[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.03,0:00:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you eat your body wants to store Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.37,0:00:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food energy because food Energy's coming Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.13,0:00:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in you should store it for a time that Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.96,0:00:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't have it and when you are not Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.69,0:00:15.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating then insulin falls and you simply Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.23,0:00:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take that food energy that you store it Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.03,0:00:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you burn it and that's why you don't Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.86,0:00:20.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,die in your sleep like every single Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.57,0:00:22.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,night you don't have to eat muffins Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.04,0:00:25.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every two hours to survive like it's Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.56,0:00:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay so if you think about it now we're Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.68,0:00:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating sort of ten times a day instead Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.50,0:00:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of three times a day so 10 times a day Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.96,0:00:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're telling our bodies to store fat Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.67,0:00:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like store fast or fast or fast or Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.65,0:00:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat and that's like I wonder why I'm so Dialogue: 0,0:00:39.21,0:00:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat it's like because you keep telling Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.55,0:00:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body do that and if you want to Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.16,0:00:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn fat then you gotta tell it to stop Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.65,0:00:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burning fat and again it's a hormonal Dialogue: 0,0:00:48.03,0:00:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signal it's not a caloric signal it's a Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.92,0:00:54.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormonal signal you got to let that Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.93,0:00:56.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin fall because it's when the Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.03,0:00:58.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enzyme fall that the body's gonna start Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.46,0:01:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burning the glycogen I'm gonna start Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.23,0:01:03.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burning the body fat if you keep your Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.60,0:01:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin high then you'll never do it Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.36,0:01:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because insulin is the signal to to go Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.64,0:01:09.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high and this is the promo type-2 Dialogue: 0,0:01:07.17,0:01:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes because you get this insulin Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.21,0:01:13.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance which means too high insulin Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.43,0:01:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time so it gets harder and Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.41,0:01:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harder to lose weight as it goes so then Dialogue: 0,0:01:15.81,0:01:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you get in sort of like 40 years in Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.35,0:01:22.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're 60 years old and you've been Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.82,0:01:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gaining weight since age 20 for example Dialogue: 0,0:01:22.83,0:01:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have all the senses and resistance Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.18,0:01:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it keeps it high even though your diet Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.86,0:01:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may be good you have to you have to Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.11,0:01:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fight all those years of insulin Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.12,0:01:33.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance and that's why I also say Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.59,0:01:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that that obesity is really a Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.63,0:01:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time-dependent phenomenon that is the Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.33,0:01:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,longer you have it the harder it is Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.13,0:01:44.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which the Clarke theory completely sort Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.70,0:01:46.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of ignores that is to say if you gain 10 Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.82,0:01:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pounds from where you are right now you Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.71,0:01:52.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could lose that pretty easily yeah but Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.53,0:01:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if somebody is 65 it's pretty hard to Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.95,0:01:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lose that 10 pounds because they've Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.08,0:01:59.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always had it and it's this sort of Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.48,0:02:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chronic resetting upwards of this body Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.97,0:02:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set weight that's the problem Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.74,0:02:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music] Dialogue: 0,0:02:08.78,0:02:13.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey my friend it's Mike muscle here Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.22,0:02:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thanks so much for showing up and tuning Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.23,0:02:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into yet another video this episode is Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.36,0:02:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proudly sponsored by salami fix one of Dialogue: 0,0:02:17.46,0:02:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the manufacturers of the world's only Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.69,0:02:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hypoallergenic mal tape that will get Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.06,0:02:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you sleeping like a baby again I mean Dialogue: 0,0:02:22.80,0:02:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wearing this shirt right now to help Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.78,0:02:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,promote the power of nose breathing and Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.27,0:02:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really discourage mouth breathing while Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.62,0:02:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're sleeping because if you're Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.88,0:02:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting there with your mouth wide open Dialogue: 0,0:02:31.32,0:02:35.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while you're sleeping well guess what Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.00,0:02:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not going to achieve those deep Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.07,0:02:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phases of restorative sleep that are Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.08,0:02:41.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to help you burn fat better become Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.70,0:02:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better fat adapted and if you are Dialogue: 0,0:02:41.55,0:02:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breathing through your mouth while Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.57,0:02:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're sleeping you're probably going to Dialogue: 0,0:02:43.77,0:02:47.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be activating cortisol and free radical Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.26,0:02:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stressors within your body so that's Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.70,0:02:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where mouth taping can come in and what Dialogue: 0,0:02:49.74,0:02:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes Sami fix a really unique product Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.54,0:02:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it's made of hypoallergenic mouth Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.58,0:02:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tape that was studied at Harvard and the Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.80,0:02:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adhesive does not cause any irritation Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.36,0:03:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to your lips and it has a small little Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.13,0:03:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pierce in there so you can speech or Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.81,0:03:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your partner or your spouse your Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.58,0:03:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children and your loved ones so please Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.26,0:03:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help support the show and get your your Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.12,0:03:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sleep on track by going to some knee Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.68,0:03:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fixed comm again thats omni fixed comm Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.08,0:03:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,som ni fi x.com dr. funk thanks so much Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.47,0:03:17.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for coming back on it's great to be with Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.27,0:03:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you again great to be here thanks having Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.40,0:03:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me yeah so that last interview we did it Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.71,0:03:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was let's see not Memorial Day I'm Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.05,0:03:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thinking of membranes day of 2016 Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.84,0:03:29.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh sure you're wearing your lapel people Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.99,0:03:32.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're asking about that in that video Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.51,0:03:33.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remember that yeah it's like early Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.55,0:03:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,November there's a whole week Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.69,0:03:37.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remembrance week oh yeah yeah yeah papi Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.06,0:03:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the punk people are asking like what's Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.95,0:03:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up with that flower and so we didn't Dialogue: 0,0:03:39.36,0:03:43.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about that so anyway ah yeah okay Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.46,0:03:44.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost eighteen months ago and I was Dialogue: 0,0:03:43.77,0:03:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking through the comments or Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.76,0:03:47.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousands of comments cuz there's such Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.26,0:03:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great content that you shared and people Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.85,0:03:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were curious or they one of the top Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.59,0:03:53.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comments that would keep coming up was Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.21,0:03:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,did this doctor really just say that the Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.73,0:03:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories in calories out model does not Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.68,0:03:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,govern whether someone loses weight or Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.36,0:04:00.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gains weight and so we're talking Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.65,0:04:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,offline how there's really no receptors Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.69,0:04:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for calories in their body yeah and this Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.61,0:04:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the thing that's very strange routine Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.14,0:04:07.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you take a concept from physics so Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.97,0:04:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what calories is is that they take a Dialogue: 0,0:04:07.95,0:04:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,piece of steak or whatever and they Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.57,0:04:13.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically burn it and see how much Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.31,0:04:15.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy it is so you can determine how Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.44,0:04:17.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many calories are in a steak and a piece Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.33,0:04:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of broccoli or a piece of wood for that Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.22,0:04:20.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,matter so you just burn it and see how Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.72,0:04:23.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much physical energy there Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.19,0:04:25.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the body has no receptors it doesn't Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.43,0:04:26.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,measure calories it has no idea how many Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.20,0:04:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories you eat so if you eat a piece Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.82,0:04:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of wood it might have 10,000 calories Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.91,0:04:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're not gonna absorb any of it Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.80,0:04:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it goes straight through you if Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.42,0:04:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you eat steak Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.74,0:04:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you it's it's going to have a certain Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.17,0:04:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number of calories if you if you drink Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.87,0:04:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cola it's gonna have a certain number of Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.52,0:04:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories if you don't drink diet cola Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.93,0:04:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's gonna have zero calories but the Dialogue: 0,0:04:44.79,0:04:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body doesn't actually know that because Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.26,0:04:51.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it has no way of measuring it so it has Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.11,0:04:52.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no way of responding to it so why would Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.21,0:04:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we think that this is a sort of an Dialogue: 0,0:04:52.56,0:04:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important concept and the only reason we Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.27,0:04:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that is because we've sort of been Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.97,0:05:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ingrained into us but it's a it's a Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.45,0:05:05.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concept of physics and it's not a Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.82,0:05:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physiologic concept if you put a hundred Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.31,0:05:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories of sugar in your mouth versus a Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.10,0:05:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundred calories of olive oil the Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.56,0:05:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physiologic response is completely and Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.78,0:05:17.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,utterly different so you put that oil Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.76,0:05:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into your mouth and drink it down for Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.01,0:05:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example and there's no insulin response Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.35,0:05:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example you eat a brownie which is Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.21,0:05:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same number of calories and insulin Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.34,0:05:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spikes way up so the body responds to Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.66,0:05:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones I mean everything runs on Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.65,0:05:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones thyroid hormone insulin all Dialogue: 0,0:05:30.78,0:05:35.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these different hormones and that's how Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.70,0:05:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it knows what to do so when it senses Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.73,0:05:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're taking in carbohydrates for Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.55,0:05:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example then insulin will go up if it Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.65,0:05:44.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,senses that protein is coming in insulin Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.39,0:05:46.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will go up as well as well as something Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.31,0:05:48.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like mTOR so there's different receptors Dialogue: 0,0:05:46.56,0:05:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for amino acids there's different Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.15,0:05:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receptors for fat there's different Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.34,0:05:55.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receptors so the fat for example you'll Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.80,0:05:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have cholecystokinin release if you need Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.83,0:05:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of fibrous foods you'll have Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.30,0:06:00.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stretch receptors in your stomach which Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.10,0:06:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are activated so there are all these Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.63,0:06:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different things that the body does Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.01,0:06:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,respond to but calories is not one of Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.38,0:06:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them so therefore it really has no idea Dialogue: 0,0:06:06.75,0:06:12.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can look on all these different you Dialogue: 0,0:06:09.75,0:06:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know these diagrams of metabolism that Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.39,0:06:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've done and you can go on google you Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.34,0:06:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can find you know hundreds of diagrams Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.67,0:06:23.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of metabolism you see the Krebs cycle Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.34,0:06:25.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see acetyl co a you'll see insulin Dialogue: 0,0:06:23.40,0:06:28.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receptors you'll see all kinds of things Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.74,0:06:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amino acids fatty acids all kinds of Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.65,0:06:33.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things and in nowhere in the last sort Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.04,0:06:36.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of five hundred you Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.54,0:06:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of human physiology have we described Dialogue: 0,0:06:36.99,0:06:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the calorie receptor it doesn't exist Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.87,0:06:47.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right and so the the entire concept is Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.92,0:06:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of borrowed from physics and sort Dialogue: 0,0:06:47.19,0:06:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of made a little bit of sense not a lot Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.14,0:06:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sense but it just kept being repeated Dialogue: 0,0:06:52.74,0:06:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeated repeated so people think that Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.33,0:06:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is true but again 100 calories of Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.84,0:07:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broccoli is not the same as a hundred Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.55,0:07:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories of donuts that's just the Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.89,0:07:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bottom line and we all try and pretend Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.72,0:07:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it is but it isn't and that's where Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.23,0:07:11.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've really failed so if you believe Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.76,0:07:14.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that calories is what's really important Dialogue: 0,0:07:11.37,0:07:16.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then all you need to do is switch over Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.01,0:07:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and drink diet soda and have that fake Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.41,0:07:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat olestra that we used to have eat Dialogue: 0,0:07:18.72,0:07:22.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fake food with zero calories switch and Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.33,0:07:24.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are lots of things we've done it Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.74,0:07:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for sort of 30 years that I mean diet Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.84,0:07:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cooks been around for a long time and Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.21,0:07:30.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there would be no obesity crisis but Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.49,0:07:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's worse than ever so it's like okay Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.99,0:07:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well you know what people never really Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.42,0:07:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get is that the bottom line is that you Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.87,0:07:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to have results if you think that Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.18,0:07:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cutting calories is what's really Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.00,0:07:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important and we've told people this is Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.67,0:07:49.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important for the last sort of 20-30 Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.35,0:07:51.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years well what's happened well obesity Dialogue: 0,0:07:49.59,0:07:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has gone like through the roof so Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.15,0:07:56.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly this entire notion is completely Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.06,0:07:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,false and that's where we're getting Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.70,0:08:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into trouble because we're following the Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.04,0:08:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong path we're so obsessed with Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.62,0:08:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories that we forget about everything Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.69,0:08:08.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else we say yeah you can eat doughnuts Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.21,0:08:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for dinner because it's the same number Dialogue: 0,0:08:08.88,0:08:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of calories as if you had that kale Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.41,0:08:16.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salad like you've got to be an idiot to Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.05,0:08:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think that eating doughnuts for dinner Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.23,0:08:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a good idea and equally as fattening Dialogue: 0,0:08:18.99,0:08:22.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as eating kale salad there's nothing the Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.36,0:08:24.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same about them the minute it goes into Dialogue: 0,0:08:22.80,0:08:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your mouth there's nothing the same Dialogue: 0,0:08:24.21,0:08:29.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about those two foods so you got to Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.79,0:08:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,follow the physiology rather than this Dialogue: 0,0:08:29.01,0:08:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of foreign notion of physics that Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.18,0:08:38.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've sort of imported in I mean why Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.97,0:08:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't we say for example that it's all Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.43,0:08:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dude the weight of food if you eat half Dialogue: 0,0:08:40.77,0:08:43.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a pound of food you will gain half a Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.39,0:08:45.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pound of weight Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.52,0:08:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know depends what you're eating in Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.96,0:08:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hormone response yeah exactly and I Dialogue: 0,0:08:48.42,0:08:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean that's the law of thermodynamics to Dialogue: 0,0:08:50.55,0:08:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first law of thermodynamics you can't Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.92,0:08:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gain a pound of weight if you've only Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.75,0:08:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eaten a pound half a pound of food if Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.00,0:09:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've eaten half a pound of food you Dialogue: 0,0:08:59.28,0:09:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,must weigh half a pound more there's Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.47,0:09:05.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply no way around it of course that's Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.45,0:09:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stupid because you get metabolism Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.61,0:09:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's metabolism something that's Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.62,0:09:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to be exhaled as carbon dioxide Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.91,0:09:13.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something's gonna go through your stools Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.62,0:09:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's all this physiology that happens Dialogue: 0,0:09:13.16,0:09:18.