[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:01.38,0:00:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charlie Rose: So Larry sent me an email Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.01,0:00:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he basically said, Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.99,0:00:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've got to make sure that \Nwe don't seem like we're Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.72,0:00:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple of middle-aged boring men. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.21,0:00:18.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, I'm flattered by that -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.26,0:00:20.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) — Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.63,0:00:24.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I'm a bit older, Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.14,0:00:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he has a bit more net worth than I do. Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.29,0:00:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Larry Page: Well, thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.89,0:00:33.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: So we'll have a conversation about Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.87,0:00:36.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Internet, and we'll have a conversation Google, Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.57,0:00:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we'll have a conversation about search Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.00,0:00:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and privacy, Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.37,0:00:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also about your philosophy Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.93,0:00:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a sense of how you've connected the dots Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.38,0:00:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how this journey that began Dialogue: 0,0:00:45.47,0:00:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some time ago Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.76,0:00:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has such interesting prospects. Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.65,0:00:51.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mainly we want to talk about the future. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.25,0:00:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my first question: Where is Google Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.84,0:00:54.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where is it going? Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.88,0:00:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well, this is something we think about a lot, Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.34,0:00:59.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our mission we defined a long time ago Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.92,0:01:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to organize the world's information Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.18,0:01:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and make it universally accessible and useful. Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.62,0:01:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people always say, Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.66,0:01:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that really what you guys are still doing? Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.88,0:01:11.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I always kind of think about that myself, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.99,0:01:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not quite sure. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.19,0:01:18.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But actually, when I think about search, Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.20,0:01:20.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's such a deep thing for all of us, Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.81,0:01:23.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really understand what you want, Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.06,0:01:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand the world's information, Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.42,0:01:28.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're still very much in the early stages of that, Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.96,0:01:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is totally crazy. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.77,0:01:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've been at it for 15 years already, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.29,0:01:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's not at all done. Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.86,0:01:39.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: When it's done, how will it be? Dialogue: 0,0:01:39.54,0:01:42.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well, I guess, Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.26,0:01:44.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in thinking about where we're going -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.66,0:01:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, why is it not done? -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.94,0:01:49.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of it is just computing's kind of a mess. Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.38,0:01:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, your computer\Ndoesn't know where you are, Dialogue: 0,0:01:51.18,0:01:53.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't know what you're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.22,0:01:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it doesn't know what you know, Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.90,0:01:57.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot we've been trying to do recently Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.47,0:02:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just make your devices work, Dialogue: 0,0:02:00.77,0:02:03.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make them understand your context. Dialogue: 0,0:02:03.11,0:02:05.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Google Now, you know, knows where you are, Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.11,0:02:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knows what you may need. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.30,0:02:11.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So really having computing \Nwork and understand you Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.40,0:02:13.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and understand that information, Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.46,0:02:15.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we really haven't done that yet. Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.77,0:02:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's still very, very clunky. Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.32,0:02:19.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Tell me, when you look at what Google is doing, Dialogue: 0,0:02:19.68,0:02:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where does Deep Mind fit? Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.65,0:02:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, so Deep Mind is a company Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.24,0:02:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we just acquired recently. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.77,0:02:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's in the U.K. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.85,0:02:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, let me tell you the way we got there, Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.50,0:02:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was looking at search Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.73,0:02:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really understanding, Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.36,0:02:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to understand everything, Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.59,0:02:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also make the computers not clunky Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.19,0:02:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really understand you -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.39,0:02:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like, voice was really important. Dialogue: 0,0:02:44.51,0:02:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what's the state of the art \Non speech recognition? Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.37,0:02:49.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not very good. Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.03,0:02:51.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't really understand you. Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.09,0:02:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we started doing machine learning research Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.10,0:02:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to improve that. Dialogue: 0,0:02:54.63,0:02:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That helped a lot. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.34,0:02:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we started just looking at things like YouTube. Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.70,0:03:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we understand YouTube? Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.67,0:03:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we actually ran machine learning on YouTube Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.36,0:03:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it discovered cats, just by itself. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.44,0:03:09.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, that's an important concept. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.53,0:03:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we realized there's really something here. Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.52,0:03:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we can learn what cats are, Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.64,0:03:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that must be really important. Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.72,0:03:19.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think Deep Mind, Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.34,0:03:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's really amazing about Deep Mind Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.71,0:03:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that it can actually -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.71,0:03:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're learning things in this unsupervised way. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.27,0:03:29.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They started with video games, Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.84,0:03:32.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really just, maybe I can show the video, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.33,0:03:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just playing video games, Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.53,0:03:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and learning how to do that automatically. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.55,0:03:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Take a look at the video games Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.40,0:03:40.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how machines are coming to be able Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.81,0:03:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do some remarkable things. Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.27,0:03:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: The amazing thing about this Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.60,0:03:46.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is this is, I mean, obviously, Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.28,0:03:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these are old games, Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.75,0:03:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the system just sees what you see, the pixels, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.55,0:03:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has the controls and it has the score, Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.98,0:03:57.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's learned to play all of these games, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.19,0:03:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same program. Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.77,0:04:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's learned to play all of these games Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.81,0:04:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with superhuman performance. Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.59,0:04:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've not been able to do things like this Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.45,0:04:05.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with computers before. Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.96,0:04:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe I'll just narrate this one quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.26,0:04:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is boxing, and it figures out it can Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.06,0:04:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of pin the opponent down. Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.70,0:04:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The computer's on the left, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.44,0:04:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's just racking up points. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.52,0:04:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So imagine if this kind Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.61,0:04:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of intelligence were thrown at your schedule, Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.74,0:04:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or your information needs, or things like that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.37,0:04:29.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're really just at the beginning of that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.99,0:04:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what I'm really excited about. Dialogue: 0,0:04:32.36,0:04:34.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: When you look at all that's taken place Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.83,0:04:37.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Deep Mind and the boxing, Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.41,0:04:39.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also a part of where we're going Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.75,0:04:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is artificial intelligence. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.64,0:04:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where are we, when you look at that? Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.44,0:04:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well, I think for me, Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.22,0:04:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is kind of one of the most exciting things Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.73,0:04:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've seen in a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:04:50.64,0:04:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The guy who started this company, Demis, Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.05,0:04:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has a neuroscience and a\Ncomputer science background. Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.83,0:04:57.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went back to school Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.46,0:05:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get his Ph.D. to study the brain. Dialogue: 0,0:05:00.58,0:05:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I think we're seeing a lot of exciting work Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.20,0:05:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on that sort of crosses computer science Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.29,0:05:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and neuroscience Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.04,0:05:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of really understanding Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.36,0:05:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it takes to make something smart Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.82,0:05:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do really interesting things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.53,0:05:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: But where's the level of it now? Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.67,0:05:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how fast do you think we are moving? Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.37,0:05:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well, this is the state of the art right now, Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.64,0:05:24.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding cats on YouTube Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.77,0:05:26.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and things like that, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.06,0:05:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improving voice recognition. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.20,0:05:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We used a lot of machine learning Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.62,0:05:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to improve things incrementally, Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.10,0:05:36.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I think for me, this example's really exciting, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.50,0:05:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's one program Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.74,0:05:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can do a lot of different things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.78,0:05:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: I don't know if we can do this, Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.92,0:05:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we've got the image of the cat. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.10,0:05:44.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would be wonderful to see this. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.86,0:05:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is how machines looked at cats Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.37,0:05:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what they came up with. Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.48,0:05:49.