WEBVTT 00:00:15.991 --> 00:00:18.475 Good evening everybody. 00:00:19.055 --> 00:00:22.885 It's true. I have been in Afghanistan for 21 years. 00:00:22.885 --> 00:00:24.532 I work for the Red Cross, 00:00:24.532 --> 00:00:28.551 and I'm a physiotherapist. 00:00:29.499 --> 00:00:33.076 My job is to make arms and legs. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:33.076 --> 00:00:34.650 Well, it's not completely true. 00:00:34.650 --> 00:00:37.114 We do more than that. 00:00:38.054 --> 00:00:41.788 We provide the patients, the Afghan disabled, 00:00:41.788 --> 00:00:44.463 first with physical rehabilitation, 00:00:44.463 --> 00:00:47.775 then with social reintegration. 00:00:47.775 --> 00:00:50.433 It's a very logical plan, 00:00:50.433 --> 00:00:52.773 but it was not always like this. 00:00:52.773 --> 00:00:55.018 For many years, we were just providing them 00:00:55.018 --> 00:00:57.793 with artificial limbs. 00:00:57.793 --> 00:00:59.944 It took quite many years 00:00:59.944 --> 00:01:04.455 for the program to become what it is now. 00:01:06.295 --> 00:01:10.547 Today, I would like to tell you a story, 00:01:10.925 --> 00:01:12.965 the story of a big change, 00:01:12.965 --> 00:01:16.991 and the story of the people who made this change possible. 00:01:19.064 --> 00:01:23.934 I arrived in Afghanistan in 1990, 00:01:25.128 --> 00:01:30.213 to work in a hospital for war victims, 00:01:32.724 --> 00:01:35.024 And then, not only for war victims; 00:01:35.024 --> 00:01:38.605 it was for any kind of patients. 00:01:40.345 --> 00:01:46.184 At that time, I found myself in a strange situation. 00:01:46.184 --> 00:01:50.802 I felt not quite ready for that job. 00:01:50.802 --> 00:01:54.023 There was so much to learn. 00:01:54.023 --> 00:01:55.765 There were so many things new to me, 00:01:55.765 --> 00:01:57.853 but it was a terrific job. 00:01:57.853 --> 00:02:01.753 I was also working in the orthopaedic center, 00:02:01.753 --> 00:02:05.506 We call it like this. It's the place where we make the legs. 00:02:05.506 --> 00:02:08.374 And, I said, it was fantastic 00:02:08.374 --> 00:02:12.070 but there was something strange. 00:02:12.409 --> 00:02:15.369 As soon as the fight intensified, 00:02:16.493 --> 00:02:19.449 the physical rehabilitation was suspended. 00:02:19.449 --> 00:02:21.783 There were many other things to do, 00:02:21.783 --> 00:02:25.208 so the orthopaedic center was closed, 00:02:25.978 --> 00:02:31.353 because physical rehabilitation was not considered a priority. 00:02:36.021 --> 00:02:38.865 It was a strange sensation. 00:02:38.865 --> 00:02:43.066 Anyway, I was working -- 00:02:43.066 --> 00:02:46.727 sorry I'm a bit confused. (Sigh) 00:02:47.717 --> 00:02:50.179 You know, every time I make this speech, -- 00:02:50.179 --> 00:02:52.564 this is not the first time -- it's an emotion, 00:02:52.564 --> 00:02:56.333 it's something that comes out from the past. 00:02:56.333 --> 00:02:59.539 It's been 21 years, but it's still all there. 00:02:59.539 --> 00:03:06.143 Anyway. In 1992 the Mujahideen took all Afghanistan, 00:03:06.413 --> 00:03:09.643 and the orthopaedic center was closed. 00:03:09.643 --> 00:03:14.311 I was assigned to work for the homeless, 00:03:14.311 --> 00:03:17.659 for the internally displaced people. 00:03:19.169 --> 00:03:21.519 The orthopaedic center was closed, 00:03:21.519 --> 00:03:27.473 and... (Sigh) It was a very strange sensation. 