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when when when you go from physics to Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.11,0:09:22.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physiology but but you know the whole Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.99,0:09:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories thing is just like it's just so Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.95,0:09:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,engrained into us from like we're from Dialogue: 0,0:09:25.59,0:09:29.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time we're like 2 years old that we Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.96,0:09:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really can't let go of this notion and Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.79,0:09:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's where we're really really getting Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.26,0:09:34.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into trouble yeah do you think part of Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.76,0:09:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that is the food industry because people Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.59,0:09:38.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to the grocery store buy packaged Dialogue: 0,0:09:35.97,0:09:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food so they look at calories and so Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.01,0:09:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like indelibly inked I mean it's Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.60,0:09:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna take a long time for you on a Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.80,0:09:44.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundred thirty it was all driven by the Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.75,0:09:46.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food industry in my mind because it's Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.73,0:09:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not driven by the scientists other than Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.77,0:09:51.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know what those who have been paid off Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.97,0:09:55.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the industry because what they want Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.36,0:09:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do is equate in our minds that it's Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.62,0:09:59.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all calories so that you can say you can Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.05,0:10:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat doughnuts for dinner and then hey Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.43,0:10:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why don't you buy these doughnuts Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.90,0:10:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a lot tastier than that salad Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.67,0:10:06.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna eat and if it's 200 Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.80,0:10:09.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories of doughnuts and 200 calories Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.87,0:10:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of salmon hey same thing it's like Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.36,0:10:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cheaper it tastes better just eat that Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.79,0:10:16.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doughnut and it's great so of course Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.77,0:10:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they they love this sort of idea and the Dialogue: 0,0:10:16.71,0:10:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beverage business for example it's like Dialogue: 0,0:10:19.02,0:10:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah you can drink Gatorade and then go Dialogue: 0,0:10:21.24,0:10:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bicycle for an hour and you'll work it Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.97,0:10:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all off it's the same it's all Dialogue: 0,0:10:25.35,0:10:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equivalent when you try and make them Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.97,0:10:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,equivalent what you don't understand is Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.16,0:10:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you drink that sugary drink Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.75,0:10:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna get fatty liver you're Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.07,0:10:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna get insulin resistance you can Dialogue: 0,0:10:34.23,0:10:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exercise your muscles but you can't Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.67,0:10:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exercise your liver your livers dying Dialogue: 0,0:10:37.65,0:10:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your muscles are doing great so it's Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.51,0:10:44.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like okay well in the end you get all Dialogue: 0,0:10:41.85,0:10:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these athletes like Professor Tim Noakes Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.55,0:10:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who's running marathons to marathon Dialogue: 0,0:10:46.86,0:10:52.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after marathon and then gets type-2 Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.53,0:10:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes it's like okay well how does Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.02,0:10:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that work it works because the whole Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.72,0:10:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories notion is Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.89,0:11:01.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Falls and that's one of the things that Dialogue: 0,0:10:58.56,0:11:03.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have to understand yeah maybe it's Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.47,0:11:04.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know maybe I over exaggerated a Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.96,0:11:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little bit Dialogue: 0,0:11:04.53,0:11:10.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a fact but you really can't use that Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.25,0:11:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories notion it's not a helpful Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.11,0:11:14.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notion and if it was we would be doing a Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.63,0:11:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot better than we are sort of today Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.70,0:11:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mm-hmm and in the longer term at the Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.19,0:11:21.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,demon illogical studies have teased this Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.14,0:11:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out and and reducing calories effects Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.87,0:11:24.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resting metabolic rate which I want to Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.28,0:11:27.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get into but first is two kind of two Dialogue: 0,0:11:24.75,0:11:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,examples you know I want to talk about Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.09,0:11:31.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin and then also if someone is Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.37,0:11:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating the right amount of Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.47,0:11:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,macronutrients but is in a calorie Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.12,0:11:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,excess but yet it's keeping their Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.28,0:11:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones in balance so we've seen this a Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.26,0:11:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of people on the internet are doing Dialogue: 0,0:11:38.52,0:11:43.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like 5,000 or 4,000 calorie a day keto Dialogue: 0,0:11:41.31,0:11:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know diets and they're not gaining Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.71,0:11:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat because their hormones are Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.21,0:11:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imbalanced so yeah how do you feel about Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.03,0:11:54.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think you can do it now it all Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.01,0:11:57.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,depends on what happens you got to Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.12,0:11:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realize that for most of sort of human Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.03,0:12:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history people didn't count calories Dialogue: 0,0:11:58.77,0:12:05.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calorie intake varies widely know nobody Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.24,0:12:08.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eats sort of like 2,000 a day every Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.55,0:12:09.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single day honestly I have no idea how Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.10,0:12:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many calories I eat in a day and most Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.93,0:12:13.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people don't either they even if they Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.52,0:12:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try and count it they're wildly Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.38,0:12:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inaccurate the idea is that the body Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.92,0:12:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works as a negative feedback loop and Dialogue: 0,0:12:19.92,0:12:24.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's how we maintain stable weight so Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.99,0:12:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look let's go back to the 60s the Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.09,0:12:28.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sixties nobody's exercising and weight Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.64,0:12:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is quite stable for the most part in a Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.89,0:12:35.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very good range like in a non obese or Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.10,0:12:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overweight sort of a range so how does Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.19,0:12:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that work because if you think that you Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.58,0:12:44.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can match your calorie expenditure in Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.65,0:12:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your intake to that degree that sort of Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.91,0:12:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2% of the population is obese but you're Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.02,0:12:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking 2,000 calories a day in a year Dialogue: 0,0:12:51.93,0:12:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times 365 it's you know 70,000 calories Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.25,0:13:01.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a year a pound of fat is roughly Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.01,0:13:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3,000 calories so you're matching it to Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.98,0:13:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less like sort of a 99.5 percent Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.86,0:13:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accuracy without any idea of how many Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.68,0:13:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories are either either Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.38,0:13:15.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spending it's like there's no way that's Dialogue: 0,0:13:12.08,0:13:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible so there's obviously a negative Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.50,0:13:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feedback loop and what that is it's like Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.21,0:13:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a thermostat so a thermostat is a Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.10,0:13:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect example of a negative feedback Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.75,0:13:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loop so you set your temperature at say Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.54,0:13:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,72 degrees which is room temperature if Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.18,0:13:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's summer and it's hot then the the Dialogue: 0,0:13:29.09,0:13:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thermostat senses it's too hot and turns Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.28,0:13:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the air-conditioning brings it back Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.69,0:13:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to 72 if it's winter and it's really Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.18,0:13:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cold temperatures in the house drops to Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.58,0:13:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,69 degrees Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.63,0:13:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these thermostat senses that turns on Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.63,0:13:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the heat brings it back up so it's a Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.37,0:13:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative feedback loop and that's a Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.90,0:13:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect example of homeostasis the body Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.03,0:13:53.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does exactly the same thing and there's Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.15,0:13:57.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very similar body set way so we have a Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.69,0:14:00.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a mechanism in our body that determines Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.11,0:14:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how fat we get so if you get too fat Dialogue: 0,0:14:00.23,0:14:04.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna you're not going to survive Dialogue: 0,0:14:02.72,0:14:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you're not going to be able to Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.40,0:14:07.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,catch food or somebody's going to eat Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.84,0:14:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you if you get too skinny you're also Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.31,0:14:10.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not going to survive because you can't Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.78,0:14:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take it when there's no food like the Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.46,0:14:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wintertime there's no food you're gonna Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.75,0:14:17.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,die so the body actually sets a certain Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.78,0:14:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,set weight which is defended very Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.36,0:14:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vigorously actually so if you get too Dialogue: 0,0:14:19.49,0:14:23.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat your body will actually turn on and Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.71,0:14:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try and burn off those calories and Dialogue: 0,0:14:23.36,0:14:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've proved that through lots of Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.98,0:14:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studies so if you deliberately over feed Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.26,0:14:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people to gain 10 percent body weight Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.23,0:14:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll actually burn 500 calories per Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.39,0:14:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day more than if they're at their normal Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.51,0:14:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight then you drop them to their Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.98,0:14:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normal weight and their basal metabolic Dialogue: 0,0:14:38.60,0:14:42.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rate goes back to the same one if now Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.33,0:14:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you make them lose 10 percent of their Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.89,0:14:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body weight they're actually burning 300 Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.63,0:14:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories a day less than they did when Dialogue: 0,0:14:47.18,0:14:51.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were normal weight so you see that Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.07,0:14:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the basal metabolic rate goes up and Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.29,0:14:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down depending on where it is but the Dialogue: 0,0:14:53.48,0:14:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body has this mechanism that if you get Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.27,0:14:59.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too fat it's going to burn it off Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.98,0:15:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn off those calories so we get back Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.66,0:15:04.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to normal weight the more sort of Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.14,0:15:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation we deal with more is that Dialogue: 0,0:15:04.79,0:15:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're trying to lose weight then the Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.13,0:15:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body tries to make you gain that weight Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.99,0:15:14.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back so the key is not to look at the Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.08,0:15:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories so let's take an example of the Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.99,0:15:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thermostat mm-hmm we know there's a Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.12,0:15:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a negative feedback loop there Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.07,0:15:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you Dialogue: 0,0:15:21.32,0:15:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,temperature of 72 degrees and it gets Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.87,0:15:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too hot then what's gonna happen is that Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.17,0:15:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body will turn on the Dialogue: 0,0:15:28.70,0:15:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,air-conditioning if you for example put Dialogue: 0,0:15:31.97,0:15:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a bunch of heaters you can bring it Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.52,0:15:38.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back up so say you're at 72 degrees and Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.01,0:15:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you say okay now I want to be 75 degrees Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.84,0:15:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but instead of changing that thermostat Dialogue: 0,0:15:41.45,0:15:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you just bring in a couple of heaters Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.37,0:15:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well that's great you go from 72 to 75 Dialogue: 0,0:15:47.06,0:15:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then the thermostat is going to turn on Dialogue: 0,0:15:51.05,0:15:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the AC and then it's gonna bring it back Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.09,0:15:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down to 72 so you say okay well that Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.13,0:15:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't work so instead of one heater Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.23,0:16:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll bring in two heaters you bring it Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.18,0:16:04.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up to 75 it brings it back down and you Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.49,0:16:06.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep fighting yourself that's exactly Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.04,0:16:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what we do with our body so we have a Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.47,0:16:10.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say say our body set weight is 200 Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.11,0:16:11.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pounds we don't want to be 200 pounds we Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.76,0:16:14.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to be a hundred and eighty pounds Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.83,0:16:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you lose weight you count your Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.30,0:16:20.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories you lose weight go down to 180 Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.47,0:16:23.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what does the body do well the body Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.96,0:16:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes you hungry and then it slows down Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.60,0:16:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your metabolism in an effort to get back Dialogue: 0,0:16:26.24,0:16:31.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up to the 200 pounds so then you say Dialogue: 0,0:16:29.12,0:16:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay well now you know I've got a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.49,0:16:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,willpower so I'm gonna cut my calories Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.84,0:16:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even further so you cut your calories Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.24,0:16:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,further and what happens the body makes Dialogue: 0,0:16:37.40,0:16:41.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you hungrier and it slows down your Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.17,0:16:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic rate even more so you're Dialogue: 0,0:16:41.30,0:16:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,constantly fighting yourself rather than Dialogue: 0,0:16:43.55,0:16:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adjusting that body set wait so it's not Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.04,0:16:49.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about calories it's about this body's Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.75,0:16:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that way because the way it worked is Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.79,0:16:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that insulin is going to make you gain Dialogue: 0,0:16:52.58,0:16:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat but if your fat cells expand to a Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.79,0:17:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,certain point they're going to generate Dialogue: 0,0:16:57.98,0:17:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leptin so leptin goes into the brain and Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.52,0:17:09.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it says hey we're too fat and turns down Dialogue: 0,0:17:05.48,0:17:11.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the appetite right down okay so as your Dialogue: 0,0:17:09.44,0:17:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appetite goes down you don't eat if you Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.93,0:17:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't eat insulin goes down so perfect Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.45,0:17:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here is your negative feedback loop hi Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.06,0:17:19.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there it's me again with a quick Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.32,0:17:21.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,announcement from our show sponsor Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.64,0:17:23.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health IQ as you know there are Dialogue: 0,0:17:21.32,0:17:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progressive life insurance company the Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.21,0:17:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rewards healthy people like you and I Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.80,0:17:30.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for participating in our own health by Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.68,0:17:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exercising walking getting good deep Dialogue: 0,0:17:30.08,0:17:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restorative sleep breathing through our Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.37,0:17:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nose while we're sleeping and bar Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.29,0:17:37.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a low-carb ketogenic style diet Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.42,0:17:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weightlifting we can cut our risk of Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.67,0:17:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes heart disease and cancer by Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.95,0:17:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,orders of magnitude and that's how we Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.72,0:17:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can save money on our life insurance Dialogue: 0,0:17:43.37,0:17:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,premiums I would encourage you to see if Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.29,0:17:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can get a free quote and see if you Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.70,0:17:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,qualify by going to health iq.com force Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.12,0:17:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us h IH again if you have dependents Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.76,0:17:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loved ones in a family you need life Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.74,0:18:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insurance please visit health iq.com for Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.68,0:18:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shi h to get a free quote and see if you Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.83,0:18:05.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,qualify now let's dive back into the Dialogue: 0,0:18:02.78,0:18:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show you eat insulin goes up when you're Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.18,0:18:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too fat left and turns on and turns off Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.42,0:18:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the insulin so it works perfectly what Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.97,0:18:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens though is that if you've Dialogue: 0,0:18:12.53,0:18:19.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hijacked that mechanism now listen you Dialogue: 0,0:18:16.10,0:18:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you stimulate insulin all the time so Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.79,0:18:25.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you go to 1977 the government says eat Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.00,0:18:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lots of Brad because remember they said Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.73,0:18:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat 50 percent carbs 55 to 60 percent Dialogue: 0,0:18:28.28,0:18:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carbs right if they're eating broccoli Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.32,0:18:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're good but if you're eating white Dialogue: 0,0:18:32.21,0:18:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bread and you should see the original Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.06,0:18:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dietary Guidelines they're all white Dialogue: 0,0:18:36.08,0:18:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bread and you know spaghetti yeah and so Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.08,0:18:42.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're supposed to eat that five or six Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.37,0:18:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times a day so insulin is going through Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.23,0:18:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the roof but not just that but people Dialogue: 0,0:18:44.99,0:18:49.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,went from eating three times a day to Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.76,0:18:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,six times a day that wasn't in the Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.91,0:18:53.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guidelines but that did happen so now Dialogue: 0,0:18:52.52,0:18:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're stimula every time you eat Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.96,0:18:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assuming you eat a mixed meal Dialogue: 0,0:18:55.88,0:19:00.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna stimulate insulin assuming Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.70,0:19:03.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have some carbs some proteins on fat Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.65,0:19:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah you're gonna stimulate insulin so Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.32,0:19:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not only are you stimulated insulin more Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.36,0:19:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're stimulating it all the time so Dialogue: 0,0:19:08.65,0:19:13.