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we see that image? Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.54,0:05:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah.\NCR: There it is. Can you see the cat? Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.94,0:05:53.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Designed by machines, seen by machines. Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.97,0:05:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: That's right. Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.08,0:05:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is learned from just watching YouTube. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.68,0:05:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's no training, Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.55,0:06:00.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no notion of a cat, Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.94,0:06:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but this concept of a cat Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.50,0:06:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something important that you would understand, Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.30,0:06:08.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now that the machines can kind of understand. Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.83,0:06:09.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe just finishing Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.100,0:06:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also on the search part, Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.22,0:06:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it started with search, really understanding Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.01,0:06:17.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people's context and their information. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.57,0:06:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did have a video Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.43,0:06:21.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to show quickly on that Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.44,0:06:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we actually found. Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.09,0:06:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Video) ["Soy, Kenya"] Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.58,0:06:30.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Zack Matere: Not long ago, Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.45,0:06:33.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I planted a crop of potatoes. Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.04,0:06:36.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then suddenly they started\Ndying one after the other. Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.44,0:06:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I checked out the books and \Nthey didn't tell me much. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.19,0:06:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I went and I did a search. Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.13,0:06:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,["Zack Matere, Farmer"] Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.61,0:06:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Potato diseases. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.76,0:06:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the websites told me Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.48,0:06:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that ants could be the problem. Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.39,0:06:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It said, sprinkle wood ash over the plants. Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.66,0:06:56.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then after a few days the ants disappeared. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.94,0:06:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got excited about the Internet. Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.54,0:07:01.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have this friend Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.20,0:07:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who really would like to expand his business. Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.82,0:07:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went with him to the cyber cafe Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.01,0:07:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we checked out several sites. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.55,0:07:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I met him next, he was going to put a windmill Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.10,0:07:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the local school. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.79,0:07:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt proud because Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.39,0:07:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that wasn't there before Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.42,0:07:21.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was suddenly there. Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.31,0:07:23.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized that not everybody Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.100,0:07:25.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can be able to access Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.53,0:07:27.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what I was able to access. Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.02,0:07:28.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought that I need to have an Internet Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.86,0:07:30.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my grandmother can use. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.66,0:07:33.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought about a notice board. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.11,0:07:35.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A simple wooden notice board. Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.03,0:07:37.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I get information on my phone, Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.34,0:07:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm able to post the information Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.58,0:07:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the notice board. Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.30,0:07:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's basically like a computer. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.16,0:07:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I use the Internet to help people. Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.05,0:07:51.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I am searching for Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.46,0:07:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a better life Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.00,0:07:57.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me and my neighbors. Dialogue: 0,0:07:57.12,0:08:01.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So many people have access to information, Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.10,0:08:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's no follow-up to that. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.68,0:08:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the follow-up to that is our knowledge. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.19,0:08:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When people have the knowledge, Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.80,0:08:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can find solutions Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.42,0:08:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without having to helped out. Dialogue: 0,0:08:11.44,0:08:13.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Information is powerful, Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.56,0:08:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it is how we use it that will define us. Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.16,0:08:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.54,0:08:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Now, the amazing thing about that video, Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.09,0:08:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually, was we just read about it in the news, Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.56,0:08:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we found this gentlemen, Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.06,0:08:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and made that little clip. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.38,0:08:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: When I talk to people about you, Dialogue: 0,0:08:32.77,0:08:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they say to me, people who know you well, say, Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.37,0:08:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Larry wants to change the world, Dialogue: 0,0:08:37.26,0:08:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he believes technology can show the way. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.38,0:08:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that means access to the Internet. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.23,0:08:44.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to do with languages. Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.96,0:08:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It also means how people can get access Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.79,0:08:50.