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I always say to my wife, these systems are

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like mistresses...

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they attract you in different ways!

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Leave your reactor on its own, on a separate table,

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so it forces you to keep a certain distance.

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Right...good point! This is the way you have to work,

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to think of yourself.

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This is the way you have to work, to think of yourself.

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And then, secondly, all your equipment around,

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most probably, your ring pump..the pumps have a rubber

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ring in them, for sealing, yeah? Very soon, you are going to lose your

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rings, because, the field radiation will change the composition of

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the ring. ...I see, yes... And then you find out

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the life of your pump reduces by a factor of...God knows how much!

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Instead of working for a year, it works for a few weeks. I've lost

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enough pumps and systems, that I learned where making my mistakes are.

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You have to always work your reactor remote, with pipes.

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If you come into my lab, you see how I work.

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I make sure I'm always away

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from the reactor. Unless, it's shut down, then I go close.

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Do you use a video camera or some sort of deal like that?

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Sometimes, sometimes. You see, this

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is like an addiction...this is like you inject yourself with heroin and you go hide...

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and you don't know what you are doing. The science and the knowledge

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is so absorbing, that you forget the condition. You don't see the cliff,

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you just jump off without your knowing, yeah? Yeah. You have

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to make sure the cliff is not high enough to kill you, when you jump off it.

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So, you have to put these systems,

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all your reactors, or anything you test, the smallest you test,

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always make an isolation table...what I call an isolation table.

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Yeah? That way you create,

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you enforce, physical separation to protect your own health.

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I learned that out of Tehran, because in Tehran, my reactors were too intense,

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intensity is the problem. And then, when I got hit,

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it was what was on my level, which was my liver and my pancreas.

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Yeah? So you have to...

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you have to walk away from this closed club close monitoring

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If you can make a table and increase your pipe...

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this pipe is too short. Soon you are going to find your pump will pack out,

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because the energy released into the

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C-H part of your seals, they become like jelly.

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When you pick it out, you will see it, it becomes...it is not elastic,

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it's not like rubber-hard, it becomes elastic like chewing gum.

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A lot of research about this was done by the

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Iranian head of the space university...

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He's a very...he's done this test for hs PHD paper.

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So we looked up his research in Tehran,

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and you see these rapid condition releases

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will affect your seals. Then you see your pump

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doesn't work..you can't reach the vacuum you like to get.

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As you saw the glow, you see part of the physicality of

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the glow. The rest of it is going into the pump.

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Right. So, you try to...That was the first thing

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we said when we saw that, is," This doesn't seem like a good thing!"

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No, it isn't a good thing, but you can learn a lot of things from it.

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Use your pressure cooker, use the pressure cooker

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for example, to feed the gases, to feed the gas out...

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Put a valve on either side, when you reach a high vacuum, you close your pump,

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and you keep a vacuum there, and you always, always,

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vacuum in a different chamber, and release

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in a different chamber. You have to.

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Like a buffer, basically. It's a buffer, yes.

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So, you separate your chambers...your vacuum chamber should never

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be connected with the release chamber.

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The release chamber always, one hundred percent,

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releases transition level magnetic fields. Yeah?

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High-energy fields. Because it's very much...

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...how can I explain it? You know,

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it's like, you throw a jet of water in the air,

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and you try to catch it. You can't catch all the water which is in the air,

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you catch some of it, yeah?

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When the plasma closes, you catch some of it. The rest of the water which is

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flying out, it becomes available into your system,

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so you don't want it to go back into your pump, to damage your pump.

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You always vacuum into a separate chamber,

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and you always allow the chamber outside

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to be at least 10 or 15 minutes, before you open it into the atmosphere.

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Because it takes about that much for the transition energy

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to be absorbed by the structure of your container.

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These are little, little safety things you do. You protect your system, you protect yourself,

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and you have a very smooth running system. You enjoy playing with it,

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and then you see different structures. And if you can buy...

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like the pressure cooker you have is fantastic, because

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if you use this as an outlet chamber,

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not the inlet chamber, every now and then open it up and have a look

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at what's inside it. You find new materials, you find new things,

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Cool! It is very interesting, because I do that

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quite often myself. ...Hopefully we won't find something more intelligent

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than we are in there...that's what we are worried about!! (haha)

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I must say, in my lab, they are interesting... I'm creating new life.

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In our biological side, I'm creating new life in the lab.