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happens is that if you stimulate Dialogue: 0,0:19:12.32,0:19:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin all the time you get insulin Dialogue: 0,0:19:13.91,0:19:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance your fat cells get big it Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.78,0:19:22.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turns on leptin leptin if you stimulate Dialogue: 0,0:19:20.72,0:19:25.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time you get leptin resistance Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.37,0:19:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same thing we know that because in Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.97,0:19:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obesity what you have is not a lack of Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.40,0:19:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leptin but a total lack of response so Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.18,0:19:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a leptin resistance state so now Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.73,0:19:40.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your negative feedback loop is Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.98,0:19:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely busted because insulin you're Dialogue: 0,0:19:40.31,0:19:44.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating a diet lots of carbs eating all Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.25,0:19:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time Dialogue: 0,0:19:44.44,0:19:49.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your insulin is going up through the Dialogue: 0,0:19:46.85,0:19:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roof and leptin goes up but there's no Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.64,0:19:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,response so now your your negative Dialogue: 0,0:19:52.40,0:19:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feedback loop is busted and you're just Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.16,0:20:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to gain weight so that thermostat Dialogue: 0,0:19:56.78,0:20:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that bodyweight thermostat is gradually Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.08,0:20:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting reset upwards Dialogue: 0,0:20:01.64,0:20:06.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,higher and higher and higher exact yeah Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.44,0:20:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then if you simply try so so the Dialogue: 0,0:20:06.77,0:20:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important thing is that how do you reset Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.87,0:20:12.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that well it's a balance between insulin Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.06,0:20:15.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and leptin you can't do much about Dialogue: 0,0:20:12.83,0:20:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leptin so you really got a attack the Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.29,0:20:21.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the infant side and really lower it but Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.14,0:20:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you simply say and here's where we Dialogue: 0,0:20:21.05,0:20:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made a huge mistake so you're eating Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.09,0:20:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2,000 calories a day now you say okay I Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.08,0:20:31.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to cut 500 calories I'm gonna cut Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.75,0:20:33.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fat out because that's what the Dialogue: 0,0:20:31.85,0:20:36.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,government told them I'm gonna cut the Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.29,0:20:38.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat high calorie weight so the coke Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.53,0:20:40.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calorie thing is like okay I've cut my Dialogue: 0,0:20:38.72,0:20:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories because I've cut so much fat Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.43,0:20:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of my diet that fat had no Dialogue: 0,0:20:42.94,0:20:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practically no insulin response anyway Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.50,0:20:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah and instead of eating three times a Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.72,0:20:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day I'm gonna eat six or seven times a Dialogue: 0,0:20:49.61,0:20:52.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day because somebody told me that you Dialogue: 0,0:20:51.35,0:20:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to eat all the time Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.34,0:20:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you should eat six meals a day so not Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.57,0:21:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only are you you're not affecting your Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.55,0:21:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin because you're eating foods that Dialogue: 0,0:21:01.22,0:21:05.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are getting reading the same insulin Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.50,0:21:06.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect and you're getting more insulin Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.09,0:21:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect because you're eating all the Dialogue: 0,0:21:06.17,0:21:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time so you're eating less calories for Dialogue: 0,0:21:08.00,0:21:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having the same insulin in fact and then Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.38,0:21:13.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondering why your weight is going up Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.18,0:21:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you never corrected the problem Dialogue: 0,0:21:13.61,0:21:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is this balance between insulin Dialogue: 0,0:21:15.59,0:21:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and leptin you need to get your insulin Dialogue: 0,0:21:17.69,0:21:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,low for a significant amount of time and Dialogue: 0,0:21:19.99,0:21:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep get your you're left to get low and Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.45,0:21:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that takes a long time because that is Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.98,0:21:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reset upwards very very gradually so if Dialogue: 0,0:21:28.52,0:21:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you think about standard sort of common Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.94,0:21:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obesity it's about a pound of weight Dialogue: 0,0:21:34.58,0:21:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gain one to two pounds per year which Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.64,0:21:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adds up over three decades sort of thing Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.62,0:21:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but that's it this gradually reset Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.25,0:21:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upwards so can you move it all back down Dialogue: 0,0:21:45.89,0:21:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in like a month and a half not really Dialogue: 0,0:21:47.63,0:21:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's a long term process there's Dialogue: 0,0:21:51.38,0:21:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this really fascinating study about Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.30,0:21:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating habits and Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.74,0:22:00.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things that I've always talked about Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.21,0:22:03.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in you know in the obesity code is that Dialogue: 0,0:22:00.20,0:22:05.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not simply what we eat so if you Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.47,0:22:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at the foods that we should eat Dialogue: 0,0:22:05.84,0:22:09.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's there's really not that much Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.00,0:22:10.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disagreement nobody really thinks you Dialogue: 0,0:22:09.71,0:22:12.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be eating a lot of white bread Dialogue: 0,0:22:10.97,0:22:15.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anymore Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.35,0:22:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you look that we all sort of agree Dialogue: 0,0:22:15.40,0:22:20.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unprocessed foods are good natural fats Dialogue: 0,0:22:18.47,0:22:22.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are sort of back so there's less you Dialogue: 0,0:22:20.39,0:22:23.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know avocados and nuts it's not that Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.10,0:22:25.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much controversy around the edges like Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.84,0:22:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saturated fat and so on there's still Dialogue: 0,0:22:25.49,0:22:30.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some controversy but if you look at what Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.22,0:22:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people say you should eat it's not that Dialogue: 0,0:22:30.17,0:22:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not that different the thing I've Dialogue: 0,0:22:32.69,0:22:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never talked about is the when to eat if Dialogue: 0,0:22:35.15,0:22:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you look at nineteen seventy seven how Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.88,0:22:41.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often people are eating it's about three Dialogue: 0,0:22:39.74,0:22:42.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times a day so I grew up in to some Dialogue: 0,0:22:41.27,0:22:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needs a breakfast lunch dinner you Dialogue: 0,0:22:42.65,0:22:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted to stack your mom said no you Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.99,0:22:48.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't have a snack we don't have snacks Dialogue: 0,0:22:46.58,0:22:50.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're gonna ruin your dinner you Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.74,0:22:52.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want an after-dinner snack they're like Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.18,0:22:54.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no if you got hungry yes buddy you Dialogue: 0,0:22:52.76,0:22:57.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be more dinner that exactly what Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.74,0:23:00.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they would have said and if you look at Dialogue: 0,0:22:57.56,0:23:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the latest data so 2004 2005 the Ann Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.80,0:23:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Haynes study which is this giant sort of Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.84,0:23:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,American survey it's closer to six times Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.23,0:23:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a day average in 2005 sorry a couple of Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.00,0:23:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years ago they had this really Dialogue: 0,0:23:12.38,0:23:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interesting study where they gave Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.64,0:23:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody a smartphone app and people Dialogue: 0,0:23:16.43,0:23:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would just record when they ate and how Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.08,0:23:21.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much they ate sort of thing and they Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.13,0:23:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looked at how often people ate and they Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.47,0:23:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,broke it in by deciles so each the top Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.38,0:23:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10% of people in the bottom 10% so the Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.84,0:23:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bottom 10% the peep that the 10% of Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.44,0:23:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people who ate the least frequently Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.25,0:23:42.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,averaged 3.3 times hmm that is 90% of Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.75,0:23:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people ate more than three times a day Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.47,0:23:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's and and the top 10 percent of Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.78,0:23:47.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people how often they it was ten times a Dialogue: 0,0:23:46.94,0:23:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.15,0:23:53.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well it's ridiculous we're eating all Dialogue: 0,0:23:49.88,0:23:58.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time so again if you think about it Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.08,0:24:01.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way human nutrition is is not that Dialogue: 0,0:23:58.16,0:24:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complicated when you eat your body wants Dialogue: 0,0:24:01.49,0:24:05.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to store food energy because food Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.10,0:24:07.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Energy's coming in you should store it Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.63,0:24:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a time that you don't have it Dialogue: 0,0:24:07.67,0:24:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when you are not eating then insulin Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.60,0:24:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,falls and you simply take that food Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.97,0:24:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy that you store it and you burn it Dialogue: 0,0:24:15.83,0:24:19.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why you don't die in your Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.48,0:24:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sleep like every single night it's like Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.04,0:24:25.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes you don't have to eat muffins every Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.56,0:24:26.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two hours to survive like it's okay but Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.04,0:24:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's the way nutrition is so if you Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.90,0:24:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think about it now we're eating sort of Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.62,0:24:35.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten times a day instead of three times a Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.39,0:24:37.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day so 10 times a day we are telling our Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.27,0:24:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies to store fat Dialogue: 0,0:24:37.88,0:24:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like store fast or fast or fast or Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.79,0:24:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat and that's like I wonder why I'm so Dialogue: 0,0:24:42.32,0:24:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat it's like because you keep telling Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.45,0:24:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body do that and if you want to if Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.41,0:24:51.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to burn fat then you got to Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.15,0:24:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell it to stop burning fat and again Dialogue: 0,0:24:51.86,0:24:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a hormonal signal it's not a Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.45,0:24:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caloric signal it's a hormonal signal Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.22,0:24:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you got to let that insulin fall because Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.83,0:25:01.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's when the insulin fall that the Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.84,0:25:04.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body's gonna start burning the glycogen Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.82,0:25:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna start burning the body fat if you Dialogue: 0,0:25:04.46,0:25:09.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep your insulin high then you'll never Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.34,0:25:11.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do it because insulin is the signal to Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.23,0:25:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go high and this is the promo type-2 Dialogue: 0,0:25:11.63,0:25:15.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes because you get this insulin Dialogue: 0,0:25:13.64,0:25:17.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance which leads to high insulin Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.86,0:25:20.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the time so it gets harder and Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.87,0:25:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harder to lose weight as it goes so then Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.24,0:25:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you get in sort of like 40 years in Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.78,0:25:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're 60 years old and you've been Dialogue: 0,0:25:25.10,0:25:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gaining weight since age 20 for example Dialogue: 0,0:25:27.26,0:25:32.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have all this insulin resistance Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.99,0:25:34.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then of course the whole problem is that Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.21,0:25:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have all this insulin resistance it Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.40,0:25:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeps it high even though your diet may Dialogue: 0,0:25:36.11,0:25:40.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be good you have to you have to fight Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.33,0:25:42.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all those years of insulin resistance Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.13,0:25:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why I also say that that Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.59,0:25:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obesity is really a time-dependent Dialogue: 0,0:25:44.21,0:25:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,phenomenon that is the longer you have Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.18,0:25:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it the harder it is which the Clarke Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.49,0:25:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theory completely sort of ignores that Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.52,0:25:57.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to say if you gain ten pounds from Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.46,0:25:59.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where you are right now you could lose Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.83,0:26:04.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that pretty easily yeah but if somebody Dialogue: 0,0:25:59.96,0:26:06.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is 65 it's pretty hard to lose that ten Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.16,0:26:08.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pounds because they've always had it and Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.08,0:26:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's this sort of chronic resetting Dialogue: 0,0:26:08.81,0:26:11.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upwards of this body set weight that's Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.88,0:26:14.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem Dialogue: 0,0:26:11.69,0:26:16.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so actors in Hollywood do it all the Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.09,0:26:19.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time you see people they gain like ten Dialogue: 0,0:26:16.64,0:26:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for their 20 pounds for a roll and then Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.73,0:26:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they drop it and no no no biggie yeah of Dialogue: 0,0:26:22.55,0:26:24.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.09,0:26:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just gained it like two weeks ago Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.95,0:26:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they can lose it no problem right Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.66,0:26:30.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because their setpoint was relatively Dialogue: 0,0:26:28.10,0:26:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normal go there's that points here it Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.20,0:26:33.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,takes time it hasn't really gone up but Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.94,0:26:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they force-fed themselves to gain that Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.65,0:26:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight for whatever movie role they have Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.18,0:26:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do so their body weights here but Dialogue: 0,0:26:37.37,0:26:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their set points here so then they Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.89,0:26:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply stop eating because lectins too Dialogue: 0,0:26:41.99,0:26:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high they stop eating because they Dialogue: 0,0:26:43.82,0:26:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really don't want to eat and they just Dialogue: 0,0:26:45.53,0:26:50.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drop and we saw that in experiments with Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.75,0:26:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 1960s with the overfeeding Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.36,0:26:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,studies so those are fascinating because Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.00,0:26:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they took these college kids and they Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.12,0:27:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said we want you to gain weight so this Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.40,0:27:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was an interesting story because Ethan Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.05,0:27:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sims he wanted to study obesity so he Dialogue: 0,0:27:02.66,0:27:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said okay well you know what I'll make Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.97,0:27:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these rats gain weight so you just gave Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.74,0:27:10.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,him food and they wouldn't gain weight Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.94,0:27:12.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when they're full they stopped which is Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.49,0:27:14.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly what happens in in in like the Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.71,0:27:16.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1960s of course people ate until they're Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.78,0:27:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,full and they stopped the key of course Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.61,0:27:21.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is they're not eating all the time but Dialogue: 0,0:27:19.55,0:27:24.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they so he thought okay well I can't Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.98,0:27:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make these rats get fat that's weird Dialogue: 0,0:27:24.47,0:27:27.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought it is pretty easy so he got Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.94,0:27:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these college kids and I said I want you Dialogue: 0,0:27:27.77,0:27:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to gain like 10 percent of your weight Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.12,0:27:32.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they all thought it'd be easy and Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.86,0:27:36.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they couldn't do it they couldn't gain Dialogue: 0,0:27:32.69,0:27:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight so he went to prison and he said Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.77,0:27:42.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay I'm gonna take these people in Dialogue: 0,0:27:39.29,0:27:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prison and make them gain weight he he Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.17,0:27:47.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made sure they didn't exercise too much Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.54,0:27:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he had people watch them as they ate Dialogue: 0,0:27:47.03,0:27:51.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you know their liberties were Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.80,0:27:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being restricted so they gained weight Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.11,0:27:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but is really really hard there's one Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.12,0:27:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guy he eventually gained sort of 25 Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.98,0:28:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,percent of his body weight he was eating Dialogue: 0,0:27:56.98,0:28:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10,000 calories a day well so you think Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.56,0:28:05.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay what's going on he normally 820 500 Dialogue: 0,0:28:03.28,0:28:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories a day for example he went up to Dialogue: 0,0:28:05.39,0:28:10.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10,000 but as you went up to 10,000 his Dialogue: 0,0:28:08.15,0:28:13.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodies that way was down here and his Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.70,0:28:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body is actively trying to burn off all Dialogue: 0,0:28:13.37,0:28:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those calories that are coming in now Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.90,0:28:18.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't make up that many calories so Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.55,0:28:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he did gain weight that's what happened Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.23,0:28:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said when the experiment stopped his Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.45,0:28:25.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body set weights down here he's up here Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.55,0:28:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,boom he lost all that weight in like two Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.01,0:28:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months without effort Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.20,0:28:29.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's crazy that's crazy well you know a Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.15,0:28:31.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of bodybuilders not in review but a Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.65,0:28:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of bodybuilders use insulin for to Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.54,0:28:34.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put on mass you know because you you're Dialogue: 0,0:28:33.34,0:28:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at 190 pounds you want to be a Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.90,0:28:39.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professional onstage at 285 there's a Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.42,0:28:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,long way to go right so they used Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.04,0:28:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin a lot of anabolic sex you rev up Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.05,0:28:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that they can physically eat down Dialogue: 0,0:28:42.85,0:28:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much food Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.45,0:28:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so it's crazy um you know a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.67,0:28:48.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people will say like oh I just have a Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.08,0:28:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sluggish metabolism and I remember Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.55,0:28:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reading some studies about that like Dialogue: 0,0:28:49.93,0:28:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overweight people their metabolisms not Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.00,0:28:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slow they're just storing more than Dialogue: 0,0:28:54.10,0:28:57.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're burning you know yeah so that's Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.99,0:28:59.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really interesting about like you know Dialogue: 0,0:28:57.70,0:29:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increasing the food intake the body will Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.77,0:29:05.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compensate and will speed up resting Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.14,0:29:07.