0:00:08.492,0:00:13.518 When I was 21 years old, [br]I could only speak English, 0:00:13.518,0:00:16.456 which is typical for those of us [br]from English-speaking countries, 0:00:16.456,0:00:19.485 and I had many reasons why 0:00:19.485,0:00:22.271 this is going to be the case for me[br]for the rest of my life. 0:00:22.271,0:00:23.764 And I was very confident of this, 0:00:23.764,0:00:26.509 because I had no natural talent, 0:00:26.509,0:00:28.758 I had a very bad memory, 0:00:28.758,0:00:31.258 I couldn't travel to the country yet, 0:00:31.258,0:00:33.461 I was too old, I felt too old 0:00:34.266,0:00:35.523 and I was sure 0:00:35.523,0:00:37.960 that I was going to frustrate [br]the native speakers 0:00:37.960,0:00:39.528 and embarrass myself. 0:00:39.528,0:00:41.284 And on top of this, in school, 0:00:41.284,0:00:43.760 I did really poorly with languages. 0:00:43.760,0:00:48.507 So, I did actually get the opportunity[br]to get into languages 0:00:48.507,0:00:50.279 after I graduated at university 0:00:50.279,0:00:52.247 with a degree in Electronic Engineering, 0:00:52.247,0:00:54.029 still only able to speak English, 0:00:54.029,0:00:55.283 I moved to Spain. 0:00:55.283,0:00:57.023 And I figured, this is it! 0:00:57.023,0:00:58.247 this is going to solve my problems, 0:00:58.247,0:00:59.774 living in the country. 0:01:00.824,0:01:01.541 No! 0:01:01.541,0:01:04.256 Six months later of living in Spain, 0:01:04.256,0:01:05.855 I couldn't speak any Spanish. 0:01:06.760,0:01:10.240 Now, a sensible person [br]would have given up at this stage 0:01:10.240,0:01:11.504 and gotten the point. 0:01:11.504,0:01:12.790 I'm not very sensible though. 0:01:12.790,0:01:14.771 So I figured 0:01:14.771,0:01:16.768 if I change my approach 0:01:16.768,0:01:19.213 and change my attitude, 0:01:19.753,0:01:22.311 maybe I can change my language skills. 0:01:23.278,0:01:26.521 And what happened to inspire me [br]to get into language learning 0:01:26.521,0:01:29.264 was I met a polyglot. 0:01:29.264,0:01:32.761 A polyglot is someone[br]who can speak many languages. 0:01:32.761,0:01:34.902 And the first time[br]you meet someone like that, 0:01:34.902,0:01:37.773 you can't help[br]but feel really impressed. 0:01:37.773,0:01:41.753 Like, for instance[br]there's Richard from the UK, 0:01:41.753,0:01:45.023 and there's one video online[br]where he speaks 16 languages. 0:01:45.023,0:01:47.261 Let me just show you a little clip here 0:01:47.261,0:01:49.834 and you can see him: 0:01:51.255,0:01:53.274 French, 0:01:53.274,0:01:54.520 Estonian, 0:01:54.520,0:01:55.779 Czech 0:01:55.779,0:01:56.776 and Catalan 0:01:56.776,0:01:58.042 which is pretty impressive. 0:01:58.042,0:02:00.503 We also have Luca from Italy, 0:02:00.503,0:02:04.269 and here you can hear him speak in: 0:02:04.269,0:02:05.166 German 0:02:06.776,0:02:08.263 and Portuguese. 0:02:08.263,0:02:09.748 And we also have Susana, 0:02:09.748,0:02:12.061 who goes through here: 0:02:13.813,0:02:14.701 Italian 0:02:16.519,0:02:17.873 Russian. 0:02:18.760,0:02:21.783 And a very impressive video I saw once 0:02:21.783,0:02:26.016 of this 16-year-old [br]from America called Tim, 0:02:26.016,0:02:28.240 goes through 20 languages in one video, 0:02:28.240,0:02:31.235 and in this part here[br]you can see him go through: 0:02:32.742,0:02:34.035 Wolof, 0:02:38.139,0:02:38.734 Yiddish, 0:02:38.734,0:02:39.801 Hebrew, 0:02:39.801,0:02:41.515 Arabic,[br]Turkish, 0:02:41.515,0:02:42.686 Swahili 0:02:44.253,0:02:46.757 and Hindi. 0:02:46.757,0:02:49.258 So wow! 0:02:49.258,0:02:52.752 I met someone like this [br]and I was so impressed. 