00:03:28.137 --> 00:03:31.825 But one day, something happened. 00:03:32.485 --> 00:03:38.093 I was coming back from a big food distribution in a mosque, 00:03:38.093 --> 00:03:42.893 where tens and tens of people were squatting 00:03:42.893 --> 00:03:45.390 in terrible conditions. 00:03:45.390 --> 00:03:47.197 I wanted to go home, I was driving, 00:03:47.197 --> 00:03:50.624 and, you know, when you want to forget, 00:03:50.624 --> 00:03:52.154 you don't want to see things. 00:03:52.154 --> 00:03:54.304 You just want to go to your room 00:03:54.304 --> 00:03:58.655 to lock yourself inside, and say, "That's enough." 00:03:59.487 --> 00:04:02.805 A bomb fell, not far from my car -- 00:04:02.805 --> 00:04:05.493 well, far enough, but [making a] big noise. 00:04:05.493 --> 00:04:09.724 And everybody disappeared from the street. 00:04:09.724 --> 00:04:12.409 The cars disappeared as well. 00:04:12.409 --> 00:04:16.691 I docked, and only one figure remained 00:04:16.691 --> 00:04:19.013 in the middle of the road. 00:04:19.013 --> 00:04:21.075 It was a man on a wheelchair, 00:04:21.075 --> 00:04:24.395 desperately trying to move away. 00:04:26.598 --> 00:04:28.659 Well, I'm not a particularly brave person, 00:04:28.659 --> 00:04:30.913 I have to confess it, 00:04:31.895 --> 00:04:35.320 but I could not just ignore him. 00:04:35.320 --> 00:04:37.165 So, I stopped the car, 00:04:37.165 --> 00:04:39.800 and I went to help. 00:04:40.935 --> 00:04:47.029 The man was without legs, and only with one arm. 00:04:47.385 --> 00:04:50.059 Behind him, there was a child, his son. 00:04:50.059 --> 00:04:55.663 His face was red because of his effort to push the father. 00:04:55.663 --> 00:04:57.924 So, I took him into a safe place, 00:04:57.924 --> 00:05:02.561 and I asked, "What are you doing out in the street, 00:05:02.561 --> 00:05:04.844 in this situation?" 00:05:04.844 --> 00:05:09.589 "I work", he said. I wondered, "What work?" NOTE Paragraph 00:05:09.589 --> 00:05:12.374 And then I asked an even more stupid question, 00:05:12.374 --> 00:05:14.589 "Why don't you have a prosthesis?" 00:05:14.589 --> 00:05:17.448 Why don't you have the artificial legs? 00:05:17.448 --> 00:05:20.883 And he said, "The Red Cross is closed". 00:05:20.883 --> 00:05:23.082 Well, without thinking, 00:05:23.082 --> 00:05:25.461 I told him, "Come tomorrow. 00:05:25.461 --> 00:05:29.285 We will provide you with a pair of legs." 00:05:29.285 --> 00:05:32.149 The man -- his name was Mahmoud 00:05:32.149 --> 00:05:36.569 and the child's name was Rafi -- left. 00:05:36.569 --> 00:05:40.662 Then I said, "Oh my god! What did I say?" 00:05:40.662 --> 00:05:44.826 The center is closed, no staff around, 00:05:44.826 --> 00:05:48.414 maybe the machinery's broken. 00:05:48.414 --> 00:05:51.063 Who is going to make the legs for him?" 00:05:51.063 --> 00:05:55.146 So I hoped that he would not come. 00:05:55.146 --> 00:06:01.613 These are the streets of Kabul, in those days. 00:06:01.613 --> 00:06:06.805 But, so I said, "I will give him some money." 00:06:06.805 --> 00:06:08.151 So, the following day, 00:06:08.151 --> 00:06:11.084 I went to the orthopaedic center 00:06:11.084 --> 00:06:14.556 and I spoke with the gate keeper. 00:06:14.556 --> 00:06:15.766 I was ready to tell him, 00:06:15.766 --> 00:06:20.471 "Listen, if someone, such and such, comes tomorrow, 00:06:20.471 --> 00:06:22.627 please tell him that there was a mistake. 