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Here right now to hear Francis Chan and we
are extremely blessed that in his busy

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schedule he would take the time to be with
us.

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He's leaving here immediately. His plans 
have changed. Where he was flying home to

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San Francisco, he'll be flying instead to 
New York City to be interviewed tomorrow

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by Mike Huckabee, and then he flies home 
to preach Sunday morning.

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So, my friend, would you come up and we'll
pray, and let you have this place.

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Father in Heaven, you see this man and he 
is a shell until you set right inside of

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him. You know his heart desires to say 
bigger things than he is and the size of

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things that you are. And God, not only
does he want to say them but we want to

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hear them, and you're going to have to 
give all of us help to get that done.

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And we can't wait to see you do it as we
thank you in Jesus' name. Amen.

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Oh, man. Amen.

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That is everything I'm praying for right 
now. Everything, Terry.

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I believe that was an anointed prayer.


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I believe what Dusty just shared came from
God. I don't want to interrupt that.

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I want to move along and say this is Part
3 to what you just heard.

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I don't want to take us in a different 
direction because I believe God spoke to

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me through you, Dusty, through Randy. I'm
sitting there going "Lord, this is

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something bigger than what I expected".
I really believe exactly what Terry was

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just praying, that God wants to do bigger
things than just the message I have.

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You know, and I believe sovereignly, I 
left my notes over there.

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You know, I just realised, I got so into 
what you were saying and what the spirit

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was doing that I'm just going, "You know
there's something going on here and I want

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to have the courage to say what I need to 
say, and what I believe the Lord has laid

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on my heart". When you talk about, man, 
that illustration about the swimming pool,

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and jumping into the deep end. I believe 
that's what God is calling me to do.

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Again, by the way, amazing illustration,
I am going to steal it.

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Pretend I made it up, you know. No,
because I was that same kid, you know.

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I wanted to stay in the shallow end. I
wanted to be where I know I could put

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my feet down. I didn't want to, you know,
yeah, I wouldn't go. I was the same kid.

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I would jump off the diving board, and 
yet I see in my relationship with God the

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times I did. The times I just dove off the
deep end because I knew what the Word of

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God promised. Despite what anyone else
said, I knew what this book said.

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And it was on biblical convictions, not on
tradition, not just on stuff that I was

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taught. When I was alone with the Word of 
God and I would see something, there I go,

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"No, God is going to come through for me, 
I can seek the things of God first. I can

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seek the Kingdom first, and everything 
else will be taken care of. He promises me

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that, so if I don't take a risk on that, 
how do I even know there's a resurrection?

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You know, I've got to trust every bit of
God's word". In the times, I've taken

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those leaps off the diving board, off 
the high dive in the deep end because of a

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biblical conviction. Those, I'm not
talking about risk just to risk.

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I'm talking about risk because you're so
convicted by the Word of God.

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You know, a lot of times in Church, we 
almost like convicting messages, and

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walking away feeling convicted. I'm here 
to tell tell you that is not success.

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I used to, when I first started preaching,
man, I would just lay it out. I believe

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I still do, but I would just teach the
Word of God and if people got angry and

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walked away, you know, sad. I would be 
like, "Yeah! Showed you!" You know, I had

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people walking out of the sermon as I was
speaking, and there was a sense of pride.

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You know, and later on I realised, man, a
lot of them were not offended by God's

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Word, they were offended by me and my 
lack of love and the presentation.

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And I just...

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there's so many thoughts running
through my head right now, again, just so much I

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want to say in this brief time, but I...

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The point I was getting at is, I used to 
think that maybe the goal of preaching

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was just saying it and letting people 
walk away sad,

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and it's only the last few years that God
has shown me that

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the goal is not for everyone to walk away 
crying.

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I mean, where do you see in scripture
Jesus teaching and the people

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walking away sad and that being 
success?

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Now, we see that, like in the rich, young 
ruler, right?

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Jesus speaks to the rich, young ruler,
you know, who has this

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self-righteousness and you know, "I've 
done all these good things," you know,

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"I want to go to heaven," you know, on and
on and on, but it says

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when Jesus says, "Sell all your
possessions and give it to the poor,"

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it says in, I'm sorry I can't read,
verse, chapter 18 of Luke

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verse 23, it says, "When he heard these
things, he became very sad,

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for he was extremely rich. Jesus, seeing
that he had become sad, said

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'How difficult it is for those who have
wealth to enter the kingdom of God.

