WEBVTT 00:00:00.975 --> 00:00:05.047 In 1975, I met in Florence a professor, Carlo Pedretti, 00:00:05.047 --> 00:00:08.377 my former professor of art history, and today 00:00:08.377 --> 00:00:12.563 a world-renowned scholar of Leonardo da Vinci. 00:00:12.563 --> 00:00:16.534 Well, he asked me if I could find some technological way 00:00:16.534 --> 00:00:20.322 to unfold a five-centuries-old mystery related to 00:00:20.322 --> 00:00:23.135 a lost masterpiece by Leonardo da Vinci, 00:00:23.135 --> 00:00:25.762 the "Battle of Anghiari," which is supposed to be located 00:00:25.762 --> 00:00:28.708 in the Hall of the 500 in Palazzo Vecchio, in Florence. 00:00:28.708 --> 00:00:31.811 Well, in the mid-'70s, there were not great opportunities 00:00:31.811 --> 00:00:35.738 for a bioengineer like me, especially in Italy, and so 00:00:35.738 --> 00:00:39.608 I decided, with some researchers from the United States 00:00:39.608 --> 00:00:43.819 and the University of Florence, to start probing the murals 00:00:43.819 --> 00:00:47.938 decorated by Vasari on the long walls of the Hall of the 500 00:00:47.938 --> 00:00:50.615 searching for the lost Leonardo. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:50.615 --> 00:00:54.069 Unfortunately, at that time we did not know that 00:00:54.069 --> 00:00:58.411 that was not exactly where we should be looking, 00:00:58.411 --> 00:01:02.549 because we had to go much deeper in, and so the research 00:01:02.549 --> 00:01:06.884 came to a halt, and it was only taken up in 2000 00:01:06.884 --> 00:01:11.115 thanks to the interest and the enthusiasm of the Guinness family. 00:01:11.115 --> 00:01:14.354 Well, this time, we focused on trying to reconstruct 00:01:14.354 --> 00:01:17.210 the way the Hall of the 500 was before the remodeling, 00:01:17.210 --> 00:01:21.015 and the so-called Sala Grande, which was built in 1494, 00:01:21.015 --> 00:01:23.895 and to find out the original doors, windows, 00:01:23.895 --> 00:01:28.654 and in order to do that, we first created a 3D model, 00:01:28.654 --> 00:01:31.756 and then, with thermography, we went on to discover 00:01:31.756 --> 00:01:34.987 hidden windows. These are the original windows of the hall 00:01:34.987 --> 00:01:38.565 of the Sala Grande. We also found out about the height 00:01:38.565 --> 00:01:41.878 of the ceiling, and we managed to reconstruct, therefore, 00:01:41.878 --> 00:01:44.526 all the layout of this original hall 00:01:44.526 --> 00:01:48.081 the way it was before there came Vasari, 00:01:48.081 --> 00:01:50.676 and restructured the whole thing, 00:01:50.676 --> 00:01:54.012 including a staircase that was very important 00:01:54.012 --> 00:01:58.151 in order to precisely place "The Battle of Anghiari" 00:01:58.151 --> 00:02:02.415 on a specific area of one of the tools. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:02.415 --> 00:02:05.656 Well, we also learned that Vasari, who was commissioned 00:02:05.656 --> 00:02:10.144 to remodel the Hall of the 500 between 1560 and 1574 00:02:10.144 --> 00:02:14.476 by the Grand Duke Cosimo I of the Medici family, 00:02:14.476 --> 00:02:17.917 we have at least two instances when he saved masterpieces 00:02:17.917 --> 00:02:21.174 specifically by placing a brick wall in front of it 00:02:21.174 --> 00:02:23.539 and leaving a small air gap. 00:02:23.539 --> 00:02:27.227 One that really here Masaccio, the church of Santa Maria Novella in Florence, 00:02:27.227 --> 00:02:30.345 so we just said, well maybe, Visari has done something 00:02:30.345 --> 00:02:33.731 like that in the case of this great work of art by Leonardo, 00:02:33.731 --> 00:02:36.216 since he was a great admirer of Leonardo da Vinci. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:36.216 --> 00:02:40.723 And so we built some very sophisticated radio antennas 00:02:40.723 --> 00:02:45.951 just for probing both walls and searching for an air gap. 00:02:45.951 --> 00:02:50.786 And we did find many on the right panel of the east wall, 00:02:50.786 --> 00:02:53.408 an air gap, and that's where 00:02:53.408 --> 00:02:54.958 we believe "The Battle of Anghiari," 00:02:54.958 --> 00:02:56.924 or at least the part that we know has been painted, 00:02:56.924 --> 00:03:00.252 which is called "The Fight for the Standard," should be located. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:00.252 --> 00:03:03.845 Well, from there, unfortunately, 00:03:03.845 --> 00:03:06.499 in 2004, the project 00:03:06.499 --> 00:03:09.646 came to a halt. Many political reasons. 00:03:09.646 --> 00:03:11.980 So I decided to go back to my alma mater, 00:03:11.980 --> 00:03:14.652 and, at the University of California, San Diego, 00:03:14.652 --> 00:03:17.018 and I proposed to open up a research center 00:03:17.018 --> 00:03:19.830 for engineering sciences for cultural heritage. 00:03:19.830 --> 00:03:24.353 And in 2007, we created CISA3 as a research center 00:03:24.353 --> 00:03:27.166 for cultural heritage, specifically art, architecture 00:03:27.166 --> 00:03:29.929 and archaeology. So students started to flow in, 00:03:29.929 --> 00:03:32.063 and we started to build technologies, because that's 00:03:32.063 --> 00:03:34.712 basically what we also needed in order to move forward 00:03:34.712 --> 00:03:37.472 and go and do fieldwork. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:37.472 --> 00:03:41.870 We came back in the Hall of the 500 in 2011, 00:03:41.870 --> 00:03:45.501 and this time, with a great group of students, 00:03:45.501 --> 00:03:47.941 and my colleague, Professor Falko Kuester, 00:03:47.941 --> 00:03:50.643 who is now the director at CISA3, and we 00:03:50.643 --> 00:03:54.816 came back just since we knew already where to look for 00:03:54.816 --> 00:03:57.796 to find out if there was still something left. 00:03:57.796 --> 00:04:01.929 Well, we were confined though, limited, I should rather say, 00:04:01.929 --> 00:04:04.926 for several reasons that it's not worth explaining, 00:04:04.926 --> 00:04:08.672 to endoscopy only, of the many other options we had, 00:04:08.672 --> 00:04:12.467 and with a 4mm camera attached to it, 00:04:12.467 --> 00:04:17.256 we were successful in documenting and taking 00:04:17.256 --> 00:04:22.060 some fragments of what it turns out to be 00:04:22.060 --> 00:04:25.660 a reddish color, black color, and there is some 00:04:25.660 --> 00:04:29.057 beige fragments that later on 00:04:29.057 --> 00:04:32.051 we ran a much more sophisticated exams, 00:04:32.051 --> 00:04:37.291 XRF, X-ray diffraction, and the results are very positive 00:04:37.291 --> 00:04:39.954 so far. It seems to indicate that indeed 00:04:39.954 --> 00:04:43.010 we have found some pigments, and since we know for sure 00:04:43.010 --> 00:04:45.311 that no other artist has painted on that wall 00:04:45.311 --> 00:04:48.830 before Vasari came in about 60 years later, well, 00:04:48.830 --> 00:04:51.691 those pigments are therefore firmly related to mural painting 00:04:51.691 --> 00:04:54.306 and most likely to Leonardo. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:54.306 --> 00:04:59.129 Well, we are searching for the highest and highly praised 00:04:59.129 --> 00:05:02.370 work of art ever achieved by mankind. 00:05:02.370 --> 00:05:05.575 As a matter of fact, this is by far the most important 00:05:05.575 --> 00:05:08.411 commission that Leonardo has ever had, 00:05:08.411 --> 00:05:13.024 and for doing this great masterpiece, he was named 00:05:13.024 --> 00:05:17.829 the number one artist influence at the time. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:17.829 --> 00:05:21.436 I had also had the privilege since the last 37 years 00:05:21.436 --> 00:05:25.096 to work on several masterpieces as you can see behind me, 00:05:25.096 --> 00:05:28.167 but basically to do what? Well, to assess, for example, 00:05:28.167 --> 00:05:30.723 the state of conservation. See here the face of the 00:05:30.723 --> 00:05:35.447 Madonna of the Chair that when just shining a UV light on it 00:05:35.447 --> 00:05:38.135 you suddenly see another, different lady, 00:05:38.135 --> 00:05:40.430 aged lady, I should rather say. 00:05:40.430 --> 00:05:44.019 There is a lot of varnish still sitting there, several retouches, 00:05:44.019 --> 00:05:46.866 and some over cleaning. It becomes very visible. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:46.866 --> 00:05:50.623 But also, technology has helped to write new pages 00:05:50.623 --> 00:05:53.545 of our history, or at least to update pages of our histories. 00:05:53.545 --> 00:05:55.683 For example, the "Lady with the Unicorn," 00:05:55.683 --> 00:05:58.161 another painting by Rafael, well, you see the unicorn. 