0:02:52.752,0:02:55.755 I thought to myself,[br]"I want to be like that!" 0:02:55.755,0:02:57.745 But the reason I wanted to be like that 0:02:57.745,0:03:00.069 is because I wanted people [br]to think I'm smart, 0:03:00.069,0:03:01.522 to be impressed with me, 0:03:01.522,0:03:04.510 and I met this polyglot [br]at the start of my time in Spain 0:03:04.510,0:03:07.279 and with this very superficial motivation, 0:03:07.279,0:03:10.248 just because it will be cool[br]to learn a language, 0:03:10.248,0:03:11.746 I failed. 0:03:11.746,0:03:14.743 So, what I discovered [br]after those 6 months 0:03:14.743,0:03:17.750 is one of the biggest problems[br]we have in language learning 0:03:17.750,0:03:18.773 but we don't know it, 0:03:18.773,0:03:20.753 and that's motivation. 0:03:20.753,0:03:24.248 A lot of us start with the wrong [br]motivation to learn a language. 0:03:24.248,0:03:27.244 We are learning the language[br]just to pass an exam, 0:03:27.244,0:03:29.771 to improve our career prospects 0:03:29.771,0:03:31.242 or, in my case, 0:03:31.242,0:03:34.233 for superficial reasons [br]to impress people. 0:03:34.233,0:03:35.238 And what I've found 0:03:35.238,0:03:38.283 is that those polyglots[br]that I've just shown in the video, 0:03:38.283,0:03:39.750 the reason they're learning the language 0:03:39.750,0:03:42.884 is because they're passionate[br]about that language, 0:03:42.884,0:03:46.284 They're passionate about [br]the literature, and the movies 0:03:46.284,0:03:48.248 and being able to read in a language 0:03:48.248,0:03:51.253 and of course to use it with people. 0:03:51.253,0:03:55.525 And when I changed that priority[br]of use in the language of people, 0:03:55.525,0:03:59.750 I was able to learn [br]the languages myself. 0:03:59.750,0:04:02.492 But there are a lot of things [br]that people feel 0:04:02.492,0:04:04.504 will not allow them to learn a language. 0:04:04.504,0:04:06.015 So I want to go through... 0:04:06.015,0:04:08.004 I think there's five, [br]I asked a lot of people, 0:04:08.004,0:04:11.779 there's five major reasons[br]they'd never get into language learning. 0:04:11.779,0:04:14.510 So, let me go through some of these here. 0:04:14.510,0:04:18.742 The first is they've [br]no language gene or talent. 0:04:19.851,0:04:22.538 No language gene or talent, well, 0:04:22.538,0:04:24.273 what does that mean? 0:04:24.273,0:04:28.725 I mean, sometimes this is actually [br]just a self-fullfilling prophecy. 0:04:28.725,0:04:29.779 In my case, 0:04:29.779,0:04:31.763 when I had to learn [br]the language growing up, 0:04:31.763,0:04:35.247 or the six months [br]of failed learning Spanish, 0:04:35.247,0:04:39.243 it was just me telling myself,[br]"I don't have the language gene, 0:04:39.243,0:04:43.263 so there's no point[br]in doing any work in the language." 0:04:43.263,0:04:44.599 Because I didn't put the work in 0:04:44.599,0:04:45.777 I didn't learn the language, 0:04:45.777,0:04:47.544 it's just a vicious circle, 0:04:47.544,0:04:49.741 it's all in your head. 0:04:49.741,0:04:51.761 There's no language gene, 0:04:51.761,0:04:53.747 we all have it already. 0:04:53.747,0:04:56.753 But let's just imagine [br]some people who do better, 0:04:56.753,0:04:58.271 because we see it in school, 0:04:58.271,0:05:01.392 people advance faster[br]than the rest of the crowd. 0:05:01.392,0:05:02.982 So let's say there's some inborn trait 0:05:02.982,0:05:06.262 to give somebody 20% advantage [br]over the rest of the people. 0:05:06.262,0:05:07.764 Good for them! 0:05:07.764,0:05:09.748 But that doesn't mean that you can't, 0:05:09.748,0:05:12.730 it just means that you have [br]to work 20% harder. 