WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.993 (Úvodná melódia) - Vacarme (názov rádia) 00:00:02.993 --> 00:00:05.290 Ešte stále vidím, napr. toto je fotka mojej... 00:00:05.290 --> 00:00:08.321 to je moja najmladšia dcéra, je na pláži neďaleko od Sète, 00:00:08.321 --> 00:00:10.542 viem to z rozprávania dcér. 00:00:10.861 --> 00:00:14.002 Je ešte taká maličká, môže mať tak 2-3 roky a vlásky má celé blond, 00:00:14.002 --> 00:00:17.334 tu ukazuje prstom na nebo a tu zase kráča po pláži. 00:00:17.355 --> 00:00:20.886 Vravím si, do kelu, veď som tam bol, takto som ju odfotil ja. 00:00:21.348 --> 00:00:25.310 Vedel som, že som to zažil, no niečo mi bráni... nevidím to úplne jasne. 00:00:25.310 --> 00:00:40.275 (Úvodná melódia) Vacarme. Moja pamäť, to som ja! 00:00:41.945 --> 00:00:45.082 Marc Giouse - Véronique Marti. NOTE Paragraph 00:00:50.620 --> 00:00:51.756 (V. Marti?) Dobrý deň. 00:00:51.756 --> 00:00:55.298 V septembri 2006, presnejšie 17. septembra 00:00:55.617 --> 00:00:59.083 Marc Rueger, štyridsiatnik a otec rodiny z Fribourgu, 00:00:59.083 --> 00:01:02.113 na vlastnej koži pocítil zasiahnutie elektrickým výbojom, 00:01:02.113 --> 00:01:04.551 keď chcel doma opraviť kotol. 00:01:04.958 --> 00:01:08.569 Výboj doňho vošiel cez ukazovák a vyšiel cez hlavu, 00:01:08.583 --> 00:01:12.272 čím vymazal jeden celý úsek Marcovej pamäte. 00:01:12.525 --> 00:01:16.289 Počas nehody mu uletelo preč 10 rokov, posledných 10 rokov jeho života. 00:01:16.537 --> 00:01:20.835 Na druhý deň sa prebúdza v nemocnici 00:01:20.835 --> 00:01:24.172 a takmer nespozná svojich blízkych. Za 24 hodín zostarli, majú šediny. 00:01:24.172 --> 00:01:27.075 Z jeho dievčatiek vyrástli dospievajúce slečny. 00:01:27.431 --> 00:01:31.011 Má pocit, akoby strávil 10 rokov v kóme. 00:01:31.392 --> 00:01:36.282 Ku strate pamäti sa pridáva aj afázia: Marc nedokázal rozprávať ešte dva roky. 00:01:36.282 --> 00:01:39.416 Reč sa mu neskôr vrátila, no pamäť nie. 00:01:39.657 --> 00:01:44.014 Dnes nám priblíži svoj príbeh a najmä to, ako sa dá zotaviť, 00:01:44.420 --> 00:01:46.986 ako je možné znovu nájsť svoju identitu, 00:01:46.986 --> 00:01:50.074 keď mu štvrtina života len tak vyprchala 00:01:50.266 --> 00:01:52.152 a ako to prežívajú jeho blízki. 00:01:52.370 --> 00:01:54.553 Práve teraz "Desať rokov bez spomienok", 00:01:54.553 --> 00:01:58.248 reportáž Cécile Guérinovej, zrealizoval Matthieu Ramsauer. 00:01:58.248 --> 00:02:05.634 (Úvodná melódia) 00:02:05.634 --> 00:02:08.901 (Tik-tak) NOTE Paragraph 00:02:08.901 --> 00:02:11.228 (Marc) No, keď sa mi v roku 2006 stala tá nehoda, 00:02:13.681 --> 00:02:17.988 prebudil som za z kómy so stratou reči, 00:02:19.694 --> 00:02:24.823 ochrnutý na polovicu tela a časť pamäte som mal vymazanú. NOTE Paragraph 00:02:25.380 --> 00:02:27.281 (Cécile) Vymazala sa vám časť života? NOTE Paragraph 00:02:27.281 --> 00:02:35.016 (MR) Úplne, už som si nikdy na nič nespomenul... až na jeden obraz: 00:02:35.726 --> 00:02:39.231 ja a moja manželka, sme uprostred poľa, vedľa auta 00:02:39.231 --> 00:02:40.744 a máme piknik. 00:02:42.491 --> 00:02:49.227 Problém mojej pamäte je, že sa zastavila zhruba niekde v roku 1996. 