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This T-shirt represents everything I'm going to say today.
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Can you see the shirt?
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Even at the back?
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It's actually, it's a match, which is here on fire,
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and there it's completely burned up.
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and this represents language learning for me.
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because when I study languages,
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I'm enthusiastic and energetic,
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then I feel like I'm on fire and burning and dying,
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and I end up frazzled and at the end I have to lie down.
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Whereas Richard, I heard him say that it's the opposite way around for him.
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He comes home after a hard day's work
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"Well, I feel on fire! I'm completely alive!"
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And at the end of hard session, he's reinvigorated.
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So, I want my language learning[br]to stop being like that
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and to be more like that.
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And I've always been fascinated
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with this difference,
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why some people frazzle at the end
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and some people get energised.
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OK. So my presentation touches a bit on that.
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I have to be ambidextrous
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which I'm not.
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So, the number 262 is important
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because that's how many slides I've got.
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[Laughter]
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Yeah.
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Oops! Sorry. It's not doing anything.
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[Audience member] - Try again!
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No.
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Yeah, all my slides say 262.
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[Laughter]
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Oh, is it up here?
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Where does it point?
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Oh, I was pressing the wrong button. OK.
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I'm not good at technical stuff.
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Yeah. And that's about how many minutes[br]I've got to do it.
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So, if you're good at numbers. That's a lot of slides.
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So I'll be talking quickly.
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Anthony Lauder.[br]That's me.
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Who?? Never heard of him.
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I'm the only person here that I've never heard of.
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This is a polyglot conference.
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Polyglots? What? Why am I here?
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[Laughter]
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I'm a "polyNot".
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I am useless at languages.
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My cats are better polyglots than me.
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If I say "food", they come running.
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If I say "tickle", they roll on their backs.
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If they say "Miaow", [br]I've got no idea what they're saying at all.
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[Laughter]
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I'm good at mathematics. OK?
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So, you shouldn't invite me[br]to a conference to talk about languages.
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Instead, I'm going to talk about [br]the Peano Axioms,
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which were formulated by Giuseppe Peano[br]in 1889.
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And the Peano Axioms, as you probably know,
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[Laughter]
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are the product of meta-mathematical research
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into fundamental questions of consistency and completeness in number theory.
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And specifically they state that all natural numbers are closed,
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under an injective and non-zero successor function. Yeah?
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And a reflexive, symmetric, transitive equality func...
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Zzzzzzz [snoring]
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[Laughter]
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Sorry.
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In other words...
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[Audience Member] It was interesting!
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Yeah, thank you.
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Think... This is what it's saying in real English.
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Think of a number.
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41
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Add one to it [br]and what do you get?
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42
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Brilliant. So, you're good at mathematics.
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You can apply Peano's axioms
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Because that's all they say.
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You get another number.
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And you can keep going.
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41 plus 1 is 42 and if you add one again
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you don't get 42, you get... 43.
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Is it?
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And you can keep going and going...
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And this "Add 1" is all you need.
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You can count to all the numbers in the universe, and beyond.
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And what's the lesson from this?
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When you're good at adding one,
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numbers become really easy.
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Great.
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When you're bad at adding 1,
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numbers are very hard.[br][Laughter]
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So, how does this relate to polyglottery?
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Well, it actually does.
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I'm going to take my sandals off,[br]because they're slipping around a bit.
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So, if you can smell anything bad,[br]it's Richard, it's not me.
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I'm using Peano Axioms to understand
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the easiest way to be able to speak 10 foreign languages.
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I see on the forums,
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people always want to know what's the easiest way,
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what's the quickest way, what's the best method.
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I'm going to tell you now
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with my strong mathematical background
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- I have a PhD in Theoretical Computer Science.
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I'm really good at this kinda stuff. -
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And I'm gonna tell you how, using that,
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to be good at speaking 10 foreign languages.
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Are you ready?
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Step 1...[br][Audience laughter]
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[applause]
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It's really easy. It's a 2 step plan.
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Who could ask for more?
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So, which is the hardest of those two steps?
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I think it's probably step 1 is the hardest, yeah?
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But once you've done that,[br]it's much easier to add one more.
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OK. And how do you do that?
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The way to be able to speak 9 languages is,
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because that was the hard bit, is[br]speak 8 and add 1.
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And you can keep going.
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And the hardest step is always step 1.
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And then adding one is easy...
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until you get here.
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Now step 2 is the hard one.
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[Audience laughter]
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Yeah?
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And this is important!
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Because for mega-polyglots, adding 1 is really easy.
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But for people like me, "polyNots",
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adding 1 is really hard.
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And my speech is going to be about why.
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Yeah, this is the big question.
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Literally. It's a big question.[br][Audience laughter]
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[Applause]
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So, I don't know the answer!
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I don't know anything about languages,
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so I decided to do some research.
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And I looked into Applied Linguistics,
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and I found out that
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Applied Linguistics is the branch of linguistics
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that's actually useful to people who aren't linguists.
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[laughter & applause]
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So, the other advantage of this is
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anything I say here might be nonsense
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but all I have to do is
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- like English newspapers when they are about to say
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"That guy is a lying idiot" -
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they just put the word "allegedly"[br]at the beginning
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and don't have to worry about it.
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So allegedly, this is how to be good at adding one.
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So, applied linguistics isn't about theories.
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It's not some people just thinking up[br]something that "sounds good".
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Instead they do experiments in real life,
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find results, and publish the results.
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It's based on lots of evidence over decades.
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I've read mountains of papers
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and one great book.
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This great book.
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It's big and it's fat
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and it's boring as hell.[br][Laughter]
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But it's really good, if you don't mind being bored.
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But it teaches a lot.
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It actually surveys in great detail[br]600 research studies.
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And it finds,[br]if you wade through all that,
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that the main difference between[br]Polyglots and PolyNots - like me -
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- so people like him, and people like me -
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is... polyglots are good at...
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[crowd makes inaudible suggestions]
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guessing.
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[Crowd laughs][br]Who got that then? Ha!
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I bet Richard did![br]Okay...
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And it turns out,[br]the reason they're good at guessing,
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- Now don't say nonsense yet, just bear with me -
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is because they have better memories.
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Now you'll say[br]"No, my memory is no better than anybody else's."
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And it might be true,
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because polyglots do not have
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better long term memory[br]than mere mortals.
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[Laughing]
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But they do have better short-term memories.
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There's some geeky words here, for linguists only,
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so I hope you can't read them.
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It's qualifying it[br]in case there are any linguists here.
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Short-term memories is good enough.
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Polyglots can remember things for a few seconds,
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and PolyNots forget them immediately.
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Did I say this yet?[br][Laughter]
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It's "in one ear and out the other",[br]literally.
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So why is short term memory important?
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Why does it matter?
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You know, we learn all these things about
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how to remember words years down the line,
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but why is it important
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to remember something[br]for 5 seconds or 10 seconds?
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Well, it turns out that[br]short-term memory is essential to,
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it supports,[br]3 very important language skills.
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And those are
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noticing things,
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processing things, and
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guessing things.
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I'm gonna get into these in great detail.
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So, without those three skills,
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you can't use the methods that polyglots use.
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And polyNots struggle with language learning because
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they lack the three skills of...
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What were they?[br][Laughter]
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noticing, processing and guessing.
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And that's great news for polyglots[br]and bad news for polyNots.
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Therefore,[br]the road from polyNottery to polyglottery
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is a process of[br]developing a better short term memory.
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And then you can train in the skills of[br]noticing, processing and guessing.
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And from that, you can apply the methods[br]that polyglots use.
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If you try to apply them[br]without having those skills,
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you're gonna burn up.
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OK. Now, interestingly, this process[br]is iterative and bidirectional.
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Oooh, whatever that means.[br][Laughter]
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What it actually means is
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the more you improve your memory,
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the better your skills in processing,[br]and so on, and guessing become.
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And then you can start to use the methods.
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But, once you're using the methods,
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they actually build the skills,[br]which builds the memory.
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So it sort of snowballs.
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And it turns out,
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you actually only need a few weeks of training[br]to build these skills,
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and then you can be pretty independent.
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So, let's relate this to language learn--
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... to learning vocabulary.
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Now one reason that it's about vocabulary
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Is because the big fat book I read[br]is about vocabulary.
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If that book was about something else,
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this speech would be about something else.
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But it's because
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loads and loads and loads of real research
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from applied linguistics and not from theorists
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has shown that in order to comprehend spoken stuff
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and written stuff,
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vocabulary is actually far more important
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than subject knowledge ...[br]knowledge about the subject matter
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and far more important than grammatical knowledge.
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Now, how many words do you need?
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I guess you people[br]know all these kind of numbers
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that talk about things like
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"Native speakers have[br]20,000-word vocabulary."
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Ooh! That's a big number!
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It actually turns out that
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people learn around a thousand words a year
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pretty consistently up until around university age.
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So when a child goes to school for the first time,
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they'll know 5,000 words.
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mostly learned orally
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from their parents,
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and add a thousand words a year.
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"I haven't got 20 years[br]to learn some foreign language!"
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"Jesus Christ! I am an old man![br]I'll be dead by then." [Laughter]
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But you need a very high vocabulary
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in order to have "pleasant free reading",
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for it not to be a frazzling experience,
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for it to be a pleasurable experience.
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If you have 95% coverage of the vocabulary
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in a newspaper[br]like the Guardian or something,
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You can understand it.
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It's not easy.
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If it's 90%,[br]understanding of the vocabulary in the Guardian,
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you really know you're studying.
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85% - it's for Richard Simcott and Luca only,
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and even those guys are defeated when it's 80%.
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Oooh, that's pretty spooky.
