1 00:00:02,103 --> 00:00:04,678 Good morning. How are you? 2 00:00:04,702 --> 00:00:06,105 (Audience) Good. 3 00:00:06,129 --> 00:00:07,797 It's been great, hasn't it? 4 00:00:08,408 --> 00:00:10,729 I've been blown away by the whole thing. 5 00:00:10,753 --> 00:00:12,245 In fact, I'm leaving. 6 00:00:12,269 --> 00:00:16,175 (Laughter) 7 00:00:18,096 --> 00:00:21,663 There have been three themes running through the conference, 8 00:00:21,687 --> 00:00:23,973 which are relevant to what I want to talk about. 9 00:00:23,997 --> 00:00:28,467 One is the extraordinary evidence of human creativity 10 00:00:28,491 --> 00:00:30,904 in all of the presentations that we've had 11 00:00:30,928 --> 00:00:32,880 and in all of the people here; 12 00:00:32,904 --> 00:00:35,555 just the variety of it and the range of it. 13 00:00:36,158 --> 00:00:38,301 The second is that it's put us in a place 14 00:00:38,325 --> 00:00:40,822 where we have no idea what's going to happen 15 00:00:40,846 --> 00:00:42,237 in terms of the future. 16 00:00:42,261 --> 00:00:45,246 No idea how this may play out. 17 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:46,892 I have an interest in education. 18 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:51,328 Actually, what I find is, everybody has an interest in education. 19 00:00:51,352 --> 00:00:52,669 Don't you? 20 00:00:52,693 --> 00:00:54,095 I find this very interesting. 21 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:58,077 If you're at a dinner party, and you say you work in education -- 22 00:00:58,101 --> 00:01:00,846 actually, you're not often at dinner parties, frankly. 23 00:01:00,870 --> 00:01:04,666 (Laughter) 24 00:01:04,690 --> 00:01:07,118 If you work in education, you're not asked. 25 00:01:07,142 --> 00:01:10,321 (Laughter) 26 00:01:10,345 --> 00:01:14,304 And you're never asked back, curiously. That's strange to me. 27 00:01:14,328 --> 00:01:16,544 But if you are, and you say to somebody, 28 00:01:16,568 --> 00:01:18,346 you know, they say, "What do you do?" 29 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:20,058 and you say you work in education, 30 00:01:20,082 --> 00:01:22,131 you can see the blood run from their face. 31 00:01:22,155 --> 00:01:23,840 They're like, "Oh my God. Why me?" 32 00:01:23,864 --> 00:01:26,140 (Laughter) 33 00:01:26,164 --> 00:01:27,688 "My one night out all week." 34 00:01:27,712 --> 00:01:30,322 (Laughter) 35 00:01:30,346 --> 00:01:33,587 But if you ask about their education, they pin you to the wall, 36 00:01:33,611 --> 00:01:37,018 because it's one of those things that goes deep with people, am I right? 37 00:01:37,042 --> 00:01:40,535 Like religion and money and other things. 38 00:01:40,559 --> 00:01:45,001 So I have a big interest in education, and I think we all do. 39 00:01:45,025 --> 00:01:46,827 We have a huge vested interest in it, 40 00:01:46,851 --> 00:01:50,171 partly because it's education that's meant to take us into this future 41 00:01:50,195 --> 00:01:51,849 that we can't grasp. 42 00:01:51,873 --> 00:01:53,039 If you think of it, 43 00:01:53,063 --> 00:01:59,185 children starting school this year will be retiring in 2065. 44 00:02:00,272 --> 00:02:01,843 Nobody has a clue, 45 00:02:01,867 --> 00:02:05,426 despite all the expertise that's been on parade for the past four days, 46 00:02:05,450 --> 00:02:07,976 what the world will look like in five years' time. 47 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,294 And yet, we're meant to be educating them for it. 48 00:02:10,318 --> 00:02:12,868 So the unpredictability, I think, is extraordinary. 49 00:02:12,892 --> 00:02:16,320 And the third part of this is that we've all agreed, nonetheless, 50 00:02:16,344 --> 00:02:21,649 on the really extraordinary capacities that children have -- 51 00:02:21,673 --> 00:02:24,008 their capacities for innovation. 52 00:02:24,032 --> 00:02:26,821 I mean, Sirena last night was a marvel, wasn't she? 53 00:02:26,845 --> 00:02:28,515 Just seeing what she could do. 54 00:02:28,539 --> 00:02:34,088 And she's exceptional, but I think she's not, so to speak, 55 00:02:34,112 --> 00:02:37,017 exceptional in the whole of childhood. 