1 00:00:00,980 --> 00:00:03,452 It's easy to forget that last night, 2 00:00:04,203 --> 00:00:07,682 one billion people went to sleep without access to electricity. 3 00:00:08,094 --> 00:00:09,424 One billion people. 4 00:00:10,298 --> 00:00:15,037 Two and a half billion people did not have access to clean cooking fuels 5 00:00:15,553 --> 00:00:16,885 or clean heating fuels. 6 00:00:18,234 --> 00:00:20,596 Those are the problems in the developing world. 7 00:00:20,982 --> 00:00:23,618 And it's easy for us not to be empathetic 8 00:00:23,642 --> 00:00:25,955 with those people who seem so distanced from us. 9 00:00:26,331 --> 00:00:29,106 But even in our own world, the developed world, 10 00:00:29,725 --> 00:00:32,630 we see the tension of stagnant economies 11 00:00:33,234 --> 00:00:35,849 impacting the lives of people around us. 12 00:00:36,241 --> 00:00:39,345 We see it in whole pieces of the economy, 13 00:00:39,813 --> 00:00:42,912 where the people involved have lost hope about the future 14 00:00:43,220 --> 00:00:44,942 and despair about the present. 15 00:00:45,457 --> 00:00:47,005 We see that in the Brexit vote. 16 00:00:47,546 --> 00:00:50,985 We see that in the Sanders/Trump campaigns in my own country. 17 00:00:51,667 --> 00:00:56,195 But even in countries as recently turning the corner 18 00:00:56,619 --> 00:00:58,439 towards being in the developed world, 19 00:00:58,463 --> 00:00:59,703 in China, 20 00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:02,303 we see the difficulty that President Xi has 21 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:07,666 as he begins to un-employ so many people in his coal and mining industries 22 00:01:08,214 --> 00:01:10,145 who see no future for themselves. 23 00:01:11,183 --> 00:01:14,186 As we as a society figure out how to manage 24 00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:16,163 the problems of the developed world 25 00:01:16,187 --> 00:01:18,235 and the problems of the developing world, 26 00:01:18,259 --> 00:01:21,107 we have to look at how we move forward 27 00:01:21,131 --> 00:01:24,841 and manage the environmental impact of those decisions. 28 00:01:25,868 --> 00:01:28,967 We've been working on this problem for 25 years, since Rio, 29 00:01:28,991 --> 00:01:30,674 the Kyoto Protocols. 30 00:01:31,223 --> 00:01:33,797 Our most recent move is the Paris treaty, 31 00:01:34,514 --> 00:01:37,088 and the resulting climate agreements 32 00:01:37,112 --> 00:01:40,021 that are being ratified by nations around the world. 33 00:01:40,045 --> 00:01:42,232 I think we can be very hopeful 34 00:01:42,256 --> 00:01:45,394 that those agreements, which are bottom-up agreements, 35 00:01:45,418 --> 00:01:48,279 where nations have said what they think they can do, 36 00:01:48,303 --> 00:01:52,381 are genuine and forthcoming for the vast majority of the parties. 37 00:01:52,977 --> 00:01:54,545 The unfortunate thing 38 00:01:55,205 --> 00:01:58,732 is that now, as we look at the independent analyses 39 00:01:58,756 --> 00:02:01,955 of what those climate treaties are liable to yield, 40 00:02:03,083 --> 00:02:05,992 the magnitude of the problem before us becomes clear. 41 00:02:06,965 --> 00:02:11,038 This is the United States Energy Information Agency's assessment 42 00:02:11,625 --> 00:02:16,313 of what will happen if the countries implement the climate commitments 43 00:02:16,337 --> 00:02:18,373 that they've made in Paris 44 00:02:18,397 --> 00:02:20,348 between now and 2040. 45 00:02:21,221 --> 00:02:25,441 It shows basically CO2 emissions around the world 46 00:02:25,465 --> 00:02:27,146 over the next 30 years. 47 00:02:28,236 --> 00:02:31,752 There are three things that you need to look at and appreciate. 48 00:02:32,177 --> 00:02:36,348 One, CO2 emissions are expected to continue to grow 49 00:02:36,372 --> 00:02:37,831 for the next 30 years. 