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So, what's the polyNot approach to vocabulary?
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Well, I didn't have to look very far to know that!
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Yikes! 20,000 words!
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That's a lot of flashcards![br][Laughter]
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PolyNots tend to believe in the existence,
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that there's one magic strategy
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that's going to be the best one.
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You see them asking this on forums.
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Actually, interestingly,[br]people have spoken to polyNots
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and found that[br]they don't really believe it
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but they kid themselves into believing it.
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They feel guilty they are not using[br]a wider range of strategies,
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but they're more comforted by believing[br]they are using the best one.
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So they seek confirmation[br]from people like Richard,
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to say, "Yeah, that's a really good one."
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Then they feel they're doing[br]what the masters do.
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And they tend to stick with it then
0:15:06.730,0:15:08.570
despite all the evidence.
0:15:08.570,0:15:11.580
You know that definition of insanity is
0:15:11.580,0:15:13.570
doing the same thing over and over and over again
0:15:13.570,0:15:14.280
despite all the evidence
0:15:14.280,0:15:16.860
and expecting a different result.
0:15:16.860,0:15:20.860
That's what we do ... us polyNots.
0:15:20.860,0:15:22.700
So, they spend a mass amount of time
0:15:22.700,0:15:25.880
on learning single, unrelated words,
0:15:25.880,0:15:29.600
and you end up with things like "Anki addiction".
0:15:29.600,0:15:32.390
I've seen on Anki forums guys saying...
0:15:32.390,0:15:35.080
"I've spent 2 hours putting new words into Anki today...
0:15:35.080,0:15:37.300
and 15 minutes reviewing them."
0:15:37.300,0:15:41.300
They're just... addicted.
0:15:41.673,0:15:44.763
And they do these lengthy cramming sessions
0:15:44.763,0:15:47.253
when they want to be heroic.
0:15:47.253,0:15:50.253
"Ooh. I'll get as much energy as I can
0:15:50.253,0:15:52.963
and do a cramming session tonight."
0:15:53.833,0:15:57.833
And they want to pin down[br]the one true meaning of a word
0:15:57.833,0:16:01.833
and get that one simple definition[br]on their flashcard.
0:16:01.833,0:16:04.553
They see dictionaries as authoritative,
0:16:04.553,0:16:08.553
so that, if they think they know[br]what a word means,
0:16:08.553,0:16:11.923
but they see a different definition[br]of the word in the dictionary
0:16:11.923,0:16:15.923
they'll abandon their own understanding of the word[br]as completely wrong.
0:16:15.923,0:16:17.373
"Oh no! I'm an idiot."
0:16:17.373,0:16:18.073
"I've got it wrong."
0:16:18.073,0:16:20.593
"It means something else[br]because the dictionary tells me so."
0:16:20.593,0:16:23.433
And they beat themselves up[br]when they forget a word.
0:16:23.433,0:16:28.283
As you can imagine,[br]I'm beating myself up a lot.
0:16:28.298,0:16:30.958
The idea then is that[br]you either know a word or you don't.
0:16:30.958,0:16:33.018
It's black or white.
0:16:33.200,0:16:36.280
And you stop reviewing a word[br]once you know it.
0:16:36.280,0:16:37.390
"Oh, I know that word now,
0:16:37.390,0:16:40.280
time for me to move on to another one."
0:16:40.280,0:16:43.480
And where do they decide[br]what words they're gonna work on?
0:16:43.480,0:16:45.370
Those that are given to them[br]in homework
0:16:45.370,0:16:48.770
or in the textbook[br]are the most important by far,
0:16:48.770,0:16:51.930
even when they know[br]they're not interesting.
0:16:51.930,0:16:54.790
Things that are in thematic groups.
0:16:54.790,0:16:57.310
I remember when I was studying French,
0:16:57.310,0:17:01.310
and we were given a list of all the[br]different words for different fishes.
0:17:01.310,0:17:03.530
And it had their English translations,
0:17:03.530,0:17:06.720
and I'd never heard of half of[br]the English names for the fishes,
0:17:06.720,0:17:09.140
but was still learning the French ones.
0:17:09.140,0:17:10.130
What?!
0:17:10.130,0:17:10.950
This is interesting:
0:17:10.950,0:17:14.300
ones that "sound nice".
0:17:14.300,0:17:15.290
Pampeliška.
0:17:15.290,0:17:17.830
Who knows what pampeliška means?
0:17:17.830,0:17:20.210
It's a nice sounding word...
0:17:20.210,0:17:22.210
You should go and look up what it means.
0:17:22.210,0:17:23.960
Vulgar or unusual words.
0:17:23.960,0:17:25.520
"Eeeee! Let's get the slang book."
0:17:25.520,0:17:26.800
"I can learn the swear words!"
0:17:26.800,0:17:28.520
"Won't that be good?"
0:17:28.520,0:17:32.840
And none of this is about whether the words are useful.
0:17:32.840,0:17:36.780
So, they shun output quite a lot[br]as too painful
0:17:36.811,0:17:38.891
"Oh no, that's going to remind me[br]of what I don't know!"
0:17:38.891,0:17:39.621
"I'm going to look like an idiot!"
0:17:39.621,0:17:42.281
"I'm not going to do any output."
0:17:42.281,0:17:45.711
One day I'll know 20,000 words
0:17:45.711,0:17:47.381
and then I'll be fluent.
0:17:47.381,0:17:48.421
It'll be easy.
0:17:48.421,0:17:51.001
I won't need to go through all that output.
0:17:51.001,0:17:54.371
It'll just be easy all of a sudden.
0:17:54.371,0:17:56.161
So, like one of my friends,
0:17:56.161,0:17:57.841
you can say 'octopus'...
0:17:57.841,0:17:59.651
you can say 'hovercraft'...
0:17:59.651,0:18:03.691
but you can't say[br]"Can you help me, please?"
0:18:03.691,0:18:05.341
[Laughter]
0:18:05.341,0:18:08.571
If only they'd learned[br]the word for 'helicopter',
0:18:08.571,0:18:12.221
that would have been it!
0:18:12.221,0:18:14.411
So, the polyglot approach to vocabulary
0:18:14.411,0:18:16.481
according to that book
0:18:16.481,0:18:18.541
is very different.
0:18:20.176,0:18:24.176
Vocabulary learning is not an end goal[br]for polyglots.
0:18:24.176,0:18:27.596
It's not about[br]"I've got 20,000 words in Anki!"
0:18:27.596,0:18:32.026
No, it's about[br]effective control over vocabulary
0:18:32.026,0:18:34.856
for confident and fluent use
0:18:34.856,0:18:36.976
in listening, speaking,[br]reading, and writing,
0:18:36.976,0:18:40.566
not just for getting high scores on Anki.
0:18:40.566,0:18:45.276
So, knowing a word[br]is not an all or nothing affair.
0:18:45.276,0:18:48.506
Words sink in over time.
0:18:48.506,0:18:51.346
You get repeated viewings,[br]like on an Anki card,
0:18:51.346,0:18:55.346
but you also get a broader,[br]more diverse viewing of a word
0:18:55.346,0:18:57.656
from different contexts
0:18:57.656,0:19:00.046
to teach you the wide meanings
0:19:00.046,0:19:03.226
and the broad meanings of words.
0:19:03.226,0:19:09.086
In particular, polyglots see knowing a word[br]as multidimensional:
0:19:09.086,0:19:10.906
form, meaning, and use.
0:19:10.906,0:19:11.856
Which means,
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the spelling of the word,
0:19:13.096,0:19:15.476
the parts the word is made up of,
0:19:15.476,0:19:16.636
... the word ...
0:19:16.636,0:19:18.186
and the pronunciation of the word,
0:19:18.186,0:19:19.226
what the tone is,
0:19:19.226,0:19:20.356
where the emphasis is,
0:19:20.356,0:19:22.116
all these kind of things.
0:19:22.116,0:19:23.546
And the meaning...
0:19:23.546,0:19:25.666
Maybe there's a central concept to the word,
0:19:25.666,0:19:28.546
but there can be[br]very diverse meanings as well
0:19:28.546,0:19:29.576
and you have learn all of these.
0:19:29.576,0:19:33.406
You don't reject all of them[br]apart from the "one true one".
0:19:33.406,0:19:35.716
And words have lots of associations
0:19:35.716,0:19:37.496
- We saw this[br]in one of the speeches yesterday -
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If you use the wrong word[br]in the wrong context,
0:19:39.276,0:19:41.856
it'll cause all sorts of[br]strange associations to people
0:19:41.856,0:19:44.286
that were unexpected to you.
0:19:44.286,0:19:45.776
And use...
0:19:45.776,0:19:48.856
So, is this a high frequency word?
0:19:48.856,0:19:52.196
And in what context is it high frequency?
0:19:52.196,0:19:57.996
"How's it hangin'?"[br]isn't very high frequency in written form
0:19:57.996,0:19:59.696
for example.
0:19:59.696,0:20:01.246
How formal is it?
0:20:01.246,0:20:05.472
"Hey man, give me five"[br]isn't very good at a job interview.
0:20:05.472,0:20:07.612
[Laughter]
0:20:07.612,0:20:09.002
Oh, medium, yes...
0:20:09.002,0:20:11.042
Is it spoken form or written form?
0:20:11.042,0:20:12.412
And collocations
0:20:12.412,0:20:13.942
- I don't even know if I'm saying that correctly -
0:20:13.942,0:20:16.822
- I've always said it /kɑləˈkeɪʃənz/ -
0:20:16.822,0:20:19.962
is a thing that polyNots tend to ignore
0:20:19.962,0:20:24.512
but polyglots, even without realising it
0:20:24.526,0:20:28.526
- we'll see - place a lot of emphasis on these.
