'd made a wrong turn into this apartment complex, 150 00:07:08,882 --> 00:07:11,097 and I saw these kids outside playing soccer. 151 00:07:11,496 --> 00:07:14,059 They were playing barefoot with a raggedy soccer ball 152 00:07:14,083 --> 00:07:15,535 and rocks set up as goals. 153 00:07:15,559 --> 00:07:17,259 I watched them for about an hour, 154 00:07:17,283 --> 00:07:18,861 and after that I was smiling. 155 00:07:19,296 --> 00:07:20,883 The boys reminded me of home. 156 00:07:21,368 --> 00:07:23,846 They reminded me of the way I grew up playing soccer 157 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:26,500 in the streets of Jordan, with my brothers and cousins. 158 00:07:27,792 --> 00:07:29,793 I eventually joined their game. 159 00:07:29,817 --> 00:07:32,660 They were a little skeptical about letting me join it, 160 00:07:32,684 --> 00:07:35,346 because according to them, girls don't know how to play. 161 00:07:35,370 --> 00:07:36,716 But obviously I did. 162 00:07:36,740 --> 00:07:38,984 I asked them if they had ever played on a team. 163 00:07:39,008 --> 00:07:41,442 They said they hadn't, but that they would love to. 164 00:07:41,931 --> 00:07:44,952 I gradually won them over, and we formed our first team. 165 00:07:45,851 --> 00:07:50,735 This group of kids would give me a crash course in refugees, poverty 166 00:07:51,997 --> 00:07:53,229 and humanity. 167 00:07:54,375 --> 00:07:57,930 Three brothers from Afghanistan -- Roohullah, Noorullah and Zabiullah -- 168 00:07:57,954 --> 00:07:59,578 played a major role in that. 169 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:03,948 I showed up late to practice one day to find the field completely deserted. 170 00:08:03,972 --> 00:08:05,153 I was really worried. 171 00:08:05,177 --> 00:08:06,788 My team loved to practice. 172 00:08:06,812 --> 00:08:09,419 It wasn't like them to miss practice. 173 00:08:09,443 --> 00:08:12,531 I got out of my car, and two kids ran out from behind a dumpster, 174 00:08:12,555 --> 00:08:14,138 waving their hands frantically. 175 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:17,142 "Coach, Rooh got beat up. He got jumped. 176 00:08:17,166 --> 00:08:18,744 There was blood everywhere." 177 00:08:18,768 --> 00:08:21,223 "What do you mean? What do you mean he got beat up?" 178 00:08:21,247 --> 00:08:23,320 "These bad kids came and beat him up, Coach. 179 00:08:23,344 --> 00:08:25,570 Everybody left. They were all scared." 180 00:08:25,594 --> 00:08:28,312 We hopped into my car and drove over to Rooh's apartment. 181 00:08:28,336 --> 00:08:30,835 I knocked on the door, and Noor opened it. 182 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:34,341 "Where's Rooh? I need to talk to him, see if he's OK." 183 00:08:34,365 --> 00:08:37,301 "He's in his room, Coach. He's refusing to come out." 184 00:08:37,325 --> 00:08:38,492 I knocked on the door. 185 00:08:38,516 --> 00:08:40,942 "Rooh, come on out. I need to talk to you. 186 00:08:40,966 --> 00:08:44,017 I need to see if you're OK or if we need to go to the hospital." 187 00:08:44,041 --> 00:08:45,192 He came out. 188 00:08:45,216 --> 00:08:47,478 He had a big gash on his head, a split lip, 189 00:08:48,019 --> 00:08:49,770 and he was physically shaken. 190 00:08:50,514 --> 00:08:51,847 I was looking at him, 191 00:08:51,871 --> 00:08:54,430 and I asked the boys to call for their mom, 192 00:08:54,454 --> 00:08:56,866 because I needed to go to the hospital with him. 193 00:08:56,890 --> 00:08:58,197 They called for their mom. 194 00:08:58,608 --> 00:08:59,800 She came out. 195 00:09:00,239 --> 00:09:03,818 I had my back turned to her, and she started screaming in Farsi. 