50 00:02:39,265 --> 00:02:41,531 In order to control climate, 51 00:02:42,054 --> 00:02:45,040 CO2 emissions have to literally go to zero 52 00:02:45,564 --> 00:02:49,718 because it's the cumulative emissions that drive heating on the planet. 53 00:02:50,445 --> 00:02:54,560 This should tell you that we are losing the race to fossil fuels. 54 00:02:55,567 --> 00:02:57,430 The second thing you should notice 55 00:02:57,454 --> 00:03:01,747 is that the bulk of the growth comes from the developing countries, 56 00:03:01,771 --> 00:03:04,836 from China, from India, from the rest of the world, 57 00:03:04,860 --> 00:03:08,099 which includes South Africa and Indonesia and Brazil, 58 00:03:09,024 --> 00:03:11,853 as most of these countries move their people 59 00:03:12,353 --> 00:03:15,264 into the lower range of lifestyles 60 00:03:15,288 --> 00:03:19,054 that we literally take for granted in the developed world. 61 00:03:20,495 --> 00:03:22,878 The final thing that you should notice 62 00:03:22,902 --> 00:03:24,561 is that each year, 63 00:03:25,394 --> 00:03:32,354 about 10 gigatons of carbon are getting added to the planet's atmosphere, 64 00:03:32,994 --> 00:03:35,626 and then diffusing into the ocean and into the land. 65 00:03:36,011 --> 00:03:41,321 That's on top of the 550 gigatons that are in place today. 66 00:03:42,062 --> 00:03:43,896 At the end of 30 years, 67 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,473 we will have put 850 gigatons of carbon into the air, 68 00:03:49,171 --> 00:03:51,422 and that probably goes a long way 69 00:03:51,446 --> 00:03:57,607 towards locking in a 2-4 degree C increase in global mean surface temperatures, 70 00:03:58,140 --> 00:04:00,826 locking in ocean acidification 71 00:04:01,227 --> 00:04:03,204 and locking in sea level rise. 72 00:04:04,379 --> 00:04:07,205 Now, this is a projection made by men 73 00:04:08,197 --> 00:04:10,125 by the actions of society, 74 00:04:10,863 --> 00:04:13,339 and it's ours to change, not to accept. 75 00:04:13,912 --> 00:04:17,790 But the magnitude of the problem is something we need to appreciate. 76 00:04:18,648 --> 00:04:21,091 Different nations make different energy choices. 77 00:04:21,115 --> 00:04:23,442 It's a function of their natural resources. 78 00:04:23,466 --> 00:04:25,475 It's a function of their climate. 79 00:04:25,499 --> 00:04:29,981 It's a function of the development path that they've followed as a society. 80 00:04:30,664 --> 00:04:34,167 It's a function of where on the surface of the planet they are. 81 00:04:34,191 --> 00:04:36,691 Are they where it's dark a lot of the time, 82 00:04:36,715 --> 00:04:38,576 or are they at the mid-latitudes? 83 00:04:38,989 --> 00:04:42,708 Many, many, many things go into the choices of countries, 84 00:04:43,185 --> 00:04:45,362 and they each make a different choice. 85 00:04:46,878 --> 00:04:50,040 The overwhelming thing that we need to appreciate 86 00:04:50,064 --> 00:04:51,981 is the choice that China has made. 87 00:04:52,695 --> 00:04:55,289 China has made the choice, 88 00:04:55,313 --> 00:04:57,818 and will make the choice, to run on coal. 89 00:04:58,358 --> 00:05:00,377 The United States has an alternative. 90 00:05:00,401 --> 00:05:02,158 It can run on natural gas 91 00:05:02,182 --> 00:05:06,007 as a result of the inventions of fracking and shale gas, 92 00:05:06,031 --> 00:05:07,502 which we have here. 93 00:05:07,526 --> 00:05:09,091 They provide an alternative. 94 00:05:10,662 --> 00:05:13,373 The OECD Europe has a choice. 95 00:05:13,881 --> 00:05:16,950 It has renewables that it can afford to deploy in Germany 96 00:05:16,974 --> 00:05:19,591 because it's rich enough to afford to do it. 97 00:05:19,615 --> 00:05:25,103 The French and the British show interest in nuclear power. 