0:20:28.526,0:20:30.256
So, polyglots cover all those by
0:20:30.256,0:20:34.186
balancing four strands of study:
0:20:34.186,0:20:36.496
Intensive vocabulary study
0:20:36.496,0:20:40.976
This is the stuff that polyNots like me[br]over-focus on
0:20:40.976,0:20:42.696
Extensive listening and reading
0:20:42.696,0:20:43.556
Speaking and writing
0:20:43.556,0:20:44.606
and Fluency development
0:20:44.606,0:20:46.636
I'll come to these in detail.
0:20:46.636,0:20:49.346
Strand 1: Intensive vocabulary study
0:20:49.346,0:20:51.786
Choose words based on frequency.
0:20:51.786,0:20:55.786
Frequency really means usefulness.
0:20:56.894,0:21:00.114
You need 20,000 words to get 98% coverage.
0:21:00.114,0:21:02.494
"Ha! No! I've got to learn all of them!"
0:21:02.494,0:21:06.784
No. Because even just knowing 10 words,[br]you can get 24% coverage.
0:21:06.784,0:21:14.874
So, learn those 10 words first.[br][Laughter]
0:21:14.874,0:21:19.394
[applause]
0:21:19.394,0:21:21.916
So, it's been shown in research
0:21:21.936,0:21:25.936
that you should study quite intensively the first
0:21:25.936,0:21:28.406
highest frequency 2,000 to 4,000 words
0:21:28.406,0:21:30.076
That's worth putting time in.
0:21:30.076,0:21:31.766
That's worth sticking into Anki.
0:21:31.766,0:21:33.606
In fact, it's very interesting,
0:21:33.606,0:21:36.706
polyglots, perhaps from their vast experience,
0:21:36.706,0:21:38.886
have a general sense[br]for what's high frequency,
0:21:38.886,0:21:40.646
for what's worth knowing.
0:21:40.646,0:21:41.536
PolyNots don't.
0:21:41.536,0:21:44.046
They see every word[br]as equally worth knowing
0:21:44.046,0:21:46.176
so they just take other people's lists.
0:21:46.176,0:21:48.486
So, they should probably use frequency dictionaries.
0:21:48.486,0:21:49.466
There are some brilliant ones
0:21:49.466,0:21:50.556
With the most 4,000 ...
0:21:50.556,0:21:54.556
4,000 most important words[br]in Spanish, or French, or German, ...
0:21:54.556,0:21:55.876
Just go with those.
0:21:55.876,0:21:59.036
Make that your order[br]rather than randomness.
0:21:59.036,0:22:05.166
But then, rather than learning the next 2,000[br]high-frequency general words,
0:22:05.166,0:22:07.386
it's far more useful to you to focus on
0:22:07.386,0:22:09.706
the 2,000 most frequent words
0:22:09.706,0:22:13.706
in your specialist field[br]of personal interest.
0:22:13.706,0:22:15.206
So, for example,
0:22:15.206,0:22:17.486
there's something called the "Academic Word List"
0:22:17.486,0:22:19.966
which has got about 350 words.
0:22:19.966,0:22:20.766
If you learn those
0:22:20.766,0:22:22.676
- There are books on this actually,[br]things like
0:22:22.676,0:22:24.826
French for Reading,[br]or German for Reading -
0:22:24.826,0:22:26.856
and they train you to be very good
0:22:26.856,0:22:32.226
with the academic vocabulary[br]for reading scientific papers.
0:22:32.226,0:22:34.116
You'll learn a few hundred words
0:22:34.116,0:22:36.176
that'll be really useful in that field.
0:22:36.176,0:22:37.786
Conversational vocab
0:22:37.786,0:22:38.186
This is what ...
0:22:38.186,0:22:39.056
- I don't know if anybody knows
0:22:39.056,0:22:40.326
what my "conversational connectors" are -
0:22:40.326,0:22:42.416
This is focusing on stuff that
0:22:42.416,0:22:44.056
you say a lot in conversations
0:22:44.056,0:22:46.726
but you never see in written form.
0:22:46.726,0:22:49.076
So, a lot of people just read textbooks
0:22:49.076,0:22:50.566
or study literature or something,
0:22:50.566,0:22:52.176
and they can't hold a conversation
0:22:52.176,0:22:53.416
because they've never been exposed to
0:22:53.416,0:22:55.116
conversational vocabulary.
0:22:55.116,0:22:58.586
Journalism - It turns out there are[br]just a few hundred words
0:22:58.586,0:23:00.406
that appear constantly across journalism,
0:23:00.406,0:23:02.936
and you need to know them[br]to work in that area.
0:23:02.936,0:23:07.546
Fiction.[br]Fiction has its own vocabulary.
0:23:07.546,0:23:09.786
Shoe selling
0:23:09.786,0:23:12.776
It's worth knowing the word "shoelace"
0:23:12.776,0:23:14.336
if you're doing shoe selling,
0:23:14.336,0:23:18.746
but not if you're reading Tolstoy.
0:23:18.746,0:23:21.586
There was a personal stab[br]at a specific person there
0:23:21.586,0:23:23.326
I won't say who.
0:23:23.740,0:23:24.980
OK
0:23:26.311,0:23:30.311
Now, some researchers[br]looked at this whole field
0:23:30.311,0:23:33.021
and they found, for example,[br]there's a very important textbook
0:23:33.021,0:23:34.431
with 300,000 words.
0:23:34.431,0:23:36.931
- It's a big, fat[br]telephone directory kind of book
0:23:36.931,0:23:38.451
for macroeconomics -
0:23:38.451,0:23:41.571
and they found that[br]just 34 specialist words
0:23:41.571,0:23:45.571
covered 10% of that textbook
0:23:45.571,0:23:48.211
Learn those
0:23:48.211,0:23:52.211
if you are interested in macroeconomics.
0:23:52.986,0:23:53.566
Has it stopped? OK.
0:23:53.928,0:23:57.208
Then, beyond those 6000 words,
0:23:57.208,0:24:02.478
"Ankimania" is probably not worth it.
0:24:02.478,0:24:05.678
The words are going to come up too rarely
0:24:05.678,0:24:08.158
to make that intensive study worth it.
0:24:08.158,0:24:11.688
Just let yourself get exposed to them[br]naturally,
0:24:11.688,0:24:13.928
through [Strand 2] Extensive listening and reading.
0:24:13.928,0:24:16.228
Again, according to the book, not according to me.
0:24:16.228,0:24:19.498
So, extensive listening and reading[br]does three things.
0:24:19.498,0:24:24.158
It helps you encounter[br]low frequency words.
0:24:24.158,0:24:27.322
It helps you enrich and deepen[br]- This is so vital! -
0:24:27.322,0:24:30.362
enrich and deepen[br]your knowledge of high frequency words.
0:24:30.362,0:24:33.242
It's not, "I know that now.[br]It's a waste of time me seeing it again."
0:24:33.242,0:24:34.892
It needs to be enriched and deepened.
0:24:34.892,0:24:36.472
And it helps you to master collocations.
0:24:36.472,0:24:38.212
I'm going to come back to those.
0:24:39.002,0:24:42.342
So, unfortunately[br]to learn words from context,
0:24:42.342,0:24:43.972
from reading and listening,
0:24:43.972,0:24:47.152
you need about 95 to 98% coverage.
0:24:47.152,0:24:52.202
Supergeniuses...[br]of which there are many in this room
0:24:52.202,0:24:55.282
but none standing up here on the platform
0:24:55.282,0:24:59.282
can manage with 90%.
0:24:59.282,0:25:00.542
So does that mean you've got to have
0:25:00.542,0:25:03.302
20,000-word vocabulary before you start?
0:25:03.302,0:25:04.852
No. It turns out that polyglots
0:25:04.852,0:25:06.912
have this fantastic ability
0:25:06.912,0:25:10.052
at sniffing out manageable material:
0:25:10.052,0:25:14.007
Things they can handle.[br]Things that don't intimidate them.
0:25:14.007,0:25:17.277
I say,[br]and many other people have said actually,
0:25:17.277,0:25:20.257
that one of the best things a teacher can do,[br]is not lecture you on grammar,
0:25:20.257,0:25:22.937
but point out to you
0:25:22.937,0:25:25.057
appropriate material[br]for you to be working with.
0:25:25.057,0:25:26.517
"You're ready for this now."
0:25:26.517,0:25:28.047
"Go and look at that, now."
0:25:28.047,0:25:31.583
"You won't be overwhelmed and[br]you won't be underwhelmed."
0:25:31.583,0:25:33.023
An example: graded readers.
0:25:33.023,0:25:34.973
Great, if you are learning English, by the way,
0:25:34.973,0:25:39.673
bad if you're learning[br]Dzongkha from Bhutan.
0:25:39.673,0:25:41.443
Unfortunately there aren't any.
0:25:41.443,0:25:45.443
But the Oxford Bookworm series[br]has 6 levels
0:25:45.443,0:25:49.343
each introducing 400 words only.
0:25:49.343,0:25:52.728
Level 1 requires a vocabulary[br]of only 400 words.
0:25:52.728,0:25:55.498
And by the end of the 6 levels,
0:25:55.498,0:25:57.348
about 10 books in each level,
0:25:57.348,0:26:00.828
you've learned 2,500 high frequency words.
0:26:00.828,0:26:02.498
And they are not baby books.
0:26:02.498,0:26:06.498
It's not "Spot the Dog" or[br]"Here is Peter and Jane".
0:26:06.498,0:26:09.668
It's things like "Mutiny on the Bounty"[br]and "The Phantom of the Opera"
0:26:09.668,0:26:11.418
and stuff like that, stuff that adults...
