0:00:02.103,0:00:04.678 Good morning. How are you? 0:00:04.702,0:00:06.105 (Audience) Good. 0:00:06.129,0:00:07.797 It's been great, hasn't it? 0:00:08.408,0:00:10.729 I've been blown away by the whole thing. 0:00:10.753,0:00:12.245 In fact, I'm leaving. 0:00:12.269,0:00:16.175 (Laughter) 0:00:18.096,0:00:21.663 There have been three themes[br]running through the conference, 0:00:21.687,0:00:23.973 which are relevant[br]to what I want to talk about. 0:00:23.997,0:00:28.467 One is the extraordinary[br]evidence of human creativity 0:00:28.491,0:00:30.904 in all of the presentations that we've had 0:00:30.928,0:00:32.880 and in all of the people here; 0:00:32.904,0:00:35.555 just the variety of it[br]and the range of it. 0:00:36.158,0:00:38.301 The second is that it's put us in a place 0:00:38.325,0:00:40.822 where we have no idea[br]what's going to happen 0:00:40.846,0:00:42.237 in terms of the future. 0:00:42.261,0:00:45.246 No idea how this may play out. 0:00:45.270,0:00:46.892 I have an interest in education. 0:00:46.916,0:00:51.328 Actually, what I find is,[br]everybody has an interest in education. 0:00:51.352,0:00:52.669 Don't you? 0:00:52.693,0:00:54.095 I find this very interesting. 0:00:54.119,0:00:58.077 If you're at a dinner party,[br]and you say you work in education -- 0:00:58.101,0:01:00.846 actually, you're not often[br]at dinner parties, frankly. 0:01:00.870,0:01:04.666 (Laughter) 0:01:04.690,0:01:07.118 If you work in education,[br]you're not asked. 0:01:07.142,0:01:10.321 (Laughter) 0:01:10.345,0:01:14.304 And you're never asked back, curiously.[br]That's strange to me. 0:01:14.328,0:01:16.544 But if you are, and you say to somebody, 0:01:16.568,0:01:18.346 you know, they say, "What do you do?" 0:01:18.370,0:01:20.058 and you say you work in education, 0:01:20.082,0:01:22.131 you can see the blood run from their face. 0:01:22.155,0:01:23.840 They're like, "Oh my God. Why me?" 0:01:23.864,0:01:26.140 (Laughter) 0:01:26.164,0:01:27.688 "My one night out all week." 0:01:27.712,0:01:30.322 (Laughter) 0:01:30.346,0:01:33.587 But if you ask about their education,[br]they pin you to the wall, 0:01:33.611,0:01:37.018 because it's one of those things[br]that goes deep with people, am I right? 0:01:37.042,0:01:40.535 Like religion and money and other things. 0:01:40.559,0:01:45.001 So I have a big interest in education,[br]and I think we all do. 0:01:45.025,0:01:46.827 We have a huge vested interest in it, 0:01:46.851,0:01:50.171 partly because it's education[br]that's meant to take us into this future 0:01:50.195,0:01:51.849 that we can't grasp. 0:01:51.873,0:01:53.039 If you think of it, 0:01:53.063,0:01:59.185 children starting school this year[br]will be retiring in 2065. 0:02:00.272,0:02:01.843 Nobody has a clue, 0:02:01.867,0:02:05.426 despite all the expertise that's been[br]on parade for the past four days, 0:02:05.450,0:02:07.976 what the world will look like[br]in five years' time. 0:02:08.000,0:02:10.294 And yet, we're meant[br]to be educating them for it. 0:02:10.318,0:02:12.868 So the unpredictability,[br]I think, is extraordinary. 0:02:12.892,0:02:16.320 And the third part of this[br]is that we've all agreed, nonetheless, 0:02:16.344,0:02:21.649 on the really extraordinary[br]capacities that children have -- 0:02:21.673,0:02:24.008 their capacities for innovation. 0:02:24.032,0:02:26.821 I mean, Sirena last night[br]was a marvel, wasn't she? 0:02:26.845,0:02:28.515 Just seeing what she could do. 0:02:28.539,0:02:34.088 And she's exceptional, but I think[br]she's not, so to speak, 0:02:34.112,0:02:37.017 exceptional in the whole of childhood. 