98 00:05:25,702 --> 00:05:30,307 Eastern Europe, still very heavily committed to natural gas and to coal, 99 00:05:30,331 --> 00:05:33,059 and with natural gas that comes from Russia, 100 00:05:33,083 --> 00:05:34,853 with all of its entanglements. 101 00:05:35,558 --> 00:05:38,015 China has many fewer choices 102 00:05:38,039 --> 00:05:40,289 and a much harder row to hoe. 103 00:05:41,557 --> 00:05:44,589 If you look at China, and you ask yourself 104 00:05:44,613 --> 00:05:46,817 why has coal been important to it, 105 00:05:46,841 --> 00:05:49,053 you have to remember what China's done. 106 00:05:49,534 --> 00:05:52,841 China brought people to power, not power to people. 107 00:05:53,380 --> 00:05:55,830 It didn't do rural electrification. 108 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:57,601 It urbanized. 109 00:05:57,954 --> 00:06:02,158 It urbanized by taking low-cost labor and low-cost energy, 110 00:06:02,182 --> 00:06:04,099 creating export industries 111 00:06:04,123 --> 00:06:06,630 that could fund a tremendous amount of growth. 112 00:06:07,535 --> 00:06:09,739 If we look at China's path, 113 00:06:09,763 --> 00:06:13,896 all of us know that prosperity in China has dramatically increased. 114 00:06:14,713 --> 00:06:19,259 In 1980, 80 percent of China's population 115 00:06:19,283 --> 00:06:21,717 lived below the extreme poverty level, 116 00:06:22,493 --> 00:06:26,253 below the level of having $1.90 per person per day. 117 00:06:26,658 --> 00:06:32,130 By the year 2000, only 20 percent of China's population 118 00:06:32,154 --> 00:06:34,688 lived below the extreme poverty level -- 119 00:06:35,498 --> 00:06:37,192 a remarkable feat, 120 00:06:37,977 --> 00:06:40,344 admittedly, with some costs in civil liberties 121 00:06:40,368 --> 00:06:43,324 that would be tough to accept in the Western world. 122 00:06:44,548 --> 00:06:47,455 But the impact of all that wealth 123 00:06:47,479 --> 00:06:50,992 allowed people to get massively better nutrition. 124 00:06:51,484 --> 00:06:54,199 It allowed water pipes to be placed. 125 00:06:54,223 --> 00:06:56,682 It allowed sewage pipes to be placed, 126 00:06:56,706 --> 00:06:59,678 dramatic decrease in diarrheal diseases, 127 00:07:00,590 --> 00:07:03,213 at the cost of some outdoor air pollution. 128 00:07:04,070 --> 00:07:06,350 But in 1980, and even today, 129 00:07:06,374 --> 00:07:10,381 the number one killer in China is indoor air pollution, 130 00:07:10,833 --> 00:07:15,602 because people do not have access to clean cooking and heating fuels. 131 00:07:16,066 --> 00:07:18,174 In fact, in 2040, 132 00:07:19,794 --> 00:07:24,569 it's still estimated that 200 million people in China 133 00:07:24,593 --> 00:07:28,144 will not have access to clean cooking fuels. 134 00:07:29,133 --> 00:07:31,489 They have a remarkable path to follow. 135 00:07:32,854 --> 00:07:37,602 India also needs to meet the needs of its own people, 136 00:07:37,626 --> 00:07:39,800 and it's going to do that by burning coal. 137 00:07:40,475 --> 00:07:45,953 When we look at the EIA's projections of coal burning in India, 138 00:07:46,591 --> 00:07:51,494 India will supply nearly four times as much of its energy from coal 139 00:07:51,518 --> 00:07:53,557 as it will from renewables. 140 00:07:54,962 --> 00:07:57,815 It's not because they don't know the alternatives; 141 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:01,584 it's because rich countries can do what they choose, 142 00:08:02,162 --> 00:08:04,309 poor countries do what they must. 143 00:08:06,198 --> 00:08:09,883 So what can we do to stop coal's emissions in time? 144 00:08:10,899 --> 00:08:15,511 What can we do that changes this forecast that's in front of us? 145 00:08:15,535 --> 00:08:19,602 Because it's a forecast that we can change if we have the will to do it. 146 00:08:21,094 --> 00:08:24,513 First of all, we have to think about the magnitude of the problem. 