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic rate but one thing that how Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.26,0:29:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can we mentally unravel the difference Dialogue: 0,0:29:07.48,0:29:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between calorie restriction like you Dialogue: 0,0:29:10.12,0:29:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I want to lose whatever how many Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.10,0:29:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pound so I'm going to only eat 1200 Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.81,0:29:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories per day and intermittent Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.43,0:29:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting and how calorie restriction Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.59,0:29:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reduces your resting metabolic rate but Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.60,0:29:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intermittent fasting does not help us Dialogue: 0,0:29:21.91,0:29:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like navigate that yeah that's a common Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.74,0:29:28.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question and the point is that calorie Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.29,0:29:30.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restriction first of all the body really Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.99,0:29:33.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has no idea what the hell you're doing Dialogue: 0,0:29:30.87,0:29:34.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you restrict calories but the body Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.55,0:29:37.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does whatever it wants because it Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.93,0:29:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responds to hormones intermittent Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.03,0:29:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting is not about how many calories Dialogue: 0,0:29:39.31,0:29:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you eat it's about the time that you're Dialogue: 0,0:29:41.44,0:29:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not eating so you're not eating for 12 Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.17,0:29:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hours or 16 hours or 24 hours or 7 days Dialogue: 0,0:29:47.28,0:29:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people always think that you know if Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.43,0:29:56.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I only eat once a day for example and I Dialogue: 0,0:29:54.19,0:29:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat 1200 calories well that's exactly Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.11,0:30:01.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same is about 1200 calories through Dialogue: 0,0:29:58.21,0:30:03.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that day no the difference is that if Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.36,0:30:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you you know let's do a thought Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.91,0:30:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experiment yeah if you eat sort of you Dialogue: 0,0:30:08.08,0:30:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know I equal sized portions of food sort Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.68,0:30:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of every hour you know throughout the Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.53,0:30:19.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole day is that really the same as Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.05,0:30:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating that one portion through that Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.69,0:30:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole all at one sitting and it's not Dialogue: 0,0:30:22.99,0:30:26.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really because every time you kind of Dialogue: 0,0:30:24.82,0:30:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stimulate your insulin to go up and you Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.65,0:30:32.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keep telling your body to gain weight Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.18,0:30:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you drop your insulin enough what's Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.50,0:30:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna happen is that you're going to Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.72,0:30:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell your body to switch fuel sources Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.96,0:30:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay so when you're eating all the time Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.21,0:30:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're fueling your body on the food Dialogue: 0,0:30:42.55,0:30:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's coming in so you eat two thousand Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.83,0:30:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories you burn two thousand calories Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.51,0:30:49.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's all food that's kind of going in Dialogue: 0,0:30:48.16,0:30:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and out and it's going through the Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.36,0:30:53.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,short-term storage and the glycogen sure Dialogue: 0,0:30:51.24,0:30:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you let your insulin fall low Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.86,0:30:59.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough then what happens is that you Dialogue: 0,0:30:56.41,0:31:01.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,switch into burning fat so after you get Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.44,0:31:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through your glycogen then you get into Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.39,0:31:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body fat and that's where you start Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.01,0:31:06.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see the ketones and all this sort of Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.90,0:31:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff but you know that you're burning Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.70,0:31:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat so for example if you're switching Dialogue: 0,0:31:09.70,0:31:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fuel sources there's no reason for your Dialogue: 0,0:31:13.45,0:31:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body to slow down so again let's take Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.57,0:31:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some numbers so if you have a 2,000 Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.46,0:31:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories a day and you eat 1,200 but Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.09,0:31:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're eating all the time and you're Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.23,0:31:26.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're keeping your insulin high either Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.79,0:31:27.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you're injecting it or you have Dialogue: 0,0:31:26.29,0:31:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin resistance and your insulin Dialogue: 0,0:31:27.67,0:31:33.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slicer insulin is high insulin blocks Dialogue: 0,0:31:30.88,0:31:35.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like pollicis so what that means and Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.76,0:31:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've known this again for 50 years Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.41,0:31:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin stops you from burning fat why Dialogue: 0,0:31:38.71,0:31:42.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because insulin is telling your body to Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.78,0:31:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gain fat so you don't want to burn fat Dialogue: 0,0:31:42.76,0:31:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and gain found at the same time so we Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.38,0:31:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say insulin inhibits lipolysis so if Dialogue: 0,0:31:47.20,0:31:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin is high but you're only taking Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.76,0:31:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1200 calories you have no access to your Dialogue: 0,0:31:51.37,0:31:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat stores right because it blocks like Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.19,0:31:58.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pollicis insulin is high you can't burn Dialogue: 0,0:31:56.08,0:32:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fat so all you have coming in is 1200 Dialogue: 0,0:31:58.51,0:32:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories all you can burn is 1200 Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.51,0:32:04.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories your metabolic rate must slow Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.73,0:32:07.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.12,0:32:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order for you to survive because you Dialogue: 0,0:32:07.09,0:32:13.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to die hmm what happens now Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.64,0:32:16.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you allow your innocent to drop say Dialogue: 0,0:32:13.03,0:32:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you go on a 7 day fast and so you have Dialogue: 0,0:32:16.72,0:32:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,zero calories coming in for seven days Dialogue: 0,0:32:18.76,0:32:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I choose this not because I Dialogue: 0,0:32:20.59,0:32:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recommend it it's pretty it's fairly Dialogue: 0,0:32:23.13,0:32:28.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extreme in some cases but if you have Dialogue: 0,0:32:26.44,0:32:31.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin resistance at least I know you Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.06,0:32:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your insulin will fall so as your Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.24,0:32:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin falls then you're gonna switch Dialogue: 0,0:32:33.37,0:32:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from burning food to burning fat that's Dialogue: 0,0:32:36.55,0:32:43.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what's supposed to happen so if your Dialogue: 0,0:32:40.00,0:32:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body now sees okay I'm burning body fat Dialogue: 0,0:32:43.20,0:32:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's like tons of this stuff yeah why Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.72,0:32:52.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do I need to slow down my metabolism Dialogue: 0,0:32:49.28,0:32:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact if you look at the physiology of Dialogue: 0,0:32:52.46,0:32:59.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting it actually maintains the Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.79,0:33:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic rate because as insulin Falls Dialogue: 0,0:32:59.09,0:33:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get a counter regulatory hormone Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.85,0:33:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surge and again this is sort of basic Dialogue: 0,0:33:04.67,0:33:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physiology insulin Falls the body Dialogue: 0,0:33:08.45,0:33:13.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increases sympathetic tone so the Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.73,0:33:15.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sympathetic nervous system adrenaline Dialogue: 0,0:33:13.04,0:33:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and noradrenaline growth hormone and Dialogue: 0,0:33:15.11,0:33:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cortisol we know that that's pretty Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.75,0:33:23.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basic because that's trying to get the Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.36,0:33:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glucose back out from the liver into the Dialogue: 0,0:33:23.48,0:33:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blood and those hormones the sympathetic Dialogue: 0,0:33:25.91,0:33:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nervous system adrenaline cortisol Dialogue: 0,0:33:28.88,0:33:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,growth hormone are trying to push the Dialogue: 0,0:33:30.86,0:33:35.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glucose out well what do you think Dialogue: 0,0:33:33.32,0:33:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,adrenaline does that's not slowing your Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.87,0:33:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic rate right it's pumping it up Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.06,0:33:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why does growth hormone go up but Dialogue: 0,0:33:41.18,0:33:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,growth hormone is there because you have Dialogue: 0,0:33:44.90,0:33:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a period of gluconeogenesis at around 24 Dialogue: 0,0:33:48.92,0:33:53.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hours if you look at the physiology of Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.81,0:33:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting the glycogen stores which are Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.21,0:33:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chains of glucose in your liver that's Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.37,0:34:00.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first sort of stuff you go to when Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.82,0:34:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you burn through your glycogen it lasts Dialogue: 0,0:34:00.35,0:34:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for 24 hours at 24 to 36 hours roughly Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.23,0:34:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna burn protein and that's Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.66,0:34:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where everybody says all your burning Dialogue: 0,0:34:06.98,0:34:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,muscle know you're burning protein Dialogue: 0,0:34:08.45,0:34:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not necessarily muscle there's a Dialogue: 0,0:34:10.04,0:34:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of excess connective tissue there's Dialogue: 0,0:34:11.78,0:34:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of excess fat that you should burn Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.81,0:34:18.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you look at those you know Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.87,0:34:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documentaries of people whose weight Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.62,0:34:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have all this excess skin Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.45,0:34:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah well that needs to be burned and Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.97,0:34:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you want to burn that that's not bad Dialogue: 0,0:34:24.53,0:34:27.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing that's a good thing you want to Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.91,0:34:28.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get rid of that same thing with the Dialogue: 0,0:34:27.32,0:34:31.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tophet you you want to get rid of this Dialogue: 0,0:34:28.67,0:34:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protein but if you keep getting rid of Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.25,0:34:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protein and never putting it back in Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.81,0:34:37.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's not good either so what does a Dialogue: 0,0:34:34.67,0:34:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body do the body's not that stupid what Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.37,0:34:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it does is it pumps up growth hormone Dialogue: 0,0:34:39.05,0:34:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you can't believe it goes up like 3 Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.54,0:34:46.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to 5 fold on a 5 day fast Wow Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.15,0:34:48.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what it means is that when you eat Dialogue: 0,0:34:46.49,0:34:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again you're gonna rebuild that protein Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.97,0:34:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not the protein that you didn't need Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.41,0:34:55.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that excess skin that you didn't need Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.99,0:34:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stuff that you do need the same Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.64,0:35:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thing for @rg same thing for cancer Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.68,0:35:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cells same thing for all Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.03,0:35:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,timers plaque and so on you actually Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.61,0:35:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have the ability to break down this Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.68,0:35:09.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protein that you don't want and that's Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.54,0:35:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why a lot of these people there's a lot Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.48,0:35:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of research going on into a tappa G Dialogue: 0,0:35:11.82,0:35:17.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caloric restriction in terms of Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.27,0:35:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,longevity I mean there's a whole calorie Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.12,0:35:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,notion which is not really physiologic Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.53,0:35:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it's the same thing you really want Dialogue: 0,0:35:21.75,0:35:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to burn off this excess protein that's Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.91,0:35:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not making it good because the if you Dialogue: 0,0:35:27.12,0:35:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't ever let your body break down this Dialogue: 0,0:35:29.58,0:35:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protein you can't actually build new Dialogue: 0,0:35:32.49,0:35:41.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protein because it's like if you have a Dialogue: 0,0:35:38.15,0:35:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bathroom that you want to renovate the Dialogue: 0,0:35:41.07,0:35:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first thing you got to do is pull out Dialogue: 0,0:35:43.23,0:35:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that sort of avocado green tub that was Dialogue: 0,0:35:46.62,0:35:51.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting from the 1970s if you don't pull Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.20,0:35:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out that tub you can't put in a nice new Dialogue: 0,0:35:51.63,0:35:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clawfoot tub you have to get rid of it Dialogue: 0,0:35:54.39,0:35:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first yeah then that's the way the body Dialogue: 0,0:35:56.52,0:36:01.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,works if you look at turnover of bone Dialogue: 0,0:35:59.28,0:36:03.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's osteoclasts and osteoblasts the Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.71,0:36:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first thing you do when you remodel BOE Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.63,0:36:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is chew up the old bone then you lay Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.90,0:36:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down new bone and that's healthier then Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.69,0:36:15.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping the old crappy bone there just Dialogue: 0,0:36:12.51,0:36:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that old avocado green top so you Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.66,0:36:19.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to break it down to rebuild it and Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.55,0:36:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what fasting does it actually Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.35,0:36:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,breaks down the protein growl hormone Dialogue: 0,0:36:22.23,0:36:26.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goes through the roof and so does Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.24,0:36:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noradrenaline and some people have so Dialogue: 0,0:36:26.07,0:36:30.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much energy they're like I can't sleep Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.96,0:36:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm like waking up at like 3 a.m. and Dialogue: 0,0:36:30.30,0:36:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know doing all this work I'm like Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.45,0:36:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one is like that's great if you want but Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.00,0:36:39.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you can't then like yeah you know Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.13,0:36:41.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's just one of the things that Dialogue: 0,0:36:39.21,0:36:44.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens but what you're doing you're Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.34,0:36:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing access to those energy stores Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.16,0:36:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those fat stores remember fat is simply Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.16,0:36:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,food that's stored away for you to use Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.08,0:36:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when there's no food available now that Dialogue: 0,0:36:51.69,0:36:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've dropped your insulin you're Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.69,0:36:58.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing bought your body to access all Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.85,0:37:00.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those huge stores of energy and the Dialogue: 0,0:36:58.77,0:37:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body's going crazy and it's like yeah Dialogue: 0,0:37:00.57,0:37:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going crazy I'm gonna do this so it Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.70,0:37:07.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burns it all off and at the same time Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.19,0:37:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's breaking down this protein when you Dialogue: 0,0:37:07.11,0:37:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat again growth hormone is so high Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.82,0:37:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to rebuild your protein so Dialogue: 0,0:37:10.68,0:37:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you look at clinical studies of Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.33,0:37:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight loss Dialogue: 0,0:37:13.05,0:37:18.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you actually get much better retention Dialogue: 0,0:37:15.93,0:37:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of lean mass with an intermittent Dialogue: 0,0:37:18.21,0:37:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting strategy than a standard sort of Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.82,0:37:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cut 500 calories per day and these are Dialogue: 0,0:37:22.92,0:37:27.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sort of myths that are out there Dialogue: 0,0:37:24.45,0:37:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the myth that your metabolites going to Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.27,0:37:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go down it's actually the exact opposite Dialogue: 0,0:37:28.83,0:37:34.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting does much better in terms of Dialogue: 0,0:37:31.32,0:37:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preservation of metabolic rate oh you're Dialogue: 0,0:37:34.26,0:37:37.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna lose all this muscle it's Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.00,0:37:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,completely false it's actually the Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.23,0:37:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opposite Dialogue: 0,0:37:37.92,0:37:41.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you try to lose weight with standard Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.60,0:37:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calorie restriction compared to Dialogue: 0,0:37:41.13,0:37:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intermittent fasting and the studies are Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.72,0:37:47.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there then you will do much better by Dialogue: 0,0:37:45.45,0:37:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing the fasting because you're you're Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.64,0:37:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cycling the the sort of energy source Dialogue: 0,0:37:51.24,0:37:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're just you're allowing your body to Dialogue: 0,0:37:53.25,0:37:58.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,access those energy stores rather than Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.10,0:38:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,keeping insulin hiding it away and then Dialogue: 0,0:37:58.59,0:38:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying okay you can use whatever energy Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.48,0:38:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is coming in through the mouth and it's Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.82,0:38:06.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like 1,200 calories while you burn 1200 Dialogue: 0,0:38:04.68,0:38:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories and that's the real problem is Dialogue: 0,0:38:06.63,0:38:10.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the body and we saw this in the Dialogue: 0,0:38:09.00,0:38:14.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Biggest Loser so these Biggest Loser Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.73,0:38:17.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diets so they lose a lot of weight yeah Dialogue: 0,0:38:14.64,0:38:20.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot of fat which is great but the Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.97,0:38:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem is that the metabolic rate just Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.34,0:38:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of sank like a stone so yeah and Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.18,0:38:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one poor guy who is burning 3400 Dialogue: 0,0:38:26.49,0:38:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories a day went down to like 1800 Dialogue: 0,0:38:28.38,0:38:33.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories and what does a man drop that's Dialogue: 0,0:38:30.75,0:38:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a massive drop yeah I mean he he lost a Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.12,0:38:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of weight too but then the problem Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.95,0:38:41.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that the body's used to burning this Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.70,0:38:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,amount of calories so say say you Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.04,0:38:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,normally take 2,000 calories then you go Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.32,0:38:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this 1,500 calorie a day caloric Dialogue: 0,0:38:46.26,0:38:50.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restriction diet your body now can only Dialogue: 0,0:38:48.90,0:38:52.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn 1,500 because you haven't dropped Dialogue: 0,0:38:50.76,0:38:54.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your insulin you haven't solved this Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.35,0:38:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of hormonal imbalance you're trying Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.24,0:38:57.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to solve this kauri imbalance but it's Dialogue: 0,0:38:56.04,0:38:59.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a calorie imbalance you got the Dialogue: 0,0:38:57.24,0:39:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong problem she got the wrong solution Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.12,0:39:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you drop your calories now the body Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.30,0:39:06.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin is still high because you're Dialogue: 0,0:39:04.32,0:39:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cutting fat and you're eating six times Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.15,0:39:11.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a day so your insulin is high you have Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.82,0:39:14.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no access to body fat you instead of Dialogue: 0,0:39:11.58,0:39:16.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burning 2,000 you're burning 1,500 guess Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.49,0:39:20.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you're gonna feel cold you're gonna Dialogue: 0,0:39:16.77,0:39:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you feel sluggish your hair may fall out Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.37,0:39:24.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your nails might get brittle because Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.53,0:39:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything takes energy your heart needs Dialogue: 0,0:39:24.57,0:39:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to pump your blood pressure your Dialogue: 0,0:39:26.43,0:39:31.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,liver your kidneys and you've put them Dialogue: 0,0:39:28.83,0:39:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on this sort of restriction so you're Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.23,0:39:36.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cold and then your body makes you hungry Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.51,0:39:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know that Gowland goes up your body Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.06,0:39:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes you hungry because it wants to get Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.65,0:39:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backed up to that that weight and your Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.38,0:39:43.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic rate slowing so you feel cold Dialogue: 0,0:39:42.18,0:39:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you feel tired you hunt feel hungry you Dialogue: 0,0:39:43.80,0:39:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feel like crap and you've stopped losing Dialogue: 0,0:39:46.95,0:39:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight because your metabolic rate has Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.11,0:39:53.