1 00:00:15,012 --> 00:00:17,409 (Circus music) 2 00:00:21,725 --> 00:00:24,526 [Ted N' Ed's Carnival] 3 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:28,475 [John Lloyd's Inventory of the Invisible] 4 00:00:39,124 --> 00:00:41,578 [Adapted from a TEDTalk given by John Lloyd in 2009] 5 00:00:41,602 --> 00:00:44,242 June Cohen: Our next speaker has spent his whole career 6 00:00:44,266 --> 00:00:45,766 eliciting that sense of wonder. 7 00:00:45,790 --> 00:00:47,142 Please welcome John Lloyd. 8 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:48,242 (Applause) 9 00:00:48,266 --> 00:00:49,422 [Hall of Mirrors] 10 00:00:50,871 --> 00:00:53,201 The question is, "What is invisible?" 11 00:00:53,225 --> 00:00:55,654 There's more of it than you think, actually. 12 00:00:55,678 --> 00:00:58,389 Everything, I would say -- everything that matters -- 13 00:00:58,413 --> 00:01:02,620 Except every thing, and except matter. 14 00:01:02,644 --> 00:01:04,066 We can see matter 15 00:01:04,090 --> 00:01:06,718 but we can't see what's the matter. 16 00:01:06,742 --> 00:01:11,850 We can see the stars and the planets but we can't see what holds them apart, 17 00:01:11,874 --> 00:01:13,248 or what draws them together. 18 00:01:14,191 --> 00:01:17,001 With matter as with people, we see only the skin of things, 19 00:01:17,025 --> 00:01:20,806 we can't see into the engine room, we can't see what makes people tick, 20 00:01:20,830 --> 00:01:22,354 at least not without difficulty, 21 00:01:22,378 --> 00:01:25,998 and the closer we look at anything, the more it disappears. 22 00:01:26,022 --> 00:01:28,223 In fact, if you look really closely at stuff, 23 00:01:28,247 --> 00:01:30,590 if you look at the basic substructure of matter, 24 00:01:30,614 --> 00:01:32,026 there isn't anything there. 25 00:01:32,050 --> 00:01:35,196 Electrons disappear in a kind of fuzz, and there is only energy. 26 00:01:35,220 --> 00:01:37,724 One of the interesting things about invisibility is, 27 00:01:37,748 --> 00:01:40,670 the things that we can's see, we also can't understand. 28 00:01:40,694 --> 00:01:44,844 Gravity is one thing that we can't see, and which we don't understand. 29 00:01:44,868 --> 00:01:47,773 It's the least understood of all the four fundamental forces, 30 00:01:47,797 --> 00:01:51,340 and the weakest, and nobody really knows what it is or why it's there. 31 00:01:51,364 --> 00:01:55,031 For what it's worth, Sir Isaac Newton, the greatest scientist who ever lived, 32 00:01:55,055 --> 00:01:57,493 he thought Jesus came to Earth specifically 33 00:01:57,517 --> 00:01:59,375 to operate the levers of gravity. 34 00:01:59,399 --> 00:02:01,304 That's what he thought he was there for. 35 00:02:01,328 --> 00:02:04,051 So, bright guy, could be wrong on that one, I don't know. 36 00:02:04,075 --> 00:02:05,089 (Laughter) 37 00:02:05,113 --> 00:02:09,758 Consciousness. I see all your faces; I've no idea what any of you are thinking. 38 00:02:09,782 --> 00:02:10,850 Isn't that amazing? 39 00:02:10,874 --> 00:02:13,636 Isn't it incredible that we can't read each other's minds, 40 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:16,052 when we can touch each other, taste each other, 41 00:02:16,076 --> 00:02:19,410 perhaps, if we get close enough, but we can't read each other's minds. 42 00:02:19,434 --> 00:02:20,944 I find that quite astonishing. 