00:05:58.161 --> 00:06:00.633 A lot has been said and written about the unicorn, but 00:06:00.633 --> 00:06:04.310 if you take an X-ray of the unicorn, it becomes a puppy dog. 00:06:04.310 --> 00:06:08.669 And — (Laughter) — no problem, but, unfortunately, 00:06:08.669 --> 00:06:11.447 continuing with the scientific examination of this painting 00:06:11.447 --> 00:06:14.447 came out that Rafael did not paint the unicorn, 00:06:14.447 --> 00:06:17.104 did not paint the puppy dog, actually left the painting 00:06:17.104 --> 00:06:21.840 unfinished, so all this writing about the exotic symbol 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:24.731 of the unicorn — (Laughter) — unfortunately, 00:06:24.731 --> 00:06:27.891 is not very reliable. (Laughter) NOTE Paragraph 00:06:27.891 --> 00:06:30.491 Well, also, authenticity. Just think for a moment 00:06:30.491 --> 00:06:34.586 if science really could move in the field of authenticity 00:06:34.586 --> 00:06:37.974 of works of art. There would be a cultural revolution 00:06:37.974 --> 00:06:41.135 to say the least, but also, I would say, a market revolution, 00:06:41.135 --> 00:06:43.527 let me add. Take this example: 00:06:43.527 --> 00:06:47.221 Otto Marseus, nice painting, which is "Still Life" 00:06:47.221 --> 00:06:51.316 at the Pitti Gallery, and just have an infrared camera peering through, 00:06:51.316 --> 00:06:55.051 and luckily for art historians, it just was confirmed 00:06:55.051 --> 00:06:57.651 that there is a signature of Otto Marseus. It even says 00:06:57.651 --> 00:07:00.666 when it was made and also the location. 00:07:00.666 --> 00:07:05.065 So that was a good result. Sometimes, it's not that good, 00:07:05.065 --> 00:07:10.229 and so, again, authenticity and science could go together 00:07:10.229 --> 00:07:14.526 and change the way, not attributions being made, 00:07:14.526 --> 00:07:18.369 but at least lay the ground for a more objective, 00:07:18.369 --> 00:07:22.090 or, I should rather say, less subjective attribution, 00:07:22.090 --> 00:07:24.838 as it is done today. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:24.838 --> 00:07:28.132 But I would say the discovery that really caught 00:07:28.132 --> 00:07:32.239 my imagination, my admiration, is the incredibly vivid 00:07:32.239 --> 00:07:35.851 drawing under this layer, brown layer, 00:07:35.851 --> 00:07:39.103 of "The Adoration of the Magi." Here you see 00:07:39.103 --> 00:07:43.533 a handmade setting XYZ scanner with an infrared camera put on it, 00:07:43.533 --> 00:07:46.740 and just peering through this brown layer 00:07:46.740 --> 00:07:49.491 of this masterpiece to reveal 00:07:49.491 --> 00:07:52.191 what could have been underneath. 00:07:52.191 --> 00:07:54.543 Well, this happens to be the most important painting 00:07:54.543 --> 00:07:57.400 we have in Italy by Leonardo da Vinci, and 00:07:57.400 --> 00:08:02.136 look at the wonderful images of faces that nobody has seen 00:08:02.136 --> 00:08:05.827 for five centuries. Look at these portraits. 00:08:05.827 --> 00:08:08.200 They're magnificent. You see Leonardo at work. 00:08:08.200 --> 00:08:11.857 You see the geniality of his creation, right directly 00:08:11.857 --> 00:08:14.764 on the ground layer of the panel, and see 00:08:14.764 --> 00:08:20.836 this cool thing, finding, I should rather say, 00:08:20.836 --> 00:08:24.098 an elephant. (Laughter) Because of this elephant, 00:08:24.098 --> 00:08:27.867 over 70 new images came out, never seen for centuries. 00:08:27.867 --> 00:08:31.197 This was an epiphany. We came to understand 00:08:31.197 --> 00:08:34.923 and to prove that the brown coating that we see today 00:08:34.923 --> 00:08:37.690 was not done by Leonardo da Vinci, which left us 00:08:37.690 --> 00:08:40.197 only the other drawing that for five centuries 00:08:40.197 --> 00:08:45.407 we were not able to see, so thanks only to technology. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:45.407 --> 00:08:49.783 Well, the tablet. Well, we thought, well, if we all have 00:08:49.783 --> 00:08:52.561 this pleasure, this privilege to see all this, 00:08:52.561 --> 00:08:56.099 to find all these discoveries, what about for everybody else? 00:08:56.099 --> 00:08:58.941 So we thought of an augmented reality application 00:08:58.941 --> 00:09:03.229 using a tablet. Let me show you just simulating 00:09:03.229 --> 00:09:06.818 what we could be doing, any of us could be doing, 00:09:06.818 --> 00:09:08.993 in a museum environment. 