1 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara StLouis Farrelly) In fact, most people (check) 2 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the way I've come to be sitting with you, Miles, 3 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 goes back to -- in fact, goes back my whole life -- 4 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but specifically to July 2010, when I was living in the State of Maine in the US, 5 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Obviously, I am an American. 6 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And with my family -- (Miles Johnston ) You're not Canadian? 7 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara) I'm not Canadian, no: I am from the American Southwest, actually, 8 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is really sort of germinal to my own personal history, but 9 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 particularly there, I was living in seacoast Maine, in a little village 10 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and my mother had come to be near the grandchildren, 11 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because they were all growing up. 12 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And she'd been there for about a year 13 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and July 11 was a beautiful, sunny Sunday morning in Maine 14 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she got up and she was walking to church, which was about 15 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a block and a half from her flat, from where she lived 16 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she had just about reached the other side of the main street, 17 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is, we call it the High Street, it's a very small town, 18 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 when she was actually run over by a van, a minivan 19 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and thrown god knows how far, twenty or (no sound) 20 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 point my mother was 74 years old, 21 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she was definitely, you know, in the latter moments of her life, 22 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 her lifespan and anyway, just about every bone in her body was broken 23 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she was conscious, believe it or not, taken to the hospital. 24 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I joined her there and she died in my arms a few hours later. 25 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, one would have thought that that alone is just a tragedy 26 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and a horrific thing to have happen in your life, and of course it is. 27 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And, you know, one would have been -- 28 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the normal, the natural thing would have been to -- 29 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to just receive that as a crazy accident and that something meaningless 30 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 ended someone's life, although I don't believe anything is an accident 31 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 or meaningless, or without purpose, but -- the reality is, as the months went by, 32 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I couldn't get any information about my mother's death, 33 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and that made no sense at all, because it was a small town, 34 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she was a little old lady who was crossing the street 35 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and she was run over and killed. 36 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And I was her sole survivor. 37 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I literally had to have an attorney write a letter to the local police authority 38 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 invoking the Freedom Of Information Act to get even the smallest police report. 39 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 It made no sense whatsoever. 40 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So this really started me thinking something that had been in my guts 41 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to begin with, with this death. 42 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And that was that, although my mother had started her life as a music teacher, 43 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she had, half way through, begun to work for the US government 44 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and specifically the military, first the Office of Information here in Nevada 45 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then the US Navy. 46 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She worked for weapons entities in Dog Run (check) Virginia 47 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then she was transferred to London, 48 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she got a position at the Office of Naval Research here in London, 49 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 which is a very serious organization in terms of the Navy. 50 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 People think the NSA is the top dog in (check) but it's not, it's the Navy. 51 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 The Navy is very much -- (Miles) the senior service 52 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara) Senior, the senior spook service. (Miles) It's been around a lot longer. 53 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara) You better believe it. 54 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 That's where it all starts and that's where it all goes down, 55 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, it trickles down from the Navy. 56 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She was the editor of something called the Fact Sheet for three years, 1989-1991. 57 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 She had a .... (check) very high social security plan 58 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean she saw all (blank) in this office were. 59 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Eastern block scientists, some Western scientists 60 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Lots of operation paperclip scientists, OK, working on weapons, 61 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 working on atmospheric weapons, electro-magnetics, psychology, 62 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 scalar weapons, you better believe it, all of that stuff. 63 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Now, obviously my mother was not a scientist but she was also not -- 64 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she was also a very intelligent woman; 65 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so, even though she might not have understood everything 66 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that went across her desk, she certainly understood enough of it 67 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that the only thing she ever told me about what she saw was that 68 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a lot of it scared the hell out of her: that's all she could ever tell me. 69 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, so this was 89, 90 and 91. 70 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 This is what I'm thinking and then, when she retired, 71 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 she went back to Dog Run (check) 72 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 after they eliminated that position in London 73 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and worked for a Surface Weapons there (check), for the Navy. 74 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And then she retired, at the age of 60, moved to Hawaii, 75 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and started working with independent contractors. 76 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And in Hawaii, that's a huge, huge, huge business, it is their primary business. 77 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Tourism is nothing compared to the government contracts business in Hawaii. 78 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Anyway, she was technical editor for several companies who were trying 79 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to get business with DARPA, another very, very very black entity in the United States. 80 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Their funding is endless, bottomless. 81 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, I have to assume and always had to assume 82 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that my mother saw lots and lots and lots of things. 83 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So here was this little old lady who had been killed for seemingly no reason. 84 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Several other people had stopped and she was almost across the street 85 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then boom, she was dead. 86 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So, you know this -- because I was trying to get over the actual event, 87 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 because it really man-handled the entire town, this event, 88 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a lot of people saw it, I just kind of lived with it for a while, and then 89 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you know what happened, Miles? 90 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 December 31st, 2010, John Wheeler was killed in DC -- do you remember that? 91 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Miles) remind me (Cara) Well, he was the fellow 92 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 who supposedly was responsible for getting the Vietnam War Memorial 93 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 erected, but he was working as an independent contractor for the government, 94 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 he was a liaison between the Pentagon and some really serious (blank). 95 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was also an adviser, probably a security adviser, I'm trying to remember 96 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to three presidents, and they found the guy in a dumpster -- 97 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 do you remember this? (Miles) no but-- 98 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara) Well, they did, they found him in a dumpster 99 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Miles) For the sake of argument (check) just tell it .... 100 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara) Yes. December 31st they found this guy in a dumpster. 101 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 He was a West Point graduate, I mean, his credentials were impeccable, 102 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 most surely, he was working for Alphabet operations, so he is not -- 103 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I mean, one would expect a man like him 104 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 to be working for all kinds of people like that, but it was so random 105 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and so jarring that this had happened that it really reminded me of my mom. 106 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And it's not that I thought they knew each other, 107 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that's not what I mean at all, it's just that it took me back to this idea 108 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that civilians working for the military could just potentially be expendable, yes? 109 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 OK, so I'm thinking about that on December 31st 2010 110 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and then the next day, January 1st 2011, 111 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 is the day all the birds started falling from the sky in Arkansas. 112 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the fish start-- well, God knows how long it was actually happening 113 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 but this is when it came to our attention, 114 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 tens of thousands of birds fell out of the sky the next day, 115 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 the next day in Arkansas, and all the fish started washing up on the shores. 116 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 Yes? (Miles) Which is happening now. 117 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 (Cara) which has been happening daily, I mean, I've seen lists 118 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 of what's still going on, it's incredible what's going on. 119 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 So what that made me think of was myself. 120 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 was electromagnetic weapons. Atmospheric weapons, you know? 121 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and when they tried to describe what happened to these birds there were no 122 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 outside wounds. they were all internal organs having sort of burst. 123 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 this is, i mean, this is a different form of weaponry. yeah? 124 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and and this brought me back to thinking, wondering, what my mother had scene. 125 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 and if it was possible that she had, you know, 126 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 it had been convenient to remove somebody, who by the way 127 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 in that point in her life could not even remember her own 128 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 social security number. She was, you know, however 129 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 one of the people that I worked with, later on, about 130 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 a year after I started writing the book, and when the book was published. 131 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I was trying to get some United States, some attention for it in the United States 132 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 that would be the sun thief, was Gordon Duff 133 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And Duff's embroiled in his own stuff right now but 134 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 at the time, which was almost two years ago 135 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 I contacted him and asked him about the situation 136 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 thinking he might be able to shed some light on it, 137 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 you know? 138 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 And the one thing he did say to me was 139 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 "This happens more often than you can possibly imagine" 140 99:59:59,999 --> 99:59:59,999 civilians working for the government are expendable. 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