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gone down not to 59 that usually goes Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.51,0:39:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down to like 1450 or something like that Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.61,0:39:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah so now you're actually starting to Dialogue: 0,0:39:56.13,0:40:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regain that weight so you're on 1,500 Dialogue: 0,0:39:59.01,0:40:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories your body's move this metabolic Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.38,0:40:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rate from 2,000 to 1450 you're regaining Dialogue: 0,0:40:04.56,0:40:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that way you said forget it I'm going to Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.06,0:40:11.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go back up to 1,700 calories Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.04,0:40:14.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now you just pile on the weight because Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.79,0:40:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're still at 1450 mm-hmm and you're Dialogue: 0,0:40:14.31,0:40:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still feeling it like crap because Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.75,0:40:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're used to burn 2,000 and your Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.72,0:40:22.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weights all back to where it was Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.31,0:40:24.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like sound familiar yeah well guess Dialogue: 0,0:40:22.53,0:40:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what that's what every single dieter Dialogue: 0,0:40:24.24,0:40:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does why not instead do the intermittent Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.08,0:40:33.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting drop your insulin levels very Dialogue: 0,0:40:31.35,0:40:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,low for a period of time whatever time Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.90,0:40:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is 16 hours 24 hour whatever it is Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.09,0:40:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during that time you allow your body to Dialogue: 0,0:40:38.55,0:40:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn stored food energy hey why does it Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.96,0:40:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to change from 2000 so this is the Dialogue: 0,0:40:46.38,0:40:51.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,difference between calorie restriction Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.97,0:40:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of 1200 calories and eating one time or Dialogue: 0,0:40:51.57,0:40:57.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1200 calories in you know one day is Dialogue: 0,0:40:54.63,0:41:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're taking 1200 calories for Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.90,0:41:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example from food and 800 calories from Dialogue: 0,0:41:02.34,0:41:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body fat because you've dropped your Dialogue: 0,0:41:04.74,0:41:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin and allowed your body to access Dialogue: 0,0:41:07.23,0:41:11.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that body fat now your body's like yeah Dialogue: 0,0:41:09.72,0:41:14.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gonna burn 2,000 because I want to Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.96,0:41:16.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whereas before when your insulin is high Dialogue: 0,0:41:14.73,0:41:19.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've blocked it off and you can only Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.53,0:41:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,burn 1200 and that's the difference Dialogue: 0,0:41:19.20,0:41:23.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between sort of intermittent fasting and Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.30,0:41:25.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just calorie restriction and you can see Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.73,0:41:27.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why one works and one doesn't work Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.23,0:41:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're simply allowing your body to Dialogue: 0,0:41:27.03,0:41:31.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,access the stored food energy that's on Dialogue: 0,0:41:30.60,0:41:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body and guess what Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.65,0:41:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what is therefore that's what Dialogue: 0,0:41:33.45,0:41:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body is the body fat is there for it's Dialogue: 0,0:41:35.40,0:41:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not there for looks it's there for you Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.35,0:41:40.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to use Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.22,0:41:41.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know it's so brilliant I really Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.02,0:41:43.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wanted add more into insulin I think Dialogue: 0,0:41:41.43,0:41:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's a great analogy you know that and Dialogue: 0,0:41:43.47,0:41:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it really underscoring the importance of Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.42,0:41:49.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hormonal balance and speaking of Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.55,0:41:51.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones ghrelin is a hormone people Dialogue: 0,0:41:49.08,0:41:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about in the context of like why Dialogue: 0,0:41:51.30,0:41:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women shouldn't fast and there was a Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.86,0:41:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,study came out that show that ghrelin Dialogue: 0,0:41:54.81,0:41:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reduction was actually better in women Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.36,0:42:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,versus men which i think is interesting Dialogue: 0,0:41:58.65,0:42:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah that was a fascinating study so Dialogue: 0,0:42:01.05,0:42:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they talked about why women shouldn't Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.58,0:42:08.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fast and honestly I don't know why Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.68,0:42:11.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people say that it doesn't really make Dialogue: 0,0:42:08.40,0:42:14.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any sense I mean if the woman is Dialogue: 0,0:42:11.07,0:42:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,underweight or at risk of anorexia sure Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.37,0:42:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that makes sense like you got to apply Dialogue: 0,0:42:16.65,0:42:21.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything in a clinical context you're Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.57,0:42:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not gonna put a 16 year old 80 pound Dialogue: 0,0:42:21.21,0:42:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,girl on some kind of fasting diet you're Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.85,0:42:27.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking for trouble Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.81,0:42:31.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they might get anorexia nervosa sure but Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.54,0:42:33.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put a 250 pound 60 year-old man on Dialogue: 0,0:42:31.14,0:42:36.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting he's not gonna get any sooner Dialogue: 0,0:42:33.39,0:42:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roza okay so women can fast absolutely Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.63,0:42:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then grrrrrr Allen is so so-called Dialogue: 0,0:42:38.13,0:42:41.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hunger hormone so the higher it is the Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.48,0:42:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hungrier on and when they look that food Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.73,0:42:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,craving so one of the things that we Dialogue: 0,0:42:44.07,0:42:49.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk about all the time is people when Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.86,0:42:51.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they come in the the number one sort of Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.77,0:42:53.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,concern about fasting is hunger they Dialogue: 0,0:42:51.90,0:42:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think I can't do it I'm gonna get so Dialogue: 0,0:42:53.49,0:42:59.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hungry and what you have to realize is Dialogue: 0,0:42:55.77,0:43:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when you look at ghrelin over 24 Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.01,0:43:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hours if you don't even over 24 hours Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.84,0:43:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you see gorillas spike in a spikes three Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.82,0:43:06.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times at breakfast lunch and dinner Dialogue: 0,0:43:04.38,0:43:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're trained to eat a lot of people Dialogue: 0,0:43:06.72,0:43:10.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are trained to eat three times a day so Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.52,0:43:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it comes around to noontime ghrelin Dialogue: 0,0:43:10.65,0:43:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spikes up but he is that doesn't Dialogue: 0,0:43:12.36,0:43:18.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue to go up if you don't eat it Dialogue: 0,0:43:16.59,0:43:21.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually just drops back down to normal Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.39,0:43:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and anybody who's worked through Dinard Dialogue: 0,0:43:21.84,0:43:25.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,work through lunch Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.34,0:43:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knows this because at twelve o'clock one Dialogue: 0,0:43:25.47,0:43:30.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,o'clock you're hungry but then you're so Dialogue: 0,0:43:28.77,0:43:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,busy you're just working you're working Dialogue: 0,0:43:30.09,0:43:36.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or working by four o'clock it's as if Dialogue: 0,0:43:33.53,0:43:38.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you ain't there's actually no difference Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.78,0:43:42.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in hunger if you ate or you didn't eat Dialogue: 0,0:43:38.61,0:43:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why is that well because insulin fell Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.54,0:43:48.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body essentially ate lunch out of Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.87,0:43:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your own body fat it's like okay that's Dialogue: 0,0:43:48.57,0:43:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perfect Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.95,0:43:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's exactly what we want it to do but Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.98,0:43:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hunger does not keep going up it Dialogue: 0,0:43:54.96,0:43:58.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes in waves and I say you got to ride Dialogue: 0,0:43:56.67,0:44:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those waves out because they will come Dialogue: 0,0:43:58.65,0:44:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll be dinner time you're gonna get Dialogue: 0,0:44:00.48,0:44:04.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hungry but if you bribed it out it's Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.52,0:44:06.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna go down so if you look at food Dialogue: 0,0:44:04.80,0:44:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cravings you see the same thing so you Dialogue: 0,0:44:06.90,0:44:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can do these questionnaires and this Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.09,0:44:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,study looked at food cravings and they Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.00,0:44:16.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compared a sort of standard calorie Dialogue: 0,0:44:13.77,0:44:18.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,restriction diet to is sort of ultra Dialogue: 0,0:44:16.17,0:44:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ultra low calorie diet like a couple Dialogue: 0,0:44:18.42,0:44:22.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundred calories a day sort of thing and Dialogue: 0,0:44:20.79,0:44:26.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they found was that the cravings Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.20,0:44:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially disappeared and women versus Dialogue: 0,0:44:26.97,0:44:31.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men had much higher levels of these Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.49,0:44:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ghrelin spikes and it sort of makes Dialogue: 0,0:44:31.29,0:44:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sense when you talked about people who Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.82,0:44:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are chocoholics and crave these foods Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.67,0:44:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's women for more than men whom these Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.94,0:44:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar cravings and all that and Dialogue: 0,0:44:41.99,0:44:46.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physiologically you see that the women Dialogue: 0,0:44:44.19,0:44:48.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have these much higher morale and spikes Dialogue: 0,0:44:46.14,0:44:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they come right down when you fast Dialogue: 0,0:44:48.21,0:44:54.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them so again if you have cravings the Dialogue: 0,0:44:51.66,0:44:56.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,important thing is not to say well I'm Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.09,0:44:59.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna eat a little bit because it's like Dialogue: 0,0:44:56.31,0:45:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an itch if you're a parent you know that Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.19,0:45:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't touch that edge if you scratch Dialogue: 0,0:45:02.64,0:45:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it it's gonna get worse mm-hmm it's the Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.85,0:45:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same thing with cravings you don't say Dialogue: 0,0:45:07.65,0:45:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay I'm gonna take a little bit because Dialogue: 0,0:45:09.54,0:45:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's gonna get worse yeah if you take Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.73,0:45:15.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those cravings for and it applies to Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.10,0:45:18.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything so you have a craving for Dialogue: 0,0:45:15.57,0:45:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sweets if you all of a sudden stop Dialogue: 0,0:45:18.66,0:45:24.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating sweets entirely those cravings Dialogue: 0,0:45:21.57,0:45:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually disappear so fasting is much Dialogue: 0,0:45:24.03,0:45:28.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more powerful because if you have Dialogue: 0,0:45:25.80,0:45:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cravings for bread and then you just Dialogue: 0,0:45:28.59,0:45:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stop eating bread those cravings will Dialogue: 0,0:45:30.84,0:45:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually diminish whereas if you just Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.52,0:45:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat oh I'm just gonna eat a little bit Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.05,0:45:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of bread all the time we're gluten free Dialogue: 0,0:45:35.55,0:45:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bread low carb prayers not your way even Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.86,0:45:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you reduce the amount of bread that Dialogue: 0,0:45:42.87,0:45:47.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you eat or sweets that you eat because Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.27,0:45:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to take those sort of cravings Dialogue: 0,0:45:47.91,0:45:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down to a zero level take the food down Dialogue: 0,0:45:50.85,0:45:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the zero level and then the cravings Dialogue: 0,0:45:52.89,0:45:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappear and that's the real power of Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.80,0:45:59.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the intermittent fasting and also the Dialogue: 0,0:45:57.84,0:46:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ketogenic diets for example so if you're Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.61,0:46:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating ultra low carb well after a while Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.67,0:46:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you soon Dialogue: 0,0:46:03.20,0:46:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get used to it and those cravings for Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.91,0:46:09.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the carbs go away and that's one of the Dialogue: 0,0:46:07.94,0:46:12.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of keys to a lot of people's Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.77,0:46:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,success is that once they stop eating it Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.05,0:46:16.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they find that they don't really need it Dialogue: 0,0:46:13.97,0:46:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if you eat it sometimes you're gonna Dialogue: 0,0:46:16.16,0:46:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get those cravings right back they come Dialogue: 0,0:46:17.81,0:46:21.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right back and and sort of knowing this Dialogue: 0,0:46:20.51,0:46:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is important because then you can say Dialogue: 0,0:46:21.77,0:46:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well you can now use this information to Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.13,0:46:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your advantage because if you know you Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.96,0:46:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have this sort of addictive behavior and Dialogue: 0,0:46:29.06,0:46:34.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so on you can use these to get rid of Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.19,0:46:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your cravings at the same time do Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.01,0:46:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something which is very healthy and you Dialogue: 0,0:46:37.04,0:46:41.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know has all these other benefits in Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.63,0:46:43.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,terms of protein breakdown and at off of Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.63,0:46:45.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,G and all these other things yeah and Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.91,0:46:47.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that and that's the real key is the Dialogue: 0,0:46:45.44,0:46:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having that knowledge allows you to sort Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.84,0:46:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of say okay well I'm gonna do this I'm Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.31,0:46:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna do this and this is getting back Dialogue: 0,0:46:51.74,0:46:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what I was saying is that to me Dialogue: 0,0:46:54.50,0:47:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight loss is really about sort of two Dialogue: 0,0:46:59.63,0:47:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things what you eat and when you eat and Dialogue: 0,0:47:02.39,0:47:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of we talked endlessly and then to Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.10,0:47:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see about the what to eat but the when Dialogue: 0,0:47:05.48,0:47:11.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to eat is sort of completely ignored so Dialogue: 0,0:47:08.15,0:47:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you ignore sort of like this huge Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.15,0:47:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of fifty or sixty percent of the Dialogue: 0,0:47:13.25,0:47:17.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem you're gonna fail because you're Dialogue: 0,0:47:15.32,0:47:19.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not addressing it because we've gone Dialogue: 0,0:47:17.69,0:47:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from eating sort of three times a day to Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.55,0:47:26.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere around six to ten times a day Dialogue: 0,0:47:22.34,0:47:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we think it's good for you right you Dialogue: 0,0:47:26.27,0:47:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see this all the time and the question Dialogue: 0,0:47:27.86,0:47:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is where did this advice that you have Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.63,0:47:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to eat all the time come from food Dialogue: 0,0:47:31.91,0:47:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry you know fitness and is up Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.83,0:47:37.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there it sure didn't come from the Dialogue: 0,0:47:35.57,0:47:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctors because no doctor I know has Dialogue: 0,0:47:37.73,0:47:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ever found any study that proves that Dialogue: 0,0:47:39.74,0:47:43.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating six or eight times a day is good Dialogue: 0,0:47:41.66,0:47:47.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you and nobody in the history of Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.64,0:47:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humanity has ever done that because they Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.69,0:47:54.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have work to do yeah yeah feels you have Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.71,0:47:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go you know plow the fields you're Dialogue: 0,0:47:54.08,0:47:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not spending all your time eating and Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.69,0:48:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet we think that we shouldn't go more Dialogue: 0,0:47:58.91,0:48:02.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than a couple of hours without stuffing Dialogue: 0,0:48:00.89,0:48:04.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cookies in our mouths and we teach our Dialogue: 0,0:48:02.51,0:48:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children this yeah you should look at my Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.67,0:48:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,son schedule I mean not anymore but when Dialogue: 0,0:48:07.10,0:48:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were in like grade school and so on Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.64,0:48:15.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat breakfast in the middle of morning a Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.50,0:48:16.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couple cookies or something lunch after Dialogue: 0,0:48:15.35,0:48:19.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,school those Dialogue: 0,0:48:16.56,0:48:21.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know fruit or something dinner and Dialogue: 0,0:48:19.38,0:48:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you go to soccer and oh in between Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.30,0:48:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the hands Oh another granola bar like Dialogue: 0,0:48:23.94,0:48:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come on you know I used to go out and Dialogue: 0,0:48:27.15,0:48:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,play after dinner and it's like you Dialogue: 0,0:48:29.73,0:48:33.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't eat you're busy playing you Dialogue: 0,0:48:32.13,0:48:35.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn't have to you don't need to stop to Dialogue: 0,0:48:33.66,0:48:37.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat and so you didn't eat anything from Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.31,0:48:39.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dinner until at least breakfast the next Dialogue: 0,0:48:37.17,0:48:41.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day if you eat breakfast yeah I deal Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.69,0:48:42.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with that with my daughter right now and Dialogue: 0,0:48:41.28,0:48:44.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems that there's always a birthday Dialogue: 0,0:48:42.84,0:48:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,party some special event and it's always Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.67,0:48:48.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar-based foods yeah my topic for Dialogue: 0,0:48:47.10,0:48:50.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another conversation but you know I Dialogue: 0,0:48:48.45,0:48:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's really you know kind of Dialogue: 0,0:48:50.16,0:48:53.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fascinating about the ladies you know Dialogue: 0,0:48:51.93,0:48:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that ghrelin spike and so forth and Dialogue: 0,0:48:53.70,0:48:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going back to that just completely I Dialogue: 0,0:48:55.80,0:48:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't having you know my problem with Dialogue: 0,0:48:57.60,0:49:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diet foods is there's the Paleo Donuts Dialogue: 0,0:48:59.70,0:49:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the low-carb donuts and all this stuff Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.50,0:49:06.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is emerging for people and like you said Dialogue: 0,0:49:04.38,0:49:08.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the addition is a kick the habit Dialogue: 0,0:49:06.20,0:49:10.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously we need to enjoy life too and Dialogue: 0,0:49:08.91,0:49:12.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a little you know food periodically Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.71,0:49:14.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but um you know one whatever advise a Dialogue: 0,0:49:12.54,0:49:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heroin addict just take a small little Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.76,0:49:19.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hit yeah okay just a small like they Dialogue: 0,0:49:17.58,0:49:21.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to go cold turkey so that's kind of Dialogue: 0,0:49:19.29,0:49:23.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an interesting yeah and and and again Dialogue: 0,0:49:21.06,0:49:25.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the the key is understanding that Dialogue: 0,0:49:23.28,0:49:27.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a difference between these sort Dialogue: 0,0:49:25.29,0:49:30.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of carbohydrate insulin hypothesis and Dialogue: 0,0:49:27.93,0:49:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the insulin hypothesis the instant Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.06,0:49:33.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hypothesis says that insulin is one of Dialogue: 0,0:49:32.10,0:49:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the key regulators of Dialogue: 0,0:49:33.39,0:49:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body weight which i think is true what's Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.79,0:49:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not true is that carbs are the only sort Dialogue: 0,0:49:39.78,0:49:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of input into that system and that's Dialogue: 0,0:49:42.45,0:49:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a lot of people get into these Dialogue: 0,0:49:46.44,0:49:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debates because it's like can you eat Dialogue: 0,0:49:48.90,0:49:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high carb foods and still have low Dialogue: 0,0:49:50.91,0:49:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin absolutely so you go back to the Dialogue: 0,0:49:54.11,0:50:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okinawan for example they're eating 65% Dialogue: 0,0:49:57.30,0:50:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sweet potato diets there there's no Dialogue: 0,0:50:00.45,0:50:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obesity whatsoever you go to the Kitab Dialogue: 0,0:50:02.79,0:50:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're eating sort of 65 70 percent Dialogue: 0,0:50:05.25,0:50:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carbohydrates their serum insulin levels Dialogue: 0,0:50:07.68,0:50:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are like five percentile compared to a Dialogue: 0,0:50:10.02,0:50:15.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Swedish population no obesity Dialogue: 0,0:50:12.42,0:50:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well why is that well a big part of it Dialogue: 0,0:50:15.27,0:50:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you're not eating all the time Dialogue: 0,0:50:16.98,0:50:22.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so even though you're eating cassava and Dialogue: 0,0:50:20.10,0:50:26.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,root vegetables and all this and you got Dialogue: 0,0:50:22.41,0:50:29.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to remember again in the 1980s in China Dialogue: 0,0:50:26.49,0:50:32.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all white rice and vegetables Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.63,0:50:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating 10 times a day there's like Dialogue: 0,0:50:32.63,0:50:37.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,almost no sugar in that diet there's a Dialogue: 0,0:50:35.18,0:50:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of carbohydrates so there's you can Dialogue: 0,0:50:37.70,0:50:40.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look at the the Chinese and some people Dialogue: 0,0:50:39.68,0:50:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say oh they're eating brown rice they're Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.97,0:50:43.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not eating brown rice like I have Dialogue: 0,0:50:42.20,0:50:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relatives from there everybody's eating Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.73,0:50:50.