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Because I have understood the structure of

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the creation of the universe, so I have created the conditions

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where life has started on Earth. And you see it, you see the protein,

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protein, initial proteins, are growing. And one

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of my sons was going through my lab, and he says, "What animal is in there now?" (haha)

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This is such the case. ...Well, that's right.

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That's been a real eye-opener for me, too. I mean, I've gone through

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forty years of science, and thinking, and so,

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in the last decades, but I've never heard anyone claiming

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to know how to create life, let alone creating life. But you

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have laid it out, in a very logical, more or less easy to understand

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method, and way. I thank you

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very much for enlightening me in that regard.

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As for many things I have learned in the last few years from your writings and teachings

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and so on...so once again, thanks very much!

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You are welcome. What is interesting, try to understand

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the condition, which the material or effect

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is created. Then you find, you don't need to fight it,

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it's very easy to do to replicate it.

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Understand the interaction of fields,

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then you understand it's very easy how to replicate it. If you work

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on a matter level, you walk a hard path up. ...Right,

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that's the way I'm understanding it now, is ...you have to

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think in different categories with this stuff. No you don't have to,

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you have to think the way the universe works...the rest is easy! The correct way.

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I don't think God spent that much time to create things, he just puts things into place and it happens!

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It's nearly eight o'clock,

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and I've been on-line nearly two hours, I have a heavy day

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ahead of me. You're welcome. Mr Ludmil?

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Yes, thank-you very much. What I would like to do, if you want to do,

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we'll do the next session in your lab. Ok, sure, yeah,

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we can do that. Yeah? And then next month we come back to Rick,

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and see how far he has gone ad we work through together in different ways,

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Yes, you gave us some nice clues, Mr Keshe, thank-you very much! Yeah, thank-you.

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You are welcome. If you can put this on the net, that people can learn,

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from it, that would be fantastic. That's right, I wanted to ask you too, if we had full

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permission to use any of this?

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Yes. This is how we start teaching, we teach the world together at the same time.

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And there is nothing that we've said that you want to hold back on or anything, it's all...

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public consumption?

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No please, let them copy it. That's the whole purpose. The more they copy, the safer we we are!

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Haha, yes, that's right. The whole copyright system is sick, yes.

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So, send me the link, I'll put it on the forum as well. I'll probably make several

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movies out of this as well, for my Youtube channel, so yup.

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Nobody is wrong, that is the beauty with this technology. It doesn't mean you

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are doing anything wrong,.. you are doing it your way, and your way is as more and good as mine.

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But, we have to understand each others work, and how we benefit

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from from each others work. So, on that morning of

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two or three hours we spend, I evaluate things, or what we learn and

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what we know from each other, and I'm sure we will have a scientist from Poland...

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He is very advanced in his reactor. He is joining me very soon

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in the Keshe Foundation Lab, and to work with us,

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because he is very advanced in development,

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so most probably you will meet him in the presentation in the lab.

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I'm sure soon, you'll

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have NASA scientists in our labs as well. They will come on board.

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Right on, great! I need to do some

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major changes to what I did, to what we spoke of..

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No, no...we learn from you, the way you've done it! ...Argh!

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I will do some other stuff, I will get rid of

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this big chamber...You've got two weeks! Yeah, yeah, ...

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We are always changing things...it's never the same day twice.

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You must have the same problem, too, Mr. Keshe,

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where you would like to have the same reactor twice, but you

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like to try a new experiment each time?

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I always say to my wife, these systems are like mistresses...

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they attract you in different ways!

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(Hahaha!)

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But these are safe, they don't cause you headaches, they just give you illness...

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but, you spend all your time thinking about them,

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and working with them, and then you forget you have a wife. Yes, yes...and a life!

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And my wife says, "At least I know, in there there is nobody else

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but you and your machine. I'm safe."

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We play with it. We are all scientists. We do the way

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we like to participate and feed back.

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So, in a couple of weeks, we make a date, and we do it in Ludmil's Lab. Ok, sure, yes,

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we can do that. Thanks very much for all of your time!

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Thank-you very, very much! Have a great day! Thank-you!

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Thank-you Mr Keshe. You are welcome. Bye Desire.

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Oh, no, no, not bye with me. I have to talk with you..

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hahaha! ...I'll call you back on the

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separate line. Yes, ok, bye.

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Bye, thank-you very much again.

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Bye LadyDragon, bye to your bird, too!

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Wow!!