0:02:37.041,0:02:39.872 What you have there is a person[br]of extraordinary dedication 0:02:39.896,0:02:41.067 who found a talent. 0:02:41.091,0:02:43.677 And my contention is,[br]all kids have tremendous talents, 0:02:43.701,0:02:46.095 and we squander them, pretty ruthlessly. 0:02:46.119,0:02:47.976 So I want to talk about education, 0:02:48.000,0:02:49.872 and I want to talk about creativity. 0:02:49.896,0:02:55.992 My contention is that creativity now[br]is as important in education as literacy, 0:02:56.016,0:02:58.803 and we should treat it[br]with the same status. 0:02:58.827,0:02:59.939 (Applause) 0:02:59.963,0:03:01.152 Thank you. 0:03:01.176,0:03:05.461 (Applause) 0:03:05.485,0:03:07.771 That was it, by the way.[br]Thank you very much. 0:03:07.795,0:03:09.910 (Laughter) 0:03:09.934,0:03:11.611 So, 15 minutes left. 0:03:11.635,0:03:14.792 (Laughter) 0:03:14.816,0:03:16.487 "Well, I was born ... " 0:03:16.511,0:03:19.982 (Laughter) 0:03:20.006,0:03:22.656 I heard a great story recently --[br]I love telling it -- 0:03:22.680,0:03:25.051 of a little girl[br]who was in a drawing lesson. 0:03:25.075,0:03:27.250 She was six, and she was[br]at the back, drawing, 0:03:27.274,0:03:30.034 and the teacher said this girl[br]hardly ever paid attention, 0:03:30.058,0:03:31.844 and in this drawing lesson, she did. 0:03:31.868,0:03:33.208 The teacher was fascinated. 0:03:33.232,0:03:36.021 She went over to her,[br]and she said, "What are you drawing?" 0:03:36.045,0:03:38.536 And the girl said,[br]"I'm drawing a picture of God." 0:03:39.642,0:03:42.960 And the teacher said, "But nobody[br]knows what God looks like." 0:03:42.984,0:03:45.072 And the girl said,[br]"They will in a minute." 0:03:45.096,0:03:51.878 (Laughter) 0:03:56.662,0:03:59.389 When my son was four in England -- 0:03:59.413,0:04:01.604 actually, he was four[br]everywhere, to be honest. 0:04:01.628,0:04:03.380 (Laughter) 0:04:03.404,0:04:06.791 If we're being strict about it,[br]wherever he went, he was four that year. 0:04:06.815,0:04:09.453 He was in the Nativity play.[br]Do you remember the story? 0:04:09.477,0:04:10.696 (Laughter) 0:04:10.720,0:04:12.547 No, it was big, it was a big story. 0:04:12.571,0:04:14.876 Mel Gibson did the sequel,[br]you may have seen it. 0:04:14.900,0:04:16.161 (Laughter) 0:04:16.185,0:04:17.746 "Nativity II." 0:04:17.770,0:04:21.654 But James got the part of Joseph,[br]which we were thrilled about. 0:04:21.678,0:04:24.584 We considered this to be[br]one of the lead parts. 0:04:24.608,0:04:27.095 We had the place crammed[br]full of agents in T-shirts: 0:04:27.119,0:04:28.533 "James Robinson IS Joseph!" 0:04:28.557,0:04:29.590 (Laughter) 0:04:29.614,0:04:33.242 He didn't have to speak, but you know[br]the bit where the three kings come in? 0:04:33.266,0:04:35.951 They come in bearing gifts,[br]gold, frankincense and myrrh. 0:04:35.975,0:04:37.133 This really happened. 0:04:37.157,0:04:40.273 We were sitting there, and I think[br]they just went out of sequence, 0:04:40.297,0:04:42.876 because we talked to the little boy[br]afterward and said, 0:04:42.900,0:04:45.696 "You OK with that?" They said,[br]"Yeah, why? Was that wrong?" 0:04:45.720,0:04:46.876 They just switched. 0:04:46.900,0:04:50.210 The three boys came in, four-year-olds[br]with tea towels on their heads. 0:04:50.234,0:04:53.556 They put these boxes down, and the first[br]boy said, "I bring you gold." 0:04:53.580,0:04:55.854 And the second boy said,[br]"I bring you myrrh." 