00:02:49.779 --> 00:02:55.384 No o desať tokov znova pracuje ako má, 00:02:55.384 --> 00:02:57.853 no a to znamená, že v nej nie je časopriestor, NOTE Paragraph 00:02:58.427 --> 00:03:01.325 (CG) Počkajte, takže v roku 2006 máte nehodu, stratíte pamäť, 00:03:01.325 --> 00:03:04.564 teda máte pocit, akoby ste boli v roku 1996? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:04.564 --> 00:03:06.201 (MR) Presne tak. NOTE Paragraph 00:03:06.657 --> 00:03:08.699 (CG) Je tam medzera, ktorá už neexistuje? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:08.699 --> 00:03:10.932 (MR) Áno a nedá sa zmerať, 00:03:10.932 --> 00:03:13.386 v tom zmysle, že nie je ako nejaká kazeta, 00:03:13.386 --> 00:03:17.613 na ktorej je kúsok hudby, potom tam už nie je a je tam pauza: 00:03:17.883 --> 00:03:19.239 nie,mne sa to zlepilo dokopy, 00:03:19.896 --> 00:03:21.247 prebudil som sa... (CG) Zlepilo? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:21.247 --> 00:03:23.836 (MR) povedal som...nespoznal som svoje dcéry NOTE Paragraph 00:03:24.443 --> 00:03:25.783 (CG) Koľko mali rokov? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:25.783 --> 00:03:32.555 (MR) Tá najstaršia mala, 2006, narodila sa v 1991, mala teda 15 rokov NOTE Paragraph 00:03:33.301 --> 00:03:35.005 (CG) A mysleli ste si, že mala 5? NOTE Paragraph 00:03:35.005 --> 00:03:39.208 (MR) Tá druhá má 13 a najmladšia má 10 rokov. 00:03:40.065 --> 00:03:44.885 Tak som jej povedal: "No dobre Camille, ale kto sú tie dve mladé dievčatá?" 00:03:46.254 --> 00:03:50.110 Zato moja vtedajšia manželka (dnes sme už rozvedení), 00:03:50.664 --> 00:03:52.676 ona sa nezmenila a tak som ju spoznal. 00:03:53.228 --> 00:03:54.951 Je pravda, že to neprijali najlepšie 00:03:55.744 --> 00:03:57.621 Myslím, že to pre ne muselo byť ťažké. 00:04:00.641 --> 00:04:03.066 Ja som si myslel, že tá najstaršia je najmladšia. 00:04:03.628 --> 00:04:05.957 Takže toto je "zlepenie". NOTE Paragraph 00:04:05.965 --> 00:04:09.475 (CG) Deti vo veku od 0 do 10, alebo od 5 do 15 00:04:09.477 --> 00:04:11.519 toho zo svojim ockom zažijú veľa? NOTE Paragraph 00:04:12.094 --> 00:04:15.954 (MR) Hm takto, je to... no, už som sa neodvážil pozerať si fotky, 00:04:16.778 --> 00:04:19.796 lebo je to akoby som si prezeral album ľudí, ktorých 00:04:21.743 --> 00:04:23.242 poznám z videnia alebo tak. 00:04:23.242 --> 00:04:24.956 Sú to chvíle, ktoré som nezažil, 00:04:24.956 --> 00:04:27.099 nevynorili sa mi z jednej fotky. 00:04:27.564 --> 00:04:30.393 A ďalej to už bola hrôza. 00:04:30.393 --> 00:04:32.903 Dobre, že moje dievčatá robili čo mohli, 00:04:32.903 --> 00:04:35.249 a vlastne všetci vôkol mňa odviedli skvelú prácu. 00:04:35.851 --> 00:04:39.290 Pokúšali sa mi všetko vysvetliť: "Aha, pozri, tu je ten a ten dátum..." NOTE Paragraph 00:04:39.705 --> 00:04:42.249 (CG) A snažili sa vrátiť vám znovu pamäť. NOTE Paragraph 00:04:42.249 --> 00:04:46.232 (MR) Presne. Ibaže... no, nič také sa nestalo. 00:04:46.648 --> 00:04:49.251 Takže OK, budem radšej klamať a vy uveríte. 00:04:49.251 --> 00:04:51.828 Prišiel deň, kedy ma mali prepustiť z nemocnice. 