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Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.56,0:00:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My name is Henry Brade and I am from The Zeitgeist Movement in Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:08.25,0:00:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am from Helsinki, the capital of Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:11.70,0:00:15.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a co-founder of the movement in Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.28,0:00:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I heard about the movement first time when I saw Peter Joseph's Zeitgeist:Addendum
Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.10,0:00:46.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the end was a text suggesting to go to
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.59,0:00:48.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,www.TheZeitgeistMovement.com
Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.100,0:00:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went there and there was a Finnish community
Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.79,0:00:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a forum in Finnish already
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.85,0:01:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There I got to know other Finns who were excited about the idea.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.51,0:01:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we met and founded the movement in Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.87,0:01:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how it started.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.79,0:01:26.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reason why I joined is that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.36,0:01:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been generally interested in societal matters even before these
Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.80,0:01:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zeitgeist films.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.24,0:01:34.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Zeitgeist:Addendum was something that
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.79,0:01:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow connected the dots
Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.30,0:01:40.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gave reasons behind the
Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.33,0:01:43.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world gone mad.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:43.99,0:01:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That sunk in really nicely.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.04,0:02:14.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The awesome thing about the resource based
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.42,0:02:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,economy is that it's thinking outside the box.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.81,0:02:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been generally interested in political issues before this movement and
Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.73,0:02:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somehow the proposals that the politicians are suggesting as solutions
Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.98,0:02:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are ridiculously narrow and something that are not going to inflict real change
Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.64,0:02:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They focus on symptoms rather than causes of problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.31,0:02:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This resource based economy focuses namely on the root problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.92,0:02:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the starting point.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.44,0:03:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find it wonderful that the starting point is human needs and well-being of the environment.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.09,0:03:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This kind of real and meaningful matters,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.94,0:03:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unlike in market economy
Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.73,0:03:17.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we just follow the circulation of money and that kind of things. Human needs are disregarded.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.60,0:03:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wants are more in the focus: how can we create new wants?
Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.55,0:03:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This doesn't exist in resource based economy.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.15,0:04:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Finnish Zeitgeist Movement started a couple of months after Zeitgeist:Addendum was released.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.29,0:04:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was January 2009.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.92,0:04:16.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It started from Helsinki.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:16.33,0:04:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were about 15 people
Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.24,0:04:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it spread out really quickly
Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.12,0:04:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The whole Southern Finland was covered
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.47,0:04:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even Oulu joined later.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.62,0:04:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had activities in more than 10 cities.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.48,0:04:35.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A big challenge has been
Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.49,0:04:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to figure out how to maintain the activities
Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.17,0:04:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while everyone is doing this on voluntary basis,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.69,0:04:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,voluntary cooperation.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.13,0:04:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The work that people do for The Zeitgeist Movement
Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.85,0:04:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,competes with rest of the life.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.87,0:04:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There might be a paid job, family life and the like,
Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.15,0:05:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which get prioritized, when for instance livelihood is needed.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.29,0:05:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a tiny motivation problem:
Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.73,0:05:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How to keep the people active?
Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.30,0:05:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It feels like old members are resigning at the same rate as
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.17,0:05:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the new members join.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.69,0:05:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The net growth in the movement is fairly small.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.92,0:05:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That has been problematic.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.87,0:05:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On the other hand we've achieved a lot here in Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.84,0:05:40.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had a lot of events.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.67,0:05:42.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had stunts on the street.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.77,0:05:45.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have made a Finnish
Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.59,0:05:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zeitgeist film and now
Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.78,0:05:50.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a Finnish Zeitgeist book came out.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.63,0:05:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, in that sense, this has expanded and grown a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.38,0:06:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, all in all, during these past \Nfew years we've developed quite a bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.19,0:07:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had the fourth annual meeting of
Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.26,0:07:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Zeitgeist Movement in Finland\Nand it went pretty well.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.31,0:07:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For the first time it was in the capital, in Helsinki.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.48,0:07:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Previously it has taken place in Tampere.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.71,0:07:54.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really well organized event.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.14,0:07:59.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were all sorts of lectures, covering many topics and not much repetition.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.75,0:08:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All practicalities, such as catering, functioned perfectly.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.05,0:08:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very nice event indeed.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.87,0:08:11.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These national meetings in general have been something that
Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.95,0:08:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brings together ther whole Zeitgeist Movement in Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.55,0:08:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People come hundreds of kilometers, all over Finland, to meet others
Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.31,0:08:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who support the movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.65,0:08:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has been just awesome.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.98,0:08:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These lectures were really well planned
Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.90,0:08:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a sense that they brought up
Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.91,0:08:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many highly interesting topics.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.08,0:08:56.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance, we talked about time banks which is a very interesting topic
Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.66,0:09:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and food: the quality of contemporary food and organic food
Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.52,0:09:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this kind of things.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:04.32,0:09:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one lecture addressed the power of the media
Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.46,0:09:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way the agenda of the media guides people's opinions.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.33,0:09:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there was a really good lecture about communality and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.29,0:09:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course I held one lecture
Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.58,0:09:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the thoughts and solutions suggested by\NThe Zeitgeist Movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.20,0:09:32.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very diverse and
Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.51,0:09:34.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting lectures.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.58,0:09:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for the participants:
Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.33,0:09:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had - like in all national events - people from all over Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.05,0:09:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had one person from all the way in Rovaniemi and a bigger bunch from Oulu.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.99,0:09:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most were from Southern Finland though.
Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.59,0:10:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The movement is focused in the cities in Southern Finland,
Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.47,0:10:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's good that we had people from the North as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.11,0:10:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The fact that they care to come all the way to Helsinki
Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.05,0:10:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is of course really nice.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.74,0:12:02.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have had all kinds of meetings in
Dialogue: 0,0:12:02.24,0:12:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Zeitgeist Movement in Finland.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:04.14,0:12:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apart from the official national meetings
Dialogue: 0,0:12:06.79,0:12:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've had more informal
Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.51,0:12:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get-together weekends.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.02,0:12:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For instance two summers ago we spent the whole weekend together on a cottage.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.06,0:12:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were some 10-15 people there
Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.48,0:12:27.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,convened in Central Finland from all over the country.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.04,0:12:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a very interesting weekend.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.68,0:12:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was mainly getting to know each other and spending time together.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.73,0:12:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we had this extempore idea to go and spread out flyers and DVDs in
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.18,0:12:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the centre of the small town.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.69,0:12:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was really fun and nice,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.66,0:12:46.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we chatted with people and it was
Dialogue: 0,0:12:46.31,0:12:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more like physical contact and communication,
Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.39,0:12:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than just internet activism.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.95,0:12:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Last summer we visited an ecovillage.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.60,0:13:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spent the whole weekend in the only
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.19,0:13:04.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecovillage in Finland
Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.83,0:13:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they wish to live sustainably
Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.84,0:13:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a lifestyle there:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.70,0:13:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the people long for more sustainable way of life.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:14.20,0:13:16.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that sense our values were really close to one another and
Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.36,0:13:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they also digged the thoughts of The Zeitgeist Movement a lot.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.84,0:14:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most rewarding thing in this activism is
Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.83,0:14:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably the fact that you meet like-minded people
Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.25,0:14:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you can have discussions at the same wawelength.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.11,0:14:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to talk about superficialities.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.23,0:14:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's rare to have shallow discussions with the people from The Zeitgeist Movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.27,0:14:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's good contrast to
Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.07,0:15:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every-day conversations that I have with my other friends.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.18,0:15:09.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can go really deep in the conversations with these people.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.52,0:15:11.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That has been really rewarding
Dialogue: 0,0:15:11.50,0:15:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also the fact that you see new people awaken to reality and
Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.40,0:15:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see that due to your work in the movement new people spring up and they say:
Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.93,0:15:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Your work enabled me to even find out about the movement"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.22,0:15:28.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For sure that's rewarding.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.64,0:15:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's great.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.43,0:15:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Probably the most challenging thing in the movement is to get people do things proactively.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.57,0:15:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have tried to function so that
Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.39,0:15:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people would do everything on their own
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.97,0:15:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we've had to acknowledge the fact that in practice
Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.55,0:16:00.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people do need, not necessarily leading, but some sort of guidance
Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.20,0:16:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people are proactive and do things on their own and
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.12,0:16:11.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some people won't do anything unless there is someone guiding them.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.71,0:16:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the Finnish activities we have learned this the hard way:
Dialogue: 0,0:16:15.13,0:16:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we do need more guidance.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.36,0:16:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many people who are more active might get frustrated
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.36,0:16:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the whole thing if it looks like that people are not
Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.42,0:16:30.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing anything if you are not holding their hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.64,0:16:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It requires right kind of approach,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.58,0:16:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right methods,
Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.15,0:16:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make it function properly.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.58,0:17:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finland is, per capita, one of the most active Zeitgeist chapters
Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.66,0:17:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a big bunch of people taking into consideration how small the country is.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.15,0:18:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One reason for achievements like the film and the book is
Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.34,0:18:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we have a lot of active people
Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.21,0:18:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are both proactive and competent.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.52,0:18:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajan Henki (Spirit of the Times) film came about just because
Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.88,0:18:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Finnish Zeitgeist Movement had a lot of competent
Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.30,0:18:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people in the field:
Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.21,0:18:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found an editor
Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.74,0:18:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found a director
Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.32,0:18:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we found the cameraman
Dialogue: 0,0:18:35.53,0:18:37.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course we couldn't find some things
Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.80,0:18:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for instance a script writer
Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.44,0:18:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we had to learn it on our own.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.72,0:18:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But filmmaking is not rocket science. Not at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.26,0:18:52.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope that Ajan Henki film functions as a role model to other countries,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.79,0:18:54.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they could do something similar.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.21,0:18:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's completely possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:57.25,0:18:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't have to be that
Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.73,0:19:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone is a professional.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.23,0:19:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It only takes a bit of motivation and interest
Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.37,0:19:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to learn all the things that filmmaking requires.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.02,0:19:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course it helps if you have a few professionals in the crew.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.87,0:19:14.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then this Zeitgeist book...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:15.59,0:19:19.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is largely an individual triumph of the writer.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.91,0:19:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In reality there was no one else involved
Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.87,0:19:25.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,apart from the author Jani Laasonen.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.69,0:19:29.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's how it started.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.97,0:19:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It seems that the Finnish movement has a lot of people who are able to do things on their own.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.30,0:19:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if we've had troubles in organizing the work
Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.29,0:19:43.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to admit that we've had these great accomplishments as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.48,0:19:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In that sense I think we've done a pretty good job in the end.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.52,0:21:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This film process took about
Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.62,0:21:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half a year all in all,
Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.47,0:21:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make the actual film.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.92,0:21:30.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had planned this kind of video project for a long time already
Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.54,0:21:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It started out with the idea to make a 20-minute
Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.68,0:21:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introductory video of The Zeitgeist Movement
Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.36,0:21:38.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then the whole thing just got out of hand.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.82,0:21:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turned out that we are making a full-length feature film and
Dialogue: 0,0:21:42.16,0:21:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it turned out that we are making a little bit too long full-length feature film
Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.57,0:21:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the end result was a humongous 3-hour piece.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.88,0:21:52.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Indeed, it took us half a year.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.55,0:21:58.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We first structured the whole thing on a large flip chart.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.39,0:22:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That took us a few days.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.36,0:22:04.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It set the script writing in motion and
Dialogue: 0,0:22:04.06,0:22:07.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finding and contacting all the interviewees followed.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.24,0:22:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That sort of thing.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.79,0:22:11.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That took a long time.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.49,0:22:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we got to carry out the interviews,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.25,0:22:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while we were writing the script on the go.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.81,0:22:16.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once that was done
Dialogue: 0,0:22:16.100,0:22:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- it took about 3-4 months -
Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.72,0:22:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we still had to use a couple more months only for editing
Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.08,0:22:27.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a big process:
Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.57,0:22:30.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,editing, music, mixing, all these
Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.59,0:22:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took us almost as long as the rest of the film
Dialogue: 0,0:22:36.32,0:22:41.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After all, we had tens of hours of material from the interviews
Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.46,0:22:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had to fit the film in three hours
Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.51,0:22:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or rather less.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.92,0:22:50.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That took a while.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.66,0:22:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had seven people in our team.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.10,0:22:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had a couple of editors, one cameraman,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.73,0:22:59.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few scriptwriters,
Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.88,0:23:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one who kind of took the role of a director.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:04.42,0:23:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We all had our own roles,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.06,0:23:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we all did pretty much everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.12,0:23:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if I was the main responsible for the script
Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.15,0:23:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was also being interviewed and interviewing
Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.84,0:23:17.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well as partly doing the editing.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.47,0:23:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I helped in that as well.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.47,0:23:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't just one person doing one thing but
Dialogue: 0,0:23:23.45,0:23:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone doing everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.71,0:24:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the problems with Ajan Henki was that
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.31,0:24:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it took us ages to get it translated.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:10.77,0:24:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had to get it translated into English
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.17,0:24:15.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the process was super slow.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.68,0:24:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our translation tools were perhaps ill-equipped
Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.87,0:24:21.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we didn't have enough people to do it.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.40,0:24:23.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It came as a bit of a surprise.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.52,0:24:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For two months nothing much happened.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.12,0:24:29.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We couldn't even get the transcription done.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.100,0:24:33.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Once it was transcribed it came to a halt again.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.79,0:24:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two months later one of the
Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.44,0:24:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ajan Henki team members wrote a pretty
Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.61,0:24:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nasty message in Facebook:
Dialogue: 0,0:24:41.33,0:24:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Isn't this movement capable of doing ONE translation?"
Dialogue: 0,0:24:45.03,0:24:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That woke people up and they were like:\N"We can do this."
Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.87,0:24:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took like couple of weeks to get the whole translation done.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:52.22,0:24:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People just needed a bit of guidance and encouragement
Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.30,0:24:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that led to action.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.38,0:25:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's a great example of the fact that sometimes
Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.01,0:25:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need to offer guidance to people before they get anything done.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.64,0:26:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We always talk about critical mass:
Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.92,0:26:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How can this movement reach a critical mass?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:25.12,0:26:28.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do we get enough people along to inflict real change?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.71,0:26:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really challenging.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.06,0:26:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I do see a bright future for The Zeitgeist Movement
Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.89,0:26:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the growth is not going to be anything close to exponential
Dialogue: 0,0:26:38.12,0:26:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what happens in the real world
Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.03,0:26:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,largely dictates
Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.80,0:26:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how we can grow.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.32,0:26:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course the media attention we attract:
Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.36,0:26:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that also plays a significant role.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:49.87,0:26:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have had some major media hype lately and
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.34,0:26:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there have been for instance actors who've come out of the closet and said
Dialogue: 0,0:26:59.62,0:27:01.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I support The Zeitgeist Movement".
Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.90,0:27:03.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That has been remarkable.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.100,0:27:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then again, the way we've been portrayed
Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.93,0:27:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the media is in the large part
Dialogue: 0,0:27:08.55,0:27:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are a cult of some sort
Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.27,0:27:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we haven't been taken very seriously up till now.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.06,0:27:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we've had a few articles that do take it more seriously but
Dialogue: 0,0:27:20.62,0:27:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even those most people receive with suspicion:
Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.80,0:27:26.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's too futuristic or something.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.57,0:27:29.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet the issues that The Zeitgeist Movement deals with
Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.64,0:27:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are not going to go anywhere.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.44,0:27:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We talk about energy crises, technological unemployment, inequality
Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.98,0:27:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and environmental problems.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.24,0:27:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As long as these are in a
Dialogue: 0,0:27:41.94,0:27:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,near-crisis or even crisis state
Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.04,0:27:49.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Zeitgeist Movement will be in demand.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.97,0:27:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see that it has to grow.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.53,0:27:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course what we internally do in the movement
Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.40,0:28:00.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we portray ourselves externally dictates
Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.10,0:28:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our possibilities for growth.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.29,0:28:05.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there are quite a few other movements
Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.49,0:28:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are concerned about similar topics.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.86,0:28:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are all people going to join this very movement?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.58,0:28:13.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That I don't know.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.69,0:28:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I'm really fond of for instance The Occupy Movement.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.43,0:28:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Occupy Movement has been in the forefront also in Finland and
Dialogue: 0,0:28:21.06,0:28:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it could function, in a way, as a top-level organization for the smaller
Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.01,0:28:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organizaitons such as The Zeigeist Movement and
Dialogue: 0,0:28:27.26,0:28:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all sorts of movements could gather under its
Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.42,0:28:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,umbrella and together drive the change forward.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.17,0:28:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That, in my mind, is one potential direction for development right at the moment.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.63,0:29:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The transition phase poses a problem:
Dialogue: 0,0:29:31.92,0:29:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you think about what motivates people
Dialogue: 0,0:29:35.61,0:29:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to change the system
Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.72,0:29:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then one could say that Finnish people are too well off.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.27,0:29:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't want to change things.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.88,0:29:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My view is that as long as capitalism
Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.74,0:29:50.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works, to an extent, for the Finnish people
Dialogue: 0,0:29:50.97,0:29:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- as it seems to work currently,
Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.30,0:29:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most people here are not facing dire adversity -
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.13,0:30:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so as long as it works it's hard to see that people would radically want to change it.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.71,0:30:06.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why, to encourage a system-level change
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.40,0:30:09.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in the Nordic countries
Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.08,0:30:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does require a certain drop
Dialogue: 0,0:30:10.38,0:30:13.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that shit first hits the fan.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.11,0:30:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can advance to an extent via
Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.14,0:30:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the harder situation.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.21,0:30:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How hard should it get?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.54,0:30:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is too hard?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:23.38,0:30:26.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think anyone wants that the
Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.59,0:30:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation becomes really bad.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.81,0:30:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where does the line go?
Dialogue: 0,0:30:31.100,0:30:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But some sort of disaster is needed
Dialogue: 0,0:30:35.38,0:30:37.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that people want to have a change.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.38,0:30:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for the time scale
Dialogue: 0,0:30:39.57,0:30:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've figured that in 50-100 years
Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.00,0:30:50.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would make sense to think about resource based economy, the global kind.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.90,0:30:54.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps the transition phase means that
Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.70,0:30:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we start implementing those thoughts:
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.38,0:30:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resource-based thinking,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.34,0:31:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,self-sufficiency, caring
Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.84,0:31:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and communality.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:02.68,0:31:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We begin to make it happen on a smaller scale and start networking.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.08,0:31:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we think of it as some sort of global system that replaces exchange
Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.22,0:31:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and free trade globally
Dialogue: 0,0:31:17.38,0:31:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we are talking about quite long-term transition.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:19.78,0:31:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there are no obstacles for us to start implementing
Dialogue: 0,0:31:25.84,0:31:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that line of thinking on a smaller scale, right now.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.88,0:31:31.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can start from here and slowly expand.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.87,0:31:33.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And once the value set changes
Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.81,0:31:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- once people start valuing different aspects than nowadays -
Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.86,0:31:45.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then even a larger system-level change becomes possible.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:45.38,0:31:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the whole thing starts from
Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.69,0:31:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people's values.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.36,0:35:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The time has passed
Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.80,0:35:57.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we look up to a leader
Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.94,0:36:00.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and listen obediently what media tells us.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.04,0:36:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We now have to take responsibility of
Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.74,0:36:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our own lives and lead the change through that.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.52,0:36:51.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have been accustomed to
Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.31,0:36:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,follow political leaders
Dialogue: 0,0:36:52.72,0:36:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and media and so foth
Dialogue: 0,0:36:55.07,0:36:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now that time has passed.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.04,0:36:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's time to take responsibility
Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.15,0:37:01.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of our lives and lead the change
Dialogue: 0,0:37:01.30,0:37:03.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through that.