0:04:55.878,0:04:57.960 And the third boy said, "Frank sent this." 0:04:57.984,0:05:03.461 (Laughter) 0:05:10.711,0:05:13.801 What these things have in common[br]is that kids will take a chance. 0:05:13.825,0:05:17.307 If they don't know, they'll have a go. 0:05:17.331,0:05:20.360 Am I right? They're not[br]frightened of being wrong. 0:05:20.924,0:05:24.431 I don't mean to say that being wrong[br]is the same thing as being creative. 0:05:24.886,0:05:27.976 What we do know is,[br]if you're not prepared to be wrong, 0:05:28.000,0:05:30.367 you'll never come up[br]with anything original -- 0:05:30.391,0:05:32.971 if you're not prepared to be wrong. 0:05:32.995,0:05:37.438 And by the time they get to be adults,[br]most kids have lost that capacity. 0:05:37.462,0:05:39.926 They have become[br]frightened of being wrong. 0:05:39.950,0:05:41.640 And we run our companies like this. 0:05:41.664,0:05:43.316 We stigmatize mistakes. 0:05:43.340,0:05:45.642 And we're now running[br]national education systems 0:05:45.666,0:05:48.205 where mistakes are the worst[br]thing you can make. 0:05:48.800,0:05:51.908 And the result is that[br]we are educating people 0:05:51.932,0:05:54.274 out of their creative capacities. 0:05:54.298,0:05:58.725 Picasso once said this, he said[br]that all children are born artists. 0:05:58.749,0:06:01.971 The problem is to remain[br]an artist as we grow up. 0:06:01.995,0:06:05.227 I believe this passionately,[br]that we don't grow into creativity, 0:06:05.251,0:06:06.956 we grow out of it. 0:06:06.980,0:06:08.863 Or rather, we get educated out of it. 0:06:09.607,0:06:11.510 So why is this? 0:06:12.124,0:06:14.907 I lived in Stratford-on-Avon[br]until about five years ago. 0:06:14.931,0:06:17.184 In fact, we moved from Stratford[br]to Los Angeles. 0:06:17.912,0:06:20.536 So you can imagine[br]what a seamless transition this was. 0:06:20.560,0:06:21.976 (Laughter) 0:06:22.000,0:06:24.376 Actually, we lived in a place[br]called Snitterfield, 0:06:24.400,0:06:25.651 just outside Stratford, 0:06:25.675,0:06:28.310 which is where[br]Shakespeare's father was born. 0:06:28.334,0:06:30.457 Are you struck by a new thought? I was. 0:06:30.481,0:06:33.076 You don't think of Shakespeare[br]having a father, do you? 0:06:33.100,0:06:34.473 Do you? 0:06:34.497,0:06:37.388 Because you don't think[br]of Shakespeare being a child, do you? 0:06:37.412,0:06:38.676 Shakespeare being seven? 0:06:38.700,0:06:39.876 I never thought of it. 0:06:39.900,0:06:41.592 I mean, he was seven at some point. 0:06:41.616,0:06:43.882 He was in somebody's[br]English class, wasn't he? 0:06:43.906,0:06:50.693 (Laughter) 0:06:50.717,0:06:52.046 How annoying would that be? 0:06:52.070,0:06:55.070 (Laughter) 0:06:59.939,0:07:01.279 "Must try harder." 0:07:01.303,0:07:04.703 (Laughter) 0:07:05.559,0:07:08.540 Being sent to bed by his dad,[br]to Shakespeare, "Go to bed, now!" 0:07:08.564,0:07:09.722 To William Shakespeare. 0:07:09.746,0:07:11.017 "And put the pencil down!" 0:07:11.041,0:07:12.116 (Laughter) 0:07:12.140,0:07:13.617 "And stop speaking like that." 0:07:13.641,0:07:17.220 (Laughter) 0:07:17.244,0:07:18.568 "It's confusing everybody." 0:07:18.592,0:07:23.862 (Laughter) 0:07:23.886,0:07:29.072 Anyway, we moved[br]from Stratford to Los Angeles, 0:07:29.096,0:07:31.572 and I just want to say a word[br]about the transition. 0:07:31.596,0:07:33.398 Actually, my son didn't want to come. 0:07:33.422,0:07:35.817 I've got two kids;[br]he's 21 now, my daughter's 16. 0:07:35.841,0:07:38.044 He didn't want to come to Los Angeles. 