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and do things that will affect their community, Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.50,0:08:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is an example. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.99,0:08:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, that's right, and I think for me, Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.57,0:08:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have been focusing on access more, Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.95,0:09:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we're talking about the future. Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.15,0:09:03.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We recently released this Loon Project Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.82,0:09:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is using balloons to do it. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.12,0:09:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It sounds totally crazy. Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.78,0:09:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We can show the video here. Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.32,0:09:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually, two out of three people in the world Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.80,0:09:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't have good Internet access now. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.19,0:09:17.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We actually think this can really help people Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.09,0:09:19.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of cost-efficiently. Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.15,0:09:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: It's a balloon.\NLP: Yeah, get access to the Internet. Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.52,0:09:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: And why does this balloon give you access Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.66,0:09:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Internet? Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.88,0:09:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there was some interesting things Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.09,0:09:28.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you had to do to figure out how Dialogue: 0,0:09:28.93,0:09:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to make balloons possible, Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.06,0:09:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they didn't have to be tethered. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.81,0:09:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, and this is a good example of innovation. Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.89,0:09:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, we've been thinking about this idea Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.43,0:09:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for five years or more Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.20,0:09:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before we started working on it, Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.80,0:09:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was just really, Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.12,0:09:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do we get access points up high, cheaply? Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.64,0:09:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You normally have to use satellites Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.44,0:09:50.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it takes a long time to launch them. Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.37,0:09:52.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you saw there how easy it is to launch a balloon Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.87,0:09:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get it up, Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.39,0:09:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually again, it's the power of the Internet, Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.39,0:09:58.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a search on it, Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.17,0:10:00.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I found, 30, 40 years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.47,0:10:02.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone had put up a balloon Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.36,0:10:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it had gone around the Earth multiple times. Dialogue: 0,0:10:05.17,0:10:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought, why can't we do that today? Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.00,0:10:10.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's how this project got going. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.37,0:10:12.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: But are you at the mercy of the wind? Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.70,0:10:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, but it turns out, Dialogue: 0,0:10:14.82,0:10:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we did some weather simulations Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.31,0:10:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which probably hadn't really been done before, Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.86,0:10:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you control the altitude of the balloons, Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.97,0:10:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which you can do by pumping air into them Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.25,0:10:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other ways, Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.07,0:10:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can actually control roughly where they go, Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.00,0:10:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I think we can build a worldwide mesh Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.21,0:10:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of these balloons that can cover the whole planet. Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.55,0:10:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Before I talk about the future and transportation, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.79,0:10:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you've been a nerd for a while, Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.68,0:10:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this fascination you have with transportation Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.11,0:10:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and automated cars and bicycles, Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.17,0:10:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me talk a bit about what's been the subject here Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.91,0:10:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,earlier with Edward Snowden. Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.35,0:10:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is security and privacy. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.46,0:10:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have to have been thinking about that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:51.80,0:10:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, absolutely. Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.15,0:10:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw the picture of Sergey with\NEdward Snowden yesterday. Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.99,0:10:58.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of you may have seen it. Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.86,0:11:02.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think, for me, I guess, Dialogue: 0,0:11:02.03,0:11:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,privacy and security are a really important thing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.70,0:11:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We think about it in terms of both things, Dialogue: 0,0:11:07.94,0:11:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think you can't have privacy without security, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.84,0:11:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so let me just talk about security first, Dialogue: 0,0:11:13.22,0:11:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you asked about Snowden and all of that, Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.81,0:11:18.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I'll say a little bit about privacy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:18.25,0:11:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think for me, it's tremendously disappointing Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.05,0:11:23.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the government Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.49,0:11:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secretly did all this stuff and didn't tell us. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.82,0:11:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think we can have a democracy Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.12,0:11:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if we're having to protect you and our users Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.55,0:11:34.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the government Dialogue: 0,0:11:34.25,0:11:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for stuff that we've never had a conversation about. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.05,0:11:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I don't mean we have to know Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.95,0:11:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the particular terrorist attack is they're worried Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.64,0:11:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about protecting us from, Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.41,0:11:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we do need to know Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.20,0:11:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the parameters of it is, Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.61,0:11:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what kind of surveillance the government's Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.66,0:11:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to do and how and why, Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.83,0:11:53.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think we haven't had that conversation. Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.10,0:11:55.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think the government's actually done Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.67,0:11:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,itself a tremendous disservice Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.84,0:11:59.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by doing all that in secret. Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.100,0:12:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Never coming to Google Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.61,0:12:03.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to ask for anything. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.14,0:12:05.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Not Google, but the public. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.17,0:12:08.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we need to \Nhave a debate about that, Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.94,0:12:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or we can't have a functioning democracy. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.44,0:12:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just not possible. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.85,0:12:15.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm sad that Google's Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.09,0:12:17.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the position of protecting you and our users Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.71,0:12:19.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the government Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.24,0:12:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing secret thing that nobody knows about. Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.48,0:12:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't make any sense. Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.23,0:12:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Yeah. And then there's a privacy side of it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.22,0:12:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yes. The privacy side, Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.65,0:12:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's -- the world is changing. Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.62,0:12:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You carry a phone. It knows where you are. Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.52,0:12:37.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's so much more information about you, Dialogue: 0,0:12:37.61,0:12:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's an important thing, Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.45,0:12:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it makes sense why people are asking Dialogue: 0,0:12:42.73,0:12:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difficult questions. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.76,0:12:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We spend a lot of time thinking about this Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.13,0:12:50.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what the issues are. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.84,0:12:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm a little bit -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.57,0:12:53.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the main thing that we need to do Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.83,0:12:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just provide people choice, Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.19,0:12:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show them what data's being collected -- Dialogue: 0,0:12:58.70,0:13:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,search history, location data. Dialogue: 0,0:13:03.45,0:13:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're excited about incognito mode in Chrome, Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.23,0:13:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and doing that in more ways, Dialogue: 0,0:13:08.48,0:13:09.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just giving people more choice Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.87,0:13:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and more awareness of what's going on. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.16,0:13:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I also think it's very easy. Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.56,0:13:16.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What I'm worried is that we throw out Dialogue: 0,0:13:16.83,0:13:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the baby with the bathwater. Dialogue: 0,0:13:18.92,0:13:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I look at, on your show, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.84,0:13:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I kind of lost my voice, Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.56,0:13:24.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I haven't gotten it back. Dialogue: 0,0:13:24.89,0:13:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm hoping that by talking to you Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.53,0:13:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to get it back. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.18,0:13:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: If I could do anything, I would do that. Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.92,0:13:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: All right. So get out your voodoo doll Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.10,0:13:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whatever you need to do. Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.52,0:13:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think, you know what, I look at that, Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.84,0:13:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made that public, Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.67,0:13:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got all this information. Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.89,0:13:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got a survey done on medical conditions Dialogue: 0,0:13:42.62,0:13:45.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with people who have similar issues, Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.99,0:13:50.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I look at medical records, and I say, Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.73,0:13:52.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn't it be amazing Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.14,0:13:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if everyone's medical records were available Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.19,0:13:55.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anonymously Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.87,0:13:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to research doctors? Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.51,0:14:01.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when someone accesses your medical record, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.55,0:14:03.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a research doctor, Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.16,0:14:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could see, you could see which doctor Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.79,0:14:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accessed it and why, Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.65,0:14:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you could maybe learn about Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.23,0:14:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what conditions you have. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.86,0:14:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think if we just did that, Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.36,0:14:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we'd save 100,000 lives this year. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.53,0:14:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Absolutely. Let me go — (Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.48,0:14:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: So I guess I'm just very worried that Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.24,0:14:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with Internet privacy, Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.04,0:14:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're doing the same thing we're \Ndoing with medical records, Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.35,0:14:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is we're throwing out the baby with the bathwater, Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.88,0:14:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're not really thinking Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.70,0:14:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the tremendous good that can come Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.91,0:14:33.