56 00:02:37,041 --> 00:02:39,872 What you have there is a person of extraordinary dedication 57 00:02:39,896 --> 00:02:41,067 who found a talent. 58 00:02:41,091 --> 00:02:43,677 And my contention is, all kids have tremendous talents, 59 00:02:43,701 --> 00:02:46,095 and we squander them, pretty ruthlessly. 60 00:02:46,119 --> 00:02:47,976 So I want to talk about education, 61 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,872 and I want to talk about creativity. 62 00:02:49,896 --> 00:02:55,992 My contention is that creativity now is as important in education as literacy, 63 00:02:56,016 --> 00:02:58,803 and we should treat it with the same status. 64 00:02:58,827 --> 00:02:59,939 (Applause) 65 00:02:59,963 --> 00:03:01,152 Thank you. 66 00:03:01,176 --> 00:03:05,461 (Applause) 67 00:03:05,485 --> 00:03:07,771 That was it, by the way. Thank you very much. 68 00:03:07,795 --> 00:03:09,910 (Laughter) 69 00:03:09,934 --> 00:03:11,611 So, 15 minutes left. 70 00:03:11,635 --> 00:03:14,792 (Laughter) 71 00:03:14,816 --> 00:03:16,487 "Well, I was born ... " 72 00:03:16,511 --> 00:03:19,982 (Laughter) 73 00:03:20,006 --> 00:03:22,656 I heard a great story recently -- I love telling it -- 74 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,051 of a little girl who was in a drawing lesson. 75 00:03:25,075 --> 00:03:27,250 She was six, and she was at the back, drawing, 76 00:03:27,274 --> 00:03:30,034 and the teacher said this girl hardly ever paid attention, 77 00:03:30,058 --> 00:03:31,844 and in this drawing lesson, she did. 78 00:03:31,868 --> 00:03:33,208 The teacher was fascinated. 79 00:03:33,232 --> 00:03:36,021 She went over to her, and she said, "What are you drawing?" 80 00:03:36,045 --> 00:03:38,536 And the girl said, "I'm drawing a picture of God." 81 00:03:39,642 --> 00:03:42,960 And the teacher said, "But nobody knows what God looks like." 82 00:03:42,984 --> 00:03:45,072 And the girl said, "They will in a minute." 83 00:03:45,096 --> 00:03:51,878 (Laughter) 84 00:03:56,662 --> 00:03:59,389 When my son was four in England -- 85 00:03:59,413 --> 00:04:01,604 actually, he was four everywhere, to be honest. 86 00:04:01,628 --> 00:04:03,380 (Laughter) 87 00:04:03,404 --> 00:04:06,791 If we're being strict about it, wherever he went, he was four that year. 88 00:04:06,815 --> 00:04:09,453 He was in the Nativity play. Do you remember the story? 89 00:04:09,477 --> 00:04:10,696 (Laughter) 90 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,547 No, it was big, it was a big story. 91 00:04:12,571 --> 00:04:14,876 Mel Gibson did the sequel, you may have seen it. 92 00:04:14,900 --> 00:04:16,161 (Laughter) 93 00:04:16,185 --> 00:04:17,746 "Nativity II." 94 00:04:17,770 --> 00:04:21,654 But James got the part of Joseph, which we were thrilled about. 95 00:04:21,678 --> 00:04:24,584 We considered this to be one of the lead parts. 96 00:04:24,608 --> 00:04:27,095 We had the place crammed full of agents in T-shirts: 97 00:04:27,119 --> 00:04:28,533 "James Robinson IS Joseph!" 98 00:04:28,557 --> 00:04:29,590 (Laughter) 99 00:04:29,614 --> 00:04:33,242 He didn't have to speak, but you know the bit where the three kings come in? 100 00:04:33,266 --> 00:04:35,951 They come in bearing gifts, gold, frankincense and myrrh. 101 00:04:35,975 --> 00:04:37,133 This really happened. 102 00:04:37,157 --> 00:04:40,273 We were sitting there, and I think they just went out of sequence, 103 00:04:40,297 --> 00:04:42,876 because we talked to the little boy afterward and said, 104 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,696 "You OK with that?" They said, "Yeah, why? Was that wrong?" 105 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,876 They just switched. 106 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:50,210 The three boys came in, four-year-olds with tea towels on their heads. 107 00:04:50,234 --> 00:04:53,556 They put these boxes down, and the first boy said, "I bring you gold." 108 00:04:53,580 --> 00:04:55,854 And the second boy said, "I bring you myrrh." 109 00:04:55,878 --> 00:04:57,960 And the third boy said, "Frank sent this." 110 00:04:57,984 --> 00:05:03,461 (Laughter) 111 00:05:10,711 --> 00:05:13,801 What these things have in common is that kids will take a chance. 