0:07:38.068,0:07:41.856 He loved it, but he had[br]a girlfriend in England. 0:07:41.880,0:07:44.737 This was the love of his life, Sarah. 0:07:44.761,0:07:46.136 He'd known her for a month. 0:07:46.160,0:07:47.510 (Laughter) 0:07:47.534,0:07:50.813 Mind you, they'd had[br]their fourth anniversary, 0:07:50.837,0:07:52.773 because it's a long time when you're 16. 0:07:52.797,0:07:54.438 He was really upset on the plane. 0:07:54.462,0:07:56.869 He said, "I'll never find[br]another girl like Sarah." 0:07:56.893,0:07:59.207 And we were rather pleased[br]about that, frankly -- 0:07:59.231,0:08:03.464 (Laughter) 0:08:07.434,0:08:10.380 because she was the main reason[br]we were leaving the country. 0:08:10.404,0:08:13.404 (Laughter) 0:08:16.141,0:08:18.503 But something strikes you[br]when you move to America 0:08:18.527,0:08:19.894 and travel around the world: 0:08:19.918,0:08:23.565 every education system on earth[br]has the same hierarchy of subjects. 0:08:23.589,0:08:25.492 Every one. Doesn't matter where you go. 0:08:25.516,0:08:27.786 You'd think it would be[br]otherwise, but it isn't. 0:08:27.810,0:08:30.791 At the top are mathematics and languages,[br]then the humanities. 0:08:30.815,0:08:33.106 At the bottom are the arts.[br]Everywhere on earth. 0:08:33.130,0:08:37.495 And in pretty much every system, too,[br]there's a hierarchy within the arts. 0:08:37.519,0:08:40.376 Art and music are normally given[br]a higher status in schools 0:08:40.400,0:08:41.828 than drama and dance. 0:08:41.852,0:08:43.959 There isn't an education[br]system on the planet 0:08:43.983,0:08:45.902 that teaches dance every day to children 0:08:45.926,0:08:47.576 the way we teach them mathematics. 0:08:47.600,0:08:48.758 Why? 0:08:48.782,0:08:49.949 Why not? 0:08:49.973,0:08:51.567 I think this is rather important. 0:08:51.591,0:08:53.855 I think math is very important,[br]but so is dance. 0:08:53.879,0:08:56.759 Children dance all the time[br]if they're allowed to, we all do. 0:08:56.783,0:08:59.233 We all have bodies, don't we?[br]Did I miss a meeting? 0:08:59.257,0:09:02.621 (Laughter) 0:09:02.645,0:09:04.966 Truthfully, what happens is,[br]as children grow up, 0:09:04.990,0:09:07.704 we start to educate them progressively[br]from the waist up. 0:09:07.728,0:09:09.354 And then we focus on their heads. 0:09:09.378,0:09:10.868 And slightly to one side. 0:09:12.044,0:09:14.115 If you were to visit education as an alien 0:09:14.139,0:09:17.120 and say "What's it for, public education?" 0:09:17.144,0:09:19.871 I think you'd have to conclude,[br]if you look at the output, 0:09:19.895,0:09:21.252 who really succeeds by this, 0:09:21.276,0:09:22.976 who does everything they should, 0:09:23.000,0:09:25.731 who gets all the brownie points,[br]who are the winners -- 0:09:25.755,0:09:28.993 I think you'd have to conclude[br]the whole purpose of public education 0:09:29.017,0:09:30.215 throughout the world 0:09:30.239,0:09:32.218 is to produce university professors. 0:09:32.718,0:09:33.886 Isn't it? 0:09:33.910,0:09:35.894 They're the people who come out the top. 0:09:35.918,0:09:37.737 And I used to be one, so there. 0:09:37.761,0:09:41.458 (Laughter) 0:09:41.482,0:09:43.082 And I like university professors, 0:09:43.106,0:09:45.021 but, you know, we shouldn't hold them up 0:09:45.045,0:09:47.976 as the high-water mark[br]of all human achievement. 0:09:48.000,0:09:50.113 They're just a form of life. 0:09:50.137,0:09:51.560 Another form of life. 0:09:51.584,0:09:52.981 But they're rather curious. 