147 00:08:24,537 --> 00:08:26,581 Between now and 2040, 148 00:08:27,104 --> 00:08:32,847 800 to 1,600 new coal plants are going to be built around the world. 149 00:08:34,085 --> 00:08:38,694 This week, between one and three one-gigawatt coal plants 150 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:40,929 are being turned on around the world. 151 00:08:41,817 --> 00:08:45,867 That's happening regardless of what we want, 152 00:08:45,891 --> 00:08:48,399 because the people that rule their countries, 153 00:08:48,423 --> 00:08:50,793 assessing the interests of their citizens, 154 00:08:50,817 --> 00:08:54,232 have decided it's in the interest of their citizens to do that. 155 00:08:55,335 --> 00:08:59,302 And that's going to happen unless they have a better alternative. 156 00:08:59,726 --> 00:09:03,483 And every 100 of those plants will use up 157 00:09:03,507 --> 00:09:06,638 between one percent and three percent 158 00:09:06,662 --> 00:09:08,280 of the Earth's climate budget. 159 00:09:09,264 --> 00:09:12,755 So every day that you go home thinking that you should do something 160 00:09:12,779 --> 00:09:14,055 about global warming, 161 00:09:14,594 --> 00:09:16,526 at the end of that week, remember: 162 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:20,943 somebody fired up a coal plant that's going to run for 50 years 163 00:09:20,967 --> 00:09:24,043 and take away your ability to change it. 164 00:09:25,972 --> 00:09:29,566 What we've forgotten is something that Vinod Khosla used to talk about, 165 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:32,712 a man of Indian ethnicity but an American venture capitalist. 166 00:09:33,339 --> 00:09:36,164 And he said, back in the early 2000s, 167 00:09:36,188 --> 00:09:40,195 that if you needed to get China and India off of fossil fuels, 168 00:09:40,219 --> 00:09:43,815 you had to create a technology that passed the "Chindia test," 169 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,099 "Chindia" being the appending of the two words. 170 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:50,259 It had to be first of all viable, 171 00:09:50,283 --> 00:09:53,877 meaning that technically, they could implement it in their country, 172 00:09:53,901 --> 00:09:56,905 and that it would be accepted by the people in the country. 173 00:09:58,191 --> 00:10:04,764 Two, it had to be a technology that was scalable, 174 00:10:04,788 --> 00:10:07,806 that it could deliver the same benefits 175 00:10:07,830 --> 00:10:10,907 on the same timetable as fossil fuels, 176 00:10:11,387 --> 00:10:15,179 so that they can enjoy the kind of life, again, that we take for granted. 177 00:10:15,766 --> 00:10:18,275 And third, it had to be cost-effective 178 00:10:18,299 --> 00:10:20,985 without subsidy or without mandate. 179 00:10:21,432 --> 00:10:24,146 It had to stand on its own two feet; 180 00:10:24,170 --> 00:10:28,049 it could not be maintained for that many people 181 00:10:28,073 --> 00:10:30,529 if in fact, those countries had to go begging 182 00:10:31,009 --> 00:10:34,828 or had some foreign country say, "I won't trade with you," 183 00:10:35,328 --> 00:10:38,611 in order to get the technology shift to occur. 184 00:10:40,168 --> 00:10:41,854 If you look at the Chindia test, 185 00:10:41,878 --> 00:10:46,503 we simply have not come up with alternatives that meet that test. 186 00:10:46,984 --> 00:10:49,828 That's what the EIA forecast tells us. 187 00:10:50,765 --> 00:10:54,115 China's building 800 gigawatts of coal, 188 00:10:54,866 --> 00:10:57,050 400 gigawatts of hydro, 189 00:10:57,772 --> 00:11:00,144 about 200 gigawatts of nuclear, 190 00:11:00,501 --> 00:11:04,562 and on an energy-equivalent basis, adjusting for intermittency, 191 00:11:04,586 --> 00:11:06,877 about 100 gigawatts of renewables. 