(Cara StLouis Farrelly) In fact, most people (check) And the way I've come to be sitting with you, Miles, goes back to -- in fact, goes back my whole life -- but specifically to July 2010, when I was living in the State of Maine in the US, Obviously, I am an American. And with my family -- (Miles Johnston ) You're not Canadian? (Cara) I'm not Canadian, no: I am from the American Southwest, actually, which is really sort of germinal to my own personal history, but particularly there, I was living in seacoast Maine, in a little village and my mother had come to be near the grandchildren, because they were all growing up. And she'd been there for about a year and July 11 was a beautiful, sunny Sunday morning in Maine and she got up and she was walking to church, which was about a block and a half from her flat, from where she lived and she had just about reached the other side of the main street, which is, we call it the High Street, it's a very small town, when she was actually run over by a van, a minivan and thrown god knows how far, twenty or (no sound) point my mother was 74 years old, she was definitely, you know, in the latter moments of her life, her lifespan and anyway, just about every bone in her body was broken and she was conscious, believe it or not, taken to the hospital. I joined her there and she died in my arms a few hours later. So, one would have thought that that alone is just a tragedy and a horrific thing to have happen in your life, and of course it is. And, you know, one would have been -- the normal, the natural thing would have been to -- to just receive that as a crazy accident and that something meaningless ended someone's life, although I don't believe anything is an accident or meaningless, or without purpose, but -- the reality is, as the months went by, I couldn't get any information about my mother's death, and that made no sense at all, because it was a small town, she was a little old lady who was crossing the street and she was run over and killed. And I was her sole survivor. I literally had to have an attorney write a letter to the local police authority invoking the Freedom Of Information Act to get even the smallest police report. It made no sense whatsoever. So this really started me thinking something that had been in my guts to begin with, with this death. And that was that, although my mother had started her life as a music teacher, she had, half way through, begun to work for the US government and specifically the military, first the Office of Information here in Nevada and then the US Navy. She worked for weapons entities in Dog Run (check) Virginia and then she was transferred to London, she got a position at the Office of Naval Research here in London, which is a very serious organization in terms of the Navy. People think the NSA is the top dog in (check) but it's not, it's the Navy. The Navy is very much -- (Miles) the senior service (Cara) Senior, the senior spook service. (Miles) It's been around a lot longer. (Cara) You better believe it. That's where it all starts and that's where it all goes down, I mean, it trickles down from the Navy. She was the editor of something called the Fact Sheet for three years, 1989-1991. She had a .... (check) very high social security plan I mean she saw all (blank) in this office were. Eastern block scientists, some Western scientists Lots of operation paperclip scientists, OK, working on weapons, working on atmospheric weapons, electro-magnetics, psychology, scalar weapons, you better believe it, all of that stuff. Now, obviously my mother was not a scientist but she was also not -- she was also a very intelligent woman; and so, even though she might not have understood everything that went across her desk, she certainly understood enough of it that the only thing she ever told me about what she saw was that a lot of it scared the hell out of her: that's all she could ever tell me. OK, so this was 89, 90 and 91. This is what I'm thinking and then, when she retired, she went back to Dog Run (check) after they eliminated that position in London and worked for a Surface Weapons there (check), for the Navy. And then she retired, at the age of 60, moved to Hawaii, and started working with independent contractors. And in Hawaii, that's a huge, huge, huge business, it is their primary business. Tourism is nothing compared to the government contracts business in Hawaii. Anyway, she was technical editor for several companies who were trying to get business with DARPA, another very, very very black entity in the United States. Their funding is endless, bottomless. So, I have to assume and always had to assume that my mother saw lots and lots and lots of things. So here was this little old lady who had been killed for seemingly no reason. Several other people had stopped and she was almost across the street and then boom, she was dead. So, you know this -- because I was trying to get over the actual event, because it really man-handled the entire town, this event, a lot of people saw it, I just kind of lived with it for a while, and then you know what happened, Miles? December 31st, 2010, John Wheeler was killed in DC -- do you remember that? (Miles) remind me (Cara) Well, he was the fellow who supposedly was responsible for getting the Vietnam War Memorial erected, but he was working as an independent contractor for the government, he was a liaison between the Pentagon and some really serious (blank). He was also an adviser, probably a security adviser, I'm trying to remember to three presidents, and they found the guy in a dumpster -- do you remember this? (Miles) no but-- (Cara) Well, they did, they found him in a dumpster (Miles) For the sake of argument (check) just tell it .... (Cara) Yes. December 31st they found this guy in a dumpster. He was a West Point graduate, I mean, his credentials were impeccable, most surely, he was working for Alphabet operations, so he is not -- I mean, one would expect a man like him to be working for all kinds of people like that, but it was so random and so jarring that this had happened that it really reminded me of my mom. And it's not that I thought they knew each other, that's not what I mean at all, it's just that it took me back to this idea that civilians working for the military could just potentially be expendable, yes? OK, so I'm thinking about that on December 31st 2010 and then the next day, January 1st 2011, is the day all the birds started falling from the sky in Arkansas. And the fish start-- well, God knows how long it was actually happening but this is when it came to our attention, tens of thousands of birds fell out of the sky the next day, the next day in Arkansas, and all the fish started washing up on the shores. Yes? (Miles) Which is happening now. (Cara) which has been happening daily, I mean, I've seen lists of what's still going on, it's incredible what's going on. So what that made me think of was myself. was electromagnetic weapons. Atmospheric weapons, you know? and when they tried to describe what happened to these birds there were no outside wounds. they were all internal organs having sort of burst. this is, i mean, this is a different form of weaponry. yeah? and and this brought me back to thinking, wondering, what my mother had scene. and if it was possible that she had, you know, it had been convenient to remove somebody, who by the way in that point in her life could not even remember her own social security number. She was, you know, however one of the people that I worked with, later on, about a year after I started writing the book, and when the book was published. I was trying to get some United States, some attention for it in the United States that would be the sun thief, was Gordon Duff And Duff's embroiled in his own stuff right now but at the time, which was almost two years ago I contacted him and asked him about the situation thinking he might be able to shed some light on it, you know? And the one thing he did say to me was "This happens more often than you can possibly imagine" civilians working for the government are expendable. (9:35)