0:26:11.418,0:26:13.428
stuff that's not going to[br]bore the pants off you.
0:26:13.428,0:26:16.848
And the aim here is not to make it easy.
0:26:16.848,0:26:20.848
The aim here is to help you[br]develop vocabulary control
0:26:20.848,0:26:26.688
by eliminating the deleterious superfluity[br]of very low frequency vocabulary,
0:26:26.688,0:26:30.038
such as "deleterious superfluity".
0:26:30.038,0:26:32.978
[Laughter]
0:26:32.978,0:26:36.608
[Applause]
0:26:36.608,0:26:38.598
The idea here is that you hit words
0:26:38.598,0:26:41.928
from many, many, many different angles.
0:26:41.928,0:26:45.192
And you deepen and broaden[br]your knowledge of it.
0:26:45.192,0:26:45.822
OK?
0:26:45.822,0:26:47.822
Then after those graded readers,
0:26:47.822,0:26:50.082
then you are ready for authentic materials
0:26:50.082,0:26:51.792
in your specialist area.
0:26:51.792,0:26:52.582
You can dive in.
0:26:52.582,0:26:54.472
They've prepared you.
0:26:55.818,0:26:59.818
Now, unfortunately, it takes a long time.
0:26:59.818,0:27:03.818
To learn 1,000 low-frequency words a year
0:27:03.818,0:27:06.338
needs massive amounts of exposure.
0:27:06.338,0:27:10.338
You need - Oh My God! -[br]one million words
0:27:10.338,0:27:13.998
reading or listening, or a combination
0:27:13.998,0:27:15.888
to give you sufficient repetition
0:27:15.888,0:27:18.278
to absorb 1,000 words a year.
0:27:18.288,0:27:19.998
So, I think that's a realistic goal.
0:27:19.998,0:27:25.298
People want to become masters in days.
0:27:25.298,0:27:27.658
Be realistic.
0:27:27.658,0:27:29.246
OK, that means you have got to read
0:27:29.246,0:27:30.676
one or two books a month,
0:27:30.676,0:27:33.496
or read a magazine like Newsweek[br]every week,
0:27:33.496,0:27:35.296
to steadily increase your vocabulary
0:27:35.296,0:27:38.526
rather than just maintain your current level.
0:27:38.526,0:27:43.196
OK, so how do you deal with[br]unknown vocabulary?
0:27:43.196,0:27:47.501
Well, polyNots - like me - rely on a gloss
0:27:47.501,0:27:49.179
that's some kind of cheat-sheet
0:27:49.179,0:27:50.439
with the words in it,
0:27:50.439,0:27:51.779
which is good for textbooks,
0:27:51.779,0:27:53.519
bad when you're reading Harry Potter.
0:27:53.519,0:27:54.819
There isn't a cheat-sheet.
0:27:54.819,0:27:56.489
So then you jump to the dictionary
0:27:56.489,0:27:57.349
and look every word up
0:27:57.349,0:27:59.379
and it's bloody slow.
0:27:59.379,0:28:01.899
It doesn't half make the book far less interesting
0:28:01.899,0:28:05.079
But polyglots, though...
0:28:05.079,0:28:06.909
guess!
0:28:07.615,0:28:09.615
And this is the central thing.
0:28:09.615,0:28:11.895
Guessing is what it's about.
0:28:11.895,0:28:14.065
Guessing, it has been shown
0:28:14.065,0:28:18.065
- with probes in the brain, apparently -
0:28:18.065,0:28:22.065
[Laughter][br]- I've had probes in many places, but not yet in my brain. -
0:28:22.065,0:28:26.065
- But that's enough bedroom talk. -[br][Laughter]
0:28:26.065,0:28:28.215
So, guessing, it turns out,
0:28:28.215,0:28:30.295
gives longer-lasting and[br]deeper meaning over time.
0:28:30.295,0:28:31.765
You remember things for longer
0:28:31.765,0:28:34.755
and your understanding of them gets much deeper,
0:28:34.755,0:28:38.755
because you've... thought it through.
0:28:38.755,0:28:40.835
And, yeah, there you go
0:28:40.835,0:28:42.805
and repeated encounters with the words
0:28:42.805,0:28:43.985
in different contexts
0:28:43.985,0:28:46.745
mean you think my guess was probably wrong before
0:28:46.745,0:28:48.605
because now the word means something else
0:28:48.605,0:28:49.325
in this context.
0:28:49.325,0:28:51.285
Oh! That doesn't mean you[br]reject the old meaning.
0:28:51.285,0:28:56.015
That means enhance it, enrich it,[br]elaborate it, and broaden it.
0:28:56.015,0:28:57.835
Now good guessing, how does it happen?
0:28:57.835,0:29:00.325
It's not... random guessing.
0:29:00.325,0:29:03.015
It's based on good clues.
0:29:03.015,0:29:05.015
Now knowing similar languages can help.
0:29:05.015,0:29:08.235
"Ah! It's easier for him.[br]He already speaks... whatever."
0:29:08.235,0:29:09.575
Because, you know, it's easy
0:29:09.575,0:29:11.635
'cause that language has got cognates in it
0:29:11.635,0:29:12.775
- words that are similar.
0:29:12.794,0:29:14.474
But it can also hinder
0:29:14.474,0:29:16.134
due to interference between languages.
0:29:16.134,0:29:18.864
And polyglots, though, are aware of this
0:29:18.864,0:29:21.564
and they have mechanisms for managing it
0:29:21.564,0:29:23.724
and that awareness comes from
0:29:23.724,0:29:24.774
guessing lots of times
0:29:24.774,0:29:27.824
and learning when to be careful.
0:29:28.614,0:29:31.324
They rely far more
0:29:31.324,0:29:33.924
on a wide variety of contextual clues
0:29:33.924,0:29:36.154
to make their guesses sensible,
0:29:36.154,0:29:38.764
rather than just on their backgrounds.
0:29:38.764,0:29:41.434
And they evaluate these clues[br]against each another.
0:29:41.434,0:29:42.774
There've been loads of studies
0:29:42.774,0:29:43.534
looking at eye movements
0:29:43.534,0:29:45.874
and all these kinda things
0:29:45.874,0:29:47.494
showing people broadening out
0:29:47.494,0:29:48.794
and narrowing in
0:29:48.794,0:29:50.734
to look for new guesses...
0:29:50.734,0:29:52.304
- And it's an automatic process. -
0:29:52.304,0:29:55.974
- You don't even know you're doing it,[br]once you're doing it. -
0:29:55.974,0:29:58.535
... until they feel that their guess
0:29:58.535,0:30:00.115
is sufficiently well founded,
0:30:00.115,0:30:01.345
or at least as well founded
0:30:01.345,0:30:04.145
as they can make it now.
0:30:05.059,0:30:06.769
So they don't guess randomly.
0:30:06.769,0:30:08.359
They're actually inferring things
0:30:08.359,0:30:09.259
from the context.
0:30:09.259,0:30:11.029
It's informed guessing,
0:30:11.070,0:30:14.710
which increases the chance[br]that the guessing is sensible.
0:30:14.710,0:30:17.514
And, importantly,[br]they're happy not to know everything!
0:30:17.514,0:30:20.084
They will leave things for another time.
0:30:20.084,0:30:21.944
Happy with partial understanding.
0:30:21.944,0:30:24.524
PolyNots hate that.
0:30:25.248,0:30:26.638
All the research, though, shows
0:30:26.638,0:30:28.525
that to notice clues,
0:30:28.525,0:30:30.705
and to evaluate them against one another,
0:30:30.705,0:30:32.345
and then to make good guesses,[br]you need...
0:30:32.345,0:30:35.025
a very strong short term memory.
0:30:35.025,0:30:37.075
And without it,[br]you don't notice the clues.
0:30:37.075,0:30:38.694
You can't remember them.
0:30:38.694,0:30:40.564
You forget them[br]as soon as you've seen them.
0:30:40.564,0:30:42.414
And so you can't evaluate them[br]against each other
0:30:42.414,0:30:45.864
And so your guesses[br]are absolutely useless!
0:30:45.864,0:30:47.444
Like my guesses.
0:30:47.444,0:30:51.444
Thankfully, short term memory[br]can be trained.
0:30:51.444,0:30:52.354
The downside, though,
0:30:52.354,0:30:54.754
is that it gets a lot harder[br]as you get older.
0:30:54.754,0:30:57.274
There's been research by neurologists
0:30:57.274,0:30:59.755
that shows that old guys like me
0:30:59.755,0:31:04.524
have an ever-decreasing[br]short term memory.
0:31:04.524,0:31:08.489
I'm just hoping to hold on to[br]the bits I've got left!
0:31:08.489,0:31:09.739
If you're young like half the pe---
0:31:09.739,0:31:11.389
90 percent of the people here,
0:31:11.389,0:31:14.259
compared to me, are very young.
0:31:14.259,0:31:16.728
Train your memory now, if you need to.
0:31:16.728,0:31:18.385
So, the idea though,
0:31:18.385,0:31:22.415
is to gradually increase[br]your reading span, with recall.
0:31:22.415,0:31:24.485
Just start on a couple of words,
0:31:24.485,0:31:25.725
look away
0:31:25.725,0:31:27.995
and recall what you've just read.
0:31:27.995,0:31:30.595
It doesn't have to be word-for-word,[br]but close.
0:31:30.595,0:31:32.698
Then broaden it, broaden it,[br]and broaden it.
0:31:32.698,0:31:34.148
And it has been found that just doing this
0:31:34.148,0:31:36.928
for 10 minutes a day for 6 weeks
0:31:36.928,0:31:40.718
will make you into a good guesser.