196 00:09:04,577 --> 00:09:06,652 The boys fell to the ground laughing. 197 00:09:06,676 --> 00:09:07,828 I was very confused, 198 00:09:07,852 --> 00:09:09,926 because there was nothing funny about this. 199 00:09:10,390 --> 00:09:12,390 They explained to me that she said, 200 00:09:12,414 --> 00:09:15,228 "You told me your coach was a Muslim and a woman." 201 00:09:15,252 --> 00:09:17,621 From behind, I didn't appear to be either to her. 202 00:09:17,645 --> 00:09:21,278 (Laughter) 203 00:09:21,302 --> 00:09:23,538 "I am Muslim," I said, turning to her. 204 00:09:23,562 --> 00:09:25,493 "Ašhadu ʾan lā ʾilāha ʾilla (A)llāh," 205 00:09:25,517 --> 00:09:27,886 reciting the Muslim declaration of faith. 206 00:09:28,587 --> 00:09:29,891 Confused, 207 00:09:31,208 --> 00:09:33,198 and perhaps maybe a little bit reassured, 208 00:09:33,222 --> 00:09:34,377 she realized that yes, 209 00:09:34,401 --> 00:09:37,692 I, this American-acting, shorts-wearing, non-veiled woman, 210 00:09:37,716 --> 00:09:38,906 was indeed a Muslim. 211 00:09:40,166 --> 00:09:42,116 Their family had fled the Taliban. 212 00:09:43,687 --> 00:09:45,391 Hundreds of people in their village 213 00:09:45,415 --> 00:09:46,661 were murdered. 214 00:09:46,685 --> 00:09:48,898 Their father was taken in by the Taliban, 215 00:09:48,922 --> 00:09:52,723 only to return a few months later, a shell of the man he once was. 216 00:09:54,738 --> 00:09:57,149 The family escaped to Pakistan, 217 00:09:57,173 --> 00:10:00,741 and the two older boys, age eight and 10 at the time, 218 00:10:00,765 --> 00:10:04,002 wove rugs for 10 hours a day to provide for their family. 219 00:10:04,926 --> 00:10:08,683 They were so excited when they found out that they had been approved 220 00:10:08,707 --> 00:10:11,199 to resettle in the United States, 221 00:10:11,223 --> 00:10:14,476 making them the lucky 0.1 percent who get to do that. 222 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:16,090 They had hit the jackpot. 223 00:10:16,930 --> 00:10:18,500 Their story is not unique. 224 00:10:19,085 --> 00:10:22,993 Every refugee family I have worked with has had some version of this. 225 00:10:23,017 --> 00:10:24,357 I work with kids 226 00:10:25,206 --> 00:10:29,065 who have seen their mothers raped, their fathers' fingers sliced off. 227 00:10:29,089 --> 00:10:32,044 One kid saw a bullet put in his grandmother's head, 228 00:10:32,068 --> 00:10:36,106 because she refused to let the rebels take him to be a child soldier. 229 00:10:37,943 --> 00:10:39,484 Their journeys are haunting. 230 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:45,714 But what I get to see every day is hope, resilience, determination, 231 00:10:45,738 --> 00:10:46,923 a love of life 232 00:10:46,947 --> 00:10:49,791 and appreciation for being able to rebuild their lives. 233 00:10:51,607 --> 00:10:53,732 I was at the boys' apartment one night, 234 00:10:53,756 --> 00:10:58,566 when the mom came home after cleaning 18 hotel rooms in one day. 235 00:10:58,590 --> 00:11:00,883 She sat down, and Noor rubbed her feet, 236 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,754 saying that he was going to take care of her once he graduated. 237 00:11:04,778 --> 00:11:06,272 She smiled from exhaustion. 238 00:11:06,296 --> 00:11:09,704 "God is good. Life is good. We are lucky to be here." 239 00:11:11,001 --> 00:11:15,796 In the last two years, we have seen an escalating anti-refugee sentiment. 240 00:11:16,219 --> 00:11:17,438 It's global. 