1 00:00:07,430 --> 00:00:12,323 [ELLEN GALLAGHER: "OSEDAX"] 2 00:00:15,450 --> 00:00:18,727 [MUSIC ECHOES THROUGH GALLERY] 3 00:00:25,668 --> 00:00:29,330 It seems like animation has always been implied in my work, 4 00:00:29,762 --> 00:00:32,363 and has always been moving towards that. 5 00:00:32,702 --> 00:00:34,868 [NEW MUSEUM, NEW YORK CITY] 6 00:00:39,131 --> 00:00:44,699 In the painting, the way that the form is abstracted is like early animation. 7 00:00:47,107 --> 00:00:49,822 I break them down into moving parts. 8 00:01:01,101 --> 00:01:02,927 [SOUND OF PROJECTOR MOTOR] 9 00:01:03,316 --> 00:01:05,462 ["OSEDAX" (2010), EDGAR CLEIJNE & ELLEN GALLAGHER] 10 00:01:05,694 --> 00:01:10,890 Osedax is a bone-devouring worm that was recently discovered 11 00:01:10,890 --> 00:01:12,964 off of the coast of Monterey. 12 00:01:13,162 --> 00:01:17,487 What they thought they came upon was a cliff jutting out from an ocean canyon. 13 00:01:17,689 --> 00:01:21,533 They took off a chunk of it and brought it back into the lab. 14 00:01:23,731 --> 00:01:27,027 And they saw that it actually was a whale bone, 15 00:01:27,226 --> 00:01:29,918 and that there were all these plummy forms coming out of it. 16 00:01:29,918 --> 00:01:32,594 And as they looked at these plummy forms they saw they were a new worm 17 00:01:32,594 --> 00:01:35,320 that hadn't been categorized yet. 18 00:01:38,170 --> 00:01:42,794 I was really attracted to the way the scientists described finding the form. 19 00:01:42,931 --> 00:01:45,396 It was such a literary device. 20 00:01:46,364 --> 00:01:48,333 You think you're seeing one thing, 21 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:51,133 and then it turns out to be something completely different. 22 00:01:53,458 --> 00:01:58,193 This idea of evolution--and evolutionary possibilities-- 23 00:01:58,193 --> 00:02:01,288 quite often repeats in science fiction. 24 00:02:03,132 --> 00:02:06,894 For me, the protocols of science fiction 25 00:02:06,894 --> 00:02:09,935 and the protocols of science are not separate-- 26 00:02:10,531 --> 00:02:12,374 they're woven together. 27 00:02:18,036 --> 00:02:23,298 Whale fall happens as whales descend through the depths of the ocean at their death. 28 00:02:23,659 --> 00:02:26,721 And it carries with it so much knowledge. 29 00:02:28,552 --> 00:02:30,922 So all those secret passages you hear about 30 00:02:30,922 --> 00:02:32,628 between the Atlantic and the Pacific... 31 00:02:32,628 --> 00:02:35,891 All of these routes then become lost. 32 00:02:37,481 --> 00:02:40,469 So I thought that the osedax worm 33 00:02:40,469 --> 00:02:44,680 inscribes these systems of travel into the bone. 34 00:02:46,637 --> 00:02:49,913 And it's a paper box inscribed on both sides 35 00:02:49,913 --> 00:02:52,806 to signify this kind of carving. 36 00:02:59,380 --> 00:03:04,881 Edgar Cleijne and I wanted to create these passageways in the film. 37 00:03:05,143 --> 00:03:09,480 For instance, we turned a blob of ink into a 3D model, 38 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,912 and so this paper bird swims through this--literally-- 39 00:03:12,912 --> 00:03:16,113 through what's a blob of ink is now a tunnel. 40 00:03:20,481 --> 00:03:24,712 Matter is not fixed and is always in motion. 41 00:03:25,605 --> 00:03:30,177 You're dealing with this idea of ecology, transformation, and evolution 42 00:03:30,177 --> 00:03:33,313 into something different.