00:06:22.627 --> 00:06:26.192 Nothing can be done. Give him some money and..." 00:06:26.192 --> 00:06:29.002 But Mahmoud and his son were already there, 00:06:29.002 --> 00:06:30.770 and they were not alone. 00:06:30.770 --> 00:06:32.639 There were 15, 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:36.415 maybe 20 people like him, waiting. (Laughter) 00:06:36.415 --> 00:06:39.779 And there was some staff too. 00:06:39.779 --> 00:06:44.712 Among them, there was my right-hand man, Najmuddin. 00:06:46.316 --> 00:06:48.645 And the gate keeper told me, 00:06:48.645 --> 00:06:51.940 "They come every day, to see if the center would open." 00:06:53.047 --> 00:06:56.562 I said, "No, we have to go away, we cannot stay here!" 00:06:56.562 --> 00:06:58.453 They were bombing, not very close, 00:06:58.453 --> 00:07:00.237 but you could hear the noise of the bombs. 00:07:00.237 --> 00:07:02.725 So, "We cannot stay here, it's dangerous. 00:07:02.725 --> 00:07:05.262 It's not a priority." 00:07:05.262 --> 00:07:08.492 But, Najmuddin told me, "Listen, now we're here, 00:07:08.492 --> 00:07:10.378 at least we can start repairing 00:07:10.378 --> 00:07:12.267 the broken prosthesis of the people 00:07:12.267 --> 00:07:16.351 and maybe try to do something for people like Mahmoud." 00:07:16.731 --> 00:07:18.674 I said, "No, please, we cannot do that, 00:07:18.674 --> 00:07:23.197 it's really dangerous, we have other things to do." 00:07:23.197 --> 00:07:25.331 But they insisted. 00:07:25.331 --> 00:07:27.977 When you have 20 people 00:07:27.977 --> 00:07:29.502 in front of you, looking at you, 00:07:29.502 --> 00:07:32.891 and you are the one who has to decide... 00:07:32.891 --> 00:07:35.565 So, we started doing some repairs. 00:07:35.565 --> 00:07:38.018 Also, one of the physiotherapists reported 00:07:38.018 --> 00:07:42.683 that Mahmoud could be provided with legs, 00:07:42.683 --> 00:07:44.415 but not immediately. 00:07:44.415 --> 00:07:47.795 [His] legs were swollen, and [his] knees were stiff, 00:07:47.795 --> 00:07:50.645 so he needed a long preparation. 00:07:52.460 --> 00:07:53.868 Believe me: I was worried, 00:07:53.868 --> 00:07:55.694 because I was breaking the rules. 00:07:55.694 --> 00:07:59.980 I was doing something that I was not supposed to do! 00:08:00.626 --> 00:08:02.583 In the evening, I went to speak 00:08:02.583 --> 00:08:04.790 with the bosses at the headquarters 00:08:04.790 --> 00:08:07.426 and I told them -- I lied -- 00:08:07.426 --> 00:08:10.742 I told them, "Listen, we are going to start, 00:08:10.742 --> 00:08:14.920 a couple of hours per day, just a few repairs..." 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.559 Maybe some of them [are] here now. 00:08:17.559 --> 00:08:19.421 (Laughter) 00:08:19.421 --> 00:08:23.624 So, we started. I was working. 00:08:23.624 --> 00:08:29.022 I was going every day to work for the homeless, 00:08:29.022 --> 00:08:30.710 and Najmuddin was staying there, 00:08:30.710 --> 00:08:32.677 doing everything and reporting on the patients. 00:08:32.677 --> 00:08:35.545 he was telling me, "Patients are coming". 00:08:35.545 --> 00:08:39.562 We knew that many more patients could not come 00:08:39.562 --> 00:08:43.128 [because of the fighting], but people were coming, 00:08:43.128 --> 00:08:45.615 and Mahmoud was coming everyday. 