241 00:11:18,579 --> 00:11:21,823 The numbers continue to grow because we do nothing to prevent it 242 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:23,548 and nothing to stop it. 243 00:11:23,572 --> 00:11:27,124 The issue shouldn't be stopping refugees from coming into our countries. 244 00:11:27,148 --> 00:11:30,136 The issue should be not forcing them to leave their own. 245 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,595 (Applause) 246 00:11:46,510 --> 00:11:47,835 Sorry. 247 00:11:47,859 --> 00:11:51,787 (Applause) 248 00:11:57,917 --> 00:12:00,442 How much more suffering, 249 00:12:00,466 --> 00:12:02,511 how much more suffering must we take? 250 00:12:03,255 --> 00:12:06,026 How many more people need to be forced out of their homes 251 00:12:06,050 --> 00:12:07,431 before we say, "Enough!"? 252 00:12:07,455 --> 00:12:08,664 A hundred million? 253 00:12:09,125 --> 00:12:11,951 Not only do we shame, blame and reject them 254 00:12:13,245 --> 00:12:16,078 for atrocities that they had absolutely nothing to do with, 255 00:12:17,012 --> 00:12:18,167 we re-traumatize them, 256 00:12:18,191 --> 00:12:21,156 when we're supposed to be welcoming them into our countries. 257 00:12:23,291 --> 00:12:26,594 We strip them of their dignity and treat them like criminals. 258 00:12:26,618 --> 00:12:29,324 I had a student in my office a couple of weeks ago. 259 00:12:29,348 --> 00:12:31,164 She's originally from Iraq. 260 00:12:31,188 --> 00:12:32,627 She broke down crying. 261 00:12:33,595 --> 00:12:35,223 "Why do they hate us?" 262 00:12:35,247 --> 00:12:36,421 "Who hates you?" 263 00:12:36,445 --> 00:12:39,216 "Everyone; everyone hates us because we are refugees, 264 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,596 because we are Muslim." 265 00:12:42,019 --> 00:12:44,355 In the past, I was able to reassure my students 266 00:12:44,379 --> 00:12:47,016 that the majority of the world does not hate refugees. 267 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,425 But this time I couldn't. 268 00:12:48,868 --> 00:12:52,348 I couldn't explain to her why someone tried to rip off her mother's hijab 269 00:12:52,372 --> 00:12:54,157 when they were grocery shopping, 270 00:12:54,181 --> 00:12:57,425 or why a player on an opposing team called her a terrorist 271 00:12:57,449 --> 00:12:59,932 and told her to go back where she came from. 272 00:12:59,956 --> 00:13:01,718 I couldn't reassure her 273 00:13:01,742 --> 00:13:04,081 that her father's ultimate life sacrifice 274 00:13:04,105 --> 00:13:07,225 by serving in the United States military as an interpreter 275 00:13:07,249 --> 00:13:09,959 would make her more valued as an American citizen. 276 00:13:11,051 --> 00:13:13,923 We take in so few refugees worldwide. 277 00:13:14,949 --> 00:13:17,635 We resettle less than 0.1 percent. 278 00:13:18,778 --> 00:13:21,978 That 0.1 percent benefits us more than them. 279 00:13:22,797 --> 00:13:26,583 It dumbfounds me how the word "refugee" is considered something to be dirty, 280 00:13:26,607 --> 00:13:28,220 something to be ashamed of. 281 00:13:28,244 --> 00:13:30,108 They have nothing to be ashamed of. 282 00:13:33,827 --> 00:13:36,550 We have seen advances in every aspect of our lives -- 283 00:13:36,574 --> 00:13:37,952 except our humanity. 284 00:13:38,523 --> 00:13:42,962 There are 65.3 million people who have been forced out of their homes 285 00:13:42,986 --> 00:13:44,230 because of war -- 286 00:13:44,685 --> 00:13:46,534 the largest number in history. 287 00:13:47,110 --> 00:13:49,167 We are the ones who should be ashamed. 288 00:13:49,712 --> 00:13:50,867 Thank you. 289 00:13:50,891 --> 00:13:57,420 (Applause)