0:31:40.718,0:31:42.404
I guess.[br][Laughter]
0:31:43.714,0:31:44.724
And then...
0:31:45.404,0:31:49.404
So, once you've got the[br]noticing and recall bit,
0:31:49.404,0:31:53.214
then you can start to apply guessing.[br]Yeah?
0:31:53.214,0:31:55.004
You can now recall the clues
0:31:55.004,0:31:56.994
and then you can guess based on them.
0:31:56.994,0:31:58.704
And again, go back to going small,
0:31:58.704,0:32:01.464
expand it out again
0:32:01.464,0:32:04.544
until the guessing becomes automatic.
0:32:04.544,0:32:06.484
And this is what's important:
0:32:06.484,0:32:09.024
automaticity,[br]doing things without thinking anymore.
0:32:09.024,0:32:13.024
By the way, this is where[br]you cannot compress experience.
0:32:13.024,0:32:14.044
You can go through the motions,
0:32:14.044,0:32:15.494
but you can't compress experience,
0:32:15.494,0:32:18.684
because it's automaticity of guessing[br]that you really need.
0:32:18.684,0:32:21.634
Strand 3: Speaking and Writing
0:32:21.634,0:32:24.674
Activation is really hard!
0:32:24.674,0:32:29.624
Learning thousands of words does not mean[br]you'll be able to speak them.
0:32:29.624,0:32:30.848
It doesn't happen magically.
0:32:30.848,0:32:35.458
And polyglots are very good at feeling the fear and doing it anyway.
0:32:35.458,0:32:37.832
This is a Benny type of thing here:[br]["Benny" = Benny Lewis, a well-known polyglot]
0:32:37.832,0:32:40.052
Speak early; speak often!
0:32:40.052,0:32:45.324
10 words is enough to have a good conversation.
0:32:45.324,0:32:48.924
Thankfully for me![br][Laughter]
0:32:48.924,0:32:56.484
2,000 words is considered a mature adult vocabulary[br]for colloquial conversations.
0:32:56.484,0:32:58.201
You don't need 20,000.
0:32:58.201,0:33:01.451
You might for reading literature, but not for talking.
0:33:01.451,0:33:03.521
So how do you activate?
0:33:03.521,0:33:06.041
You saw my big fat book there[br]on vocabulary,
0:33:06.041,0:33:07.831
which is dull and boring.
0:33:07.831,0:33:11.831
Here's my favourite book on activating.
0:33:11.831,0:33:18.411
"How to Improve Your Foreign Language Immediately"[br]by Boris Shekhtman
0:33:18.411,0:33:22.828
You can search on my name and[br]I've got a video about it.
0:33:22.828,0:33:25.478
Why is that book so thin?!
0:33:25.478,0:33:28.958
I want a fat book that... tells me how to activate!
0:33:28.958,0:33:31.258
But there's very little research on this
0:33:31.258,0:33:33.618
and one reason is thought to be
0:33:33.618,0:33:34.508
that historically,
0:33:34.508,0:33:39.008
language teaching is about[br]keeping the student quiet,
0:33:39.008,0:33:41.818
so that they can focus on[br]what they're being taught.
0:33:41.818,0:33:44.398
And there's a load of research[br]in teaching vocabulary,
0:33:44.398,0:33:49.428
very little in the student[br]actually becoming active.
0:33:51.788,0:33:53.660
Richard...
0:33:53.660,0:33:56.852
[Laughter]
0:33:56.852,0:34:00.822
Rehearsing at home helps!
0:34:00.822,0:34:01.554
Just talk to yourself,
0:34:01.554,0:34:03.634
make a fool of yourself,[br]laugh at yourself in the mirror.
0:34:03.634,0:34:07.144
Actually, talking to yourself[br]in front of the mirror
0:34:07.144,0:34:10.704
is one of the best ways[br]to get over the fear of talking in public,
0:34:10.704,0:34:11.634
it turns out.
0:34:11.634,0:34:13.694
Seeing another face.
0:34:13.694,0:34:16.784
Looking yourself in the eye.
0:34:16.784,0:34:17.965
OK.
0:34:17.965,0:34:19.583
Self-talk
0:34:19.583,0:34:22.923
Just repeating everything you see in your daily life
0:34:22.923,0:34:26.943
and these are things[br]that polyNots do not do.
0:34:26.943,0:34:30.310
Polyglots, it turns out,[br]often do these things
0:34:30.310,0:34:32.070
without even realising[br]they're doing them.
0:34:32.070,0:34:34.520
When they are studying vocabulary,[br]very often,
0:34:34.520,0:34:36.050
automatically in the back of their head
0:34:36.050,0:34:38.180
they'll be thinking of[br]how to apply the vocabulary
0:34:38.180,0:34:39.460
and just using it automatically
0:34:39.460,0:34:42.360
rather than thinking,[br]"I've just learned it."
0:34:42.360,0:34:44.020
And this is[br]- perhaps the number one thing -
0:34:44.020,0:34:46.710
is to summarize things.
0:34:46.710,0:34:48.447
We've seen you can use 400 words
0:34:48.447,0:34:51.037
to write Moby Dick[br]and these kinds of books.
0:34:51.037,0:34:54.487
So you can use 400 words to summarize[br]pretty much anything.
0:34:54.487,0:34:56.917
Simplify, simplify, simplify!
0:34:56.917,0:35:00.647
Please practice,[br]to all the PolyNots out there,
0:35:00.647,0:35:02.425
and just... do it.
0:35:02.425,0:35:05.665
And this is another one, "Islands" mean...
0:35:05.665,0:35:08.999
- this is from here -[br]something very important.
0:35:08.999,0:35:10.929
And I'm not going to tell you[br]what it means.
0:35:10.929,0:35:12.929
I want you to buy the book.
0:35:12.929,0:35:15.959
That author deserves it.
0:35:15.959,0:35:17.939
Ok, there you go.
0:35:17.939,0:35:21.939
For writing, again, you only need 400 words[br]to write some pretty good stuff.
0:35:21.939,0:35:25.049
You can write Phantom of the Opera.
0:35:25.049,0:35:28.022
And then you keep elaborating[br]what you've written
0:35:28.022,0:35:29.712
as your vocabulary grows.
0:35:29.712,0:35:31.382
So you could write Phantom of the Opera
0:35:31.382,0:35:32.793
with a 400-word vocabulary,
0:35:32.793,0:35:33.963
and then come back to it
0:35:33.963,0:35:36.433
and write a better version.
0:35:36.433,0:35:38.363
This is what "islands" are about.
0:35:38.363,0:35:42.345
Write loads of things;[br]keep elaborating them.
0:35:42.345,0:35:44.655
Strand 4: Fluency Development
0:35:44.655,0:35:46.455
Oh, what's "fluency"?
0:35:46.455,0:35:49.375
I'm going to go with a really simple definition.
0:35:49.375,0:35:51.485
Fluency is not a magical process
0:35:51.485,0:35:53.135
of sounding like a native. No.
0:35:53.135,0:35:55.995
Fluency is not about a big vocabulary.
0:35:55.995,0:36:02.225
Fluency is about being quick,[br]and smooth, and in control...
0:36:02.225,0:36:04.680
with what you already have.
0:36:04.680,0:36:09.740
You can be fluent with your 10-word[br]vocabulary in conversations.
0:36:09.740,0:36:12.770
And it's training for automaticity.
0:36:12.770,0:36:14.170
People have asked me in the past,
0:36:14.170,0:36:16.320
"How do you think in a foreign language?"
0:36:16.320,0:36:17.810
And my answer is always:
0:36:17.810,0:36:20.810
The aim is to learn not to think at all,
0:36:20.810,0:36:24.306
for the words just to[br]come out automatically.
0:36:24.306,0:36:31.326
Because, it's shown that thinking is[br]too slow for real life. [Laughter]
0:36:31.326,0:36:35.539
And 4 practices have been shown as[br]essential to gaining fluency
0:36:35.539,0:36:38.677
without needing to think[br]when you're having conversations.
0:36:38.677,0:36:40.581
So the first one: Overlearning
0:36:40.581,0:36:42.461
Learn and learn and learn and learn.
0:36:42.461,0:36:44.911
Just because you know a word,[br]you don't know it.
0:36:44.911,0:36:47.744
Keep hitting the word from different angles.
0:36:47.744,0:36:49.524
It'll get deeper inside you.
0:36:49.524,0:36:51.974
Do things at a higher speed[br]than you're comfortable with.
0:36:51.974,0:36:54.014
PolyNots will listen to the radio[br]and think,
0:36:54.014,0:36:56.044
"I can't understand it.[br]It's too quick."
0:36:56.044,0:36:59.014
put it aside, and go back to something[br]really slow in the textbook.
0:36:59.014,0:37:01.584
They never expose themselves[br]to the hard stuff.
0:37:01.584,0:37:03.854
You need to.
0:37:05.191,0:37:08.031
Do "time-boxed" reading and writing:
0:37:08.031,0:37:10.611
"I'm going to read as much as I can[br]in five minutes".
0:37:10.611,0:37:12.201
And you're going for speed.
0:37:12.201,0:37:13.771
Speak. Speak quickly.
0:37:13.771,0:37:15.611
And try not to make stupid errors,
0:37:15.611,0:37:17.049
but mostly go for speed.
0:37:17.049,0:37:17.839
And writing...
0:37:17.839,0:37:20.809
Write an essay as long as you can[br]in five minutes.
0:37:20.809,0:37:22.939
And these prepare you for real life,
0:37:22.939,0:37:25.219
even though you're going to make mistakes.
