[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara StLouis Farrelly) In fact, most people (check) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the way I've come to be \Nsitting with you, Miles, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes back to --\Nin fact, goes back my whole life -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but specifically to July 2010, when I was\Nliving in the State of Maine in the US, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Obviously, I am an American. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with my family --\N(Miles Johnston ) You're not Canadian? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara) I'm not Canadian, no: I am\Nfrom the American Southwest, actually, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is really sort of germinal to\Nmy own personal history, but Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly there, I was living in \Nseacoast Maine, in a little village Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my mother had come \Nto be near the grandchildren, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were all growing up. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she'd been there for about a year Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and July 11 was a beautiful, sunny\NSunday morning in Maine Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she got up and she was walking\Nto church, which was about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a block and a half from her flat,\Nfrom where she lived Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she had just about reached \Nthe other side of the main street, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is, we call it the High Street,\Nit's a very small town, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when she was actually run over by a van,\Na minivan Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thrown god knows how far, twenty or\N(no sound) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point my mother was 74 years old, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was definitely, you know, \Nin the latter moments of her life, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,her lifespan and anyway, just about\Nevery bone in her body was broken Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she was conscious, believe it or not,\Ntaken to the hospital. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I joined her there and she died\Nin my arms a few hours later. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, one would have thought that\Nthat alone is just a tragedy Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a horrific thing to have happen \Nin your life, and of course it is. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, one would have been -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the normal, the natural thing \Nwould have been to -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to just receive that as a crazy accident\Nand that something meaningless Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ended someone's life, although\NI don't believe anything is an accident Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or meaningless, or without purpose, but --\Nthe reality is, as the months went by, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't get any information\Nabout my mother's death, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that made no sense at all, \Nbecause it was a small town, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was a little old lady\Nwho was crossing the street Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she was run over and killed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was her sole survivor. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I literally had to have an attorney write \Na letter to the local police authority Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,invoking the Freedom Of Information Act\Nto get even the smallest police report. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It made no sense whatsoever. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this really started me thinking\Nsomething that had been in my guts Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to begin with, with this death. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was that, although my mother\Nhad started her life as a music teacher, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she had, half way through, begun to work\Nfor the US government Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and specifically the military, first the \NOffice of Information here in Nevada Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the US Navy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She worked for weapons entities\Nin Dog Run (check) Virginia Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then she was transferred to London, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she got a position at the Office of \NNaval Research here in London, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a very serious organization\Nin terms of the Navy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People think the NSA is the top dog in (check)\Nbut it's not, it's the Navy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Navy is very much -- \N(Miles) the senior service Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara) Senior, the senior spook service.\N(Miles) It's been around a lot longer. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara) You better believe it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where it all starts \Nand that's where it all goes down, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, it trickles down from the Navy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was the editor of something called\Nthe Fact Sheet for three years, 1989-1991. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had a .... (check)\Nvery high social security plan Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean she saw all (blank) \Nin this office were. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eastern block scientists, \Nsome Western scientists Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lots of operation paperclip scientists, \NOK, working on weapons, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on atmospheric weapons,\Nelectro-magnetics, psychology, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,scalar weapons, you better believe it,\Nall of that stuff. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, obviously my mother was not \Na scientist but she was also not -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was also a very intelligent woman; Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so, even though she might not have\Nunderstood everything Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that went across her desk, she certainly\Nunderstood enough of it Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the only thing she ever told me\Nabout what she saw was that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of it scared the hell out of her:\Nthat's all she could ever tell me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so this was 89, 90 and 91. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what I'm thinking and then,\Nwhen she retired, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she went back to Dog Run (check) Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after they eliminated that position\Nin London Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and worked for a Surface Weapons there (check),\Nfor the Navy. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then she retired, at the age of 60,\Nmoved to Hawaii, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and started working \Nwith independent contractors. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in Hawaii, that's a huge, huge, huge\Nbusiness, it is their primary business. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tourism is nothing compared to the \Ngovernment contracts business in Hawaii. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, she was technical editor for\Nseveral companies who were trying Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get business with DARPA, another very,\Nvery very black entity in the United States. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their funding is endless, bottomless. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I have to assume \Nand always had to assume Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my mother saw lots and lots\Nand lots of things. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here was this little old lady who\Nhad been killed for seemingly no reason. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Several other people had stopped\Nand she was almost across the street Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then boom, she was dead. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you know this -- because I was trying\Nto get over the actual event, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it really man-handled \Nthe entire town, this event, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of people saw it, I just kind of\Nlived with it for a while, and then Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what happened, Miles? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,December 31st, 2010, John Wheeler \Nwas killed in DC -- do you remember that? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Miles) remind me\N(Cara) Well, he was the fellow Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who supposedly was responsible\Nfor getting the Vietnam War Memorial Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,erected, but he was working as an\Nindependent contractor for the government, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he was a liaison between the Pentagon\Nand some really serious (blank). Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was also an adviser, probably\Na security adviser, I'm trying to remember Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to three presidents, and they found\Nthe guy in a dumpster -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you remember this?\N(Miles) no but-- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara) Well, they did, they found\Nhim in a dumpster Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Miles) For the sake of argument (check)\Njust tell it .... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara) Yes. December 31st they found\Nthis guy in a dumpster. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was a West Point graduate, I mean,\Nhis credentials were impeccable, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most surely, he was working for Alphabet\Noperations, so he is not -- Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, one would expect a man like him Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be working for all kinds of people \Nlike that, but it was so random Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so jarring that this had happened \Nthat it really reminded me of my mom. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's not that I thought \Nthey knew each other, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not what I mean at all, it's just\Nthat it took me back to this idea Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that civilians working for the military\Ncould just potentially be expendable, yes? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,OK, so I'm thinking about that\Non December 31st 2010 Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the next day, January 1st 2011, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the day all the birds started falling\Nfrom the sky in Arkansas. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the fish start-- well, God knows\Nhow long it was actually happening Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this is when it came to our attention, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tens of thousands of birds \Nfell out of the sky the next day, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the next day in Arkansas, and all \Nthe fish started washing up on the shores. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes?\N(Miles) Which is happening now. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Cara) which has been happening daily,\NI mean, I've seen lists Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what's still going on, it's incredible\Nwhat's going on. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what that made me think of was myself. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was electromagnetic weapons. Atmospheric weapons, you know? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when they tried to describe what happened to these birds there were no Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside wounds. they were all internal organs having sort of burst. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is, i mean, this is a different form of weaponry. yeah? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and this brought me back to thinking, wondering, what my mother had scene. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if it was possible that she had, you know, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it had been convenient to remove somebody, who by the way Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that point in her life could not even remember her own Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,social security number. She was, you know, however Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the people that I worked with, later on, about Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a year after I started writing the book, and when the book was published. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was trying to get some United States, some attention for it in the United States Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would be the sun thief, was Gordon Duff Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Duff's embroiled in his own stuff right now but Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the time, which was almost two years ago Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I contacted him and asked him about the situation Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking he might be able\Nto shed some light on it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the one thing he did say to me was Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This happens more often than you can possibly imagine" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,civilians working for the government are expendable. (9:35)