00:08:45.615 --> 00:08:49.762 And slowly, slowly, week after week, 00:08:49.762 --> 00:08:52.198 his legs were improving, 00:08:52.198 --> 00:08:55.608 the stumps were cast, 00:08:55.608 --> 00:08:57.437 [his] prosthesis was made, 00:08:57.437 --> 00:09:02.136 and he was starting a real physical rehabilitation. 00:09:02.136 --> 00:09:05.576 He was coming every day, crossing the front line. 00:09:05.576 --> 00:09:07.324 A couple of times, I crossed the front line 00:09:07.324 --> 00:09:11.174 in the very place where Mahmoud and his son were crossing. 00:09:11.174 --> 00:09:13.855 I tell you! It was something so sinister 00:09:13.855 --> 00:09:18.738 that I was astonished they could do it every day. 00:09:18.738 --> 00:09:23.136 But finally, the great day arrived: 00:09:23.136 --> 00:09:27.623 the day when Mahmoud was going to be discharged with his new legs. 00:09:27.623 --> 00:09:31.388 It was April, I remember, a very beautiful day. 00:09:31.388 --> 00:09:34.836 Kabul. April in Kabul is beautiful, 00:09:34.836 --> 00:09:37.663 full of roses, full of flowers. 00:09:37.663 --> 00:09:40.506 We could not possibly stay indoors, 00:09:40.506 --> 00:09:43.714 with all these sandbags in the windows. 00:09:43.714 --> 00:09:46.492 [It was] very sad, dark. 00:09:46.492 --> 00:09:49.595 So, we chose a small spot in the garden, 00:09:49.595 --> 00:09:52.691 and Mahmoud put on his prosthesis, 00:09:52.691 --> 00:09:55.836 the other patients did the same, 00:09:55.836 --> 00:09:58.765 and they started practicing for the last time, 00:09:58.765 --> 00:09:59.924 before being discharged. 00:09:59.924 --> 00:10:04.065 And suddenly, they started fighting. 00:10:04.065 --> 00:10:06.013 Two groups of Mujahiddeen started fighting. 00:10:06.013 --> 00:10:10.738 We could hear the bullets passing in the air. 00:10:10.738 --> 00:10:15.295 So we dashed, all of us, towards the shelter. 00:10:17.167 --> 00:10:19.285 Mahmoud grabbed his son, I grabbed someone else. 00:10:19.285 --> 00:10:22.235 Everybody was grabbing something. 00:10:22.235 --> 00:10:25.024 We ran. You know, 50 meters can be a long distance, 00:10:25.024 --> 00:10:26.874 if you are totally exposed, 00:10:26.874 --> 00:10:29.735 but we managed to reach the shelter. 00:10:29.735 --> 00:10:33.874 (Sigh of relief) Inside, all of us [were] panting, 00:10:33.874 --> 00:10:38.495 we stopped a moment, and I heard Rafi, telling his father, 00:10:38.495 --> 00:10:42.548 "Father, you can run, faster than me!" (Laughter) 00:10:42.548 --> 00:10:45.946 And Mahmoud, "Of course I can! 00:10:45.946 --> 00:10:49.664 I can run, and now, you can go to school. 00:10:49.664 --> 00:10:52.008 No need of staying with me all the day, 00:10:52.008 --> 00:10:53.934 pushing my wheelchair". 00:10:53.934 --> 00:10:56.715 Later on, we took them home, 00:10:56.715 --> 00:10:58.238 and I will never forget 00:10:58.238 --> 00:11:01.424 Mahmoud and his son, walking together, 00:11:01.424 --> 00:11:04.504 pushing the empty wheelchair. 00:11:04.504 --> 00:11:06.715 And then I understood. 00:11:06.715 --> 00:11:10.758 Physical rehabilitation is a priority. 00:11:10.758 --> 00:11:14.753 Dignity cannot wait for better times. 00:11:15.664 --> 00:11:20.741 Well, from that day on, we've never closed a single day. 00:11:20.741 --> 00:11:22.444 Well, sometimes we suspended it for a few hours, 00:11:22.444 --> 00:11:27.544 but we've never closed again. 