0:37:25.219,0:37:27.389
And then - another Benny thing -
0:37:27.389,0:37:29.379
get out there in real life
0:37:29.379,0:37:32.269
and have lots of real-life encounters.
0:37:32.269,0:37:36.684
Because that is where all your theory[br]comes into practice
0:37:36.684,0:37:38.722
and you realise you're tongue-tied.
0:37:38.722,0:37:41.152
And the only way to not be tongue-tied
0:37:41.152,0:37:43.082
is to get out there and do it.
0:37:43.082,0:37:46.402
However, even gaining[br]automaticity with words,
0:37:46.402,0:37:48.182
you're still not fast enough.
0:37:48.182,0:37:50.262
Thinking's too slow.
0:37:50.262,0:37:54.262
Automaticity with words is too slow.
0:37:54.262,0:37:59.022
You need automaticity[br]with clusters of words.
0:37:59.022,0:37:59.962
And it's been shown ...
0:37:59.962,0:38:01.612
In other words, these are collocations
0:38:01.612,0:38:02.972
I'm going to use this word[br]"collocations" to mean
0:38:02.972,0:38:08.312
to mean "clusters of words[br]that tend to go together in real life".
0:38:08.312,0:38:10.352
Because research has shown
0:38:10.352,0:38:11.742
that in real-life speech
0:38:11.742,0:38:14.642
- they've recorded native speakers, and so on -
0:38:14.642,0:38:15.922
in authentic speech ...
0:38:15.922,0:38:19.922
and found that they are speaking at rates
0:38:19.922,0:38:21.212
faster than the ...
0:38:21.212,0:38:24.782
[video skipped; see slide: "...brain could possibly recreate..."][br]just building it on grammar and individual words.
0:38:24.782,0:38:26.958
So you need to be able to say things like,
0:38:26.958,0:38:33.768
"You need to be able to say things like".[br][Laughter]
0:38:35.778,0:38:38.175
But collocations are about far more
0:38:38.175,0:38:39.565
than just speed.
0:38:39.565,0:38:41.506
It's not just speed training.
0:38:41.506,0:38:43.336
They deepen our understanding
0:38:43.336,0:38:45.726
of the rich meanings of individual words.
0:38:45.726,0:38:47.886
So, learning chunks[br]also teaches about individual words.
0:38:47.886,0:38:50.806
For example, the word "cause".
0:38:50.806,0:38:53.946
This is just a pretty[br]neutral-sounding word.
0:38:53.946,0:38:56.356
Does "cause" sound positive,[br]or negative, or neutral?
0:38:56.356,0:38:57.366
I'd say neutral.
0:38:57.366,0:39:00.401
But, actually, it turns out it collocates
0:39:00.401,0:39:02.391
with undesirable situations.
0:39:02.391,0:39:04.971
You very rarely say,[br]"That causes happiness."
0:39:04.971,0:39:06.331
But you would say, things like
0:39:06.331,0:39:08.131
"Ooh, that causes concern."
0:39:08.131,0:39:10.041
"He's causing trouble."
0:39:10.041,0:39:11.854
"Oh, that's are real cause[br]for embarrassment."
0:39:11.854,0:39:15.344
"Cause" tends to collocate[br]with negative stuff.
0:39:15.344,0:39:19.344
So don't use it talking about[br]positive stuff so much.
0:39:19.344,0:39:21.234
"Signal" - This is a good word.
0:39:21.234,0:39:23.304
Who knows what "signal" means?
0:39:23.304,0:39:27.304
Oh, nobody?[br][Laughter]
0:39:27.304,0:39:28.404
"Thank you for the signal."
0:39:28.404,0:39:30.464
What does it mean?
0:39:30.464,0:39:36.514
[muffled answer from the audience]
0:39:36.514,0:39:39.916
"She sent the king a signal."
0:39:39.916,0:39:43.326
A message! It's a noun, isn't it?
0:39:43.326,0:39:46.966
"Then saw him signal back."
0:39:46.966,0:39:49.886
Oh, it's a verb!
0:39:49.886,0:39:51.486
Oh, I was wrong!
0:39:51.486,0:39:53.196
Here's a very good one
0:39:53.196,0:39:53.986
that you probably don't know
0:39:53.986,0:39:55.456
unless you're a native speaker.
0:39:55.456,0:39:57.726
"It was a signal honour."
0:39:57.726,0:39:59.196
It's an adjective!
0:39:59.196,0:40:02.996
It means "significant or important".
0:40:02.996,0:40:05.036
And only by hitting the word
0:40:05.036,0:40:07.106
through massive exposure in many contexts
0:40:07.106,0:40:10.326
and understanding[br]the various meanings of things.
0:40:10.326,0:40:13.184
Like, "signal honour" is a collocation
0:40:13.184,0:40:14.574
you see all the time
0:40:14.574,0:40:18.574
if you... read books about signal honours.
0:40:18.574,0:40:22.514
[Laughter]
0:40:23.674,0:40:28.304
And collocations are necessary[br]to sound authentic,
0:40:28.304,0:40:30.414
because a great many things
0:40:30.414,0:40:32.114
that are grammatically correct,
0:40:32.114,0:40:35.874
even if you know[br]all the grammar and the vocabulary,
0:40:35.874,0:40:37.621
well, we just don't say it that way!
0:40:37.621,0:40:39.721
"I want some speedy food."
0:40:39.721,0:40:40.851
"I've not got time,
0:40:40.851,0:40:43.371
I'm gonna get some quick food for lunch."
0:40:43.371,0:40:45.251
Why do they only say "fast food"?
0:40:45.251,0:40:46.871
Because they do!
0:40:48.979,0:40:54.339
And many collocations are grammatically incorrect,
0:40:54.339,0:40:56.995
and you might not even realise it.
0:40:56.995,0:40:58.415
"Go to bed."
0:40:58.415,0:41:01.127
That's grammatically incorrect.
0:41:01.127,0:41:05.761
You don't say, "Go to kitchen."
0:41:05.761,0:41:08.781
It's "Go to the kitchen".
0:41:08.781,0:41:10.151
Why isn't it "Go to the bed"?
0:41:10.151,0:41:15.491
Because it isn't![br][Laughter and clapping]
0:41:15.491,0:41:17.350
Some are just weird...
0:41:17.350,0:41:18.750
"hell for leather"
0:41:18.750,0:41:21.440
Who knows what that even means?
0:41:21.440,0:41:24.300
It means "go fast".
0:41:24.300,0:41:25.950
"He's running hell for leather."
0:41:25.950,0:41:27.410
Quite a rare one,
0:41:27.410,0:41:31.730
but you'll sound bloody authentic[br]if you use it!
0:41:31.730,0:41:33.580
Plenty of them are fossilised...
0:41:33.580,0:41:34.740
"by and large"
0:41:34.740,0:41:37.900
You can't say "by and big".[br][Laughter]
0:41:37.900,0:41:38.780
"Law and order"
0:41:38.780,0:41:39.890
"Bird's eye view"
0:41:39.890,0:41:42.342
If you say "Ooh, let's take[br]a bird's eye look at this,"
0:41:42.342,0:41:44.632
it won't quite sound the same will it?
0:41:44.632,0:41:48.502
"raise an eyebrow" [Laughter]
0:41:48.502,0:41:49.822
But if you say "lift an eyebrow"
0:41:49.822,0:41:50.982
it means the same thing,
0:41:50.982,0:41:53.757
but people will think you're a weirdo.
0:41:53.757,0:41:55.817
That was a very good[br]eyebrow raising there.
0:41:55.817,0:41:57.627
(Audience member) Thank you very much.
0:41:57.627,0:42:01.077
He's got really good eyebrows.
0:42:01.077,0:42:04.207
But as well as understanding fossilisation,
0:42:04.207,0:42:06.720
these ones are the hardest ones[br]to deal with:
0:42:06.720,0:42:08.670
Flexible collocations
0:42:08.670,0:42:11.090
This is the real mark of authenticity.
0:42:11.090,0:42:13.090
You can "entertain an idea".
0:42:13.090,0:42:15.600
You can also "entertain a belief",
0:42:15.600,0:42:17.560
a bit less frequently.
0:42:17.560,0:42:19.430
Entertain a thought,
0:42:19.430,0:42:21.260
a bit less frequent.
0:42:21.260,0:42:23.600
You can say it.
0:42:23.600,0:42:25.870
But these are all collations you'd see.
0:42:25.870,0:42:28.380
And why are you saying "entertain"[br]related to these words??
0:42:28.380,0:42:30.280
You're not doing a song or dance,
0:42:30.280,0:42:32.560
but it's what people say.
0:42:32.560,0:42:35.390
Now, polyglots, then, actually focus
0:42:35.390,0:42:38.050
and favour, often without realising it
0:42:38.050,0:42:40.120
high-frequency collocations
0:42:40.120,0:42:43.150
over low-frequency words.
0:42:43.150,0:42:46.020
Don't bother learning[br]the rare names of fish
0:42:46.020,0:42:47.150
when you can learn things like
0:42:47.150,0:42:48.730
"raise an eyebrow".
0:42:48.730,0:42:49.560
This is important,
0:42:49.560,0:42:51.370
because research has shown repeatedly,
0:42:51.370,0:42:53.970
over about thirty years of research,
0:42:53.970,0:42:57.970
the greatest increases[br]in fluency and authenticity
0:42:57.970,0:43:00.390
come when learners switch their focus
0:43:00.390,0:43:02.354
from yet more low-frequency words
0:43:02.354,0:43:05.264
to automaticity of[br]high-frequency collocations.
0:43:05.264,0:43:07.494
And again, polyglots seems to know this
0:43:07.494,0:43:08.774
and do it automatically.
