1 00:00:01,343 --> 00:00:02,982 過百年嚟 2 00:00:02,982 --> 00:00:06,902 電話公司一直協助政府監聽 3 00:00:07,146 --> 00:00:10,564 好多時協助監聽嘅工作係靠人手 4 00:00:10,564 --> 00:00:12,430 監聽係以人手方式進行 5 00:00:12,430 --> 00:00:14,850 線路係由人手接駁 6 00:00:14,850 --> 00:00:16,840 線路裏面嘅通話會被錄到去錄音帶裡邊 7 00:00:17,334 --> 00:00:19,518 就好似其他好多嘅行業一樣 8 00:00:19,518 --> 00:00:21,428 電腦改變咗所有嘢 9 00:00:21,725 --> 00:00:24,768 電話公司喺佢哋網路嘅核心地方 10 00:00:24,772 --> 00:00:26,817 設置咗監聽功能 11 00:00:27,434 --> 00:00:29,344 對於呢樣嘢我想停一停 12 00:00:29,498 --> 00:00:33,828 原來喺我哋通話用嘅電話同網絡 13 00:00:33,828 --> 00:00:36,185 首要考慮嘅嘢係監聽 14 00:00:36,185 --> 00:00:37,932 係優先而且最重要 15 00:00:38,673 --> 00:00:42,589 意思即係話當你同配偶 16 00:00:42,593 --> 00:00:46,899 小朋友、同事、醫生喺度講電話時 17 00:00:46,899 --> 00:00:48,565 有人可以聽到你哋嘅對話 18 00:00:48,901 --> 00:00:51,320 嗰個人可能係你嘅政府 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,627 亦可以係外國政府、一間外國情報機構 20 00:00:55,627 --> 00:00:57,527 駭客、犯案嘅人 21 00:00:57,527 --> 00:00:58,648 跟蹤者或者監視者 22 00:00:58,648 --> 00:01:02,138 抑或任何攻得入監聽系統嘅人 23 00:01:02,138 --> 00:01:06,611 佢哋都可以入侵電話公司嘅監聽系統 24 00:01:07,834 --> 00:01:12,376 但當電話公司以監聽為首要嘅時候 25 00:01:12,380 --> 00:01:14,196 矽谷嘅科技公司就冇噉樣做 26 00:01:14,523 --> 00:01:16,856 而且喺過去幾年 27 00:01:16,856 --> 00:01:20,692 矽谷嘅科技公司愈嚟愈 喺佢哋嘅通訊產品裏面 28 00:01:20,692 --> 00:01:22,710 發展強大嘅加密技術 29 00:01:22,710 --> 00:01:24,980 令到監聽非常之困難 30 00:01:25,416 --> 00:01:27,700 譬如話你哋好多人都用 iPhone 31 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:32,469 如果你用 iPhone 傳送短訊 俾其他用 iPhone 嘅人 32 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:35,453 嗰啲短訊無法輕易噉俾人截取到 33 00:01:35,453 --> 00:01:37,365 而事實上跟據蘋果公司所講 34 00:01:37,365 --> 00:01:40,656 佢哋自己都冇辦法睇到短訊內容 35 00:01:40,662 --> 00:01:42,822 同樣,如果你用 FaceTime 36 00:01:42,822 --> 00:01:44,552 同你嘅朋友或者心愛嘅人 37 00:01:44,552 --> 00:01:47,107 做音訊通話或者視像通話嘅話 38 00:01:47,107 --> 00:01:49,336 同樣都係無法輕易俾人截取到嘅 39 00:01:49,336 --> 00:01:51,085 而且唔只係蘋果 40 00:01:51,315 --> 00:01:53,741 宜家由臉書擁有、全世界用戶有幾億嘅 Whatsapp 41 00:01:53,741 --> 00:01:56,611 都已經喺佢嘅產品裡面 42 00:01:56,611 --> 00:01:59,973 加咗強大嘅加密系統 43 00:01:59,973 --> 00:02:02,400 呢樣亦代表咗聖公會南半球聯盟嘅人都 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,371 