112 00:05:13,825 --> 00:05:17,307 If they don't know, they'll have a go. 113 00:05:17,331 --> 00:05:20,360 Am I right? They're not frightened of being wrong. 114 00:05:20,924 --> 00:05:24,431 I don't mean to say that being wrong is the same thing as being creative. 115 00:05:24,886 --> 00:05:27,976 What we do know is, if you're not prepared to be wrong, 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,367 you'll never come up with anything original -- 117 00:05:30,391 --> 00:05:32,971 if you're not prepared to be wrong. 118 00:05:32,995 --> 00:05:37,438 And by the time they get to be adults, most kids have lost that capacity. 119 00:05:37,462 --> 00:05:39,926 They have become frightened of being wrong. 120 00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:41,640 And we run our companies like this. 121 00:05:41,664 --> 00:05:43,316 We stigmatize mistakes. 122 00:05:43,340 --> 00:05:45,642 And we're now running national education systems 123 00:05:45,666 --> 00:05:48,205 where mistakes are the worst thing you can make. 124 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,908 And the result is that we are educating people 125 00:05:51,932 --> 00:05:54,274 out of their creative capacities. 126 00:05:54,298 --> 00:05:58,725 Picasso once said this, he said that all children are born artists. 127 00:05:58,749 --> 00:06:01,971 The problem is to remain an artist as we grow up. 128 00:06:01,995 --> 00:06:05,227 I believe this passionately, that we don't grow into creativity, 129 00:06:05,251 --> 00:06:06,956 we grow out of it. 130 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:08,863 Or rather, we get educated out of it. 131 00:06:09,607 --> 00:06:11,510 So why is this? 132 00:06:12,124 --> 00:06:14,907 I lived in Stratford-on-Avon until about five years ago. 133 00:06:14,931 --> 00:06:17,184 In fact, we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles. 134 00:06:17,912 --> 00:06:20,536 So you can imagine what a seamless transition this was. 135 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,976 (Laughter) 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,376 Actually, we lived in a place called Snitterfield, 137 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:25,651 just outside Stratford, 138 00:06:25,675 --> 00:06:28,310 which is where Shakespeare's father was born. 139 00:06:28,334 --> 00:06:30,457 Are you struck by a new thought? I was. 140 00:06:30,481 --> 00:06:33,076 You don't think of Shakespeare having a father, do you? 141 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:34,473 Do you? 142 00:06:34,497 --> 00:06:37,388 Because you don't think of Shakespeare being a child, do you? 143 00:06:37,412 --> 00:06:38,676 Shakespeare being seven? 144 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:39,876 I never thought of it. 145 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:41,592 I mean, he was seven at some point. 146 00:06:41,616 --> 00:06:43,882 He was in somebody's English class, wasn't he? 147 00:06:43,906 --> 00:06:50,693 (Laughter) 148 00:06:50,717 --> 00:06:52,046 How annoying would that be? 149 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:55,070 (Laughter) 150 00:06:59,939 --> 00:07:01,279 "Must try harder." 151 00:07:01,303 --> 00:07:04,703 (Laughter) 152 00:07:05,559 --> 00:07:08,540 Being sent to bed by his dad, to Shakespeare, "Go to bed, now!" 153 00:07:08,564 --> 00:07:09,722 To William Shakespeare. 154 00:07:09,746 --> 00:07:11,017 "And put the pencil down!" 155 00:07:11,041 --> 00:07:12,116 (Laughter) 156 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:13,617 "And stop speaking like that." 157 00:07:13,641 --> 00:07:17,220 (Laughter) 158 00:07:17,244 --> 00:07:18,568 "It's confusing everybody." 159 00:07:18,592 --> 00:07:23,862 (Laughter) 160 00:07:23,886 --> 00:07:29,072 Anyway, we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles, 161 00:07:29,096 --> 00:07:31,572 and I just want to say a word about the transition. 162 00:07:31,596 --> 00:07:33,398 Actually, my son didn't want to come. 163 00:07:33,422 --> 00:07:35,817 I've got two kids; he's 21 now, my daughter's 16. 