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,white rice it's all refined grains but Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.71,0:50:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not eating all the time they're Dialogue: 0,0:50:50.33,0:50:54.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating very little sugar like almost Dialogue: 0,0:50:53.06,0:50:56.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,zero sugar and I think you know for Dialogue: 0,0:50:54.89,0:50:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different reasons Dialogue: 0,0:50:56.09,0:51:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar is much much much more fattening Dialogue: 0,0:50:58.67,0:51:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than any other carbohydrate out there Dialogue: 0,0:51:00.56,0:51:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is even though you get no Dialogue: 0,0:51:02.63,0:51:06.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin effect of fructose so fructose Dialogue: 0,0:51:05.27,0:51:09.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has no insulin of fact that has no Dialogue: 0,0:51:06.86,0:51:11.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glycemic index of fact so people used to Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.47,0:51:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's great but it's actually very Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.60,0:51:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very bad for you and I think it's sort Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.76,0:51:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of like 20 times as fattening as say Dialogue: 0,0:51:16.24,0:51:22.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brad which has sort of glucose as Dialogue: 0,0:51:19.49,0:51:25.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opposed to the Frog dose mm-hmm Dialogue: 0,0:51:22.19,0:51:28.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's no sugar in that they're not Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.13,0:51:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating all the time there's no you know Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.25,0:51:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's there's all these other sort of Dialogue: 0,0:51:29.75,0:51:34.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mitigating factors that keep their Dialogue: 0,0:51:32.81,0:51:36.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin low so you can eat a low fat Dialogue: 0,0:51:34.73,0:51:38.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diet you can eat a high fat diet and Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.95,0:51:39.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still keep your insulin low and we see Dialogue: 0,0:51:38.51,0:51:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this in traditional societies all over Dialogue: 0,0:51:39.95,0:51:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world there are societies that are Dialogue: 0,0:51:42.08,0:51:46.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,based on eating meat and they do fine Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.54,0:51:49.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's societies that are based on Dialogue: 0,0:51:46.73,0:51:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating white rice like China and they're Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.07,0:51:54.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing fine obesity wise obesity and type Dialogue: 0,0:51:51.56,0:51:56.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 diabetes but yet they're widely vary Dialogue: 0,0:51:54.65,0:51:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of their macronutrients so I Dialogue: 0,0:51:56.84,0:52:00.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should never tell people to eat you know Dialogue: 0,0:51:58.91,0:52:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to watch the macronutrient I don't think Dialogue: 0,0:52:00.53,0:52:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's that important but you have to Dialogue: 0,0:52:01.91,0:52:06.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always keep in mind the insulin effect Dialogue: 0,0:52:03.56,0:52:09.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a huge part of that is sort of Dialogue: 0,0:52:06.29,0:52:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frequency of eating and getting that way Dialogue: 0,0:52:09.17,0:52:14.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down so if three per day is sort of what Dialogue: 0,0:52:12.59,0:52:17.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people have traditionally done and done Dialogue: 0,0:52:14.39,0:52:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fairly well with that well that's pretty Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.03,0:52:21.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good but if you've been eating 10 a day Dialogue: 0,0:52:18.71,0:52:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the last 10 years going back to 3 a Dialogue: 0,0:52:21.59,0:52:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day is not gonna cut it you're not gonna Dialogue: 0,0:52:22.97,0:52:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lose weight like that you got to go Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.88,0:52:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lower than 3 to make up for those surger Dialogue: 0,0:52:28.37,0:52:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 yeah years of 10 a day and and and Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.79,0:52:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know just like the you know and this Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.88,0:52:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is where the calories thing in the Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.32,0:52:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin thing really overlaps because Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.81,0:52:42.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again Dialogue: 0,0:52:39.83,0:52:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything you eat assuming it's a blend Dialogue: 0,0:52:42.95,0:52:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the three macronutrients is going to Dialogue: 0,0:52:46.22,0:52:50.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stimulate insulin to some effect and Dialogue: 0,0:52:48.50,0:52:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's gonna have some calories so there Dialogue: 0,0:52:50.27,0:52:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is going to be an overlap between Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.97,0:52:57.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories and insulin effect so that's Dialogue: 0,0:52:55.91,0:52:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the confusion comes in because Dialogue: 0,0:52:57.41,0:53:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people say oh it's just all about Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.73,0:53:01.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories like it's not about calories Dialogue: 0,0:53:00.62,0:53:06.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's nothing to do with calories but Dialogue: 0,0:53:01.97,0:53:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's an overlap between the two but Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.23,0:53:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what when you look at Islan what you say Dialogue: 0,0:53:08.75,0:53:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that a hundred calories of certain Dialogue: 0,0:53:11.57,0:53:16.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,foods are more fattening than hundred Dialogue: 0,0:53:14.15,0:53:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calories of other foods which is sort of Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.40,0:53:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common sense and what your grandmother Dialogue: 0,0:53:18.14,0:53:22.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of would have told you like she's Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.51,0:53:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not gonna say oh you know eat cookies Dialogue: 0,0:53:22.49,0:53:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and for dinner and I've seen this advice Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.68,0:53:29.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,given help by doctors so if you want Dialogue: 0,0:53:27.11,0:53:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cookies and ice cream eat it instead of Dialogue: 0,0:53:29.21,0:53:34.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dinner and you'll be fine oh my god God Dialogue: 0,0:53:31.19,0:53:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah no clue because you can't hear you Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.49,0:53:38.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can go or that physiology I mean there's Dialogue: 0,0:53:36.08,0:53:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a whole thing to do a satiety for Dialogue: 0,0:53:38.30,0:53:44.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example remember that as you eat foods Dialogue: 0,0:53:42.16,0:53:47.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna activate certain satiety Dialogue: 0,0:53:44.87,0:53:49.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signal so if you go to the buffet and Dialogue: 0,0:53:47.18,0:53:52.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you eat like a lot like way too much and Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.58,0:53:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you try and eat a couple more pork Dialogue: 0,0:53:52.43,0:53:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chops it's like you'll never do it you Dialogue: 0,0:53:54.35,0:53:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't do it you can't force the pork Dialogue: 0,0:53:56.03,0:54:01.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chop down but if you're to eat some Dialogue: 0,0:53:58.15,0:54:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cookie you could easily do that there Dialogue: 0,0:54:01.07,0:54:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were no time for cookies exactly because Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.54,0:54:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no satiety effect of those Dialogue: 0,0:54:07.13,0:54:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,highly refined grains the sugar the Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.02,0:54:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fructose you're gonna get the calories Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.08,0:54:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna get the insulin effect but Dialogue: 0,0:54:14.63,0:54:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're not gonna get any sort of satiety Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.46,0:54:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect yeah that's why I used to think Dialogue: 0,0:54:18.83,0:54:23.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's very strange because you can eaten Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.20,0:54:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lunch in this guy I used to think this Dialogue: 0,0:54:23.30,0:54:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a kid actually it's very strange that Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.58,0:54:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can eat lunch or you can eat lunch Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.38,0:54:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a big soda and you'll feel exactly Dialogue: 0,0:54:30.26,0:54:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same in terms of fullness but you've Dialogue: 0,0:54:32.45,0:54:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taken a lot more calories when you drink Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.54,0:54:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that big soda it's like I wonder why I Dialogue: 0,0:54:37.58,0:54:42.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know you think of for 2,000 calories Dialogue: 0,0:54:40.28,0:54:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I should feel the same amount of fall no Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.53,0:54:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's completely different and this is Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.17,0:54:48.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the thing with natural foods is that Dialogue: 0,0:54:46.85,0:54:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have natural satiety Meck Dialogue: 0,0:54:48.85,0:54:55.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you eat a lot of beans which is Dialogue: 0,0:54:52.72,0:54:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all carbohydrates while you'll stretch Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.96,0:55:00.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your stomach you'll activate stretch Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.31,0:55:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receptors if you eat a lot of steak Dialogue: 0,0:55:00.34,0:55:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're going to activate peptide YY Dialogue: 0,0:55:02.77,0:55:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is for protein you're gonna Dialogue: 0,0:55:04.33,0:55:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activate in cretons which is for you Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.18,0:55:10.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know another satiety signal you're gonna Dialogue: 0,0:55:08.71,0:55:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activate cholecystokinin which is a Dialogue: 0,0:55:10.33,0:55:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satiety signal Dialogue: 0,0:55:11.56,0:55:15.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna activate the vagus nerve Dialogue: 0,0:55:13.42,0:55:16.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also in terms of stretch receptors so Dialogue: 0,0:55:15.25,0:55:18.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can eat something which is very Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.30,0:55:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bulky and feel full or you can eat Dialogue: 0,0:55:18.70,0:55:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that's very not bulky and feel Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.68,0:55:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,full because we have natural satiety Dialogue: 0,0:55:22.60,0:55:30.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mechanisms and this is part of you know Dialogue: 0,0:55:25.24,0:55:31.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human physiology because our our we Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.49,0:55:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't want to die like we don't want to Dialogue: 0,0:55:31.90,0:55:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff ourselves so much like you hear Dialogue: 0,0:55:33.91,0:55:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these arguments that oh you know we're Dialogue: 0,0:55:36.73,0:55:40.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,genetically programmed to get fat we Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.59,0:55:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just eat everything in front of our face Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.09,0:55:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was like you try eating that 60 ounce Dialogue: 0,0:55:42.73,0:55:45.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,steak that you'll get for free if you Dialogue: 0,0:55:44.32,0:55:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat in an hour Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.40,0:55:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're not going out of business any Dialogue: 0,0:55:47.41,0:55:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time soon because there's powerful Dialogue: 0,0:55:50.35,0:55:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satiety mechanisms but processing does Dialogue: 0,0:55:53.14,0:55:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is it removes all that so you take flour Dialogue: 0,0:55:56.23,0:56:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you're to eat carbohydrates like Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.72,0:56:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beans you're gonna get full even rice Dialogue: 0,0:56:00.97,0:56:05.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're gonna get full but not as full as Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.44,0:56:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you might think but now you take flour Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.62,0:56:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take out all the fats you take out Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.62,0:56:12.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the protein because the fat goes Dialogue: 0,0:56:10.39,0:56:14.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rancid so you don't want to cook rancid Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.19,0:56:16.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if you take out all the fat you take Dialogue: 0,0:56:14.80,0:56:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out all the protein you cut down a lot Dialogue: 0,0:56:16.87,0:56:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the bulk of the fiber well you've Dialogue: 0,0:56:19.36,0:56:23.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just lost three satiety signals Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.55,0:56:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've lost those stretch receptors in Dialogue: 0,0:56:23.50,0:56:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stomach you've lost the the protein Dialogue: 0,0:56:26.62,0:56:32.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satiety signals and you've lost the fat Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.05,0:56:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satiety signals then you grind it into a Dialogue: 0,0:56:32.17,0:56:36.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fine powder because you know flour when Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.18,0:56:38.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you throw it up it's very fine you grind Dialogue: 0,0:56:36.64,0:56:41.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it into a fine powder then it gets Dialogue: 0,0:56:38.32,0:56:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absorbed super fast so just like okay Dialogue: 0,0:56:41.59,0:56:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the reason people grind it up is so Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.36,0:56:47.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they can get that massive high so Dialogue: 0,0:56:45.76,0:56:50.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now you grind it up you get this massive Dialogue: 0,0:56:47.47,0:56:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high when you're eating your white bread Dialogue: 0,0:56:50.31,0:56:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now okay so it's fine for a bit and then Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.37,0:56:59.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two hours later it crashes because Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.01,0:57:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you've just gone spiked up and spiked Dialogue: 0,0:56:59.20,0:57:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down and then you want to eat a Dialogue: 0,0:57:01.66,0:57:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,muffin because you had that bagel in the Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.79,0:57:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,morning and it's all gone now because Dialogue: 0,0:57:05.38,0:57:09.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's gone up and down so that's where Dialogue: 0,0:57:07.39,0:57:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the processing is completely different Dialogue: 0,0:57:09.46,0:57:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as opposed to say even like a potato if Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.62,0:57:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need a baked potato it's pretty Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.59,0:57:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,filling like hard over you does yeah Dialogue: 0,0:57:19.84,0:57:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's pretty hard I mean when you process Dialogue: 0,0:57:22.72,0:57:26.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it when you do things like potato chips Dialogue: 0,0:57:24.88,0:57:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stuff in that deep fryer and that's Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.92,0:57:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alright yeah it changes things yeah but Dialogue: 0,0:57:31.09,0:57:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's pretty difficult to eat to overeat Dialogue: 0,0:57:33.70,0:57:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a boiled potato like people have put Dialogue: 0,0:57:35.35,0:57:42.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gone on these potato diets and III Dialogue: 0,0:57:38.79,0:57:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potatoes sometimes it's pretty filling Dialogue: 0,0:57:42.37,0:57:45.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that's why this whole meat and Dialogue: 0,0:57:44.08,0:57:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,potatoes you know sort of thing is Dialogue: 0,0:57:45.97,0:57:51.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the me the potato is actually Dialogue: 0,0:57:48.76,0:57:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the highest foods on the satiety Dialogue: 0,0:57:51.10,0:57:55.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,index so if you eat a potato calorie for Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.38,0:57:56.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calorie you will feel more full than Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.27,0:57:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virtually anything else Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.77,0:58:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hmm it's hard to overeat boiled potatoes Dialogue: 0,0:57:59.95,0:58:05.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah baked potatoes is kind of similar Dialogue: 0,0:58:02.76,0:58:07.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's it's pretty hard to overeat that Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.50,0:58:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but again you're activating natural Dialogue: 0,0:58:07.93,0:58:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satiety mechanisms like the potato is Dialogue: 0,0:58:09.64,0:58:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pretty big it's it's gonna fill up it's Dialogue: 0,0:58:11.98,0:58:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna activate these other stretch Dialogue: 0,0:58:14.08,0:58:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,receptors it has it's almost all starch Dialogue: 0,0:58:16.69,0:58:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's very little fat very little Dialogue: 0,0:58:18.31,0:58:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,protein but it's gonna activate other Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.23,0:58:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things so the Irish for example ate tons Dialogue: 0,0:58:22.33,0:58:26.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of potatoes didn't have much of a Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.25,0:58:27.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem until recently until the 70s Dialogue: 0,0:58:26.56,0:58:30.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like everybody else Dialogue: 0,0:58:27.88,0:58:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there's there's a lot of things so Dialogue: 0,0:58:30.40,0:58:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes there's carbohydrates but what's Dialogue: 0,0:58:35.35,0:58:40.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really important is the insulin because Dialogue: 0,0:58:36.61,0:58:43.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can eat a sort of low fat diet high Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.66,0:58:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in carbohydrates and still have low Dialogue: 0,0:58:43.75,0:58:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin levels and still have very Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.61,0:58:49.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little B C and that that wasn't what Dialogue: 0,0:58:47.44,0:58:52.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came out in the diet fit studied so this Dialogue: 0,0:58:49.39,0:58:54.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that study that Chris garner did a Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.06,0:58:56.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couple of weeks ago I guess it got Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.43,0:58:58.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,released and what it showed was that if Dialogue: 0,0:58:56.59,0:58:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you take people and put on a low fat Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.36,0:59:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diet and a low carb diet they did Dialogue: 0,0:58:59.95,0:59:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roughly equally but it wasn't just any Dialogue: 0,0:59:03.28,0:59:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of low low fat diet it's not like Dialogue: 0,0:59:07.69,0:59:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,white bread and jam sort of thing it was Dialogue: 0,0:59:09.70,0:59:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all unprocessed foods it was all and you Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.91,0:59:19.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see that yaki had a period of Dialogue: 0,0:59:15.93,0:59:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah yeah also you weren't supposed to Dialogue: 0,0:59:19.03,0:59:24.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat all the time yeah and there were Dialogue: 0,0:59:22.21,0:59:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,another farmers market yeah exactly Dialogue: 0,0:59:24.31,0:59:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's a whole lot of stuff in there it Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.17,0:59:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn't like go out and eat some of some Dialogue: 0,0:59:29.32,0:59:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pasta and white bread yeah it was this Dialogue: 0,0:59:32.20,0:59:37.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of healthy sort of eat lots of Dialogue: 0,0:59:34.81,0:59:39.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vegetables and you know there was a Dialogue: 0,0:59:37.36,0:59:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole lot of it and I was looking at Dialogue: 0,0:59:39.61,0:59:43.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that study and I was thinking that's Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.11,0:59:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exactly what we tell people you know Dialogue: 0,0:59:43.63,0:59:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unprocessed foods because it's not Dialogue: 0,0:59:45.52,0:59:50.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply about the carbohydrates we have Dialogue: 0,0:59:47.29,0:59:52.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to move past that you have to get into Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.35,0:59:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this sort of insulin because that's the Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.21,0:59:58.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of language the body speaks if Dialogue: 0,0:59:55.24,1:00:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're speaking about carbs and proteins Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.03,1:00:02.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and stuff that's not really there's it's Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.37,1:00:04.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,closer to but it's not exactly the Dialogue: 0,1:00:02.32,1:00:07.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,language that the body understands the Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.45,1:00:09.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body responds to signals which are Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.03,1:00:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones so you wanna get your insulin Dialogue: 0,1:00:09.76,1:00:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high the body's gonna gain weight well Dialogue: 0,1:00:11.89,1:00:15.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can eat a low fat diet you can eat Dialogue: 0,1:00:13.93,1:00:17.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,low carb diet and still have the same Dialogue: 0,1:00:15.79,1:00:19.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effect on insulin so that's where I Dialogue: 0,1:00:17.29,1:00:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,differ from some of the people in terms Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.36,1:00:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the carb insulin hypothesis you can Dialogue: 0,1:00:21.70,1:00:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat a high protein diet for example all Dialogue: 0,1:00:23.56,1:00:27.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meat diet you can do all of these things Dialogue: 0,1:00:25.60,1:00:29.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and still get the same effect of low Dialogue: 0,1:00:27.79,1:00:31.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin and therefore less obesity less Dialogue: 0,1:00:29.80,1:00:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type-2 diabetes and that's where Dialogue: 0,1:00:31.72,1:00:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding the sort of physiology Dialogue: 0,1:00:34.02,1:00:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gets you around all these debates and Dialogue: 0,1:00:36.91,1:00:42.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know tries to understand why people Dialogue: 0,1:00:39.31,1:00:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can eat different diets and still do Dialogue: 0,1:00:42.67,1:00:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well and and that's the that's you know Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.28,1:00:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what I try and bring out in the Dialogue: 0,1:00:46.60,1:00:53.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,books is sort of the science and the Dialogue: 0,1:00:48.76,1:00:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understanding to do it yeah great I have Dialogue: 0,1:00:53.29,1:00:56.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two examples of that definitely one dive Dialogue: 0,1:00:54.94,1:00:57.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into insulin especially I didn't know Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.35,1:01:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was discovered here in Toronto Dialogue: 0,1:00:57.67,1:01:02.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah super fasting but you mentioned the Dialogue: 0,1:01:00.31,1:01:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,satiety signals at Whole Foods garner on Dialogue: 0,1:01:02.35,1:01:06.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the body and they're kind of lost in the Dialogue: 0,1:01:03.85,1:01:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,processing of food and one example of a Dialogue: 0,1:01:06.07,1:01:09.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,remedy that you talk about Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.12,1:01:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I personally am very interested in this Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.79,1:01:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as well I've been studying it for a Dialogue: 0,1:01:10.90,1:01:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while its gastric bypass or bariatric Dialogue: 0,1:01:13.00,1:01:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,surgery in the hormonal I'm not a fan of Dialogue: 0,1:01:14.92,1:01:18.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the procedure saying that it's good for Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.45,1:01:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,weight loss but admiring the mechanism Dialogue: 0,1:01:18.82,1:01:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of action through which gastric or Dialogue: 0,1:01:20.92,1:01:25.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bariatric surgery affects insulin Dialogue: 0,1:01:23.92,1:01:26.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resistance is really interesting you Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.06,1:01:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take a full-blown insulin dependent type Dialogue: 0,1:01:26.68,1:01:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2 diabetic as you know Dialogue: 0,1:01:28.24,1:01:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,12 hours after the procedure they don't Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.77,1:01:32.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need insulin because they've got Dialogue: 0,1:01:30.85,1:01:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones that you mentioned are Dialogue: 0,1:01:32.20,1:01:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upregulated with whole real food are Dialogue: 0,1:01:34.60,1:01:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,super physiologic we up regular and so Dialogue: 0,1:01:37.18,1:01:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah bariatric surgery is fascinating Dialogue: 0,1:01:39.67,1:01:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's quite successful and people Dialogue: 0,1:01:43.33,1:01:47.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,used to say well why does it work Dialogue: 0,1:01:45.25,1:01:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe it's because you cut out a big Dialogue: 0,1:01:47.20,1:01:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,swath of the stomach right you come in Dialogue: 0,1:01:49.21,1:01:52.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with like 90% of the stomach and Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.16,1:01:55.