00:09:08.993 --> 00:09:13.455 So let's say that we go to a museum with a tablet, okay? 00:09:13.455 --> 00:09:16.751 And we just aim the camera of the tablet 00:09:16.751 --> 00:09:22.882 to the painting that we are interested to see, like this. 00:09:22.882 --> 00:09:28.756 Okay? And I will just click on it, we pause, 00:09:28.756 --> 00:09:32.918 and now let me turn to you so the moment the image, 00:09:32.918 --> 00:09:36.271 or, I should say, the camera, has locked in the painting, 00:09:36.271 --> 00:09:38.937 then the images you just saw up there in the drawing 00:09:38.937 --> 00:09:42.694 are being loaded. And so, see. 00:09:42.694 --> 00:09:46.497 We can, as we said, we can zoom in. Then we can scroll. 00:09:46.497 --> 00:09:51.442 Okay? Let's go and find the elephant. 00:09:51.442 --> 00:09:54.699 So all we need is one finger. Just wipe off 00:09:54.699 --> 00:09:59.240 and we see the elephant. (Applause) 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:02.784 (Applause) 00:10:02.784 --> 00:10:05.496 Okay? And then if we want, 00:10:05.496 --> 00:10:08.276 we can continue the scroll to find out, for example, 00:10:08.276 --> 00:10:12.371 on the staircase, the whole iconography is going 00:10:12.371 --> 00:10:14.699 to be changed. There are a lot of laymen reconstructing 00:10:14.699 --> 00:10:17.330 from the ruins of an old temple a new temple, 00:10:17.330 --> 00:10:21.118 and there are a lot of figures showing up. See? NOTE Paragraph 00:10:21.118 --> 00:10:24.324 This is not just a curiosity, because it changes 00:10:24.324 --> 00:10:27.372 not just the iconography as you see it, but the iconology, 00:10:27.372 --> 00:10:29.723 the meaning of the painting, 00:10:29.723 --> 00:10:32.513 and we believe this is a cool way, easy way, 00:10:32.513 --> 00:10:35.653 that everybody could have access to, to become more 00:10:35.653 --> 00:10:38.746 the protagonist of your own discovery, and not just 00:10:38.746 --> 00:10:42.120 be so passive about it, as we are when we walk through 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:46.314 endless rooms of museums. 00:10:46.314 --> 00:10:51.650 (Applause) NOTE Paragraph 00:10:51.650 --> 00:10:55.407 Another concept is the digital clinical chart, which sounds 00:10:55.407 --> 00:10:57.882 very obvious if we were to talk about real patients, 00:10:57.882 --> 00:11:00.138 but when we talk about works of art, unfortunately, 00:11:00.138 --> 00:11:02.270 it's never been tapped as an idea. 00:11:02.270 --> 00:11:04.825 Well, we believe, again, that this should be the beginning, 00:11:04.825 --> 00:11:07.310 the very first step, to do real conservation, 00:11:07.310 --> 00:11:10.798 and allowing us to really explore and to understand 00:11:10.798 --> 00:11:13.589 everything related to the state of our conservation, 00:11:13.589 --> 00:11:16.963 the technique, materials, and also if, when, and why 00:11:16.963 --> 00:11:21.554 we should restore, or, rather, to intervene on 00:11:21.554 --> 00:11:25.085 the environment surrounding the painting. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:25.085 --> 00:11:28.495 Well, our vision is to rediscover 00:11:28.495 --> 00:11:30.904 the spirit of the Renaissance, create a new discipline 00:11:30.904 --> 00:11:34.513 where engineering for cultural heritage is actually 00:11:34.513 --> 00:11:37.215 a symbol of blending art and science together. 00:11:37.215 --> 00:11:39.645 We definitely need a new breed of engineers 00:11:39.645 --> 00:11:42.378 that will go out and do this kind of work and 00:11:42.378 --> 00:11:46.720 rediscover for us these values, these cultural values 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:49.274 that we badly need, especially today. NOTE Paragraph 00:11:49.274 --> 00:11:53.008 And if you want to summarize in one just single word, 00:11:53.008 --> 00:11:55.924 well, this is what we're trying to do. 00:11:55.924 --> 00:11:58.162 We're trying to give a future to our past 00:11:58.162 --> 00:12:00.564 in order to have a future. 00:12:00.564 --> 00:12:03.632 As long as we live a life of curiosity and passion, 00:12:03.632 --> 00:12:07.818 there is a bit of Leonardo in all of us. Thank you. (Applause) 00:12:07.818 --> 00:12:13.595 (Applause)