164 00:07:35,841 --> 00:07:38,044 He didn't want to come to Los Angeles. 165 00:07:38,068 --> 00:07:41,856 He loved it, but he had a girlfriend in England. 166 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,737 This was the love of his life, Sarah. 167 00:07:44,761 --> 00:07:46,136 He'd known her for a month. 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,510 (Laughter) 169 00:07:47,534 --> 00:07:50,813 Mind you, they'd had their fourth anniversary, 170 00:07:50,837 --> 00:07:52,773 because it's a long time when you're 16. 171 00:07:52,797 --> 00:07:54,438 He was really upset on the plane. 172 00:07:54,462 --> 00:07:56,869 He said, "I'll never find another girl like Sarah." 173 00:07:56,893 --> 00:07:59,207 And we were rather pleased about that, frankly -- 174 00:07:59,231 --> 00:08:03,464 (Laughter) 175 00:08:07,434 --> 00:08:10,380 because she was the main reason we were leaving the country. 176 00:08:10,404 --> 00:08:13,404 (Laughter) 177 00:08:16,141 --> 00:08:18,503 But something strikes you when you move to America 178 00:08:18,527 --> 00:08:19,894 and travel around the world: 179 00:08:19,918 --> 00:08:23,565 every education system on earth has the same hierarchy of subjects. 180 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:25,492 Every one. Doesn't matter where you go. 181 00:08:25,516 --> 00:08:27,786 You'd think it would be otherwise, but it isn't. 182 00:08:27,810 --> 00:08:30,791 At the top are mathematics and languages, then the humanities. 183 00:08:30,815 --> 00:08:33,106 At the bottom are the arts. Everywhere on earth. 184 00:08:33,130 --> 00:08:37,495 And in pretty much every system, too, there's a hierarchy within the arts. 185 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,376 Art and music are normally given a higher status in schools 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,828 than drama and dance. 187 00:08:41,852 --> 00:08:43,959 There isn't an education system on the planet 188 00:08:43,983 --> 00:08:45,902 that teaches dance every day to children 189 00:08:45,926 --> 00:08:47,576 the way we teach them mathematics. 190 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,758 Why? 191 00:08:48,782 --> 00:08:49,949 Why not? 192 00:08:49,973 --> 00:08:51,567 I think this is rather important. 193 00:08:51,591 --> 00:08:53,855 I think math is very important, but so is dance. 194 00:08:53,879 --> 00:08:56,759 Children dance all the time if they're allowed to, we all do. 195 00:08:56,783 --> 00:08:59,233 We all have bodies, don't we? Did I miss a meeting? 196 00:08:59,257 --> 00:09:02,621 (Laughter) 197 00:09:02,645 --> 00:09:04,966 Truthfully, what happens is, as children grow up, 198 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:07,704 we start to educate them progressively from the waist up. 199 00:09:07,728 --> 00:09:09,354 And then we focus on their heads. 200 00:09:09,378 --> 00:09:10,868 And slightly to one side. 201 00:09:12,044 --> 00:09:14,115 If you were to visit education as an alien 202 00:09:14,139 --> 00:09:17,120 and say "What's it for, public education?" 203 00:09:17,144 --> 00:09:19,871 I think you'd have to conclude, if you look at the output, 204 00:09:19,895 --> 00:09:21,252 who really succeeds by this, 205 00:09:21,276 --> 00:09:22,976 who does everything they should, 206 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,731 who gets all the brownie points, who are the winners -- 207 00:09:25,755 --> 00:09:28,993 I think you'd have to conclude the whole purpose of public education 208 00:09:29,017 --> 00:09:30,215 throughout the world 209 00:09:30,239 --> 00:09:32,218 is to produce university professors. 210 00:09:32,718 --> 00:09:33,886 Isn't it? 211 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:35,894 They're the people who come out the top. 212 00:09:35,918 --> 00:09:37,737 And I used to be one, so there. 213 00:09:37,761 --> 00:09:41,458 (Laughter) 214 00:09:41,482 --> 00:09:43,082 And I like university professors, 215 00:09:43,106 --> 00:09:45,021 but, you know, we shouldn't hold them up 216 00:09:45,045 --> 00:09:47,976 as the high-water mark of all human achievement. 