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from people sharing information Dialogue: 0,0:14:33.10,0:14:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the right people in the right ways. Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.68,0:14:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: And the necessary condition Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.92,0:14:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people have to have confidence Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.62,0:14:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that their information will not be abused. Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.08,0:14:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, and I had this problem with my voice stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.85,0:14:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was scared to share it. Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.36,0:14:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sergey encouraged me to do that, Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.25,0:14:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was a great thing to do. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.08,0:14:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: And the response has been overwhelming. Dialogue: 0,0:14:50.81,0:14:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, and people are super positive. Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.47,0:14:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got thousands and thousands of people Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.30,0:14:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with similar conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.59,0:14:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which there's no data on today. Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.62,0:15:00.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was a really good thing. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.98,0:15:03.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: So talking about the future, what is it about you Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.100,0:15:07.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and transportation systems? Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.75,0:15:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah. I guess I was just frustrated Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.93,0:15:12.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with this when I was at college in Michigan. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.47,0:15:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to get on the bus and take it Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.92,0:15:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and wait for it. Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.56,0:15:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was cold and snowing. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.74,0:15:20.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did some research on how much it cost, Dialogue: 0,0:15:20.40,0:15:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just became a bit obsessed\Nwith transportation systems. Dialogue: 0,0:15:26.82,0:15:29.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: And that began the idea of an automated car. Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.19,0:15:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, about 18 years ago I learned about Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.88,0:15:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people working on automated cars, Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.07,0:15:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I became fascinated by that, Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.69,0:15:38.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it takes a while to \Nget these projects going, Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.47,0:15:43.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm super excited about the possibilities of that Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.56,0:15:45.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,improving the world. Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.23,0:15:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's 20 million people or more injured per year. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.76,0:15:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the leading cause of death Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.74,0:15:53.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for people under 34 in the U.S. Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.87,0:15:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: So you're talking about saving lives. Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.42,0:15:57.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, and also saving space Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.78,0:16:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and making life better. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.70,0:16:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Los Angeles is half parking lots and roads, Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.94,0:16:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,half of the area, Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.67,0:16:10.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and most cities are not far behind, actually. Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.50,0:16:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just crazy Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.06,0:16:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that's what we use our space for. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.66,0:16:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: And how soon will we be there? Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.00,0:16:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: I think we can be there very, very soon. Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.93,0:16:21.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've driven well over 100,000 miles Dialogue: 0,0:16:21.43,0:16:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now totally automated. Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.52,0:16:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm super excited about getting that out quickly. Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.17,0:16:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: But it's not only you're\Ntalking about automated cars. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.58,0:16:33.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You also have this idea for bicycles. Dialogue: 0,0:16:33.96,0:16:36.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well at Google, we got this idea Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.21,0:16:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we should just provide free bikes to everyone, Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.66,0:16:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's been amazing, most of the trips. Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.43,0:16:44.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You see bikes going everywhere, Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.01,0:16:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the bikes wear out. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.58,0:16:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're getting used 24 hours a day. Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.03,0:16:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: But you want to put them above the street, too. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.19,0:16:50.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well I said, how do we get people Dialogue: 0,0:16:50.77,0:16:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using bikes more? Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.30,0:16:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: We may have a video here. Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.92,0:16:55.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, let's show the video. Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.20,0:16:58.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just got excited about this. Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.29,0:17:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Music) Dialogue: 0,0:17:04.21,0:17:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is actually how you might separate Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.64,0:17:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bikes from cars with minimal cost. Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.71,0:17:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, it looks totally crazy, Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.47,0:17:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I was actually thinking about our campus, Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.79,0:17:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with the Zippies and stuff, Dialogue: 0,0:17:20.85,0:17:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just trying to get a lot more bike usage, Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.15,0:17:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was thinking about, Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.70,0:17:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how do you cost-effectively separate Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.53,0:17:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bikes from traffic? Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.94,0:17:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I went and searched, Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.09,0:17:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is what I found. Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.46,0:17:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're not actually working on this, Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.31,0:17:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that particular thing, Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.60,0:17:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it gets your imagination going. Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.66,0:17:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Let me close with this. Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.42,0:17:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Give me a sense of the philosophy \Nof your own mind. Dialogue: 0,0:17:40.76,0:17:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have this idea of [Google X]. Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.25,0:17:46.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't simply want Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.25,0:17:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go in some small, measurable arena of progress. Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.84,0:17:53.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, I think Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.56,0:17:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many of the things we just \Ntalked about are like that, Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.69,0:17:58.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they're really -- Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.64,0:18:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I almost use the economic concept of additionality, Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.27,0:18:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which means that you're doing something Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.46,0:18:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that wouldn't happen unless \Nyou were actually doing it. Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.41,0:18:10.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think the more you can do things like that, Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.55,0:18:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bigger impact you have, Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.62,0:18:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's about doing things Dialogue: 0,0:18:15.61,0:18:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people might not think are possible. Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.22,0:18:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've been amazed, Dialogue: 0,0:18:21.05,0:18:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more I learn about technology, Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.28,0:18:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more I realize I don't know, Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.47,0:18:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's because this technological horizon, Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.81,0:18:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the thing that you can see to do next, Dialogue: 0,0:18:31.70,0:18:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more you learn about technology, Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.54,0:18:36.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more you learn what's possible. Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.15,0:18:38.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You learn that the balloons are possible Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.39,0:18:40.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's some material\Nthat will work for them. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.73,0:18:43.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: What's interesting about \Nyou too, though, for me, Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.11,0:18:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that, we have lots of people Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.82,0:18:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who are thinking about the future, Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.96,0:18:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are going and looking\Nand they're coming back, Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.23,0:18:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we never see the implementation. Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.36,0:18:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think of somebody you knew Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.96,0:18:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and read about, Tesla. Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.87,0:19:00.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The principle of that for you is what? Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.67,0:19:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Well, I think invention is not enough. Dialogue: 0,0:19:02.46,0:19:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you invent something, Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.68,0:19:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tesla invented electric power that we use, Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.87,0:19:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he struggled to get it out to people. Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.54,0:19:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That had to be done by other people. Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.22,0:19:12.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.84,0:19:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think if we can actually combine both things, Dialogue: 0,0:19:16.71,0:19:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we have an innovation and invention focus, Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.24,0:19:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus the ability to really -- a company Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.22,0:19:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that can really commercialize things Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.21,0:19:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get them to people Dialogue: 0,0:19:26.84,0:19:28.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way that's positive for the world Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.92,0:19:30.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to give people hope. Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.97,0:19:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I'm amazed with the Loon Project Dialogue: 0,0:19:33.75,0:19:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just how excited people were about that, Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.53,0:19:38.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it gave them hope Dialogue: 0,0:19:38.35,0:19:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the two thirds of the world Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.97,0:19:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't have Internet right now that's any good. Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.70,0:19:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Which is a second thing about corporations. Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.82,0:19:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are one of those people who believe Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.29,0:19:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that corporations are an agent of change Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.61,0:19:51.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if they are run well. Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.08,0:19:52.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah. I'm really dismayed Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.90,0:19:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most people think companies are basically evil. Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.20,0:19:57.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They get a bad rap. Dialogue: 0,0:19:57.96,0:20:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think that's somewhat correct. Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.20,0:20:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Companies are doing the same incremental thing Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.07,0:20:04.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they did 50 years ago Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.84,0:20:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or 20 years ago. Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.47,0:20:07.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not really what we need. Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.84,0:20:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We need, especially in technology, Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.06,0:20:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need revolutionary change, Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.17,0:20:13.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not incremental change. Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.58,0:20:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: You once said, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.75,0:20:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I think I've got this about right, Dialogue: 0,0:20:16.57,0:20:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you might consider, Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.22,0:20:19.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rather than giving your money, Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.97,0:20:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you were leaving it to some cause, Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.29,0:20:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just simply giving it to Elon Musk, Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.30,0:20:26.