00:11:27.544 --> 00:11:30.336 I met Mahmoud one year later. 00:11:30.336 --> 00:11:33.110 He was in good shape. 00:11:34.302 --> 00:11:36.031 A bit thinner. 00:11:36.581 --> 00:11:40.490 He needed to change his prosthesis, 00:11:40.490 --> 00:11:42.951 a new pair of prosthesis. 00:11:42.951 --> 00:11:44.558 I asked about his son, he told me, 00:11:44.558 --> 00:11:46.875 "He's at school, he's doing quite well." 00:11:46.875 --> 00:11:51.049 But I understood he wanted to tell me something. 00:11:51.049 --> 00:11:55.975 So, I asked him, "What is [it]?" 00:11:55.975 --> 00:12:00.640 He was sweating, he was clearly embarrassed 00:12:00.640 --> 00:12:05.396 and he was standing in front of me, his head down. 00:12:06.616 --> 00:12:11.607 He said, "You have taught me to walk. 00:12:11.607 --> 00:12:13.670 Thank you very much. 00:12:13.670 --> 00:12:17.901 Now, help me not to be a beggar anymore." 00:12:17.901 --> 00:12:20.652 That was the job. 00:12:20.652 --> 00:12:24.734 "My children are growing. I feel ashamed. 00:12:24.734 --> 00:12:28.450 I don't want them to be teased at school, 00:12:28.450 --> 00:12:31.106 by the other students". 00:12:32.786 --> 00:12:36.053 I thought, "How much money do I have in my pocket? 00:12:36.053 --> 00:12:39.300 Just give him some money? It's the easiest way." 00:12:39.300 --> 00:12:41.270 He read my mind, 00:12:41.270 --> 00:12:45.737 and he said, "I ask for a job." 00:12:47.260 --> 00:12:49.713 And then he added something 00:12:50.513 --> 00:12:53.487 I will never forget for the rest of my life. 00:12:54.174 --> 00:13:01.629 He said, "I am a scrap of a man, but if you help me, 00:13:01.629 --> 00:13:04.642 I'm ready to do anything, 00:13:04.642 --> 00:13:08.013 even if I have to crawl on the ground". 00:13:09.761 --> 00:13:11.864 And then he sat down, I sat down too, 00:13:11.864 --> 00:13:15.130 with goose bumps everywhere. 00:13:20.054 --> 00:13:27.661 Legless, with only one arm, illiterate, unskilled. 00:13:28.761 --> 00:13:32.202 What job [could I offer] him? 00:13:33.864 --> 00:13:36.852 Najmuddin told me, "Well, we have a vacancy 00:13:36.852 --> 00:13:40.050 in the carpentry shop. We can..." 00:13:40.050 --> 00:13:44.010 "What?", I said. "Stop..." 00:13:44.010 --> 00:13:49.263 [Najmuddin]: "Well, yes, we need to increase the production of feet. 00:13:49.263 --> 00:13:51.157 We need to employ someone 00:13:51.157 --> 00:13:56.371 to glue and screw the sole of the feet. 00:13:56.371 --> 00:13:58.796 We need to increase the production." 00:13:58.796 --> 00:14:02.787 "Excuse me?" -- I could not believe! 00:14:04.847 --> 00:14:11.404 And then he said, "No, we can modify the workbench, 00:14:11.404 --> 00:14:14.483 maybe to put a special stool, a special anvil, 00:14:14.483 --> 00:14:18.441 a special device, and maybe an electrical screwdriver." 00:14:18.441 --> 00:14:22.029 I said, "It's insane! 00:14:22.029 --> 00:14:24.627 And it's even cruel to think of anything like this! 00:14:24.627 --> 00:14:28.195 That's a production line, and a very fast one. 00:14:28.195 --> 00:14:32.271 It's cruel to offer him a job, 00:14:32.271 --> 00:14:36.121 knowing that he's going to fail." 00:14:36.921 --> 00:14:41.131 But with Najmuddin, we cannot discuss, so... 00:14:41.131 --> 00:14:42.574 (Laughter) 00:14:44.054 --> 00:14:46.915 The only thing I could manage to obtain 00:14:46.915 --> 00:14:51.171 was a kind of compromise, 00:14:51.171 --> 00:14:53.705 "Only one week, one week trial, 00:14:53.705 --> 00:14:55.923 not a single day more." 00:14:59.176 --> 00:15:02.204 One week later, Mahmoud was the fastest 00:15:02.204 --> 00:15:04.229 in the production line. 00:15:06.550 --> 00:15:09.025 I told Nahjmuddin, "That's a trick!" 