0:05:12.730,0:05:15.276 And I've found that, [br]at least in my case, 0:05:15.276,0:05:19.227 when I work harder, I can catch up [br]with the naturally talented 0:05:19.227,0:05:21.233 and even overtake them. 0:05:21.233,0:05:24.265 So, not having talent[br]is not a good excuse. 0:05:25.751,0:05:27.003 The next reason 0:05:27.003,0:05:30.515 is that you are too old [br]to learn a second language. 0:05:32.137,0:05:33.548 I certainly felt this myself 0:05:33.548,0:05:36.262 because up to 21, [br]I didn't learn a language, 0:05:36.262,0:05:38.763 and lots of us feel that children... 0:05:38.763,0:05:42.861 their brains are hard wired[br]to learn languages better. 0:05:43.750,0:05:46.029 But is it really neurology at play here 0:05:46.029,0:05:47.314 or could it be the environment 0:05:47.314,0:05:49.074 in which the child [br]is learning the language? 0:05:49.863,0:05:53.265 Well, a study at the [br]University of Haifa in Israel 0:05:53.265,0:05:56.009 actually found that [br]under the right conditions, 0:05:56.009,0:06:00.527 adults are better language[br]learners than children. 0:06:00.527,0:06:03.978 It's sound incredible[br]but it's about your environment, 0:06:03.978,0:06:05.261 it's about your motivation, 0:06:05.261,0:06:07.264 it's about the enthusiasm [br]and encouragement 0:06:07.264,0:06:08.749 you get from other people. 0:06:08.749,0:06:09.753 And when you think of it, 0:06:09.753,0:06:13.002 adults tend to be studying[br]dusty old grammar books 0:06:13.002,0:06:15.021 and doing boring exercises, 0:06:15.021,0:06:18.251 while children are playing [br]in the language, having fun in it. 0:06:18.251,0:06:21.775 So I found that when I changed this[br]to live through the language, 0:06:21.775,0:06:25.740 not making it by studying the language,[br]but living the language, 0:06:25.740,0:06:28.231 then I was much more successful. 0:06:28.231,0:06:30.508 So you're not too old [br]to learn a language. 0:06:30.508,0:06:33.496 I've met people in their sixties[br]starting to learn a language 0:06:33.496,0:06:35.717 and being successful with that. 0:06:36.672,0:06:38.985 The next excuse people would have, 0:06:38.985,0:06:42.532 is that they can't travel [br]to the country right now. 0:06:42.532,0:06:46.271 Now, maybe 20 years ago[br]this would have been a valid excuse 0:06:46.271,0:06:48.986 but nowadays [br]the world is smaller than you think. 0:06:48.986,0:06:50.210 Thanks to the internet, 0:06:50.210,0:06:53.554 we can connect with native speakers [br]from across the planet 0:06:53.554,0:06:57.272 and you'll see that in a lot of cases, 0:06:57.272,0:06:58.763 they might want to learn your language, 0:06:58.763,0:07:00.754 and then money is not even an issue, 0:07:00.754,0:07:03.616 because you teach them a little[br]and they teach you a little. 0:07:04.497,0:07:07.230 But even forgetting the internet[br]for a moment, 0:07:07.230,0:07:08.742 a lot of us live in cities or towns 0:07:08.742,0:07:12.215 that are more international [br]than what we think, 0:07:12.215,0:07:14.783 and when I was travelling in America, 0:07:14.783,0:07:18.004 I made it to Columbus, Ohio,[br]of all places, 0:07:18.004,0:07:21.050 to meet this very interesting polyglot [br]called Moses, 0:07:21.050,0:07:23.562 and he does what he likes[br]to call "leveling up", 0:07:23.562,0:07:25.505 where he'll go to some public place 0:07:25.505,0:07:28.245 and just see if he can find [br]some foreigners 0:07:28.245,0:07:30.241 and practice the language with them. 0:07:30.241,0:07:34.275 And I joined him when [br]we went to a mall in Columbus, 0:07:34.275,0:07:37.515 and the two of us managed [br]to practice twelve languages, 0:07:37.515,0:07:41.237 and just here in this clip you can see[br]he goes through: 0:07:41.237,0:07:42.824 Cantonese, 0:07:44.520,0:07:45.697 and here's Cambodian, 0:07:47.260,0:07:50.753 and you can see that the guy [br]really appreciated him trying. 