0:09:53.005,0:09:54.969 And I say this out of affection for them: 0:09:54.993,0:09:57.068 there's something curious[br]about professors. 0:09:57.092,0:10:00.838 In my experience -- not all of them,[br]but typically -- they live in their heads. 0:10:00.862,0:10:03.005 They live up there[br]and slightly to one side. 0:10:03.495,0:10:06.931 They're disembodied, you know,[br]in a kind of literal way. 0:10:06.955,0:10:10.105 They look upon their body as a form[br]of transport for their heads. 0:10:10.129,0:10:16.176 (Laughter) 0:10:16.200,0:10:17.577 Don't they? 0:10:17.601,0:10:19.746 It's a way of getting[br]their head to meetings. 0:10:19.770,0:10:24.998 (Laughter) 0:10:25.022,0:10:28.944 If you want real evidence[br]of out-of-body experiences, by the way, 0:10:28.968,0:10:32.443 get yourself along to a residential[br]conference of senior academics 0:10:32.467,0:10:34.818 and pop into the discotheque[br]on the final night. 0:10:34.842,0:10:37.454 (Laughter) 0:10:37.478,0:10:38.834 And there, you will see it. 0:10:38.858,0:10:43.351 Grown men and women[br]writhing uncontrollably, off the beat. 0:10:43.375,0:10:45.867 (Laughter) 0:10:45.891,0:10:49.216 Waiting until it ends, so they can[br]go home and write a paper about it. 0:10:49.240,0:10:51.221 (Laughter) 0:10:51.245,0:10:55.106 Our education system is predicated[br]on the idea of academic ability. 0:10:55.130,0:10:56.301 And there's a reason. 0:10:56.325,0:10:59.954 Around the world, there were[br]no public systems of education, 0:10:59.978,0:11:02.085 really, before the 19th century. 0:11:02.109,0:11:05.356 They all came into being[br]to meet the needs of industrialism. 0:11:05.380,0:11:07.432 So the hierarchy is rooted on two ideas. 0:11:07.456,0:11:12.018 Number one, that the most useful[br]subjects for work are at the top. 0:11:12.042,0:11:15.075 So you were probably steered benignly away[br]from things at school 0:11:15.099,0:11:16.251 when you were a kid, 0:11:16.275,0:11:17.428 things you liked, 0:11:17.452,0:11:19.894 on the grounds you would never[br]get a job doing that. 0:11:19.918,0:11:21.069 Is that right? 0:11:21.093,0:11:23.505 "Don't do music, you're not[br]going to be a musician; 0:11:23.529,0:11:25.380 don't do art, you won't be an artist." 0:11:25.404,0:11:28.150 Benign advice -- now, profoundly mistaken. 0:11:28.174,0:11:30.319 The whole world[br]is engulfed in a revolution. 0:11:30.343,0:11:32.440 And the second is academic ability, 0:11:32.464,0:11:35.283 which has really come to dominate[br]our view of intelligence, 0:11:35.307,0:11:38.046 because the universities design[br]the system in their image. 0:11:38.070,0:11:39.221 If you think of it, 0:11:39.245,0:11:42.909 the whole system of public education[br]around the world is a protracted process 0:11:42.933,0:11:44.084 of university entrance. 0:11:44.108,0:11:46.401 And the consequence is[br]that many highly talented, 0:11:46.425,0:11:48.943 brilliant, creative people[br]think they're not, 0:11:48.967,0:11:51.100 because the thing[br]they were good at at school 0:11:51.124,0:11:53.426 wasn't valued,[br]or was actually stigmatized. 0:11:53.450,0:11:55.679 And I think we can't afford[br]to go on that way. 0:11:55.703,0:11:57.990 In the next 30 years, according to UNESCO, 0:11:58.014,0:12:01.420 more people worldwide will be[br]graduating through education 0:12:01.444,0:12:03.639 than since the beginning of history. 0:12:03.663,0:12:04.820 More people. 0:12:04.844,0:12:07.765 And it's the combination[br]of all the things we've talked about: 0:12:07.789,0:12:10.182 technology and its[br]transformational effect on work, 0:12:10.206,0:12:12.684 and demography and the huge[br]explosion in population. 