192 00:11:07,554 --> 00:11:09,462 800 gigawatts of coal. 193 00:11:09,805 --> 00:11:13,357 They're doing that, knowing the costs better than any other country, 194 00:11:13,381 --> 00:11:15,933 knowing the need better than any other country. 195 00:11:16,454 --> 00:11:19,081 But that's what they're aiming for in 2040 196 00:11:19,105 --> 00:11:21,429 unless we give them a better choice. 197 00:11:22,199 --> 00:11:23,639 To give them a better choice, 198 00:11:23,663 --> 00:11:26,224 it's going to have to meet the Chindia test. 199 00:11:26,248 --> 00:11:28,906 If you look at all the alternatives that are out there, 200 00:11:28,930 --> 00:11:31,430 there are really two that come near to meeting it. 201 00:11:31,865 --> 00:11:35,750 First is this area of new nuclear that I'll talk about in just a second. 202 00:11:36,107 --> 00:11:39,407 It's a new generation of nuclear plants that are on the drawing boards 203 00:11:39,431 --> 00:11:40,707 around the world, 204 00:11:40,731 --> 00:11:43,069 and the people who are developing these say 205 00:11:43,093 --> 00:11:46,634 we can get them in position to demo by 2025 206 00:11:47,252 --> 00:11:50,525 and to scale by 2030, if you will just let us. 207 00:11:51,246 --> 00:11:54,080 The second alternative that could be there in time 208 00:11:54,771 --> 00:11:58,476 is utility-scale solar backed up with natural gas, 209 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,224 which we can use today, 210 00:12:00,248 --> 00:12:03,182 versus the batteries which are still under development. 211 00:12:04,589 --> 00:12:06,924 So what's holding new nuclear back? 212 00:12:07,686 --> 00:12:11,361 Outdated regulations and yesterday's mindsets. 213 00:12:11,972 --> 00:12:16,167 We have not used our latest scientific thinking on radiological health 214 00:12:16,191 --> 00:12:18,879 to think how we communicate with the public 215 00:12:18,903 --> 00:12:21,281 and govern the testing of new nuclear reactors. 216 00:12:21,729 --> 00:12:25,926 We have new scientific knowledge that we need to use 217 00:12:25,950 --> 00:12:30,489 in order to improve the way we regulate nuclear industry. 218 00:12:30,872 --> 00:12:33,321 The second thing is we've got a mindset 219 00:12:33,345 --> 00:12:36,154 that it takes 25 years and 2 to 5 billion dollars 220 00:12:36,178 --> 00:12:37,913 to develop a nuclear power plant. 221 00:12:37,937 --> 00:12:41,866 That comes from the historical, military mindset 222 00:12:42,443 --> 00:12:44,851 of the places nuclear power came from. 223 00:12:45,356 --> 00:12:47,567 These new nuclear ventures are saying 224 00:12:47,591 --> 00:12:50,496 that they can deliver power for 5 cents a kilowatt hour; 225 00:12:51,212 --> 00:12:53,813 they can deliver it for 100 gigawatts a year; 226 00:12:54,543 --> 00:12:56,772 they can demo it by 2025; 227 00:12:57,168 --> 00:13:00,173 and they can deliver it in scale by 2030, 228 00:13:00,634 --> 00:13:02,833 if only we give them a chance. 229 00:13:04,064 --> 00:13:06,967 Right now, we're basically waiting for a miracle. 230 00:13:07,888 --> 00:13:09,472 What we need is a choice. 231 00:13:09,952 --> 00:13:12,756 If they can't make it safe, if they can't make it cheap, 232 00:13:12,780 --> 00:13:14,597 it should not be deployed. 233 00:13:14,621 --> 00:13:18,675 But what I want you to do is not carry an idea forward, 234 00:13:18,699 --> 00:13:20,350 but write your leaders, 235 00:13:20,374 --> 00:13:22,752 write the head of the NGOs you support, 236 00:13:22,776 --> 00:13:25,719 and tell them to give you the choice, 237 00:13:26,290 --> 00:13:27,441 not the past. 238 00:13:27,465 --> 00:13:28,649 Thank you very much. 239 00:13:28,673 --> 00:13:33,465 (Applause)