0:07:50.753,0:07:54.772 So, you can learn a language anywhere, 0:07:54.772,0:07:56.507 and I wanted to push this to the limit, 0:07:56.507,0:08:00.495 in my most recent project[br]I went to the middle of Brazil, 0:08:00.495,0:08:01.759 of all places, 0:08:01.759,0:08:04.261 to learn Egyptian Arabic. 0:08:04.261,0:08:06.255 And I succeeded, 0:08:06.255,0:08:08.739 because even though [br]there were no Egyptians around me, 0:08:08.739,0:08:10.004 I got on Skype 0:08:10.004,0:08:12.512 and I talked for one or two hours a day 0:08:12.512,0:08:15.260 and I managed [br]to go up towards conversation levels. 0:08:15.260,0:08:16.281 So no! 0:08:16.281,0:08:21.242 not being able to travel to the country[br]is not a good excuse. 0:08:21.242,0:08:23.253 The next one people might give 0:08:23.253,0:08:27.516 is that they've got bad memory[br]for learning all the vocabulary. 0:08:27.516,0:08:29.778 And this was certainly what I felt 0:08:29.778,0:08:31.513 because when I first [br]tried to learn Spanish, 0:08:31.513,0:08:33.268 I get a big list of words, 0:08:33.268,0:08:34.754 I tried to go through them 0:08:34.754,0:08:36.575 and I forget them very quickly. 0:08:37.243,0:08:40.632 But research on memory capacity 0:08:40.632,0:08:41.535 has found that 0:08:41.535,0:08:47.541 it's better when you revise these words [br]with the right frequency, 0:08:47.541,0:08:49.040 and there's this technique called 0:08:49.040,0:08:50.839 "Spaced repetition", 0:08:50.839,0:08:54.011 where you revise the word 0:08:54.011,0:08:55.508 just before you'll forget it. 0:08:55.508,0:08:58.741 And it looks something like [br]this forgetting curve, 0:08:58.741,0:09:00.881 the red line is what typically happens 0:09:00.881,0:09:03.276 when you first see a word 0:09:03.276,0:09:07.513 but to get it into your head[br]and stuck there permanently 0:09:07.513,0:09:09.525 then just review it to make sure it goes, 0:09:09.525,0:09:12.747 like review it one day later,[br]then a week later 0:09:12.747,0:09:14.280 and then a month later. 0:09:14.280,0:09:17.000 And there are apps in your Smartphone 0:09:17.000,0:09:18.789 and there's free programs [br]that you can download 0:09:18.789,0:09:21.050 that help you time all of this. 0:09:21.050,0:09:22.260 And that's great 0:09:22.260,0:09:24.240 but you can learn the words 0:09:24.240,0:09:27.511 faster and better if you combine this 0:09:27.511,0:09:30.241 with an image association technique. 0:09:30.241,0:09:32.263 So, for instance, let's say[br]I wanted to learn 0:09:32.263,0:09:36.503 that the Spanish word for[br]"to fit" is "caber". 0:09:36.503,0:09:38.753 Well, what if I imagine then 0:09:38.753,0:09:43.410 that's barely possible[br]to fit a bear in a cab? 0:09:43.410,0:09:47.029 "Cab-bear" it's "caber", it's "to fit". 0:09:47.029,0:09:49.276 So you do this for a lot of words 0:09:49.276,0:09:51.043 and it actually gets [br]very easy with time 0:09:51.043,0:09:53.760 and you can learn vocabulary instantly. 0:09:53.760,0:09:57.850 So no, having a bad memory [br]is not a good excuse. 0:10:00.017,0:10:01.275 Next, 0:10:01.275,0:10:03.493 and I think the most important one 0:10:03.493,0:10:04.521 that the people always say, 0:10:04.521,0:10:08.241 is that they're going [br]to frustrate native speakers. 0:10:08.241,0:10:10.857 And this is just so not true. 0:10:11.741,0:10:14.515 I've been to many places, [br]I've spoken to many people 0:10:14.515,0:10:16.761 and every time[br]I attempt to use their language, 0:10:16.761,0:10:19.491 they're overjoyed, they're so pleased 0:10:19.491,0:10:21.436 that I'm even trying! 