217 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,113 They're just a form of life. 218 00:09:50,137 --> 00:09:51,560 Another form of life. 219 00:09:51,584 --> 00:09:52,981 But they're rather curious. 220 00:09:53,005 --> 00:09:54,969 And I say this out of affection for them: 221 00:09:54,993 --> 00:09:57,068 there's something curious about professors. 222 00:09:57,092 --> 00:10:00,838 In my experience -- not all of them, but typically -- they live in their heads. 223 00:10:00,862 --> 00:10:03,005 They live up there and slightly to one side. 224 00:10:03,495 --> 00:10:06,931 They're disembodied, you know, in a kind of literal way. 225 00:10:06,955 --> 00:10:10,105 They look upon their body as a form of transport for their heads. 226 00:10:10,129 --> 00:10:16,176 (Laughter) 227 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,577 Don't they? 228 00:10:17,601 --> 00:10:19,746 It's a way of getting their head to meetings. 229 00:10:19,770 --> 00:10:24,998 (Laughter) 230 00:10:25,022 --> 00:10:28,944 If you want real evidence of out-of-body experiences, by the way, 231 00:10:28,968 --> 00:10:32,443 get yourself along to a residential conference of senior academics 232 00:10:32,467 --> 00:10:34,818 and pop into the discotheque on the final night. 233 00:10:34,842 --> 00:10:37,454 (Laughter) 234 00:10:37,478 --> 00:10:38,834 And there, you will see it. 235 00:10:38,858 --> 00:10:43,351 Grown men and women writhing uncontrollably, off the beat. 236 00:10:43,375 --> 00:10:45,867 (Laughter) 237 00:10:45,891 --> 00:10:49,216 Waiting until it ends, so they can go home and write a paper about it. 238 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,221 (Laughter) 239 00:10:51,245 --> 00:10:55,106 Our education system is predicated on the idea of academic ability. 240 00:10:55,130 --> 00:10:56,301 And there's a reason. 241 00:10:56,325 --> 00:10:59,954 Around the world, there were no public systems of education, 242 00:10:59,978 --> 00:11:02,085 really, before the 19th century. 243 00:11:02,109 --> 00:11:05,356 They all came into being to meet the needs of industrialism. 244 00:11:05,380 --> 00:11:07,432 So the hierarchy is rooted on two ideas. 245 00:11:07,456 --> 00:11:12,018 Number one, that the most useful subjects for work are at the top. 246 00:11:12,042 --> 00:11:15,075 So you were probably steered benignly away from things at school 247 00:11:15,099 --> 00:11:16,251 when you were a kid, 248 00:11:16,275 --> 00:11:17,428 things you liked, 249 00:11:17,452 --> 00:11:19,894 on the grounds you would never get a job doing that. 250 00:11:19,918 --> 00:11:21,069 Is that right? 251 00:11:21,093 --> 00:11:23,505 "Don't do music, you're not going to be a musician; 252 00:11:23,529 --> 00:11:25,380 don't do art, you won't be an artist." 253 00:11:25,404 --> 00:11:28,150 Benign advice -- now, profoundly mistaken. 254 00:11:28,174 --> 00:11:30,319 The whole world is engulfed in a revolution. 255 00:11:30,343 --> 00:11:32,440 And the second is academic ability, 256 00:11:32,464 --> 00:11:35,283 which has really come to dominate our view of intelligence, 257 00:11:35,307 --> 00:11:38,046 because the universities design the system in their image. 258 00:11:38,070 --> 00:11:39,221 If you think of it, 259 00:11:39,245 --> 00:11:42,909 the whole system of public education around the world is a protracted process 260 00:11:42,933 --> 00:11:44,084 of university entrance. 261 00:11:44,108 --> 00:11:46,401 And the consequence is that many highly talented, 262 00:11:46,425 --> 00:11:48,943 brilliant, creative people think they're not, 263 00:11:48,967 --> 00:11:51,100 because the thing they were good at at school 264 00:11:51,124 --> 00:11:53,426 wasn't valued, or was actually stigmatized. 265 00:11:53,450 --> 00:11:55,679 And I think we can't afford to go on that way. 266 00:11:55,703 --> 00:11:57,990 In the next 30 years, according to UNESCO, 267 00:11:58,014 --> 00:12:01,420 more people worldwide will be graduating through education 268 00:12:01,444 --> 00:12:03,639 than since the beginning of history. 269 00:12:03,663 --> 00:12:04,820 More people. 270 00:12:04,844 --> 00:12:07,765 And it's the combination of all the things we've talked about: 271 00:12:07,789 --> 00:12:10,182 technology and its transformational effect on work, 272 00:12:10,206 --> 00:12:12,684 and demography and the huge explosion in population. 