0:12:12.708,0:12:15.145 Suddenly, degrees aren't worth anything. 0:12:15.169,0:12:16.846 Isn't that true? 0:12:16.870,0:12:19.851 When I was a student,[br]if you had a degree, you had a job. 0:12:19.875,0:12:22.673 If you didn't have a job,[br]it's because you didn't want one. 0:12:22.697,0:12:25.031 And I didn't want one, frankly. 0:12:25.055,0:12:26.646 (Laughter) 0:12:26.670,0:12:30.475 But now kids with degrees[br]are often heading home 0:12:30.499,0:12:32.293 to carry on playing video games, 0:12:32.317,0:12:35.365 because you need an MA[br]where the previous job required a BA, 0:12:35.389,0:12:37.176 and now you need a PhD for the other. 0:12:37.200,0:12:38.976 It's a process of academic inflation. 0:12:39.000,0:12:42.756 And it indicates the whole structure[br]of education is shifting beneath our feet. 0:12:42.780,0:12:45.322 We need to radically rethink[br]our view of intelligence. 0:12:45.346,0:12:47.270 We know three things about intelligence. 0:12:47.294,0:12:48.445 One, it's diverse. 0:12:48.469,0:12:51.450 We think about the world in all the ways[br]that we experience it. 0:12:51.474,0:12:54.451 We think visually, we think in sound,[br]we think kinesthetically. 0:12:54.475,0:12:56.796 We think in abstract terms,[br]we think in movement. 0:12:56.820,0:12:58.816 Secondly, intelligence is dynamic. 0:12:59.673,0:13:01.976 If you look at the interactions[br]of a human brain, 0:13:02.000,0:13:05.023 as we heard yesterday[br]from a number of presentations, 0:13:05.047,0:13:07.205 intelligence is wonderfully interactive. 0:13:07.229,0:13:09.467 The brain isn't divided into compartments. 0:13:09.872,0:13:11.446 In fact, creativity -- 0:13:11.470,0:13:15.490 which I define as the process of having[br]original ideas that have value -- 0:13:15.514,0:13:17.444 more often than not comes about 0:13:17.468,0:13:21.025 through the interaction of different[br]disciplinary ways of seeing things. 0:13:22.472,0:13:26.103 By the way, there's a shaft of nerves[br]that joins the two halves of the brain, 0:13:26.127,0:13:27.425 called the corpus callosum. 0:13:27.449,0:13:28.670 It's thicker in women. 0:13:29.471,0:13:31.194 Following off from Helen yesterday, 0:13:31.218,0:13:34.229 this is probably why women[br]are better at multitasking. 0:13:34.253,0:13:36.078 Because you are, aren't you? 0:13:36.102,0:13:39.436 There's a raft of research,[br]but I know it from my personal life. 0:13:39.865,0:13:42.800 If my wife is cooking a meal[br]at home, which is not often ... 0:13:44.224,0:13:45.390 thankfully. 0:13:45.414,0:13:48.104 (Laughter) 0:13:48.128,0:13:49.580 No, she's good at some things. 0:13:49.604,0:13:52.499 But if she's cooking,[br]she's dealing with people on the phone, 0:13:52.523,0:13:55.170 she's talking to the kids,[br]she's painting the ceiling -- 0:13:55.194,0:13:56.209 (Laughter) 0:13:56.233,0:13:58.258 she's doing open-heart surgery over here. 0:13:58.282,0:14:01.280 If I'm cooking, the door[br]is shut, the kids are out, 0:14:01.304,0:14:02.543 the phone's on the hook, 0:14:02.567,0:14:04.257 if she comes in, I get annoyed. 0:14:04.281,0:14:07.071 I say, "Terry, please,[br]I'm trying to fry an egg in here." 0:14:07.095,0:14:13.825 (Laughter) 0:14:14.254,0:14:15.454 "Give me a break." 0:14:15.478,0:14:17.198 (Laughter) 0:14:17.222,0:14:19.721 Actually, do you know[br]that old philosophical thing, 0:14:19.745,0:14:23.228 "If a tree falls in a forest,[br]and nobody hears it, did it happen?" 