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,therefore you can't produce certain Dialogue: 0,1:01:52.51,1:01:57.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormones well the problem with that is Dialogue: 0,1:01:55.42,1:01:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you can do gastric banding where Dialogue: 0,1:01:57.37,1:02:00.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put a sort of belt around the Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.05,1:02:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stomach and cinch it really tight and Dialogue: 0,1:02:00.58,1:02:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get the same effect since you're not Dialogue: 0,1:02:02.92,1:02:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cutting out any part of the stomach then Dialogue: 0,1:02:04.54,1:02:10.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the benefits cannot be from from from Dialogue: 0,1:02:08.44,1:02:12.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cutting out the stomach and the truth is Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.09,1:02:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the the effect is simply a severe Dialogue: 0,1:02:12.79,1:02:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,caloric restriction you're basically Dialogue: 0,1:02:15.16,1:02:21.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,putting them very close to fasting as Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.46,1:02:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much as you possibly can for months at a Dialogue: 0,1:02:21.04,1:02:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time I mean they're eating so little Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.23,1:02:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're you might as well be fasting Dialogue: 0,1:02:25.00,1:02:28.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so fasting you know the whole point is Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.19,1:02:30.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get your insulin down now you're not Dialogue: 0,1:02:28.51,1:02:31.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eating you can't eat because they've cut Dialogue: 0,1:02:30.01,1:02:34.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out all your stomach and they've rewired Dialogue: 0,1:02:31.84,1:02:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your intestines so that you you know Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.30,1:02:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even if you eat food it's not getting Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.77,1:02:39.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,absorbed well what's gonna happen well Dialogue: 0,1:02:37.81,1:02:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instance gonna drop and I'm gonna keep Dialogue: 0,1:02:39.70,1:02:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dropping so what's gonna happen is that Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.65,1:02:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your body's gonna burn off all that Dialogue: 0,1:02:43.18,1:02:47.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar or not the sugar diabetes goes Dialogue: 0,1:02:45.46,1:02:49.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away bad as it burns off all that sugar Dialogue: 0,1:02:47.71,1:02:51.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it's gonna burn all that fat and Dialogue: 0,1:02:49.78,1:02:54.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guess what the weight loss is very very Dialogue: 0,1:02:51.67,1:02:55.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good so the mechanism is quite easy to Dialogue: 0,1:02:54.31,1:02:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand once you understand that it's Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.75,1:03:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really about changing the insulin which Dialogue: 0,1:02:59.05,1:03:01.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the main hormone it's not the only Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.55,1:03:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hormone that's responsible for weight Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.99,1:03:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gain cortisol is another one but for the Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.14,1:03:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most part it's about insulin so that Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.49,1:03:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,once you understand that you can see Dialogue: 0,1:03:07.99,1:03:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is why Bariatrics is so affected Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.36,1:03:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sometimes you say well this is Dialogue: 0,1:03:11.89,1:03:16.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really just medical Bariatrics all these Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.11,1:03:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting therapies is just medical Dialogue: 0,1:03:16.27,1:03:21.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bariatrics and and but it's not easy Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.91,1:03:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not fun and that's really one of Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.52,1:03:27.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the things that we try to do so we have Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.00,1:03:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a program for this which is the Dialogue: 0,1:03:27.13,1:03:33.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intensive dietary management program and Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.28,1:03:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people can join and we have sort of so Dialogue: 0,1:03:33.22,1:03:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the website is IDM program com Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.46,1:03:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you know we put out a lot of Dialogue: 0,1:03:38.44,1:03:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff for free like these sort of videos Dialogue: 0,1:03:40.86,1:03:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we do podcasts and blog I do weekly Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.68,1:03:49.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blog post and there's lots of free stuff Dialogue: 0,1:03:46.51,1:03:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if people can just get the Dialogue: 0,1:03:49.24,1:03:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,information and there's the books either Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.83,1:03:54.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that are very inexpensive or you can Dialogue: 0,1:03:53.38,1:03:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take it from the library so there's a Dialogue: 0,1:03:54.64,1:03:58.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of information out there but Dialogue: 0,1:03:57.16,1:04:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes people want a little bit more Dialogue: 0,1:03:58.72,1:04:04.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guidance so what we've done is we've Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.92,1:04:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provided sort of a little bit more Dialogue: 0,1:04:04.09,1:04:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guidance question and the answers group Dialogue: 0,1:04:06.34,1:04:10.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fast because again it's about building Dialogue: 0,1:04:08.44,1:04:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this community of people who will help Dialogue: 0,1:04:10.51,1:04:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,each other Dialogue: 0,1:04:11.20,1:04:16.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's one of the secrets of any Dialogue: 0,1:04:13.84,1:04:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of behavior change is that you do Dialogue: 0,1:04:16.48,1:04:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better in a group so whether you're Dialogue: 0,1:04:18.46,1:04:23.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at Weight Watchers or Alcoholics Dialogue: 0,1:04:20.53,1:04:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anonymous the point is that changing Dialogue: 0,1:04:23.62,1:04:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,behaviors is difficult to do and if you Dialogue: 0,1:04:25.99,1:04:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have people who will support you your Dialogue: 0,1:04:27.91,1:04:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,success rate is going to be much much Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.35,1:04:33.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,higher so we're trying to put together a Dialogue: 0,1:04:31.57,1:04:37.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,community in our membership program that Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.82,1:04:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people can join for a fee and then get Dialogue: 0,1:04:37.06,1:04:40.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guidance from sort of trained Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.92,1:04:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professionals that they need they get Dialogue: 0,1:04:40.39,1:04:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sort of extra extra help that they Dialogue: 0,1:04:43.81,1:04:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need to do it if you can do it on your Dialogue: 0,1:04:45.28,1:04:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own great but most people they get out Dialogue: 0,1:04:47.29,1:04:50.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they start fasting and then some Dialogue: 0,1:04:49.09,1:04:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctor tells them oh god you're gonna Dialogue: 0,1:04:50.89,1:04:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kill yourself and then they're done and Dialogue: 0,1:04:52.72,1:04:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then it's like oh but you know you could Dialogue: 0,1:04:55.18,1:04:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have gained so much with it and then we Dialogue: 0,1:04:57.16,1:05:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also have sort of an additional program Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.59,1:05:03.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people will provide sort of small Dialogue: 0,1:05:01.42,1:05:05.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,group sort of in groups of three or four Dialogue: 0,1:05:03.31,1:05:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of course anytime you do that it's much Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.80,1:05:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more expensive because you're getting Dialogue: 0,1:05:06.79,1:05:10.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of personalized care but at least Dialogue: 0,1:05:08.29,1:05:13.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's available for you so there's we try Dialogue: 0,1:05:10.96,1:05:15.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and provide sort of everything from the Dialogue: 0,1:05:13.15,1:05:18.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,free stuff to the books and the podcast Dialogue: 0,1:05:15.16,1:05:20.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you know the stuff we're doing here Dialogue: 0,1:05:18.16,1:05:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the you know so that you know I hope Dialogue: 0,1:05:20.83,1:05:25.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people can just listen and do it Dialogue: 0,1:05:23.20,1:05:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,themselves but hey if you if you need Dialogue: 0,1:05:25.21,1:05:28.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some help or we're also here we can give Dialogue: 0,1:05:27.16,1:05:31.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you more help if you need it the Dialogue: 0,1:05:28.81,1:05:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,membership site is $39 a month I think Dialogue: 0,1:05:31.63,1:05:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's like we do these group files Dialogue: 0,1:05:33.46,1:05:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are very popular so that people Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.68,1:05:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fast all together for three or four days Dialogue: 0,1:05:38.23,1:05:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's not necessarily you do the full Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.88,1:05:44.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four days maybe you do a 24-hour fast Dialogue: 0,1:05:42.10,1:05:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for three days or Dialogue: 0,1:05:44.35,1:05:48.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but because you're doing it with a group Dialogue: 0,1:05:45.85,1:05:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of sort of supportive people it's easier Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.91,1:05:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then you get the benefit and and in Dialogue: 0,1:05:51.37,1:05:54.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,school we understand this we call it Dialogue: 0,1:05:53.05,1:05:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peer pressure and it's got a negative Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.97,1:06:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,connotation in as adults it's called Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.54,1:06:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peer support because it's like we're Dialogue: 0,1:06:00.16,1:06:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to change behavior and you're Dialogue: 0,1:06:01.51,1:06:06.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,joining a group to get the support that Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.58,1:06:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you need and guess what it's like very Dialogue: 0,1:06:06.34,1:06:10.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very important it's it's actually like Dialogue: 0,1:06:08.62,1:06:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it sounds like it's it's one of these Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.81,1:06:14.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of throw away things but it's Dialogue: 0,1:06:12.40,1:06:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually as we started doing our program Dialogue: 0,1:06:14.50,1:06:18.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've been doing it for about five years Dialogue: 0,1:06:15.85,1:06:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now that was one of the sort of keys to Dialogue: 0,1:06:18.76,1:06:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,success was getting people into the Dialogue: 0,1:06:20.68,1:06:24.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,small groups and into the bigger groups Dialogue: 0,1:06:22.57,1:06:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people can talk about fasting Dialogue: 0,1:06:24.70,1:06:30.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without getting laughed at essentially Dialogue: 0,1:06:27.16,1:06:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's been very important and then Dialogue: 0,1:06:30.88,1:06:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I realized of course that's the whole Dialogue: 0,1:06:32.83,1:06:37.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,secret of Weight Watchers or the biggest Dialogue: 0,1:06:35.05,1:06:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oprah led company now but their diets Dialogue: 0,1:06:37.99,1:06:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing special Dialogue: 0,1:06:38.98,1:06:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a decent-enough diet but you could Dialogue: 0,1:06:41.17,1:06:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have gotten that diet anywhere right you Dialogue: 0,1:06:43.00,1:06:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could have gone to any book and gotten Dialogue: 0,1:06:45.67,1:06:51.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that diet the secret sauce was the peer Dialogue: 0,1:06:48.49,1:06:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support Alcoholics Anonymous again peer Dialogue: 0,1:06:51.88,1:06:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support being out there and we're Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.89,1:06:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fighting such a big fight because the Dialogue: 0,1:06:55.57,1:07:01.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the conventional dietary advice is to Dialogue: 0,1:06:57.97,1:07:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat sort of eight ten times a day eat Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.09,1:07:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these low fat foods so we're sort of Dialogue: 0,1:07:04.60,1:07:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,swimming upstream in terms of our advice Dialogue: 0,1:07:06.58,1:07:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we generally advise people to Dialogue: 0,1:07:08.71,1:07:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat sort of whole unprocessed real foods Dialogue: 0,1:07:11.05,1:07:15.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,often low carbs or not necessarily and Dialogue: 0,1:07:13.66,1:07:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then intermittent fasting whether it's Dialogue: 0,1:07:15.58,1:07:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,less than a day or more than a day and Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.65,1:07:22.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's where people it gets people's Dialogue: 0,1:07:19.78,1:07:24.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of goat up is that the in term in Dialogue: 0,1:07:22.54,1:07:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fasting really scares a lot of these Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.94,1:07:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people and then they get scared out of Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.40,1:07:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it right away they don't have that peer Dialogue: 0,1:07:29.05,1:07:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,support so we're trying to build that in Dialogue: 0,1:07:30.76,1:07:35.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into our program and if that's what you Dialogue: 0,1:07:33.34,1:07:38.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,need you know we're hopefully providing Dialogue: 0,1:07:35.05,1:07:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it at a fairly reasonable price I mean Dialogue: 0,1:07:38.56,1:07:43.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you're if you're skipping a meal I Dialogue: 0,1:07:40.06,1:07:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean that that's like the cost of you're Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.84,1:07:48.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna come out ahead if you do that Dialogue: 0,1:07:45.88,1:07:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,totally that's awesome IDM program comm Dialogue: 0,1:07:48.73,1:07:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program Dialogue: 0,1:07:49.99,1:07:53.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the show notes in blue this video and Dialogue: 0,1:07:51.55,1:07:54.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then let's kind of finish off on the Dialogue: 0,1:07:53.23,1:07:56.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book a little bit a few things a few Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.49,1:07:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I remember like they're inked in my Dialogue: 0,1:07:56.65,1:08:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,head you can't fix a dietary disease Dialogue: 0,1:07:59.11,1:08:03.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with medicine I might box out a little Dialogue: 0,1:08:01.45,1:08:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit but I think that's really important Dialogue: 0,1:08:03.37,1:08:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you know a lot of people don't Dialogue: 0,1:08:05.02,1:08:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,realize that traditional medical system Dialogue: 0,1:08:07.81,1:08:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the solution and for a lot of Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.00,1:08:13.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditionally trained practitioners is Dialogue: 0,1:08:11.35,1:08:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin more and more insulin and what Dialogue: 0,1:08:13.93,1:08:19.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens when you get more and more Dialogue: 0,1:08:14.98,1:08:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin yeah the problem is that type 2 Dialogue: 0,1:08:19.21,1:08:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes is he really misunderstood Dialogue: 0,1:08:23.89,1:08:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease by the doctors then what they Dialogue: 0,1:08:29.02,1:08:34.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't understand is that they're Dialogue: 0,1:08:31.30,1:08:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treating sort of the blood glucose well Dialogue: 0,1:08:34.39,1:08:39.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the blood glucose or blood sugar is Dialogue: 0,1:08:36.85,1:08:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high so they try and get it down if you Dialogue: 0,1:08:39.37,1:08:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,give insulin well does that get rid of Dialogue: 0,1:08:43.51,1:08:48.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sugar and the answer is no you Dialogue: 0,1:08:46.33,1:08:52.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,simply the insulin takes that sugar Dialogue: 0,1:08:48.58,1:08:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it simply crams it into your liver okay Dialogue: 0,1:08:52.27,1:08:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then liver turns it into factor de Dialogue: 0,1:08:54.37,1:08:59.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,novo lipogenesis or sends that sugars Dialogue: 0,1:08:56.56,1:09:01.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everywhere else so sugar goes into your Dialogue: 0,1:08:59.29,1:09:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eyes and your liver into your nerves Dialogue: 0,1:09:01.84,1:09:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into your legs into your heart and what Dialogue: 0,1:09:04.24,1:09:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens well what happens over decades Dialogue: 0,1:09:07.60,1:09:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that as you keep cramming the sugar Dialogue: 0,1:09:09.97,1:09:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from that blood you had excess trigger Dialogue: 0,1:09:11.56,1:09:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the blood you never got rid of it but Dialogue: 0,1:09:13.06,1:09:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you took insulin to cram it into your Dialogue: 0,1:09:14.53,1:09:19.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,body your body sort of just blows up Dialogue: 0,1:09:17.08,1:09:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with way too much sugar and then every Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.48,1:09:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of your Anatomy just rots so you're Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.32,1:09:27.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna go blind and you get heart attacks Dialogue: 0,1:09:25.12,1:09:29.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get strokes and get nerve damage and Dialogue: 0,1:09:27.22,1:09:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get amputations you get diabetic foot Dialogue: 0,1:09:29.20,1:09:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infections and it's like why do Dialogue: 0,1:09:30.73,1:09:36.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetics get infections that nobody Dialogue: 0,1:09:33.19,1:09:38.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else in the whole world gets go is there Dialogue: 0,1:09:36.19,1:09:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar there's so much sugar sitting Dialogue: 0,1:09:38.08,1:09:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around in that foot then you get Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.00,1:09:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,infections like yeast infections that Dialogue: 0,1:09:42.49,1:09:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,love the sugar and it's crazy because Dialogue: 0,1:09:46.51,1:09:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it means is that type 2 diabetes is Dialogue: 0,1:09:49.57,1:09:54.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essentially being treated completely Dialogue: 0,1:09:51.78,1:09:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,incorrectly we're treating the blood Dialogue: 0,1:09:54.79,1:10:00.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glucose so we know the blood glucose is Dialogue: 0,1:09:57.07,1:10:02.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high because of the type 2 diabetes but Dialogue: 0,1:10:00.22,1:10:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the blood glucose is not the disease Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.29,1:10:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the symptom so if you treat the symptom Dialogue: 0,1:10:05.47,1:10:09.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but don't treat the disease then you're Dialogue: 0,1:10:08.17,1:10:11.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not going to get anywhere it's Dialogue: 0,1:10:09.49,1:10:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,symptomatic treatment and that's the Dialogue: 0,1:10:11.86,1:10:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real problem we are treating the symptom Dialogue: 0,1:10:14.44,1:10:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and pretending like that's the real Dialogue: 0,1:10:16.45,1:10:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease so yes we got the blood glucose Dialogue: 0,1:10:18.88,1:10:23.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down have you treated the type 2 Dialogue: 0,1:10:21.07,1:10:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes with your insulin and the Dialogue: 0,1:10:23.14,1:10:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer is no well everybody knows that Dialogue: 0,1:10:26.38,1:10:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you lose weight your diabetes gets Dialogue: 0,1:10:28.00,1:10:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better Dialogue: 0,1:10:28.54,1:10:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so insulin makes you gain weight so Dialogue: 0,1:10:31.74,1:10:36.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right your diabetes not getting better Dialogue: 0,1:10:34.12,1:10:38.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's getting worse and the whole point Dialogue: 0,1:10:36.73,1:10:41.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that you simply can't take the sugar Dialogue: 0,1:10:38.80,1:10:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in your blood and cram it away where you Dialogue: 0,1:10:41.11,1:10:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't see it and pretend you're better Dialogue: 0,1:10:42.52,1:10:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you got to get rid of that sugar so in Dialogue: 0,1:10:45.61,1:10:51.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,essence the simplest way to understand Dialogue: 0,1:10:49.18,1:10:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type-2 diabetes is that there's just too Dialogue: 0,1:10:51.79,1:10:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much sugar in the body the body is Dialogue: 0,1:10:54.10,1:10:58.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overfilled with sugar well if it's Dialogue: 0,1:10:57.04,1:11:00.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,overfilled with sugar then you just Dialogue: 0,1:10:58.93,1:11:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gotta get rid of the sugar what do you Dialogue: 0,1:11:00.82,1:11:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do 1 don't put more sugar in eat a low Dialogue: 0,1:11:03.52,1:11:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carbohydrate diet and number 2 burn it Dialogue: 0,1:11:07.36,1:11:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all off and that's intermittent fasting Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.53,1:11:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so what we've done is we've taken this Dialogue: 0,1:11:13.54,1:11:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dietary disease and instead of treating Dialogue: 0,1:11:16.96,1:11:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the root cause of it which is the diet Dialogue: 0,1:11:18.72,1:11:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're eating too much too much Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.37,1:11:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carbohydrates predominantly because we Dialogue: 0,1:11:23.29,1:11:28.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were told to and we're eating too too Dialogue: 0,1:11:25.42,1:11:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many times too frequently but what we've Dialogue: 0,1:11:28.63,1:11:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done is instead of treating the actual Dialogue: 0,1:11:30.37,1:11:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cause of it we tried to drug it we're Dialogue: 0,1:11:34.33,1:11:38.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to drug these people back to Dialogue: 0,1:11:35.74,1:11:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health then we're not treating what was Dialogue: 0,1:11:38.41,1:11:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the actual problem in the first place Dialogue: 0,1:11:39.85,1:11:45.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we wonder why is everybody Dialogue: 0,1:11:42.25,1:11:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting worse in the worst part is that Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.10,1:11:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the answer that most specialist Dialogue: 0,1:11:48.76,1:11:53.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,researchers give is that type 2 diabetes Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.55,1:11:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is just like that it's a chronic and Dialogue: 0,1:11:53.59,1:11:57.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progressive disease it's like no it's Dialogue: 0,1:11:56.20,1:12:00.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chronic and progressive because you Dialogue: 0,1:11:57.61,1:12:02.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treated it completely wrong the disease Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.16,1:12:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is actually reversible we know that Dialogue: 0,1:12:02.74,1:12:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anybody who loses weight the diabetes Dialogue: 0,1:12:04.54,1:12:08.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,refers to as we knew that from Dialogue: 0,1:12:05.53,1:12:10.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bariatrics you can take the most severe Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.32,1:12:13.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type 2 diabetic and within 2 weeks Dialogue: 0,1:12:10.87,1:12:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'll be off of all their insulin for Dialogue: 0,1:12:13.21,1:12:15.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.16,1:12:19.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they're basically burning it all Dialogue: 0,1:12:15.81,1:12:20.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off because they're fasting it's not Dialogue: 0,1:12:19.14,1:12:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really hard to understand if you don't Dialogue: 0,1:12:20.79,1:12:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eat you're gonna burn off that sugar Dialogue: 0,1:12:22.71,1:12:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your blood sugar will drop if your blood Dialogue: 0,1:12:24.42,1:12:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar drops you don't need to take Dialogue: 0,1:12:25.65,1:12:29.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin well that's not so hard to Dialogue: 0,1:12:27.45,1:12:31.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand but now you're dealing with Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.25,1:12:34.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the actual problem of sugar overload as Dialogue: 0,1:12:31.97,1:12:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opposed to trying to give more insulin Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.86,1:12:43.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so here we have a situation which is Dialogue: 0,1:12:38.75,1:12:45.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of mind-boggling that 99% of Dialogue: 0,1:12:43.23,1:12:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetics type 2 diabetics in this Dialogue: 0,1:12:45.87,1:12:52.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,country in this world are actually being Dialogue: 0,1:12:49.14,1:12:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treated I think completely incorrectly Dialogue: 0,1:12:52.50,1:12:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's why since everybody's getting Dialogue: 0,1:12:55.23,1:12:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worse Dialogue: 0,1:12:55.92,1:12:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the doctors say well it's chronic and Dialogue: 0,1:12:57.72,1:13:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progressive because I gave them insulin Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.31,1:13:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they got worse Dialogue: 0,1:13:00.24,1:13:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so therefore the disease must be like Dialogue: 0,1:13:02.13,1:13:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that yet at the same time knowing that Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.28,1:13:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this disease cannot possibly like that Dialogue: 0,1:13:08.01,1:13:11.