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you had confidence Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.46,0:20:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that he would change the future, Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.30,0:20:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that you would therefore — Dialogue: 0,0:20:30.08,0:20:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Yeah, if you want to go Mars, Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.66,0:20:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wants to go to Mars, Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.38,0:20:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to back up humanity, Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.35,0:20:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a worthy goal, but it's a company, Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.03,0:20:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's philanthropical. Dialogue: 0,0:20:39.58,0:20:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I think we aim to do kind of similar things. Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.53,0:20:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think, you ask, we have a lot of employees Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.52,0:20:48.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Google who have become pretty wealthy. Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.84,0:20:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People make a lot of money in technology. Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.36,0:20:53.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of people in the room are pretty wealthy. Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.51,0:20:55.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're working because you\Nwant to change the world. Dialogue: 0,0:20:55.82,0:20:57.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to make it better. Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.59,0:21:01.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why isn't the company that you work for Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.03,0:21:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worthy not just of your time Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.98,0:21:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but your money as well? Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.13,0:21:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, but we don't have a concept of that. Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.85,0:21:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not how we think about companies, Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.15,0:21:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think it's sad, Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.62,0:21:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because companies are most of our effort. Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.39,0:21:16.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're where most of people's time is, Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.90,0:21:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a lot of the money is, Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.76,0:21:21.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I think I'd like for us to help out Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.11,0:21:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than we are. Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.23,0:21:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: When I close conversations with lots of people, Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.95,0:21:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I always ask this question: Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.73,0:21:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What state of mind, Dialogue: 0,0:21:27.25,0:21:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what quality of mind is it Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.06,0:21:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has served you best? Dialogue: 0,0:21:30.82,0:21:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People like Rupert Murdoch have said curiosity, Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.34,0:21:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other people in the media have said that. Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.97,0:21:38.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bill Gates and Warren Buffett have said focus. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.100,0:21:40.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What quality of mind, Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.42,0:21:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as I leave this audience, Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.80,0:21:45.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has enabled you to think about the future Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.33,0:21:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and at the same time Dialogue: 0,0:21:46.98,0:21:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change the present? Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.18,0:21:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: You know, I think the most important thing -- Dialogue: 0,0:21:50.85,0:21:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I looked at lots of companies Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.46,0:21:55.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why I thought they don't succeed over time. Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.76,0:21:58.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had a more rapid turnover of companies. Dialogue: 0,0:21:58.60,0:22:01.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, what did they fundamentally do wrong? Dialogue: 0,0:22:01.37,0:22:03.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did those companies all do wrong? Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.53,0:22:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And usually it's just that they missed the future. Dialogue: 0,0:22:06.81,0:22:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I think, for me, Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.25,0:22:11.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just try to focus on that and say, Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.67,0:22:13.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is that future really going to be Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.86,0:22:15.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how do we create it, Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.64,0:22:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how do we cause our organization, Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.31,0:22:22.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really focus on that Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.75,0:22:26.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and drive that at a really high rate? Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.08,0:22:27.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that's been curiosity, Dialogue: 0,0:22:27.44,0:22:29.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's been looking at things Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.17,0:22:30.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people might not think about, Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.89,0:22:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working on things that no one else is working on, Dialogue: 0,0:22:33.99,0:22:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because that's where the additionality really is, Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.30,0:22:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be willing to do that, Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.85,0:22:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take that risk. Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.23,0:22:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at Android. Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.30,0:22:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt guilty about working on Android Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.08,0:22:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it was starting. Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.40,0:22:47.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a little startup we bought. Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.36,0:22:50.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't really what we were really working on. Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.03,0:22:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I felt guilty about spending time on that. Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.52,0:22:53.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was stupid. Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.98,0:22:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the future, right? Dialogue: 0,0:22:55.03,0:22:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was a good thing to be working on. Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.31,0:22:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: It is great to see you here. Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.73,0:23:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's great to hear from you, Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.19,0:23:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a pleasure to sit at this table with you. Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.48,0:23:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks, Larry. Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.41,0:23:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,LP: Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.52,0:23:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:23:09.45,0:23:12.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,CR: Larry Page.