0:14:23.252,0:14:24.581 Remember that old chestnut? 0:14:24.605,0:14:27.515 I saw a great T-shirt[br]recently, which said, 0:14:27.539,0:14:30.976 "If a man speaks his mind in a forest,[br]and no woman hears him, 0:14:31.000,0:14:32.396 is he still wrong?" 0:14:32.420,0:14:38.026 (Laughter) 0:14:40.089,0:14:42.128 And the third thing about intelligence is, 0:14:42.152,0:14:43.521 it's distinct. 0:14:44.114,0:14:46.618 I'm doing a new book at the moment[br]called "Epiphany," 0:14:46.642,0:14:49.083 which is based on a series[br]of interviews with people 0:14:49.107,0:14:50.971 about how they discovered their talent. 0:14:50.995,0:14:53.116 I'm fascinated by[br]how people got to be there. 0:14:53.140,0:14:56.331 It's really prompted by a conversation[br]I had with a wonderful woman 0:14:56.355,0:14:59.032 who maybe most people[br]have never heard of, Gillian Lynne. 0:14:59.056,0:15:00.652 Have you heard of her? Some have. 0:15:00.676,0:15:03.128 She's a choreographer,[br]and everybody knows her work. 0:15:03.152,0:15:05.168 She did "Cats" and "Phantom of the Opera." 0:15:05.192,0:15:06.343 She's wonderful. 0:15:06.367,0:15:09.314 I used to be on the board[br]of The Royal Ballet, as you can see. 0:15:09.338,0:15:11.267 (Laughter) 0:15:11.291,0:15:14.816 Gillian and I had lunch one day.[br]I said, "How did you get to be a dancer?" 0:15:14.840,0:15:15.991 It was interesting. 0:15:16.015,0:15:18.262 When she was at school,[br]she was really hopeless. 0:15:18.286,0:15:21.075 And the school, in the '30s,[br]wrote to her parents and said, 0:15:21.099,0:15:23.134 "We think Gillian[br]has a learning disorder." 0:15:23.158,0:15:25.256 She couldn't concentrate;[br]she was fidgeting. 0:15:25.280,0:15:27.157 I think now they'd say she had ADHD. 0:15:27.181,0:15:28.480 Wouldn't you? 0:15:28.504,0:15:32.681 But this was the 1930s, and ADHD[br]hadn't been invented at this point. 0:15:32.705,0:15:34.745 It wasn't an available condition. 0:15:34.769,0:15:37.984 (Laughter) 0:15:38.008,0:15:40.050 People weren't aware they could have that. 0:15:40.074,0:15:42.499 (Laughter) 0:15:42.523,0:15:46.699 Anyway, she went to see this specialist. 0:15:46.723,0:15:50.430 So, this oak-paneled room,[br]and she was there with her mother, 0:15:50.454,0:15:52.781 and she was led and sat[br]on this chair at the end, 0:15:52.805,0:15:54.750 and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes, 0:15:54.774,0:15:56.455 while this man talked to her mother 0:15:56.479,0:15:58.943 about all the problems[br]Gillian was having at school, 0:15:58.967,0:16:02.516 because she was disturbing people,[br]her homework was always late, and so on. 0:16:02.540,0:16:03.691 Little kid of eight. 0:16:03.715,0:16:06.626 In the end, the doctor went[br]and sat next to Gillian and said, 0:16:06.650,0:16:09.363 "I've listened to all these[br]things your mother's told me. 0:16:09.387,0:16:10.981 I need to speak to her privately. 0:16:11.005,0:16:13.321 Wait here. We'll be back.[br]We won't be very long," 0:16:13.345,0:16:15.995 and they went and left her. 0:16:16.019,0:16:17.659 But as they went out of the room, 0:16:17.683,0:16:20.539 he turned on the radio[br]that was sitting on his desk. 0:16:20.563,0:16:22.201 And when they got out of the room, 0:16:22.225,0:16:24.603 he said to her mother,[br]"Just stand and watch her." 0:16:24.627,0:16:27.139 And the minute they left the room, 0:16:27.163,0:16:29.758 she was on her feet, moving to the music. 0:16:29.782,0:16:33.285 And they watched for a few minutes,[br]and he turned to her mother and said, 0:16:33.309,0:16:35.288 "Mrs. Lynne, Gillian isn't sick. 0:16:35.312,0:16:36.976 She's a dancer. 