0:10:22.250,0:10:25.904 And I just feel like, especially adults, 0:10:25.904,0:10:28.283 when we learn a language,[br]we are such perfectionists, 0:10:28.283,0:10:30.782 we want everything to be just right, 0:10:30.782,0:10:35.021 and perfectionism is a really [br]bad thing in language learning, 0:10:35.021,0:10:37.512 because a language [br]is a means of communication, 0:10:37.512,0:10:40.778 it's a way to get to know [br]new people and new cultures, 0:10:40.778,0:10:42.444 and when you embrace this, 0:10:42.444,0:10:44.561 it's okay to make mistakes! 0:10:44.561,0:10:48.753 And I actually have a goal[br]to make at least 200 mistakes a day 0:10:48.753,0:10:50.421 because then I know [br]I'm getting somewhere, 0:10:50.421,0:10:52.089 I'm using the language! 0:10:52.089,0:10:53.758 So embarrass yourself, 0:10:53.758,0:10:55.250 go out there, talk to people 0:10:55.250,0:10:56.520 it's okay. 0:10:56.520,0:10:58.954 When do you think [br]I was learning a language better: 0:10:59.740,0:11:00.391 here? 0:11:01.742,0:11:02.564 or here? 0:11:02.939,0:11:05.685 (Laughter) 0:11:05.685,0:11:09.239 So, anyone can indeed learn a language 0:11:09.239,0:11:10.998 when you use it with people, 0:11:10.998,0:11:13.353 and it's okay to use it early, 0:11:14.497,0:11:16.018 And this is so important, 0:11:16.018,0:11:17.253 that you don't have to wait 0:11:17.253,0:11:20.801 until you speak the language perfectly [br]and fluently and so on. 0:11:20.801,0:11:23.770 You can get into it[br]sooner than you'd expect 0:11:23.770,0:11:28.258 and it opens up so many doors[br]to these other cultures. 0:11:28.258,0:11:29.252 So for instance, 0:11:29.252,0:11:31.766 after I'd learned that Arabic in Brazil, 0:11:31.766,0:11:33.251 I made it to Egypt 0:11:33.251,0:11:36.038 and I made all the way deep [br]into the Sahara desert, 0:11:36.038,0:11:38.513 I sat down in the sand with an Egyptian 0:11:38.513,0:11:39.526 and we had some tea, 0:11:39.526,0:11:41.274 we had this nice little chat here: 0:11:41.274,0:11:44.739 (In Arabic) 0:11:44.739,0:11:48.774 (In Arabic) 0:11:48.774,0:11:50.760 and there I'm just saying that 0:11:50.760,0:11:53.774 Egypt is so much, so vast, so great, 0:11:53.774,0:11:57.248 it's so much more[br]that just Tahrir Square in Cairo. 0:11:57.248,0:11:59.765 And, now when I was speaking with him, 0:11:59.765,0:12:01.762 I used the wrong word here and there 0:12:01.762,0:12:04.729 and I conjugated the wrong verb[br]every now and again, 0:12:04.729,0:12:05.757 but that's okay, 0:12:05.757,0:12:08.236 because even with[br]this conversation level, 0:12:08.236,0:12:10.750 I had this fascinating [br]conversation with him. 0:12:10.750,0:12:13.482 And I've done this with [br]other cultures and other languages 0:12:13.482,0:12:15.750 and I even managed to learn [br]a little American sign language. 0:12:15.750,0:12:18.788 And here you can see [br]Juliana had asked me 0:12:18.788,0:12:20.756 why I didn't learn Irish sign language, 0:12:20.756,0:12:22.496 and I said, because when I'm in Ireland 0:12:22.496,0:12:25.256 I like to improve my Irish [br]and my Gaelic 0:12:25.256,0:12:26.756 which I can then speak here: 0:12:26.756,0:12:31.746 (In Irish) 0:12:31.746,0:12:34.528 so that was me on Irish radio 0:12:34.528,0:12:36.511 saying about my travels and whatever, 0:12:36.511,0:12:40.268 and I learned Irish [br]for ten years in school 0:12:40.268,0:12:43.767 and I wasn't able to say [br]the most basic phrases after that. 0:12:43.767,0:12:45.260 But as an adult, 0:12:45.260,0:12:46.750 I went back to Ireland 0:12:46.750,0:12:50.263 and I embraced using [br]the language as a beginner. 