43 00:02:20,968 --> 00:02:23,908 In the Sufi faith, this great Middle Eastern religion 44 00:02:23,932 --> 00:02:26,241 which some claim is the root of all religions, 45 00:02:26,265 --> 00:02:31,021 Sufi masters are all telepaths, so they say, 46 00:02:31,045 --> 00:02:33,548 but their main exercise of telepathy 47 00:02:33,572 --> 00:02:37,674 is to send out powerful signals to the rest of us that it doesn't exist. 48 00:02:37,698 --> 00:02:41,032 So that's why we don't think it exists; the Sufi masters working on us. 49 00:02:41,818 --> 00:02:45,217 In the question of consciousness and artificial intelligence, 50 00:02:45,241 --> 00:02:48,462 artificial intelligence has really, like the study of consciousness, 51 00:02:48,486 --> 00:02:51,115 gotten nowhere, we have no idea how consciousness works. 52 00:02:51,139 --> 00:02:53,764 Not only have they not created artificial intelligence, 53 00:02:53,788 --> 00:02:56,193 they haven't yet created artificial stupidity. 54 00:02:56,217 --> 00:02:57,969 (Laughter) 55 00:02:57,993 --> 00:03:02,085 The laws of physics: invisible, eternal, omnipresent, all powerful. 56 00:03:02,109 --> 00:03:03,251 Remind you of anyone? 57 00:03:04,052 --> 00:03:05,396 Interesting. 58 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:08,586 I'm, as you can guess, not a materialist, I'm an immaterialist. 59 00:03:08,610 --> 00:03:11,358 And I've found a very useful new word -- ignostic. 60 00:03:11,382 --> 00:03:12,640 Okay? I'm an ignostic. 61 00:03:12,664 --> 00:03:13,721 [God?] 62 00:03:13,745 --> 00:03:16,460 I refuse to be drawn on the question on whether God exists 63 00:03:16,484 --> 00:03:18,608 until somebody properly defines the terms. 64 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:21,257 Another thing we can't see is the human genome. 65 00:03:21,281 --> 00:03:26,275 And this is increasingly peculiar, because about 20 years ago 66 00:03:26,299 --> 00:03:30,157 when they started delving into the genome, they thought it would probably contain 67 00:03:30,181 --> 00:03:31,489 around 100 thousand genes. 68 00:03:31,513 --> 00:03:34,874 Every year since, it's been revised downwards. 69 00:03:34,898 --> 00:03:38,291 We now think there are likely to be just over 20 thousand genes 70 00:03:38,315 --> 00:03:39,531 in the human genome. 71 00:03:39,555 --> 00:03:42,809 This is extraordinary, because rice -- get this -- 72 00:03:42,833 --> 00:03:45,775 rice is known to have 38 thousand genes. 73 00:03:45,799 --> 00:03:50,800 Potatoes have 48 chromosomes, two more than people, 74 00:03:50,824 --> 00:03:52,384 and the same as a gorilla. 75 00:03:52,408 --> 00:03:53,878 (Laughter) 76 00:03:55,365 --> 00:03:58,341 You can't see these things, but they are very strange. 77 00:03:58,365 --> 00:04:01,058 The stars by day, I always think that's fascinating. 78 00:04:01,082 --> 00:04:02,387 The universe disappears. 79 00:04:02,411 --> 00:04:04,687 The more light there is, the less you can see. 80 00:04:05,811 --> 00:04:08,180 Time. Nobody can see time. 81 00:04:08,204 --> 00:04:09,673 I don't know if you know this. 82 00:04:09,697 --> 00:04:12,424 There's a big movement in modern physics 83 00:04:12,448 --> 00:04:14,458 to decide that time doesn't really exist, 84 00:04:14,482 --> 00:04:16,789 because it's too inconvenient for the figures. 85 00:04:16,813 --> 00:04:18,839 It's much easier if it's not really there. 86 00:04:18,863 --> 00:04:21,223 You can't see the future, obviously, 87 00:04:21,247 --> 00:04:23,943 and you can't see the past, except in your memory. 