0:16:38.338,0:16:39.724 Take her to a dance school." 0:16:39.748,0:16:40.976 I said, "What happened?" 0:16:41.000,0:16:43.976 She said, "She did. I can't tell you[br]how wonderful it was. 0:16:44.000,0:16:46.829 We walked in this room,[br]and it was full of people like me -- 0:16:46.853,0:16:49.075 people who couldn't sit still, 0:16:49.099,0:16:52.006 people who had to move to think." 0:16:52.030,0:16:53.862 Who had to move to think. 0:16:53.886,0:16:57.496 They did ballet, they did tap, jazz;[br]they did modern; they did contemporary. 0:16:57.520,0:17:00.266 She was eventually auditioned[br]for the Royal Ballet School. 0:17:00.290,0:17:03.543 She became a soloist; she had[br]a wonderful career at the Royal Ballet. 0:17:03.567,0:17:06.122 She eventually graduated[br]from the Royal Ballet School, 0:17:06.146,0:17:08.074 founded the Gillian Lynne Dance Company, 0:17:08.098,0:17:09.335 met Andrew Lloyd Webber. 0:17:09.359,0:17:10.655 She's been responsible for 0:17:10.679,0:17:13.827 some of the most successful[br]musical theater productions in history, 0:17:13.851,0:17:15.447 she's given pleasure to millions, 0:17:15.471,0:17:16.878 and she's a multimillionaire. 0:17:16.902,0:17:20.612 Somebody else might have put her[br]on medication and told her to calm down. 0:17:20.636,0:17:27.418 (Applause) 0:17:28.603,0:17:30.176 What I think it comes to is this: 0:17:30.200,0:17:31.976 Al Gore spoke the other night 0:17:32.000,0:17:36.519 about ecology and the revolution[br]that was triggered by Rachel Carson. 0:17:37.257,0:17:39.369 I believe our only hope for the future 0:17:39.393,0:17:43.268 is to adopt a new conception[br]of human ecology, 0:17:43.292,0:17:45.819 one in which we start[br]to reconstitute our conception 0:17:45.843,0:17:48.104 of the richness of human capacity. 0:17:48.128,0:17:51.499 Our education system has mined our minds 0:17:51.523,0:17:54.964 in the way that we strip-mine the earth[br]for a particular commodity. 0:17:55.377,0:17:57.799 And for the future, it won't serve us. 0:17:57.823,0:17:59.976 We have to rethink[br]the fundamental principles 0:18:00.000,0:18:02.063 on which we're educating our children. 0:18:02.087,0:18:04.761 There was a wonderful quote[br]by Jonas Salk, who said, 0:18:04.785,0:18:09.882 "If all the insects[br]were to disappear from the Earth, 0:18:09.906,0:18:12.689 within 50 years,[br]all life on Earth would end. 0:18:13.770,0:18:16.807 If all human beings[br]disappeared from the Earth, 0:18:16.831,0:18:19.465 within 50 years,[br]all forms of life would flourish." 0:18:20.378,0:18:21.663 And he's right. 0:18:22.390,0:18:26.121 What TED celebrates is the gift[br]of the human imagination. 0:18:26.533,0:18:30.767 We have to be careful now[br]that we use this gift wisely, 0:18:30.791,0:18:34.020 and that we avert some of the scenarios[br]that we've talked about. 0:18:34.044,0:18:37.799 And the only way we'll do it[br]is by seeing our creative capacities 0:18:37.823,0:18:39.610 for the richness they are 0:18:39.634,0:18:42.816 and seeing our children[br]for the hope that they are. 0:18:42.840,0:18:45.238 And our task is to educate[br]their whole being, 0:18:45.262,0:18:46.675 so they can face this future. 0:18:46.699,0:18:49.204 By the way -- we may not see this future, 0:18:49.228,0:18:50.791 but they will. 0:18:50.815,0:18:53.533 And our job is to help them[br]make something of it. 0:18:53.557,0:18:54.742 Thank you very much. 0:18:54.766,0:19:00.213 (Applause)