0:43:08.774,0:43:12.544
PolyNots don't.[br]They add more words to Anki.
0:43:12.544,0:43:15.334
In short, more than 30 years of research
0:43:15.334,0:43:17.874
tells us that native speakers know
0:43:17.874,0:43:20.834
around 20,000 individual words
0:43:20.834,0:43:23.574
but several hundred thousand collocations.
0:43:23.574,0:43:24.634
Can you believe it?
0:43:24.634,0:43:27.144
That's what they're doing[br]all the rest of the time.
0:43:27.144,0:43:28.884
That's what their[br]24-hours-a-day exposure
0:43:28.884,0:43:30.814
for their whole adult life[br]is teaching them.
0:43:30.814,0:43:32.704
Not more vocabulary, but richer, deeper
0:43:32.704,0:43:35.784
meaning in collocations.
0:43:35.784,0:43:37.524
So, to be highly functional in a language,
0:43:37.524,0:43:38.804
whatever that means,
0:43:38.804,0:43:40.184
a learner needs to have
0:43:40.184,0:43:42.964
gained automaticity with about
0:43:42.964,0:43:45.894
4.000 general high-frequency words,
0:43:45.894,0:43:49.894
2,000 specialist words[br]in whatever their area is,
0:43:49.894,0:43:53.674
and tens of thousands[br]of high-frequency collocations.
0:43:53.674,0:43:56.374
And this is what reading[br]all that literature is doing,
0:43:56.374,0:43:59.374
listening to all those materials is doing.
0:43:59.374,0:44:02.280
And then continually enriching[br]through exposure
0:44:02.280,0:44:08.050
the breadth and depth of their knowledge[br]of all that stuff.
0:44:08.050,0:44:11.296
There you go, through life-long exposure.
0:44:11.296,0:44:14.726
And the key to achieving all this
0:44:14.726,0:44:17.266
is to be able to ...
0:44:17.266,0:44:19.986
Guess!
0:44:19.986,0:44:21.796
That's it!
0:44:21.796,0:44:27.596
(applause from the audience)
0:44:27.596,0:44:33.746
(cheers from the audience)
0:44:33.746,0:44:36.746
I'm afraid there's no time for questions.
0:44:36.746,0:44:44.912
(applause and cheers from the audience)
0:44:44.912,0:44:54.992
(continuing applause)
0:44:54.992,0:45:01.772
More![br][Laughter]
0:45:01.772,0:45:04.400
I can't hear my wife clapping![br][Laughter]
0:45:04.400,0:45:05.980
(Richard) I don't think there's going to be any questions.
0:45:05.980,0:45:12.280
I don't think that was a very popular speech, to be honest.[br][Laughter]
0:45:12.280,0:45:18.130
(Richard) Fantastic! I've just realised that I'm a polynot.[br][Laughter]
0:45:18.130,0:45:21.118
I'd never have guessed!
0:45:21.118,0:45:23.678
(Richard) And proud!
0:45:23.678,0:45:26.228
So, no, thank you very much.
0:45:26.228,0:45:29.758
I've got to say, just in preface to this,
0:45:29.758,0:45:31.948
we're friends on Facebook
0:45:31.948,0:45:35.948
(Anthony) Oh no! Don't tell them about my Facebook posts, please!
0:45:35.948,0:45:38.368
I'm keeping everything secret.
0:45:38.368,0:45:40.108
But I did see one post saying
0:45:40.108,0:45:43.836
"I've got three hundred and twenty slides"
0:45:43.836,0:45:46.766
(Anthony) "[unclear] ... and I'm only half way through!"
0:45:46.766,0:45:47.346
And I just thought...
0:45:47.346,0:45:51.216
"Oh my God. What the hell is he going to talk about?"
0:45:51.216,0:45:52.726
(Anthony) So I trimmed it right back down to
0:45:52.726,0:45:55.746
the bare minimum of 262.
0:45:55.746,0:45:58.409
So, um, yeah, imagine my relief
0:45:58.409,0:46:03.629
when I saw it was just 262.[br][Laughter]
0:46:03.629,0:46:05.328
So, I didn't see any of this before
0:46:05.328,0:46:06.528
you saw it today.
0:46:06.528,0:46:08.858
It's all new to me too.
0:46:08.858,0:46:11.633
So, I'm looking forward to questions.
0:46:11.633,0:46:13.003
I'll start at the front.
0:46:13.003,0:46:15.013
Less for me to walk.
0:46:15.013,0:46:17.353
(Q1) First of all, Anthony, that was fabulous.
0:46:17.353,0:46:19.193
- That was absolutely fabulous. [br]- Thank you.
0:46:19.193,0:46:22.293
Second of all, I just wanted to add maybe,
0:46:22.293,0:46:23.883
I have a comment more than a question.
0:46:23.883,0:46:28.943
just... Mezzofanti and Emil Krebs both
0:46:28.943,0:46:32.313
did a lot of this stuff through parallel texts.
0:46:32.313,0:46:33.753
When Emil Krebs died,
0:46:33.753,0:46:38.463
they found a gazillion different copies[br]of the New Testament in his chambers.
0:46:38.463,0:46:42.463
And it is said that Mezzofanti also learned different languages
0:46:42.463,0:46:47.073
through these chunks, these collocations as you're talking about.
0:46:47.073,0:46:50.283
He would perform the last rites and hear confessions
0:46:50.283,0:46:53.133
from soldiers from all over the world.
0:46:53.133,0:46:58.743
- Anyway, it sounds like it was good research. [br]- Thank you.
0:47:00.628,0:47:01.688
(Q2) Hello, Anthony.
0:47:01.688,0:47:03.778
First of all, I want to say thank you for your presentation.
0:47:03.778,0:47:07.257
You were one of the first people that I encountered on YouTube, when I
0:47:07.257,0:47:12.393
- you know - first started to learn languages, and you provided me with some inspiration.
0:47:12.393,0:47:15.259
And so, I'm interested in... I can relate to your experience
0:47:15.259,0:47:18.369
because I believe that when I,... my first encounter with langauge learning
0:47:18.369,0:47:20.305
was when I was at school trying to learn German
0:47:20.305,0:47:24.809
and I believed I had absolutely no talent whatsoever.
0:47:24.809,0:47:30.567
And, I've made significant progress with my Spanish.
0:47:30.567,0:47:32.276
And now I'm living in Madrid.
0:47:32.276,0:47:34.907
I want to hear about your experience
0:47:34.907,0:47:39.387
going from or being a "polynot", as you describe it,
0:47:39.387,0:47:41.667
and - you know - how your process of learning languages has changed,
0:47:41.667,0:47:44.527
and do you feel that you have grown as a language learner
0:47:44.527,0:47:50.357
and that - you know - there's potential for you to become a polyglot one day?
0:47:50.357,0:47:52.362
Um, ok.
0:47:52.362,0:47:54.582
I'm an old man.
0:47:54.582,0:47:58.342
Now, you are supposed to say "Noooo..."
0:47:58.342,0:48:00.139
[Laughter]
0:48:00.139,0:48:04.819
Huh! Thanks!
0:48:04.819,0:48:06.659
Um, yeah.
0:48:06.659,0:48:09.269
I have a twin brother.
0:48:09.269,0:48:13.675
And he saw a very beautiful woman around 18 years old working in a pub.
0:48:13.675,0:48:17.675
And he was speaking to this young woman and flirting a bit and she was flirting back.
0:48:17.675,0:48:22.325
And it hit him. She could be my granddaughter.
0:48:22.325,0:48:26.325
And he said, "Do I seem like a dirty old man to you?"
0:48:26.325,0:48:30.325
And she said, "Yes, but you're a customer so I've got to be nice."
0:48:30.325,0:48:32.685
[Laughter]
0:48:32.685,0:48:33.945
Yeah. And, um...
0:48:33.945,0:48:37.825
I feel a little bit like that with language learning in a way. That...
0:48:37.825,0:48:42.975
I'm sort of the dirty pervert, the peeping tom, [br]looking at all you people
0:48:42.975,0:48:46.919
and enjoying it vicariously. There's a good word.
0:48:46.919,0:48:51.319
But I think I'm getting a little bit better in language learning,
0:48:51.319,0:48:55.129
mainly through learning to be patient.
0:48:55.129,0:48:58.474
But I think I'm too old to ever be fantastic.
0:48:58.474,0:49:01.904
I recently saw some videos by a man who,
0:49:01.904,0:49:07.134
I won't name him, but you may know who he is because of what I'm about to say.
0:49:07.134,0:49:11.559
And he had a list of something like 80 languages he wants to learn in the next 10 or 20 years.
0:49:11.559,0:49:14.423
And he said, "I realise that's unrealistic.
0:49:14.423,0:49:20.173
I've trimmed it down to 72." [Laughter]
0:49:21.628,0:49:23.528
It's great to be ambitious.
0:49:23.528,0:49:26.548
But I don't have time to be ambitious.
0:49:26.548,0:49:29.618
So, I am reasonably good in Czech now
0:49:29.618,0:49:32.538
so that I'm not studying it anymore[br]and I can just live the language.
0:49:32.538,0:49:35.368
And I do study a several other languages
0:49:35.368,0:49:39.028
and if I can get anywhere with them before I die, I'll be happy,
0:49:39.028,0:49:45.128
because now I'm enjoying the journey, not just focusing on the destination.
0:49:45.128,0:49:46.182
Yeah, that's it.
0:49:46.182,0:49:48.082
- (Q3) Hello.[br]- Who's that?
0:49:48.082,0:49:49.732
(Unlear) Iversen and I'm
0:49:49.732,0:49:58.652
And I'm so probably your best example of [... unclear ...] gone mad.