88 00:04:23,967 --> 00:04:26,030 One of the interesting things about the past 89 00:04:26,054 --> 00:04:27,673 is you particularly can't see -- 90 00:04:27,697 --> 00:04:29,373 my son asked me this the other day, 91 00:04:29,397 --> 00:04:31,936 "Dad, can you remember what I was like when I was two? 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,968 And I said, "Yes." He said, "Why can't I?" 93 00:04:33,992 --> 00:04:35,184 Isn't that extraordinary? 94 00:04:35,208 --> 00:04:39,294 You cannot remember what happened to you earlier than the age of two or three. 95 00:04:39,318 --> 00:04:43,159 Which is great news for psychoanalysts, because otherwise they'd be out of a job. 96 00:04:43,183 --> 00:04:45,595 Because that's where all the stuff happens 97 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:48,064 (Laughter) 98 00:04:48,088 --> 00:04:49,728 that makes you who you are. 99 00:04:51,359 --> 00:04:54,145 Another thing you can't see is the grid on which we hang. 100 00:04:54,169 --> 00:04:55,192 This is fascinating. 101 00:04:55,216 --> 00:04:58,689 You probably know, some of you, that cells are continually renewed. 102 00:04:58,713 --> 00:05:01,891 Skin flakes off, hairs grow, nails, that kind of stuff -- 103 00:05:01,915 --> 00:05:05,024 but every cell in your body is replaced at some point. 104 00:05:05,048 --> 00:05:07,491 Taste buds, every ten days or so. 105 00:05:07,515 --> 00:05:10,258 Livers and internal organs take a bit longer. 106 00:05:10,282 --> 00:05:11,908 Spine takes several years. 107 00:05:11,932 --> 00:05:15,463 But at the end of seven years, not one cell in your body 108 00:05:15,487 --> 00:05:18,275 remains from what was there seven years ago. 109 00:05:18,299 --> 00:05:21,088 The question is: who then are we? What are we? 110 00:05:21,112 --> 00:05:23,123 What is this thing that we hang on? 111 00:05:23,147 --> 00:05:24,680 That is actually us? 112 00:05:24,704 --> 00:05:27,812 Atoms, can't see them. Nobody ever will. 113 00:05:27,836 --> 00:05:29,973 They're smaller than the wavelength of light. 114 00:05:29,997 --> 00:05:31,268 Gas, can't see that. 115 00:05:31,292 --> 00:05:33,633 Interesting, somebody mentioned 1600 recently. 116 00:05:33,657 --> 00:05:37,434 Gas was invented in 1600 by a Dutch chemist called van Helmont. 117 00:05:38,448 --> 00:05:43,825 It's said to be the most successful ever invention of a word by a known individual. 118 00:05:43,849 --> 00:05:49,340 Quite good. He also invented a word called "blas," meaning astral radiation. 119 00:05:49,364 --> 00:05:51,253 Didn't catch on, unfortunately. 120 00:05:51,277 --> 00:05:52,278 (Laughter) 121 00:05:52,302 --> 00:05:53,373 But well done, him. 122 00:05:53,397 --> 00:05:55,598 Light -- you can't see light. 123 00:05:55,622 --> 00:05:57,036 When it's dark, in a vacuum, 124 00:05:57,060 --> 00:05:59,225 if a person shines a beam of light 125 00:05:59,249 --> 00:06:01,480 straight across your eyes, you won't see it. 126 00:06:01,504 --> 00:06:04,348 Slightly technical, some physicists will disagree with this. 127 00:06:04,372 --> 00:06:06,713 But it's odd that you can't see the beam of light, 128 00:06:06,737 --> 00:06:08,222 you can only see what it hits. 129 00:06:08,246 --> 00:06:09,603 Electricity, can't see that. 130 00:06:09,627 --> 00:06:12,771 Don't let anyone tell you they understand electricity, they don't. 131 00:06:12,795 --> 00:06:13,957 Nobody knows what it is. 132 00:06:13,981 --> 00:06:14,988 (Laughter) 133 00:06:15,012 --> 00:06:18,520 You probably think the electrons in an electric wire move instantaneously 134 00:06:18,544 --> 00:06:20,934 down a wire, don't you, at the speed of light, 135 00:06:20,958 --> 00:06:23,030 when you turn the light on, they don't. 136 00:06:23,054 --> 00:06:24,697 Electrons bumble down the wire, 137 00:06:24,721 --> 00:06:27,109 about the speed of spreading honey, they say. 138 00:06:27,133 --> 00:06:28,868 Galaxies -- hundred billion of them, 139 00:06:28,892 --> 00:06:30,974 estimated in the universe. Hundred billion. 