273 00:12:12,708 --> 00:12:15,145 Suddenly, degrees aren't worth anything. 274 00:12:15,169 --> 00:12:16,846 Isn't that true? 275 00:12:16,870 --> 00:12:19,851 When I was a student, if you had a degree, you had a job. 276 00:12:19,875 --> 00:12:22,673 If you didn't have a job, it's because you didn't want one. 277 00:12:22,697 --> 00:12:25,031 And I didn't want one, frankly. 278 00:12:25,055 --> 00:12:26,646 (Laughter) 279 00:12:26,670 --> 00:12:30,475 But now kids with degrees are often heading home 280 00:12:30,499 --> 00:12:32,293 to carry on playing video games, 281 00:12:32,317 --> 00:12:35,365 because you need an MA where the previous job required a BA, 282 00:12:35,389 --> 00:12:37,176 and now you need a PhD for the other. 283 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,976 It's a process of academic inflation. 284 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,756 And it indicates the whole structure of education is shifting beneath our feet. 285 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:45,322 We need to radically rethink our view of intelligence. 286 00:12:45,346 --> 00:12:47,270 We know three things about intelligence. 287 00:12:47,294 --> 00:12:48,445 One, it's diverse. 288 00:12:48,469 --> 00:12:51,450 We think about the world in all the ways that we experience it. 289 00:12:51,474 --> 00:12:54,451 We think visually, we think in sound, we think kinesthetically. 290 00:12:54,475 --> 00:12:56,796 We think in abstract terms, we think in movement. 291 00:12:56,820 --> 00:12:58,816 Secondly, intelligence is dynamic. 292 00:12:59,673 --> 00:13:01,976 If you look at the interactions of a human brain, 293 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,023 as we heard yesterday from a number of presentations, 294 00:13:05,047 --> 00:13:07,205 intelligence is wonderfully interactive. 295 00:13:07,229 --> 00:13:09,467 The brain isn't divided into compartments. 296 00:13:09,872 --> 00:13:11,446 In fact, creativity -- 297 00:13:11,470 --> 00:13:15,490 which I define as the process of having original ideas that have value -- 298 00:13:15,514 --> 00:13:17,444 more often than not comes about 299 00:13:17,468 --> 00:13:21,025 through the interaction of different disciplinary ways of seeing things. 300 00:13:22,472 --> 00:13:26,103 By the way, there's a shaft of nerves that joins the two halves of the brain, 301 00:13:26,127 --> 00:13:27,425 called the corpus callosum. 302 00:13:27,449 --> 00:13:28,670 It's thicker in women. 303 00:13:29,471 --> 00:13:31,194 Following off from Helen yesterday, 304 00:13:31,218 --> 00:13:34,229 this is probably why women are better at multitasking. 305 00:13:34,253 --> 00:13:36,078 Because you are, aren't you? 306 00:13:36,102 --> 00:13:39,436 There's a raft of research, but I know it from my personal life. 307 00:13:39,865 --> 00:13:42,800 If my wife is cooking a meal at home, which is not often ... 308 00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:45,390 thankfully. 309 00:13:45,414 --> 00:13:48,104 (Laughter) 310 00:13:48,128 --> 00:13:49,580 No, she's good at some things. 311 00:13:49,604 --> 00:13:52,499 But if she's cooking, she's dealing with people on the phone, 312 00:13:52,523 --> 00:13:55,170 she's talking to the kids, she's painting the ceiling -- 313 00:13:55,194 --> 00:13:56,209 (Laughter) 314 00:13:56,233 --> 00:13:58,258 she's doing open-heart surgery over here. 315 00:13:58,282 --> 00:14:01,280 If I'm cooking, the door is shut, the kids are out, 316 00:14:01,304 --> 00:14:02,543 the phone's on the hook, 317 00:14:02,567 --> 00:14:04,257 if she comes in, I get annoyed. 318 00:14:04,281 --> 00:14:07,071 I say, "Terry, please, I'm trying to fry an egg in here." 319 00:14:07,095 --> 00:14:13,825 (Laughter) 320 00:14:14,254 --> 00:14:15,454 "Give me a break." 321 00:14:15,478 --> 00:14:17,198 (Laughter) 322 00:14:17,222 --> 00:14:19,721 Actually, do you know that old philosophical thing, 323 00:14:19,745 --> 00:14:23,228 "If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, did it happen?" 324 00:14:23,252 --> 00:14:24,581 Remember that old chestnut? 