0:12:50.263,0:12:52.771 And that helped me to reach this stage. 0:12:52.771,0:12:54.504 And it's okay to be a beginner, 0:12:54.504,0:12:56.737 it's okay to be conversational, 0:12:56.737,0:12:58.743 but when you take this on, 0:12:58.743,0:13:00.759 you take it to the next level, 0:13:00.759,0:13:02.267 then you can reach very well. 0:13:02.267,0:13:04.502 I mean, I've got [br]a very good level in French, 0:13:04.502,0:13:05.747 Spanish and acouple of languages. 0:13:05.747,0:13:07.762 I've worked as a professional translator 0:13:07.762,0:13:09.767 like here I'm having a chat in French: 0:13:09.767,0:13:13.392 (In French) 0:13:13.392,0:13:15.458 and that's great, [br]that's what everybody thinks of 0:13:15.458,0:13:17.062 when they're getting[br]into language learning, 0:13:17.062,0:13:18.252 they think, "That's what I want to be, 0:13:18.252,0:13:20.232 I want to be at this [br]very high professional level, 0:13:20.232,0:13:23.102 have deep philosophical conversations." 0:13:23.102,0:13:24.511 and that's fantastic 0:13:24.511,0:13:27.019 and yeah, it's impressive[br]when you see people like that. 0:13:27.019,0:13:28.503 But rather than be impressive, 0:13:28.503,0:13:29.627 I think it's so much better 0:13:29.627,0:13:32.513 when you embrace the beginning stage[br]of language learning. 0:13:32.513,0:13:35.260 And one of the most [br]amazing experiences I've had, 0:13:35.260,0:13:37.764 was when I was in China, on the train, 0:13:37.764,0:13:40.505 at 2000 kilometers deep into China, 0:13:40.505,0:13:43.011 and I had a basic conversation[br]of "What's your name?" 0:13:43.011,0:13:45.777 and it turns out [br]I was given my Chinese name 0:13:45.777,0:13:47.055 there on the train, 0:13:47.055,0:13:48.384 and look, this is how it went: 0:13:48.384,0:13:49.740 (In Chinese) 0:13:49.740,0:13:51.494 "What's your name?" 0:13:51.494,0:13:52.783 "I'm Benny." 0:13:52.783,0:13:54.763 (In Chinese) 0:13:54.763,0:13:56.773 "I don't have a Chinese name." 0:13:56.773,0:13:58.516 and then (unclear), 0:13:58.516,0:14:02.259 says, [br]"I tell you your name is Pun Li." 0:14:02.259,0:14:04.783 because this sounds [br]like your normal name 0:14:04.783,0:14:08.126 and it means ability or skill. 0:14:08.126,0:14:10.098 And you know, 0:14:10.098,0:14:11.747 just, I can have that conversation, 0:14:11.747,0:14:14.746 even with a basic conversation[br]level of Chinese. 0:14:14.746,0:14:16.246 And I do have the ability, 0:14:16.246,0:14:17.751 I do have the skill to learn a language. 0:14:17.751,0:14:20.066 But I always did, 0:14:20.066,0:14:21.747 we all always do. 0:14:21.747,0:14:24.103 And the reason I have this skill 0:14:24.103,0:14:27.283 is not because I was born[br]with it and others weren't, 0:14:27.283,0:14:30.242 it's a decision I made. 0:14:30.242,0:14:32.742 And the problem a lot of us face 0:14:32.742,0:14:35.242 is that we feel that [br]we're better studying 0:14:35.242,0:14:38.222 and preparing for speaking [br]a language some day, 0:14:38.222,0:14:40.038 because if we do it too early 0:14:40.038,0:14:42.534 the world will end [br]from all this frustration 0:14:42.534,0:14:44.211 we cause people. 0:14:44.211,0:14:46.241 There are seven days in a week 0:14:46.241,0:14:49.240 and some day is not one of them. 0:14:49.240,0:14:53.506 I say, rather than see [br]if the world will end, 0:14:53.506,0:14:57.496 a whole new world will begin[br]if you try to learn a new language. 0:14:57.496,0:14:58.964 So I hope you'll give it a try. 0:14:58.964,0:14:59.994 Thank you. 0:14:59.994,0:15:02.764 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