140 00:06:30,998 --> 00:06:32,345 How many can we see? 141 00:06:32,369 --> 00:06:36,041 Five. Five, out of a hundred billion galaxies, with the naked eye. 142 00:06:36,065 --> 00:06:39,828 And one of them is quite difficult to see, unless you've got very good eyesight. 143 00:06:39,852 --> 00:06:41,541 Radio waves. There's another thing. 144 00:06:41,565 --> 00:06:44,752 Heinrich Hertz, when he discovered radio waves, in 1887, 145 00:06:44,776 --> 00:06:47,158 he called them radio waves because they radiated. 146 00:06:47,182 --> 00:06:50,017 Somebody said to him, "What's the point of these, Heinrich? 147 00:06:50,041 --> 00:06:52,750 What's the point of these radio waves that you've found?" 148 00:06:52,774 --> 00:06:54,369 And he said, "Well, I've no idea, 149 00:06:54,393 --> 00:06:56,976 but I guess somebody will find a use for them someday. 150 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,037 The biggest thing that's invisible to us is what we don't know. 151 00:07:00,061 --> 00:07:02,974 It is incredible how little we know. 152 00:07:02,998 --> 00:07:04,297 Thomas Edison once said, 153 00:07:04,321 --> 00:07:08,924 "We don't know one percent of one millionth about anything." 154 00:07:08,948 --> 00:07:12,090 And I've come to the conclusion -- 155 00:07:12,114 --> 00:07:15,584 because you ask this other question: "What's another thing we can't see?" 156 00:07:15,608 --> 00:07:17,557 The point, most of us. What's the point? 157 00:07:17,581 --> 00:07:19,343 The point -- what I've got it down to 158 00:07:19,367 --> 00:07:21,867 is there are only two questions really worth asking. 159 00:07:21,891 --> 00:07:22,903 "Why are we here?", 160 00:07:22,927 --> 00:07:25,448 and "What should we do about it while we are?" 161 00:07:25,472 --> 00:07:29,509 To help you, I've got two things to leave you with, from two great philosophers, 162 00:07:29,533 --> 00:07:32,819 perhaps two of the greatest philosopher thinkers of the 20th century. 163 00:07:32,843 --> 00:07:35,609 One a mathematician and engineer, and the other a poet. 164 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:38,423 The first is Ludwig Wittgenstein, 165 00:07:38,447 --> 00:07:41,229 who said, "I don't know why we are here, 166 00:07:41,253 --> 00:07:44,109 but I am pretty sure it's not in order to enjoy ourselves." 167 00:07:44,133 --> 00:07:45,165 (Laughter) 168 00:07:45,189 --> 00:07:47,092 He was a cheerful bastard, wasn't he? 169 00:07:47,116 --> 00:07:48,282 (Laughter) 170 00:07:48,306 --> 00:07:53,804 And secondly, and lastly, W.H. Auden, one of my favorite poets, 171 00:07:53,828 --> 00:07:58,439 who said, "We are here on Earth to help others. 172 00:07:58,463 --> 00:08:01,857 What the others are here for, I've no idea." 173 00:08:01,881 --> 00:08:03,400 (Laughter) 174 00:08:03,424 --> 00:08:06,079 (Applause) 175 00:08:06,103 --> 00:08:07,274 (Circus music) 176 00:08:07,298 --> 00:08:08,958 [Get your souvenir photo here!] 177 00:08:08,982 --> 00:08:11,738 [Continue your journey into the unknown!] 178 00:08:11,762 --> 00:08:13,788 (Circus music)