325 00:14:24,605 --> 00:14:27,515 I saw a great T-shirt recently, which said, 326 00:14:27,539 --> 00:14:30,976 "If a man speaks his mind in a forest, and no woman hears him, 327 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,396 is he still wrong?" 328 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:38,026 (Laughter) 329 00:14:40,089 --> 00:14:42,128 And the third thing about intelligence is, 330 00:14:42,152 --> 00:14:43,521 it's distinct. 331 00:14:44,114 --> 00:14:46,618 I'm doing a new book at the moment called "Epiphany," 332 00:14:46,642 --> 00:14:49,083 which is based on a series of interviews with people 333 00:14:49,107 --> 00:14:50,971 about how they discovered their talent. 334 00:14:50,995 --> 00:14:53,116 I'm fascinated by how people got to be there. 335 00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:56,331 It's really prompted by a conversation I had with a wonderful woman 336 00:14:56,355 --> 00:14:59,032 who maybe most people have never heard of, Gillian Lynne. 337 00:14:59,056 --> 00:15:00,652 Have you heard of her? Some have. 338 00:15:00,676 --> 00:15:03,128 She's a choreographer, and everybody knows her work. 339 00:15:03,152 --> 00:15:05,168 She did "Cats" and "Phantom of the Opera." 340 00:15:05,192 --> 00:15:06,343 She's wonderful. 341 00:15:06,367 --> 00:15:09,314 I used to be on the board of The Royal Ballet, as you can see. 342 00:15:09,338 --> 00:15:11,267 (Laughter) 343 00:15:11,291 --> 00:15:14,816 Gillian and I had lunch one day. I said, "How did you get to be a dancer?" 344 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,991 It was interesting. 345 00:15:16,015 --> 00:15:18,262 When she was at school, she was really hopeless. 346 00:15:18,286 --> 00:15:21,075 And the school, in the '30s, wrote to her parents and said, 347 00:15:21,099 --> 00:15:23,134 "We think Gillian has a learning disorder." 348 00:15:23,158 --> 00:15:25,256 She couldn't concentrate; she was fidgeting. 349 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,157 I think now they'd say she had ADHD. 350 00:15:27,181 --> 00:15:28,480 Wouldn't you? 351 00:15:28,504 --> 00:15:32,681 But this was the 1930s, and ADHD hadn't been invented at this point. 352 00:15:32,705 --> 00:15:34,745 It wasn't an available condition. 353 00:15:34,769 --> 00:15:37,984 (Laughter) 354 00:15:38,008 --> 00:15:40,050 People weren't aware they could have that. 355 00:15:40,074 --> 00:15:42,499 (Laughter) 356 00:15:42,523 --> 00:15:46,699 Anyway, she went to see this specialist. 357 00:15:46,723 --> 00:15:50,430 So, this oak-paneled room, and she was there with her mother, 358 00:15:50,454 --> 00:15:52,781 and she was led and sat on this chair at the end, 359 00:15:52,805 --> 00:15:54,750 and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes, 360 00:15:54,774 --> 00:15:56,455 while this man talked to her mother 361 00:15:56,479 --> 00:15:58,943 about all the problems Gillian was having at school, 362 00:15:58,967 --> 00:16:02,516 because she was disturbing people, her homework was always late, and so on. 363 00:16:02,540 --> 00:16:03,691 Little kid of eight. 364 00:16:03,715 --> 00:16:06,626 In the end, the doctor went and sat next to Gillian and said, 365 00:16:06,650 --> 00:16:09,363 "I've listened to all these things your mother's told me. 366 00:16:09,387 --> 00:16:10,981 I need to speak to her privately. 367 00:16:11,005 --> 00:16:13,321 Wait here. We'll be back. We won't be very long," 368 00:16:13,345 --> 00:16:15,995 and they went and left her. 369 00:16:16,019 --> 00:16:17,659 But as they went out of the room, 370 00:16:17,683 --> 00:16:20,539 he turned on the radio that was sitting on his desk. 371 00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:22,201 And when they got out of the room, 372 00:16:22,225 --> 00:16:24,603 he said to her mother, "Just stand and watch her." 373 00:16:24,627 --> 00:16:27,139 And the minute they left the room, 374 00:16:27,163 --> 00:16:29,758 she was on her feet, moving to the music. 375 00:16:29,782 --> 00:16:33,285 And they watched for a few minutes, and he turned to her mother and said, 376 00:16:33,309 --> 00:16:35,288 "Mrs. Lynne, Gillian isn't sick. 377 00:16:35,312 --> 00:16:36,976 She's a dancer. 