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It's easier for a camel to go through the
eye of a needle, than for a rich person

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to enter the kingdom of God.'

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Those who heard it said, 'Then who can be 
saved?' but he says 'What's impossible

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with men, is possible with God."

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So the rich, young ruler walked away
sad, right? Jesus gave

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him a message. It was too much for him to
take in. He's like, "I don't know if I

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want to jump in the deep end. I don't 
know, I've got a lot of stuff. I kind of

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want to play it safe, just in case you
don't come through. I want to make

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sure I can keep all these riches
and everything else.

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I want to play it safe," and he walks away
sad because he couldn't walk away

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from the stuff, and Jesus doesn't go,
"Yeah! Look at him. I did it. I made him

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sad!" No, he just looks at him, and I
believe it was a tone of,

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"(sigh) It's so hard, it's so hard for
the rich to enter the kingdom of

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heaven! It's so hard for guys like that.

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It would be easier for me to cram that
camel over there through the eye

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of this needle than for that guy
to enter the kingdom of heaven."

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It was a sad moment, but what I love
is you know, the disciples are like,

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"Then how can anyone get saved?"

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He goes, "Hey, it's possible with God.

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You know, with men it's not possible, but
with God it is,"

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and what's great is that in the very
next chapter,

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in Luke chapter 19, it says he entered
Jericho, and was passing through

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and there was a man named Zacchaeus.
He was a chief tax collector and was rich.

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So in the very next chapter, you have this
rich man, and you know the story.

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He's in the tree, sees Jesus. Jesus says,
"Come on, I want to go to your house.

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I want to eat at your house."

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He jumps out of that tree, gets so
excited, throws this party.

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Man, I've got Jesus here. He makes
this grand announcement in front of

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everyone. He goes, "Look, everything
I have , I'm going to give half of it,

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I'm just going to give it away to the
poor right now.

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And with the other half, I have
ripped off, I have stolen from a lot

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of you. I'll give you four times
whatever I stole from you."

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And what does Jesus say?

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"Today, salvation has come to this house."

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Why, there was a repentance right there.
See, that was the joy.

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That's what God wants, is this
repentance that leads to life, right?

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Godly sorrow, 2 Corinthians. You know,
godly sorrow leads to repentance,

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but there's a worldly sorrow that
leads to death.

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There's a godly sorrow, that leads to
repentance, which leads to life,

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not walking away sad. We walk away sad
when we're not willing to change.

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We walk away like Zacchaeus when we
realize the truth and we actually do

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something.

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We actually repent. We don't sit week
after week, year after year,

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being hearers of the Word and not
doers of it, but we hear the Word

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of God, and like Dusty was saying,
we look at those dreams,

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we look at those biblical convictions
and go, "I'm going to change.

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I'm going to do it," and we become like
Zacchaeus, or you can chose today

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to walk away sad, but I'm just telling
you, look, that is not the goal

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and we don't want to be hearers of
the Word and not doers.

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I mean, for our own good.

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I believe that Satan is thrilled with a
lot of our church services.

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I believe the enemy loves it, because
Satan is the great deceiver,

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and James says, "When you hear the Word 
and you don't do it, you are deceiving

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yourself."

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And so Satan's sitting back going,
"Look at these guys! They gather on

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Sunday morning to hear a message
they're not going to apply.

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They're deceiving themselves. My job
is done.

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Man, I hope this country is filled
with church. I hope they fill them all

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up and preach the Word of God but
no one does it."

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That would be Satan's dream, because
they could just deceive themselves, and

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he doesn't even have to do anything.

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Our God is a God of repentance, of 
actual change, of turning.

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It's not hearing the Word of God
and not do anything about it.

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Man, Isaiah 6, you know, one of the
passages that changed my life,

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Isaiah 6, that you both preach from, was
one of the passages that changed my life

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because it got me thinking about, wow,
here's this prophet of God, a prophet

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of God, and yet the moment he saw
God, he just says, "I am dead.

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Woe is me, woe is me." Those words,
'woe is me' in the Hebrew is