1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,240 [Eleanor Antin: Politics & Paper Dolls] 2 00:00:06,580 --> 00:00:07,960 I thought that I was 3 00:00:08,429 --> 00:00:10,760 finished working with paper dolls 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:11,860 and was on to other things-- 5 00:00:11,860 --> 00:00:13,220 ["Theater of the Absurd" (2016)] 6 00:00:13,220 --> 00:00:17,040 until those idiotic Republican debates, 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,260 and that insane list of characters 8 00:00:20,260 --> 00:00:22,500 that could have been in some mad comedy. 9 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:26,440 I have little Marco trying to be noticed. 10 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:29,220 He's trying to go like this 11 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:30,930 but he's half in the light. 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,300 Trump is the narcissistic absurdity he is. 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,859 Cruz, he's like a vampire. 14 00:00:37,859 --> 00:00:40,210 I wanted to put a little blood on his lips, 15 00:00:40,210 --> 00:00:41,970 but I didn't want to be too obvious. 16 00:00:42,589 --> 00:00:44,969 My work has always been political, 17 00:00:44,969 --> 00:00:47,809 has always been comic-- 18 00:00:47,809 --> 00:00:49,499 and also sad. 19 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:51,440 That was one of the advantages 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,659 of being brought up by a Communist. 21 00:00:53,659 --> 00:00:56,530 Everything you read in the paper was a capitalist lie. 22 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,660 --You want to look at these guys? 23 00:00:58,980 --> 00:01:00,440 You know, for someone like me, 24 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:04,779 who is known for reinventing history 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,850 in terms of the present-- 26 00:01:06,850 --> 00:01:09,410 with the similarities and ambiguities-- 27 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:11,930 I realize, oh my God, this is like... 28 00:01:12,690 --> 00:01:14,130 I was prophesying! 29 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:16,340 You know, the future! 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,040 Hijacking a plane is one of the most 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,280 horrifying things you can think of. 32 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,620 Life is a mixture of the absurd, 33 00:01:28,630 --> 00:01:30,870 the comic, and the disastrous. 34 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:36,040 At some point, this airplane hijacking happened 35 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:37,860 and they had a movie of it, 36 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:38,860 ["The Nurse and the Hijackers" (1977)] 37 00:01:38,860 --> 00:01:40,380 and they had it on TV endlessly, 38 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:41,610 this horrible movie. 39 00:01:41,620 --> 00:01:44,300 But, it was a fascinating story 40 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:46,010 about Entebbe-- 41 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:48,100 it was a place in Africa. 42 00:01:48,490 --> 00:01:49,690 There were political problems 43 00:01:49,690 --> 00:01:52,230 and the rebels stole a plane. 44 00:01:53,660 --> 00:01:55,080 There was something fascinating 45 00:01:55,090 --> 00:01:58,950 about the horror of a hijacking of an airplane. 46 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:02,320 There's me. 47 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,620 There's Eleanor. 48 00:02:03,620 --> 00:02:06,200 --[ANTIN CHARACTER VOICE OVER] I don't know if I can go through with this. 49 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,780 --I'm so very scared! 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:09,940 [ANTIN] In my film, 51 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:13,960 the hijackers are eco-hijackers. 52 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:15,680 They steal the plane 53 00:02:16,099 --> 00:02:19,359 so that they can go to OPEC nations 54 00:02:19,790 --> 00:02:22,590 and convince them not to sell oil to the West 55 00:02:22,590 --> 00:02:25,139 because it was destroying the planet. 