378 00:16:38,338 --> 00:16:39,724 Take her to a dance school." 379 00:16:39,748 --> 00:16:40,976 I said, "What happened?" 380 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,976 She said, "She did. I can't tell you how wonderful it was. 381 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,829 We walked in this room, and it was full of people like me -- 382 00:16:46,853 --> 00:16:49,075 people who couldn't sit still, 383 00:16:49,099 --> 00:16:52,006 people who had to move to think." 384 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:53,862 Who had to move to think. 385 00:16:53,886 --> 00:16:57,496 They did ballet, they did tap, jazz; they did modern; they did contemporary. 386 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,266 She was eventually auditioned for the Royal Ballet School. 387 00:17:00,290 --> 00:17:03,543 She became a soloist; she had a wonderful career at the Royal Ballet. 388 00:17:03,567 --> 00:17:06,122 She eventually graduated from the Royal Ballet School, 389 00:17:06,146 --> 00:17:08,074 founded the Gillian Lynne Dance Company, 390 00:17:08,098 --> 00:17:09,335 met Andrew Lloyd Webber. 391 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:10,655 She's been responsible for 392 00:17:10,679 --> 00:17:13,827 some of the most successful musical theater productions in history, 393 00:17:13,851 --> 00:17:15,447 she's given pleasure to millions, 394 00:17:15,471 --> 00:17:16,878 and she's a multimillionaire. 395 00:17:16,902 --> 00:17:20,612 Somebody else might have put her on medication and told her to calm down. 396 00:17:20,636 --> 00:17:27,418 (Applause) 397 00:17:28,603 --> 00:17:30,176 What I think it comes to is this: 398 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,976 Al Gore spoke the other night 399 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,519 about ecology and the revolution that was triggered by Rachel Carson. 400 00:17:37,257 --> 00:17:39,369 I believe our only hope for the future 401 00:17:39,393 --> 00:17:43,268 is to adopt a new conception of human ecology, 402 00:17:43,292 --> 00:17:45,819 one in which we start to reconstitute our conception 403 00:17:45,843 --> 00:17:48,104 of the richness of human capacity. 404 00:17:48,128 --> 00:17:51,499 Our education system has mined our minds 405 00:17:51,523 --> 00:17:54,964 in the way that we strip-mine the earth for a particular commodity. 406 00:17:55,377 --> 00:17:57,799 And for the future, it won't serve us. 407 00:17:57,823 --> 00:17:59,976 We have to rethink the fundamental principles 408 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,063 on which we're educating our children. 409 00:18:02,087 --> 00:18:04,761 There was a wonderful quote by Jonas Salk, who said, 410 00:18:04,785 --> 00:18:09,882 "If all the insects were to disappear from the Earth, 411 00:18:09,906 --> 00:18:12,689 within 50 years, all life on Earth would end. 412 00:18:13,770 --> 00:18:16,807 If all human beings disappeared from the Earth, 413 00:18:16,831 --> 00:18:19,465 within 50 years, all forms of life would flourish." 414 00:18:20,378 --> 00:18:21,663 And he's right. 415 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:26,121 What TED celebrates is the gift of the human imagination. 416 00:18:26,533 --> 00:18:30,767 We have to be careful now that we use this gift wisely, 417 00:18:30,791 --> 00:18:34,020 and that we avert some of the scenarios that we've talked about. 418 00:18:34,044 --> 00:18:37,799 And the only way we'll do it is by seeing our creative capacities 419 00:18:37,823 --> 00:18:39,610 for the richness they are 420 00:18:39,634 --> 00:18:42,816 and seeing our children for the hope that they are. 421 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,238 And our task is to educate their whole being, 422 00:18:45,262 --> 00:18:46,675 so they can face this future. 423 00:18:46,699 --> 00:18:49,204 By the way -- we may not see this future, 424 00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:50,791 but they will. 425 00:18:50,815 --> 00:18:53,533 And our job is to help them make something of it. 426 00:18:53,557 --> 00:18:54,742 Thank you very much. 427 00:18:54,766 --> 00:19:00,213 (Applause)