00:04:52.321 --> 00:04:54.719 Nebolo to veľmi príjemné. 00:04:55.608 --> 00:04:57.148 V nemocnici som si raz zapol TV, 00:04:57.148 --> 00:05:00.184 ako prvé som si pozrel Veľkú cenu Formuly 1 a povedal som: 00:05:00.184 --> 00:05:01.914 "Do kelu! Tie autá sa tak zmenili." 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:05.281 Čo ma asi tak čaká vonku? 00:05:05.751 --> 00:05:09.344 Nemocnicu som totiž vnímal ako nejaký druh ochrany. 00:05:09.624 --> 00:05:11.768 Bál som sa odísť. Keď som prišiel domov, 00:05:11.768 --> 00:05:14.411 všimol som si, že sa naozaj veľa vecí zmenilo, 00:05:14.411 --> 00:05:15.681 steny však ostali rovnaké. 00:05:15.681 --> 00:05:20.742 Bolo to... dodalo mi to trocha istoty. 00:05:21.096 --> 00:05:24.016 No stále som videl tie zmeny a všetko. 00:05:24.512 --> 00:05:26.292 Ľudí tiež. 00:05:26.705 --> 00:05:29.381 Začal som byť trocha paranoidný, 00:05:30.033 --> 00:05:32.411 videl som, ako sa všetci dívajú... 00:05:32.664 --> 00:05:35.949 Raz, keď sme šli s manželkou na skládku, povedal som jej: 00:05:36.254 --> 00:05:37.193 "Všetci na mňa pozerajú" 00:05:37.193 --> 00:05:39.678 Nakoniec som si do zošita písal "videl si toho a toho" 00:05:40.271 --> 00:05:41.839 nevedel som však, kto to je. NOTE Paragraph 00:05:42.233 --> 00:05:43.438 (CG) A oni to vedeli? NOTE Paragraph 00:05:43.651 --> 00:05:45.568 (MR) Samozrejme. Časom mi ľudia vraveli: 00:05:45.568 --> 00:05:49.318 "Vlastne sme sa báli osloviť ťa, lebo... no, nevedeli sme čo povedať, a ..." NOTE Paragraph 00:05:51.036 --> 00:05:53.040 (CG) Tých ľudí to trocha znepokojovalo. 00:05:53.040 --> 00:05:54.496 Je to mätúce, tým myslím... 00:05:55.006 --> 00:05:57.746 poznali vás počas tých 10 rokov, na ktoré si nepomínate. 00:05:57.748 --> 00:05:59.789 Vy ste im nemohli povedať: 00:05:59.789 --> 00:06:03.594 "No jasné, pamätáš, ako sme šli," ja neviem, "spolu tam a tam?" 00:06:03.594 --> 00:06:06.461 Bolo tam to puto, ktoré sa niekam stratilo? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:06.960 --> 00:06:12.382 (MR) No, áno, pretože som sa znovu "zoznámil" so starými priateľmi... NOTE Paragraph 00:06:13.724 --> 00:06:14.735 (CG) Z tých 10 rokov. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:14.735 --> 00:06:16.558 (MR)...áno, no nespomínam si na nich. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:17.289 --> 00:06:18.850 (CG) Pre vás to boli cudzinci? NOTE Paragraph 00:06:18.850 --> 00:06:20.600 (MR) Áno, pýtal som sa: ty si kto? 00:06:21.517 --> 00:06:23.256 Ešte stále mám odložené zošity, 00:06:23.256 --> 00:06:25.379 zaplnil som nimi krabice od banánov, 00:06:25.379 --> 00:06:28.060 mám ich niekoľko stoviek, ani neviem presne. 00:06:28.528 --> 00:06:31.160 Aby som mohol komunikovať, všetko som do nich zapisoval. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:32.385 --> 00:06:33.821 (CG) Lebo ste nemohli hovoriť. 00:06:33.821 --> 00:06:35.279 Teraz sa vám však vrátila reč. NOTE Paragraph 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:36.566 (MR) Ako vidíte, áno. 00:06:37.256 --> 00:06:40.340 Nebolo ľahké s tým žiť, myslím tým napríklad v situáciách, 00:06:40.340 --> 00:06:43.183 keď som bol medzi ľuďmi, ja neviem, 00:06:43.183 --> 00:06:45.337 pri stole v reštaurácii alebo tak 00:06:45.337 --> 00:06:47.122 a tiež som sa chcel s nimi rozprávať. 