00:15:09.025 --> 00:15:10.000 (Laughter) 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.575 "I can't believe it!" The production was 20% up! 00:15:13.575 --> 00:15:16.265 "It's a trick, it's a trick!", I said. 00:15:16.265 --> 00:15:21.084 And then, I asked for a verification: it was true. 00:15:21.814 --> 00:15:24.203 [Najmuddin's comment] was: 00:15:24.203 --> 00:15:27.066 "Mahmoud has something to prove." 00:15:27.836 --> 00:15:30.943 I remember, Mahmoud -- he got the job of course -- 00:15:30.943 --> 00:15:35.026 is the one sitting on the left. 00:15:39.145 --> 00:15:43.649 He got the job, of course, and then it was incredible. 00:15:43.649 --> 00:15:49.626 I understood I was wrong again. Mahmood looked taller. 00:15:49.626 --> 00:15:56.204 I remember him sitting behind the workbench, smiling. 00:15:56.204 --> 00:16:00.413 He was a new man, tall again. 00:16:01.466 --> 00:16:07.743 Of course, I understood that what made him stand tall -- 00:16:07.743 --> 00:16:09.625 yeah, well, the legs, thank you very much -- 00:16:09.625 --> 00:16:14.401 but as a first step, it was the dignity. 00:16:14.401 --> 00:16:19.315 He has regained his full dignity thanks to that job. 00:16:20.038 --> 00:16:21.615 So, of course, I understood 00:16:21.615 --> 00:16:26.471 and then we started a new policy, completely different. 00:16:26.471 --> 00:16:30.506 Now, we decided to employ as many disabled [people] as possible, 00:16:30.506 --> 00:16:33.610 to train them in any possible job. 00:16:33.610 --> 00:16:37.817 It became a policy of positive discrimination, 00:16:37.817 --> 00:16:40.164 [as] we call it now. 00:16:40.904 --> 00:16:42.881 And you know what? 00:16:42.881 --> 00:16:44.444 It' s good for everybody. 00:16:44.444 --> 00:16:47.140 Everybody benefits from that: 00:16:47.140 --> 00:16:49.122 those employed, of course, 00:16:49.122 --> 00:16:54.223 because they get a job and dignity. 00:16:54.223 --> 00:16:58.143 But also for the newcomers. They are 7,000 every year, 00:16:58.143 --> 00:17:00.686 people coming in for the first time. 00:17:00.686 --> 00:17:02.420 And you should see the face of these people 00:17:02.420 --> 00:17:05.943 when they realized that those assisting them are like them. 00:17:05.943 --> 00:17:10.483 Sometimes you see them, they look... "Oh!" 00:17:10.483 --> 00:17:12.263 And you see their face 00:17:12.263 --> 00:17:17.304 and the surprise turns into hope. 00:17:19.384 --> 00:17:22.778 And it's easy for me as well to train someone NOTE Paragraph 00:17:22.778 --> 00:17:25.644 who has already passed through the experience of disability. 00:17:26.164 --> 00:17:28.103 They learn much faster. 00:17:28.103 --> 00:17:31.448 The motivation, the empathy they can establish with the patient 00:17:31.448 --> 00:17:34.074 is completely different, completely. 00:17:35.254 --> 00:17:37.905 Scraps of men do not exist. 00:17:37.905 --> 00:17:43.265 People like Mahmoud are agents of change. 