56 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:27,519 --[ANTIN CHARACTER VOICE OVER] So this planet 57 00:02:27,519 --> 00:02:29,409 --is in a state of crisis. 58 00:02:29,409 --> 00:02:31,099 --You know it is in this state 59 00:02:31,099 --> 00:02:32,439 --and we know it. 60 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,220 [ANTIN] And then the Israelis come 61 00:02:34,230 --> 00:02:35,560 and they shoot the hijackers. 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,269 And this one guy--by accident, 63 00:02:37,269 --> 00:02:38,969 in his entusiasm-- 64 00:02:38,969 --> 00:02:39,779 gets killed. 65 00:02:40,140 --> 00:02:43,019 --[ANTIN MAKES SOUND EFFECTS OF MACHINE GUNS FIRING] 66 00:02:43,020 --> 00:02:44,340 --[ANTIN CHARACTER VOICE OVER] Omer, hold your fire! 67 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:46,381 --Oh Temir, you fool. 68 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,250 --Oh my God! 69 00:02:52,260 --> 00:02:54,640 --[ANTIN MAKES SOUND EFFECTS OF MACHINE GUNS FIRING] 70 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,739 [ANTIN] It's a long, complicated fifty-page script. 71 00:02:58,140 --> 00:03:00,260 --[ANTIN CHARACTER VOICE OVER] So what have you got now, 72 00:03:00,269 --> 00:03:02,029 --night games, 73 00:03:02,029 --> 00:03:03,790 --and AstroTurf, 74 00:03:03,790 --> 00:03:05,549 --and, and... 75 00:03:05,549 --> 00:03:07,369 --television! 76 00:03:08,140 --> 00:03:10,240 --And where... is... 77 00:03:10,540 --> 00:03:13,000 --Ebbets Field... now? 78 00:03:13,260 --> 00:03:15,540 --Gone with the steeplechase, mother! 79 00:03:15,549 --> 00:03:18,549 --You know they've got apartment houses there now! 80 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,460 [ANTIN] This is Judy Chicago. 81 00:03:22,060 --> 00:03:23,660 This is Jackson Mac Low, 82 00:03:24,060 --> 00:03:24,940 the poet. 83 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,079 --If this wasn't stuck on, 84 00:03:27,079 --> 00:03:28,120 --he's naked underneath. 85 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:29,189 --He looks so cute! 86 00:03:29,189 --> 00:03:30,879 Whenever a friend would come to visit me, 87 00:03:30,879 --> 00:03:33,239 I would make them model for me. 88 00:03:34,269 --> 00:03:35,779 I love looking at them 89 00:03:35,779 --> 00:03:38,059 and looking at them in the video. 90 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:39,420 And some of them, 91 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:41,000 they're my friends who are dead. 92 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,680 This is Ree Morton, 93 00:03:43,689 --> 00:03:46,809 my friend who got killed in Chicago. 94 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,920 She is my chief hijacker. 95 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:51,080 This is Elizabeth Murray, 96 00:03:51,090 --> 00:03:52,270 with the glasses. 97 00:03:52,829 --> 00:03:53,599 I hate it, 98 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,359 but the point is that death is built into life. 99 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,779 And then people always say, 100 00:03:57,779 --> 00:03:59,239 "Yeah, but people have to die" 101 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:01,730 "so that other people can come forth" 102 00:04:01,730 --> 00:04:02,889 "and have their life." 103 00:04:02,889 --> 00:04:04,049 And, you know, I mean, 104 00:04:04,049 --> 00:04:05,559 what kind of bullshit is that? 105 00:04:05,559 --> 00:04:07,679 --[ANTIN SINGS] 106 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:09,219 [ANTIN] I mean, I'd like the people... 107 00:04:09,219 --> 00:04:10,040 everyone to be happy, 108 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,400 but what do I care if this other person, 109 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,809 a hundred years from now, 110 00:04:13,809 --> 00:04:15,090 gets born, you know? 111 00:04:15,090 --> 00:04:16,990 Like, I want to stay born! 112 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,829 I want to stay alive! 113 00:04:18,829 --> 00:04:19,709 And I won't. 114 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:22,980 Death is for everybody I know. 115 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,380 Of course, it's also for the people I don't like, 116 00:04:25,380 --> 00:04:27,390 so that's maybe not so bad, 117 00:04:27,390 --> 00:04:29,230 but also the people I love! 118 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:32,020 It certainly makes me enjoy my life.