0:49:58.652,0:50:01.532
Because you may know that I have made word lists
0:50:01.532,0:50:07.032
that I've made about... I've counted how many Russian words I've printed on word lists
0:50:07.032,0:50:11.582
since I started my holiday, 14 days ago, that's about 1500.
0:50:11.582,0:50:14.949
But, I have the idea.
0:50:14.949,0:50:18.079
I think that I know what I am now. I'm not a polyglot.
0:50:18.079,0:50:21.069
I'm a polynot, but in 12 different languages.
0:50:21.069,0:50:27.399
- Yeah.[br]- Because everything I see hear and read, I forget.
0:50:27.399,0:50:31.519
But I note it down.[br]And once I've written it down, I remember it.
0:50:31.519,0:50:33.899
And that's why I write all my words down,
0:50:33.899,0:50:36.179
because then I can start guessing.
0:50:36.179,0:50:38.796
And I can't start guessing just because
0:50:38.796,0:50:42.636
I really learned one thing from all your, what was it, 200
0:50:42.636,0:50:46.636
slides, and that was the word polynot.
0:50:46.636,0:50:50.636
[...unclear...] but that's enough.
0:50:50.636,0:50:53.466
Have you thought about different ways
0:50:53.466,0:50:56.366
of getting to the guessing stage...
0:50:56.366,0:51:01.956
apart from being a born polyglot or somebody who works through paper like me.
0:51:01.956,0:51:07.846
But for instance, people who live in places where they have to guess
0:51:07.846,0:51:11.566
because they never know what the next person is going to say to them.
0:51:11.566,0:51:12.996
India, places like that.
0:51:12.996,0:51:16.996
What do they do in a situation where they cannot read,
0:51:16.996,0:51:20.996
they cannot write everything down, and they are not polyglots?
0:51:20.996,0:51:26.276
Yeah. So, I have... sometimes people say,
0:51:26.289,0:51:31.369
on these forums they say, "What language should I learn next?"
0:51:31.369,0:51:33.494
How do I know?!
0:51:33.494,0:51:36.054
The two reasons to learn a language are
0:51:36.054,0:51:37.594
because you have to,
0:51:37.594,0:51:42.424
which provides masses of external force on you to do it,
0:51:42.424,0:51:44.394
or because you want to,
0:51:44.394,0:51:48.604
which provides lots of internal force on you to do it.
0:51:48.604,0:51:52.604
And I think with those pressures, internal and external,
0:51:52.604,0:51:54.404
you'll find a way.
0:51:54.404,0:51:56.874
But when you're at school,
0:51:56.874,0:51:58.284
and somebody's telling you,
0:51:58.284,0:52:00.044
"Now you're learning German."
0:52:00.044,0:52:04.044
There's no actual need.
0:52:04.044,0:52:07.354
So I don't think the automatic - all the antennas are up
0:52:07.354,0:52:11.354
and your guessing abilities will become automatic - will be there.
0:52:11.354,0:52:12.564
Now,
0:52:12.564,0:52:16.511
I am no expert in all this... in this guessing game.
0:52:16.511,0:52:20.691
So you asked what are the different ways of being good at guessing. And I can't guess.
0:52:20.691,0:52:24.557
I don't know. I got most of what I talked about,
0:52:24.557,0:52:29.537
especially the jokes, from this boring textbook.
0:52:29.537,0:52:31.947
But now that I know that guessing is important
0:52:31.947,0:52:34.797
- and I think it's a pretty convincing argument -
0:52:34.797,0:52:39.417
the next stage for me is, how can I transform myself into a good guesser.
0:52:39.417,0:52:40.550
And I don't know.
0:52:40.550,0:52:42.510
If I come to another conference, hopefully I will.
0:52:42.510,0:52:44.730
Maybe I'll be able to give a presentation
0:52:44.730,0:52:50.520
on how a useless guesser became a good guesser in a year.
0:52:50.520,0:52:56.562
[Applause]
0:52:57.549,0:52:59.409
(Q4) Hi. Um...
0:52:59.409,0:53:03.362
I suspect many people may know the answer to this question in the room,
0:53:03.362,0:53:08.762
but I'm curious about how do you quantify how many words you're fluent in.
0:53:08.762,0:53:10.392
You speak about 2000, 4000...
0:53:10.392,0:53:14.742
I have no idea what my vocabulary is even in my native language.
0:53:14.742,0:53:16.072
One very interesting thing is,
0:53:16.072,0:53:17.972
there were a lot of studies
0:53:17.972,0:53:20.972
in the 80s and before that
0:53:20.972,0:53:24.194
about people's vocabulary knowledge.
0:53:24.194,0:53:25.954
And that's because, as I said,
0:53:25.954,0:53:29.254
the main aim of languages then
0:53:29.254,0:53:31.864
was about language teaching[br]and language testing
0:53:31.864,0:53:33.804
rather than language using.
0:53:33.804,0:53:36.744
And they constantly invented tests
0:53:36.744,0:53:39.864
for judging people's vocabulary.
0:53:39.864,0:53:42.444
And, I think it was as late as 1980,
0:53:42.444,0:53:46.444
it was estimated that native speakers at an adult level
0:53:46.444,0:53:50.444
would have a rich vocabulary of around 90,000 words.
0:53:50.444,0:53:54.444
And now that's realised that's a massive overestimate.
0:53:54.444,0:53:59.334
And the tests of vocabulary have become much much much better.
0:53:59.334,0:54:01.493
So that now they estimate it's 20,000.
0:54:01.493,0:54:05.083
And the way they have tested it,
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is by applying lots and lots and lots and lots[br]of different tests
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to find tests that give consistent results.
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Know what I mean?
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So, and then that tells them what the good tests are
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and gives them confidence that their measures are correct.
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And so there are actually papers that test things,
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they show you a shape and say,
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"If this one is smaller than this, then the other one is ...."
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...bigger. Or something like that.
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And I would put "shoe lace". I don't know.
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So, but, there were many many tests, and
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in the back of that book
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it actually has a couple of sample tests
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and refers to loads and loads and loads of others.
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So there were people whose whole career is working out good tests, yeah.
0:54:53.619,0:54:57.636
- (Q5) Um, I was wondering what is the [br]- Who is that?
0:54:57.636,0:55:00.739
- I was wondering what's the title of that thin book that you recommend
0:55:00.739,0:55:03.329
because I didn't get it when you were talking about it.
0:55:03.329,0:55:07.329
Yeah. It's called "How to Improve..."
0:55:07.329,0:55:09.979
Now, the polyglots will remember this title
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and the polynots will have forgotten the first word already,[br][Laughter]
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"How to Improve Your Foreign Language Immediately"
0:55:20.699,0:55:24.963
by Boris Shekhtman. It costs around $10.
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The guy, actually, um...
0:55:28.963,0:55:32.653
is Russian by birth. And he was
0:55:32.653,0:55:35.173
employed by the Foreign Service Institute
0:55:35.173,0:55:37.403
to teach Russian.
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He was the head of teaching Russian
0:55:40.240,0:55:43.390
for diplomats in the US.
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And he taught there for many many many years.
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And he realised that certain practices
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were common to the students that were doing the best.
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And so, when he left the FSI,
0:55:55.280,0:55:56.910
he made his own company
0:55:56.910,0:55:58.290
teaching some of these practices.
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And the main part of it is activating vocabulary:
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how to get passive knowledge into active knowledge.
0:56:04.076,0:56:05.186
And this book,
0:56:05.186,0:56:07.216
there's actually a second edition,
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which apparently has a few more wisdoms in it
0:56:10.066,0:56:13.126
- I don't have that - um...
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But this captures
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practices that you can do
0:56:16.250,0:56:18.370
on your own or with a friend or with a teacher
0:56:18.370,0:56:19.980
on how to activate vocabulary.
0:56:19.980,0:56:22.600
So, "How to Improve Your Foreign Language Immediately".
0:56:22.600,0:56:26.600
Please buy it and support him.
0:56:26.600,0:56:30.600
I learned of him, by the way, from...
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what's his name? Harold...
0:56:34.600,0:56:36.670
who did the Chinese
0:56:36.670,0:56:38.220
- course. [br]- for Michel Thomas.
0:56:38.220,0:56:39.100
Michel Thomas Chinese course.
0:56:39.100,0:56:41.160
- Goodman. Harold Goodman.[br]- Harold Goodman. Yeah.
0:56:41.160,0:56:42.870
So he liked some of my videos
0:56:42.870,0:56:44.790
and said, "Oh, I like your videos."[br]Blah, blah, blah...
0:56:44.790,0:56:47.920
And started... so I had some email exchanges with him.
0:56:47.920,0:56:53.050
And, he was taught languages first by Michel Thomas,
0:56:53.050,0:56:57.050
and said "Michel Thomas died, so I needed a new teacher."
0:56:57.050,0:56:59.860
And he searched high and low and he found Boris Shekhtman,
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and he said, "This guy is phenomenal."
0:57:03.590,0:57:05.180
That got me into buying that book.
0:57:05.180,0:57:07.230
And I agree.
0:57:07.230,0:57:12.015
- Yeah. [br]- (Q6) Hi. So, going back to 'seppe Peano,
0:57:12.015,0:57:13.215
my question is
0:57:13.215,0:57:18.795
which is the influence[br]of the Axiomatic Theory of 'seppe Peano
0:57:18.795,0:57:21.485
on the Axiomatic...
0:57:21.485,0:57:24.785
No, just joking.
0:57:24.785,0:57:30.622
- That's a very interesting question because...[br]- 'seppe Peano invented... No, I'm not finished.
0:57:30.622,0:57:33.542
'seppe Peano invented a language you know....