00:17:43.265 --> 00:17:46.421 And, when you start changing, you cannot stop. 00:17:46.421 --> 00:17:48.388 So, employing people, yes, 00:17:48.388 --> 00:17:54.733 but also we started a program of microfinance education 00:17:54.733 --> 00:17:58.864 and -- sorry, this machine. 00:17:58.864 --> 00:18:01.760 That's Najmuddin, the one with the white coat. 00:18:01.760 --> 00:18:04.376 Terrible Najmuddin, he's that one. 00:18:04.376 --> 00:18:11.922 And when you start you cannot stop, so you do vocational training, 00:18:11.922 --> 00:18:17.414 microfinance, home education for those who cannot go to school. 00:18:21.025 --> 00:18:27.574 Physiotherapy can also be done at home, not only... 00:18:29.964 --> 00:18:32.629 Physiotherapy can be done in an orthopaedic center, 00:18:32.629 --> 00:18:35.805 but also in the houses of the people. 00:18:35.805 --> 00:18:39.130 There is always a better way to do things. 00:18:40.385 --> 00:18:45.119 I have learned a lot from people like Najmuddin, Mahmoud, Rafi. 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:46.935 They are my teachers. 00:18:46.935 --> 00:18:52.414 I have a wish, a big wish, that this way of working, 00:18:52.414 --> 00:18:57.050 this way of thinking is going to be implemented in other countries. 00:18:58.089 --> 00:19:01.713 There are plenty of countries at war, like Afghanistan. 00:19:02.303 --> 00:19:05.915 It is possible and it is not difficult. 00:19:05.915 --> 00:19:09.156 All we have to do is to -- 00:19:13.293 --> 00:19:14.565 how can I say it? -- 00:19:14.958 --> 00:19:19.771 is to listen to the people that we are supposed to assist, 00:19:20.715 --> 00:19:25.434 to make them part of the decision-making process, 00:19:25.434 --> 00:19:28.857 and then, of course, to adapt. 00:19:28.857 --> 00:19:32.280 This is my big wish. 00:19:32.280 --> 00:19:35.303 Well, don't think the changes in Afghanistan are over. 00:19:35.303 --> 00:19:37.369 Not at all. We are going on. 00:19:37.369 --> 00:19:40.519 Recently, we have just started a program, 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:46.325 a sport program: basketball for wheelchair users. 00:19:46.755 --> 00:19:49.023 We transport wheelchairs everwhere in the country. 00:19:49.023 --> 00:19:54.552 We have several teams now, in many parts of Afghanistan. 00:19:54.552 --> 00:19:59.059 At the beginning, when Najmuddin told me, 00:19:59.609 --> 00:20:03.305 "We would like to start it.", I hesitated, I said, "No!" 00:20:03.305 --> 00:20:06.746 Can you imagine? I said, "No, no, no, we can't." 00:20:06.746 --> 00:20:10.372 And then I asked the usual question, "Is it a priority? 00:20:10.372 --> 00:20:14.036 Is it really necessary?" 00:20:14.036 --> 00:20:15.600 Well, now you should see me. 00:20:15.600 --> 00:20:18.725 I never miss a single training session. 00:20:18.725 --> 00:20:21.712 The night before a match, I'm very nervous, 00:20:21.712 --> 00:20:25.239 and you should see me during the match. 00:20:25.239 --> 00:20:28.510 I shout, well like a true Italian! 00:20:28.510 --> 00:20:31.005 (Laughter) 00:20:31.005 --> 00:20:35.493 What's next? What is going to be the next change? 00:20:35.973 --> 00:20:38.927 I don't know yet, but I'm sure that Najmuddin and his friends, 00:20:38.927 --> 00:20:42.145 they already have [something] in mind. 00:20:42.145 --> 00:20:44.134 That was my story. Thank you very much. 00:20:44.134 --> 00:20:46.237 (Applauses)