00:06:48.866 --> 00:06:51.137 Chcel som hovoriť, no nedostal som sa k slovu. 00:06:52.248 --> 00:06:53.669 Viete, vždy máte plné ruky, 00:06:53.669 --> 00:06:55.995 držíte príbor alebo pohár, všeličo... 00:06:55.995 --> 00:06:57.534 A napísať niečo na papier 00:06:57.966 --> 00:06:59.676 trvá oveľa dlhšie než niečo povedať. 00:07:01.066 --> 00:07:03.147 Poviem vám jednu z mojich historiek. 00:07:03.147 --> 00:07:04.818 Raz, keď sme jedli kurča, 00:07:04.818 --> 00:07:07.653 spomenul som si na jeden starý film "Bohom zabudnuté deti". 00:07:07.979 --> 00:07:10.970 A vtedy som si povedal: "Veď hluchí majú predsa posunkovú reč!" 00:07:10.970 --> 00:07:13.293 a uvedomil som si, že by som sa ju mal naučiť. 00:07:13.293 --> 00:07:19.767 Ten nápad bol pre mňa ako... Zázrak. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:20.224 --> 00:07:22.286 (CG) Skrátka, aby ste sa mohli zapájať. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:22.866 --> 00:07:24.803 (MR) Áno, no vlastne, bolo to... 00:07:24.803 --> 00:07:27.611 popravde, posunkovú reč som sa naučil pomerne rýchlo. 00:07:27.910 --> 00:07:33.043 Do problematiky hluchoty som sa úplne "zažral", je to veľmi zaujímavá oblasť. 00:07:33.043 --> 00:07:38.814 Aj keď... Vlastne som nemohol komunikovať s počujúcimi ľuďmi. 00:07:38.814 --> 00:07:41.181 Tak som trocha zmenil prostredie, 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:44.541 pretože bolo pre mňa ľahšie stretávať sa s nepočujúcimi, 00:07:44.541 --> 00:07:46.169 rozprávali sme sa posunkovou rečou. 00:07:46.169 --> 00:07:49.301 Už som nepotreboval ruksak so zošitom a perom, či iné zbytočnosti. 00:07:49.603 --> 00:07:50.961 Znamenalo to pre mňa komfort NOTE Paragraph 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:54.084 (CG) Oni nechceli aby ste sa vrátili k predošlému životu? NOTE Paragraph 00:07:54.624 --> 00:07:56.725 (MR) Nie, oni... (CG) Boli to noví priatelia. NOTE Paragraph 00:07:56.725 --> 00:08:00.406 (MR) Povzbudili ma... to, čo robili, bolo fantastické, 00:08:01.209 --> 00:08:06.319 oni ma vlastne podporovali spoznať ich jazyk, ich kultúru. 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:08.471 Niekedy mi naozaj venovali všetku pozornosť, 00:08:09.141 --> 00:08:11.726 lebo taký prípad ako som bol ja, takpovediac nezažili. 00:08:13.231 --> 00:08:16.328 Skutočne ma s otvorenou náručou prijali medzi seba. 00:08:17.269 --> 00:08:22.022 Áno, povedal by som, že to bol takmer najlepší, 00:08:22.022 --> 00:08:25.186 najlepší liek na to, čo sa mi prihodilo. 00:08:25.186 --> 00:08:27.419 Mal som sa totiž stále čo učiť, 00:08:27.419 --> 00:08:32.896 zamestnalo mi to myseľ, už som toľko nepremýšľal. NOTE Paragraph 00:08:32.896 --> 00:08:38.576 (melódia - opakujú sa 2 tóny) NOTE Paragraph 00:08:38.576 --> 00:08:40.351 (MR) Keď sa pozriete na stenu, tamto... NOTE Paragraph 00:08:40.351 --> 00:08:42.081 (CG) Je tam niečo pripnuté, fotky? 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