唔使喺佢哋政府 —— 通常係專制政府 45 00:02:05,371 --> 00:02:08,485 截取佢哋嘅短訊嘅情況下輕易噉通訊 46 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:16,814 經過一百年嚟 都可以任何時間同任何地方偷聽電話 47 00:02:17,146 --> 00:02:18,146 你都想像到政府官員 48 00:02:18,146 --> 00:02:20,301 對於唔可以再偷聽會非常唔高興 49 00:02:20,301 --> 00:02:21,044 而且事實上 50 00:02:21,044 --> 00:02:22,237 呢樣嘢係發生梗嘅 51 00:02:22,237 --> 00:02:24,440 政府官員宜家好癲 52 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,243 他哋之所以癲並唔係因為 呢啲加密工具出現咗 53 00:02:28,243 --> 00:02:30,101 佢哋最嬲嘅 54 00:02:30,101 --> 00:02:34,302 係科技公司已經將加密功能 擺喺佢哋產品裡面 55 00:02:34,302 --> 00:02:36,549 而且透過預設將佢哋開著 56 00:02:36,549 --> 00:02:38,511 預設至係重點 57 00:02:38,511 --> 00:02:39,755 簡單嚟講 58 00:02:39,755 --> 00:02:42,935 科技公司令加密技術體現咗民主 59 00:02:43,165 --> 00:02:46,906 於是政府官員,好似英國首相卡梅倫噉 60 00:02:46,906 --> 00:02:49,677 都認為所有通訊內容 61 00:02:49,677 --> 00:02:51,857 無論係電郵、短訊、語音通話 62 00:02:51,857 --> 00:02:54,419 都應該係可以俾政府獲取到嘅 63 00:02:54,419 --> 00:02:56,971 而加密技術令到呢件事困難 64 00:02:57,478 --> 00:03:00,726 我宜家對於佢哋嘅睇法超級同情 65 00:03:00,726 --> 00:03:01,886 我哋唔單止活喺一個危險嘅時候 66 00:03:01,886 --> 00:03:03,502 仲係活喺一個危險嘅世界 67 00:03:03,502 --> 00:03:05,286 嗰度真係有壞人 68 00:03:05,286 --> 00:03:08,495 有恐怖分子同其他嚴重嘅國家安全威脅 69 00:03:08,495 --> 00:03:13,025 我估我哋都想聯邦調查局 同國土安全部去監察著 70 00:03:13,345 --> 00:03:16,078 但係呢啲監控工作係有成本嘅 71 00:03:17,357 --> 00:03:20,952 噉係因為嗰度冇一樣嘢叫 恐怖分子手提電腦 72 00:03:20,952 --> 00:03:22,553 或者毒販手機 73 00:03:22,902 --> 00:03:26,095 我哋都用梗同一樣通訊設備 74 00:03:26,557 --> 00:03:30,246 意思係假如毒販嘅電話通話 75 00:03:30,246 --> 00:03:32,741 或者恐怖份子嘅電話通話可以被截聽 76 00:03:32,741 --> 00:03:34,815 我哋都一樣可以俾人截聽 77 00:03:34,815 --> 00:03:36,502 我諗我哋真係需要去問 78 00:03:36,502 --> 00:03:39,727 世界上十億嘅人應唔應該仲用 79 00:03:39,727 --> 00:03:41,526 呢啲方便人哋監聽嘅設備呢? 80 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:49,582 所以我頭先講嘅入侵監聽系統 並唔非係憑空想像嘅 81 00:03:49,582 --> 00:03:50,748 喺 2009 年 82 00:03:50,748 --> 00:03:54,565 谷歌同微軟喺佢哋網絡加設嘅監控系統 83 00:03:54,565 --> 00:03:59,480 一個喺警方合法要求監聽嗰陣 佢哋會提供資料嘅系統 84 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,292 就俾中國政府所破解咗 85 00:04:02,292 --> 00:04:04,287 因為中國政府想搵出 86 00:04:04,287 --> 00:04:07,579 美國政府監察佢哋邊個特務 87 00:04:08,269 --> 00:04:11,200 另一宗破解發生喺2004 年 88 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,023 不明來歷嘅人攻入咗 89 00:04:13,023 --> 00:04:18,891 希臘最大嘅電話公司 「 Vodafone 希臘」網絡裡面嘅監聽系統 90 00:04:18,891 --> 00:04:20,802 個監聽系統就噉俾人 91 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:23,220 用嚟偷聽希臘總理嘅通話 92 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:25,333 同埋內閣成員嘅通話 93 00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:27,385 做呢單嘢嘅外國政府或者駭客 94 00:04:27,385 --> 00:04:28,865 始終冇被搵到 95 00:04:29,955 --> 00:04:30,656 冇錯 96 00:04:30,656 --> 00:04:34,750 監聽系統或者後門存在著好大問題 97 00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:38,116 當你喺通訊網絡或者喺一件科技裏面 98 00:04:38,116 --> 00:04:39,461 整一個後門 99 00:04:39,461 --> 00:04:42,749 你無法子控制邊個會穿過呢個後門 100 00:04:43,243 --> 00:04:45,418 你冇辦法控制到底邊個會用呢道門 101 00:04:45,418 --> 00:04:47,492 無論係你自己嘅人、人哋 102 00:04:47,492 --> 00:04:49,417 好人抑或壞人 103 00:04:49,980 --> 00:04:52,213 所以呢個原因我認為 104 00:04:52,213 --> 00:04:55,535 盡可能建立一個安全嘅網絡會比較好 105 00:04:56,271 --> 00:04:58,720 呢樣意味著將來 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,270 加密技術會令監聽更加困難 107 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,789 意味著警察花喺拉人嘅時間會更艱巨 108 00:05:05,309 --> 00:05:06,309 但如果唔噉做嘅話 109 00:05:06,309 --> 00:05:07,889 我哋就要活喺一個世界 110 00:05:07,889 --> 00:05:12,510 任何人嘅通話、短訊都可以俾犯案嘅人 111 00:05:12,510 --> 00:05:13,794 跟蹤者或者監視者 112 00:05:13,794 --> 00:05:15,294 同埋外國情報機關監聽 113 00:05:15,294 --> 00:05:17,606 而我唔想活喺噉樣嘅世界裡面 114 00:05:18,102 --> 00:05:23,057 所以宜家你可能會有工具阻止政府 115 00:05:23,057 --> 00:05:26,219 喺你電話、喺你手機裡面 一早進行嘅好多唔同形式嘅監聽 116 00:05:26,219 --> 00:05:29,963 你只係可能唔清楚啲工具 有幾強大、幾安全 117 00:05:29,963 --> 00:05:33,522 或者調返轉你一直通訊嘅方式有幾渣 118 00:05:34,737 --> 00:05:36,864 所以我想帶出嘅訊息係 119 00:05:38,110 --> 00:05:39,833 我哋需要用呢啲工具 120 00:05:40,239 --> 00:05:44,503 去保障我哋通話同短訊嘅保安 121 00:05:44,950 --> 00:05:46,642 我希望你哋利用呢啲工具 122 00:05:46,642 --> 00:05:49,912 話俾你哋深愛嘅人、同事知 123 00:05:49,912 --> 00:05:52,320 叫佢地用加密咗嘅通訊工具 124 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,130 唔好因為平同易用就用佢哋 125 00:05:55,134 --> 00:05:57,298 要因為有保安至好用佢哋 126 00:05:57,398 --> 00:05:58,411 多謝 127 00:05:58,711 --> 00:06:00,287 (掌聲)