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because we just proved it with our Dialogue: 0,1:13:09.69,1:13:14.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bariatric surgery that we could take Dialogue: 0,1:13:11.64,1:13:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this guy do something to him which is Dialogue: 0,1:13:14.25,1:13:19.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically fast them for like three Dialogue: 0,1:13:15.90,1:13:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,months and make him completely better Dialogue: 0,1:13:19.01,1:13:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody who has type 2 diabetes is Dialogue: 0,1:13:21.78,1:13:27.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reversible except up until the very late Dialogue: 0,1:13:24.42,1:13:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stage that's a fact that we've sort of Dialogue: 0,1:13:27.81,1:13:32.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proven with our bariatric surgery and Dialogue: 0,1:13:30.12,1:13:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's a fact that we already knew because Dialogue: 0,1:13:32.94,1:13:37.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that if your friend loses 50 Dialogue: 0,1:13:35.76,1:13:40.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pounds he's gonna get off his diabetic Dialogue: 0,1:13:37.74,1:13:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medication no doctors gonna say oh I Dialogue: 0,1:13:40.74,1:13:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wonder why that happened it's like well Dialogue: 0,1:13:42.90,1:13:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously right but so we know this for Dialogue: 0,1:13:46.41,1:13:49.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a fact that it's a reversible disease Dialogue: 0,1:13:48.06,1:13:50.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yet we pretend it's chronic from Dialogue: 0,1:13:49.71,1:13:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,progressive because we've been doing Dialogue: 0,1:13:50.64,1:13:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such a bad job because we've been using Dialogue: 0,1:13:52.29,1:13:57.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wrong treatment interesting when in Dialogue: 0,1:13:56.25,1:13:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your career so you've been practicing Dialogue: 0,1:13:57.48,1:14:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medicine for over 20 years right about Dialogue: 0,1:13:59.04,1:14:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 years and you talked about in the Dialogue: 0,1:14:01.23,1:14:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book like I know how to make people fat Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.85,1:14:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know you're in some system give them Dialogue: 0,1:14:04.62,1:14:09.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin at what point did you see enough Dialogue: 0,1:14:06.96,1:14:10.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patients gain more and more weight when Dialogue: 0,1:14:09.09,1:14:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you were falling the standard of care Dialogue: 0,1:14:10.56,1:14:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you said this can't be right well Dialogue: 0,1:14:12.87,1:14:19.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was it took a little time yeah dogmas Dialogue: 0,1:14:16.86,1:14:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very hard to break and interestingly it Dialogue: 0,1:14:19.83,1:14:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was the patients who all knew they're Dialogue: 0,1:14:21.57,1:14:25.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all like you know you gave me insulin Dialogue: 0,1:14:23.79,1:14:28.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm gaining weight like crazy here Dialogue: 0,1:14:25.87,1:14:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like how is that good and the answer is Dialogue: 0,1:14:28.39,1:14:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it wasn't good but I didn't know the Dialogue: 0,1:14:30.76,1:14:36.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answer so I said well you know it's just Dialogue: 0,1:14:32.56,1:14:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the way it is I mean that's that's what Dialogue: 0,1:14:36.01,1:14:40.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said that's what everyone else said Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.42,1:14:42.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too but at some point I mean it was Dialogue: 0,1:14:40.77,1:14:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,2008-2009 that we started getting some Dialogue: 0,1:14:42.94,1:14:47.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the data that really showed that Dialogue: 0,1:14:44.98,1:14:49.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,giving insulin is not a good idea to Dialogue: 0,1:14:47.41,1:14:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,type two diabetics which when you look Dialogue: 0,1:14:49.75,1:14:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back at it is completely sort of Dialogue: 0,1:14:53.53,1:14:59.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rational that is we know in type 2 Dialogue: 0,1:14:55.48,1:15:02.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes that insulin levels are high so Dialogue: 0,1:14:59.59,1:15:04.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why are you giving more insulin I mean Dialogue: 0,1:15:02.53,1:15:06.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn't that like giving alcohol to an Dialogue: 0,1:15:04.51,1:15:08.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alcoholic how do you think they're gonna Dialogue: 0,1:15:06.37,1:15:10.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get better if you give alcohol to an Dialogue: 0,1:15:08.80,1:15:13.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,alcoholic they're they're shaking might Dialogue: 0,1:15:10.93,1:15:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get better but their alcoholism which is Dialogue: 0,1:15:13.39,1:15:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the actual disease gets worse so it's Dialogue: 0,1:15:16.57,1:15:20.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same thing you give insulin to Dialogue: 0,1:15:18.58,1:15:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody has too much insulin the blood Dialogue: 0,1:15:20.20,1:15:23.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar gets better but the diabetes gets Dialogue: 0,1:15:22.78,1:15:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worse Dialogue: 0,1:15:23.44,1:15:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's what we've been doing we've Dialogue: 0,1:15:25.81,1:15:33.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been treating these addicts with heroin Dialogue: 0,1:15:29.05,1:15:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like oh my god and what's scary is Dialogue: 0,1:15:33.49,1:15:38.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that people are still doing it today Dialogue: 0,1:15:35.50,1:15:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now and pretending it's the right Dialogue: 0,1:15:38.74,1:15:46.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treatment it's like oh okay well that's Dialogue: 0,1:15:43.36,1:15:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not a good there's a lot a good idea and Dialogue: 0,1:15:46.03,1:15:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's like no wonder everybody's Dialogue: 0,1:15:47.65,1:15:50.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting worse no wonder the health of Dialogue: 0,1:15:49.30,1:15:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the nation is getting worse because Dialogue: 0,1:15:50.77,1:15:56.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've sort of focused on the wrong sort Dialogue: 0,1:15:54.52,1:15:59.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of quadrant which is we think it's a Dialogue: 0,1:15:56.23,1:16:00.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drug problem but it's a diet problem we Dialogue: 0,1:15:59.05,1:16:02.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took type 1 diabetes which is where Dialogue: 0,1:16:00.97,1:16:05.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin very low so if insulin is very Dialogue: 0,1:16:02.92,1:16:08.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,low then give insulin that's a good Dialogue: 0,1:16:05.53,1:16:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treatment citizens very high don't give Dialogue: 0,1:16:08.71,1:16:12.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin that's not a good treatment yeah Dialogue: 0,1:16:10.39,1:16:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know ladies you said not solving the Dialogue: 0,1:16:12.10,1:16:15.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,root cause of the problem it's not an Dialogue: 0,1:16:13.48,1:16:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insulin deficiency syndrome as type 1 Dialogue: 0,1:16:15.85,1:16:19.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes is you have two receptor gosh Dialogue: 0,1:16:18.40,1:16:21.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we could go on and talk all about this Dialogue: 0,1:16:19.99,1:16:23.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff I really want to commend you for Dialogue: 0,1:16:21.19,1:16:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all your great work both the books the Dialogue: 0,1:16:23.05,1:16:27.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obesity code really changed my mind on a Dialogue: 0,1:16:25.24,1:16:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of different things particularly Dialogue: 0,1:16:27.01,1:16:31.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the time the latency how long Dialogue: 0,1:16:29.29,1:16:32.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,someone has been overweight that that Dialogue: 0,1:16:31.39,1:16:34.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's going to affect their weight loss Dialogue: 0,1:16:32.80,1:16:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I think that's something that people Dialogue: 0,1:16:34.03,1:16:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really need to think about you know Dialogue: 0,1:16:35.98,1:16:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because if they see the lean purse Dialogue: 0,1:16:38.23,1:16:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and get shredded for spring break and Dialogue: 0,1:16:39.85,1:16:44.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like why I want to do that but they've Dialogue: 0,1:16:41.44,1:16:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been overweight for 35 years so we need Dialogue: 0,1:16:44.47,1:16:47.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be realized and that calorie three Dialogue: 0,1:16:45.91,1:16:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theories simply can't explain that Dialogue: 0,1:16:47.77,1:16:54.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the calorie theory would say Dialogue: 0,1:16:50.95,1:16:57.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you've been overweight for ten Dialogue: 0,1:16:54.52,1:17:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years or ten days it's the same yeah you Dialogue: 0,1:16:57.58,1:17:03.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,create that caloric deficit and you're Dialogue: 0,1:17:00.88,1:17:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both is a lose weight yeah and everybody Dialogue: 0,1:17:03.61,1:17:07.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knows that's not gonna happen right Dialogue: 0,1:17:05.65,1:17:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet we pretend oh yeah of course of Dialogue: 0,1:17:07.99,1:17:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course it's all about calories it's like Dialogue: 0,1:17:09.58,1:17:12.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what are you like do you live in the Dialogue: 0,1:17:10.99,1:17:15.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real world like do you actually treat Dialogue: 0,1:17:12.49,1:17:17.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people because everybody knows that that Dialogue: 0,1:17:15.52,1:17:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guy who's been overweight for thirty Dialogue: 0,1:17:17.89,1:17:24.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years that those pounds ain't coming off Dialogue: 0,1:17:20.02,1:17:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah like in ten days like like like the Dialogue: 0,1:17:24.01,1:17:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,20 year old who gained a few pounds from Dialogue: 0,1:17:26.20,1:17:30.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few beers at spring break right so Dialogue: 0,1:17:28.87,1:17:31.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah absolutely that's that's that's the Dialogue: 0,1:17:30.76,1:17:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,key to understanding and the Dialogue: 0,1:17:31.81,1:17:36.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,physiologies all been there but it's Dialogue: 0,1:17:34.00,1:17:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been sort of distorted by all of this Dialogue: 0,1:17:36.91,1:17:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of you know other interests like Dialogue: 0,1:17:42.07,1:17:47.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particularly food companies for example Dialogue: 0,1:17:44.34,1:17:51.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugary beverage companies who want the Dialogue: 0,1:17:47.44,1:17:54.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,calorie theory to be correct and this is Dialogue: 0,1:17:51.04,1:17:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the things that you know we're Dialogue: 0,1:17:54.10,1:17:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really looking to get into is sort of Dialogue: 0,1:17:57.22,1:18:03.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advocacy to get the sort of conflicts of Dialogue: 0,1:17:59.71,1:18:06.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interest out of medicine having been in Dialogue: 0,1:18:03.64,1:18:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medicine I realized that there's Dialogue: 0,1:18:06.13,1:18:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually all these problems like there's Dialogue: 0,1:18:09.28,1:18:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not just pharmaceuticals but you know Dialogue: 0,1:18:11.98,1:18:16.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the research so we all pretend we live Dialogue: 0,1:18:14.05,1:18:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this world of evidence-based medicine Dialogue: 0,1:18:16.50,1:18:23.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the problem is if all the met if all the Dialogue: 0,1:18:20.17,1:18:25.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidence is corrupt then evidence-based Dialogue: 0,1:18:23.56,1:18:27.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medicine is also going to be corrupt so Dialogue: 0,1:18:25.69,1:18:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if all your evidence is produced by Dialogue: 0,1:18:27.49,1:18:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pharmaceuticals is produced by people Dialogue: 0,1:18:29.02,1:18:34.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,getting paid by the sugar industry for Dialogue: 0,1:18:31.66,1:18:36.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,example well you're gonna think sugar is Dialogue: 0,1:18:34.12,1:18:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fine and we have studies that prove that Dialogue: 0,1:18:36.51,1:18:42.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a funded study so if you fund a study Dialogue: 0,1:18:39.67,1:18:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you're like something like six to Dialogue: 0,1:18:42.52,1:18:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten times more likely to finding result Dialogue: 0,1:18:45.04,1:18:50.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,favoring your sponsor well that's just Dialogue: 0,1:18:47.32,1:18:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human nature so we have a guy in Toronto Dialogue: 0,1:18:50.59,1:18:54.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a dr. Stephen Piper Dialogue: 0,1:18:51.97,1:18:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is out there all the time saying Dialogue: 0,1:18:54.37,1:18:58.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugars good fructose is good it's like a Dialogue: 0,1:18:56.26,1:19:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health food like okay that's really dumb Dialogue: 0,1:18:58.90,1:19:03.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's what I'm thinking and then of Dialogue: 0,1:19:01.15,1:19:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course in the newspaper in the National Dialogue: 0,1:19:03.19,1:19:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Post last year which is our national Dialogue: 0,1:19:05.20,1:19:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newspaper it's like oh yeah he takes Dialogue: 0,1:19:06.79,1:19:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of thousands of dollars from Dialogue: 0,1:19:08.44,1:19:12.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sugar industry coca-cola and Dialogue: 0,1:19:10.48,1:19:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody I'm like okay makes sense well Dialogue: 0,1:19:12.73,1:19:17.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here's this makes total sense and here's Dialogue: 0,1:19:15.55,1:19:19.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sugar industry funding the Dialogue: 0,1:19:17.17,1:19:21.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University of Toronto which is happily Dialogue: 0,1:19:19.93,1:19:24.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,taking all this cash they're taking all Dialogue: 0,1:19:21.85,1:19:28.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this money and producing shoddy research Dialogue: 0,1:19:24.79,1:19:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like I don't blame the sugar Dialogue: 0,1:19:28.24,1:19:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company the sugar company or the Dialogue: 0,1:19:31.27,1:19:36.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pharmaceutical or the big food company I Dialogue: 0,1:19:33.37,1:19:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't blame them at all because their Dialogue: 0,1:19:36.87,1:19:42.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,responsibility is to sell sugary Dialogue: 0,1:19:39.97,1:19:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beverage that's their responsibility to Dialogue: 0,1:19:42.73,1:19:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the company to their shareholders that's Dialogue: 0,1:19:45.31,1:19:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their whole goal it's out there coke is Dialogue: 0,1:19:47.92,1:19:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there to sell coke that's his job the Dialogue: 0,1:19:50.95,1:19:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problem is that we allow coke to pay the Dialogue: 0,1:19:55.03,1:20:01.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University of Toronto millions of Dialogue: 0,1:19:58.00,1:20:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dollars to produce crappy research why Dialogue: 0,1:20:01.51,1:20:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do we allow that if you give a New York Dialogue: 0,1:20:05.56,1:20:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,City policeman a cold drink he could get Dialogue: 0,1:20:10.42,1:20:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fired because it's a conflict of Dialogue: 0,1:20:13.12,1:20:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interest if you give the judge sort of a Dialogue: 0,1:20:16.96,1:20:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slice of pizza he or she could get fired Dialogue: 0,1:20:20.14,1:20:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for taking that slice of pizza and we Dialogue: 0,1:20:23.20,1:20:27.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all say of course you can't bribe a Dialogue: 0,1:20:25.57,1:20:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,judge whether it's a slice of pizza or a Dialogue: 0,1:20:27.76,1:20:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,car it's the same principle mmm the Dialogue: 0,1:20:31.09,1:20:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reciprocity exactly because when I give Dialogue: 0,1:20:34.33,1:20:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you something you're gonna feel better Dialogue: 0,1:20:35.86,1:20:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards me Dialogue: 0,1:20:36.88,1:20:42.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's all human nature so we say okay I Dialogue: 0,1:20:39.87,1:20:44.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand this everybody understands Dialogue: 0,1:20:42.07,1:20:46.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this so therefore you are not nobody is Dialogue: 0,1:20:44.53,1:20:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed to give policeman nobody's Dialogue: 0,1:20:46.93,1:20:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed to give judges anything but we Dialogue: 0,1:20:50.53,1:20:54.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say oh yeah if you're a big company you Dialogue: 0,1:20:52.72,1:20:56.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can give doctors however much money you Dialogue: 0,1:20:54.28,1:20:58.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want so you look at a journal like the Dialogue: 0,1:20:56.47,1:21:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Journal of the American car Dialogue: 0,1:20:58.44,1:21:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,College of Cardiology and the editors Dialogue: 0,1:21:01.89,1:21:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which decide which journals got Dialogue: 0,1:21:03.54,1:21:11.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published you know what everything is Dialogue: 0,1:21:07.17,1:21:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on average they're taking each over four Dialogue: 0,1:21:11.31,1:21:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundred thousand dollars a year from Dialogue: 0,1:21:14.19,1:21:18.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,companies and it's like okay I don't Dialogue: 0,1:21:17.04,1:21:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blame the company the company if it if Dialogue: 0,1:21:18.93,1:21:23.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it means selling more stuff that's what Dialogue: 0,1:21:21.18,1:21:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they should be doing the question is why Dialogue: 0,1:21:23.37,1:21:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do we allow that to happen when it Dialogue: 0,1:21:26.64,1:21:31.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doesn't apply to anybody else Dialogue: 0,1:21:28.41,1:21:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't give four hundred thousand Dialogue: 0,1:21:31.32,1:21:35.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dollars to a New York Times journalist Dialogue: 0,1:21:33.27,1:21:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they will get fired by the New York Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.61,1:21:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Times they will absolutely get fired you Dialogue: 0,1:21:38.67,1:21:42.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't go to some company Dialogue: 0,1:21:40.29,1:21:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll call big companies have this rule I Dialogue: 0,1:21:42.39,1:21:48.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't go to the Brant bank manager and Dialogue: 0,1:21:45.81,1:21:50.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say oh hey here's ten thousand bucks Dialogue: 0,1:21:48.06,1:21:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's gonna give me a loan right he's Dialogue: 0,1:21:50.25,1:21:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gonna get fired or she's gonna get fired Dialogue: 0,1:21:53.06,1:22:00.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everywhere and in in we know this we put Dialogue: 0,1:21:57.33,1:22:04.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rules on it but yet when it comes to our Dialogue: 0,1:22:00.39,1:22:06.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,health we say hey dr. Stephen Piper you Dialogue: 0,1:22:04.11,1:22:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can take here's a couple here's $500,000 Dialogue: 0,1:22:06.93,1:22:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just do some research on why sugar is Dialogue: 0,1:22:09.45,1:22:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good for you and he produces it and then Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.03,1:22:15.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people come out and say well the Dialogue: 0,1:22:13.47,1:22:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidence says that sugar is good for us Dialogue: 0,1:22:15.72,1:22:21.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like isn't that the most ridiculous Dialogue: 0,1:22:18.27,1:22:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation you've ever heard this is one Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.69,1:22:25.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the things that really has to get out Dialogue: 0,1:22:23.55,1:22:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there because if you have differences of Dialogue: 0,1:22:25.41,1:22:29.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opinion between scientists that's fine Dialogue: 0,1:22:28.08,1:22:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's how science works everybody has a Dialogue: 0,1:22:29.73,1:22:32.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different opinion I don't mind that's a Dialogue: 0,1:22:31.05,1:22:35.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look the vegans have a different opinion Dialogue: 0,1:22:32.91,1:22:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than I do that's fine the problem is Dialogue: 0,1:22:35.79,1:22:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you get all these sort of Dialogue: 0,1:22:37.71,1:22:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commercial interests in it but it's not Dialogue: 0,1:22:39.48,1:22:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a problem for the commercial interests I Dialogue: 0,1:22:42.03,1:22:46.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean the drug companies they're allowed Dialogue: 0,1:22:44.58,1:22:48.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do it so they should do it and they Dialogue: 0,1:22:46.17,1:22:51.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will do it because that's what they are Dialogue: 0,1:22:48.09,1:22:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stated their stated goal is the stated Dialogue: 0,1:22:51.18,1:22:56.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goal is to sell more drug right what we Dialogue: 0,1:22:54.36,1:22:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have to do is we have to be on our you Dialogue: 0,1:22:56.97,1:23:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know political you have to get political Dialogue: 0,1:22:59.52,1:23:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really say okay we shouldn't Dialogue: 0,1:23:02.13,1:23:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowing any of this anybody who teaches Dialogue: 0,1:23:04.34,1:23:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students medical students teaches at the Dialogue: 0,1:23:08.04,1:23:11.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,university it's not allowed to take Dialogue: 0,1:23:09.69,1:23:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money like Dialogue: 0,1:23:11.45,1:23:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it seems like a no-brainer yeah Dialogue: 0,1:23:15.54,1:23:20.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they take hundreds of thousands of Dialogue: 0,1:23:17.46,1:23:24.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dollars every single one of them these Dialogue: 0,1:23:20.01,1:23:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,programs that the the pharmaceuticals Dialogue: 0,1:23:24.18,1:23:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,put out they pay a doctor fifteen Dialogue: 0,1:23:26.22,1:23:31.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundred dollars to give an hour-long Dialogue: 0,1:23:27.96,1:23:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk lots of doctors do it the more Dialogue: 0,1:23:31.05,1:23:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prominent the more money they get they Dialogue: 0,1:23:32.82,1:23:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pay editors of large journals like Dialogue: 0,1:23:35.67,1:23:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of thousands of dollars each to Dialogue: 0,1:23:38.25,1:23:42.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get their research into it the studies Dialogue: 0,1:23:40.80,1:23:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are all produced by drug companies and Dialogue: 0,1:23:42.93,1:23:47.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know that if that's the case then Dialogue: 0,1:23:45.21,1:23:50.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's more far more likely to be biased Dialogue: 0,1:23:47.60,1:23:52.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then and the whole thing and people Dialogue: 0,1:23:50.34,1:23:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,complain about oh you know it's big Dialogue: 0,1:23:52.44,1:23:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sugar and big tobacco and big meat it's Dialogue: 0,1:23:56.10,1:24:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like that's the first thing we should be Dialogue: 0,1:23:59.10,1:24:05.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing this saying we need new rules Dialogue: 0,1:24:02.54,1:24:08.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nobody's allowed to pay university Dialogue: 0,1:24:05.82,1:24:10.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,professors any kind of money you want to Dialogue: 0,1:24:08.76,1:24:12.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be a university professor you want the Dialogue: 0,1:24:10.47,1:24:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,privilege of teaching medical students Dialogue: 0,1:24:12.45,1:24:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get paid by the university you don't Dialogue: 0,1:24:15.21,1:24:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get paid by anybody else if you want to Dialogue: 0,1:24:18.27,1:24:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,write guidelines clinical guidelines for Dialogue: 0,1:24:20.97,1:24:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,diabetes clinical guidelines for Dietary Dialogue: 0,1:24:23.55,1:24:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Guidelines whatever it is anybody who Dialogue: 0,1:24:25.86,1:24:29.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writes any kind of guideline is not Dialogue: 0,1:24:27.96,1:24:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allowed to take money from anybody Dialogue: 0,1:24:29.91,1:24:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because doctors are the worst because Dialogue: 0,1:24:32.25,1:24:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they take lots of money from everybody Dialogue: 0,1:24:34.05,1:24:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they think that just disclosing it Dialogue: 0,1:24:36.66,1:24:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is fine it's like I don't care if you Dialogue: 0,1:24:39.48,1:24:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say it don't do it you can't you don't Dialogue: 0,1:24:42.33,1:24:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have a judge out there saying oh yeah Dialogue: 0,1:24:43.74,1:24:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've been paid by this this this this Dialogue: 0,1:24:46.26,1:24:52.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that so you go to these lectures and Dialogue: 0,1:24:50.10,1:24:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're terrible because you get we have Dialogue: 0,1:24:52.38,1:24:58.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,financial disclosure slides and so Dialogue: 0,1:24:56.39,1:25:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anytime you go to any lecture somebody Dialogue: 0,1:24:58.68,1:25:02.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will flash up a slide and there's like Dialogue: 0,1:25:00.15,1:25:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,15 drug companies on it that he's been Dialogue: 0,1:25:02.46,1:25:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,paid by he goes and he'll always say Dialogue: 0,1:25:05.01,1:25:09.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something like I'm not biased because Dialogue: 0,1:25:07.74,1:25:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm paid by everybody and every laughs Dialogue: 0,1:25:09.63,1:25:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm thinking oh my god yeah you guys Dialogue: 0,1:25:13.32,1:25:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't even know how crooked the whole Dialogue: 0,1:25:15.12,1:25:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,situation is because in any other sphere Dialogue: 0,1:25:18.15,1:25:23.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of life it would be completely Dialogue: 0,1:25:21.39,1:25:26.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unacceptable would it be acceptable for Dialogue: 0,1:25:23.67,1:25:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your child's teacher to be getting money Dialogue: 0,1:25:26.61,1:25:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from their nose wallah yeah absolutely Dialogue: 0,1:25:30.48,1:25:36.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not right absolutely 100% not you would Dialogue: 0,1:25:34.71,1:25:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,never stand for it I would never stand Dialogue: 0,1:25:36.39,1:25:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for it if I knew my teacher my child's Dialogue: 0,1:25:39.06,1:25:46.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teacher was being paid by coke and hey Dialogue: 0,1:25:42.41,1:25:52.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teaches them that coke is okay but yet Dialogue: 0,1:25:46.68,1:25:54.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coke can pay dr. Steven Piper lots of Dialogue: 0,1:25:52.23,1:25:56.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,money to come out and say hey sugars Dialogue: 0,1:25:54.84,1:25:58.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good for you then he teaches to the Dialogue: 0,1:25:56.43,1:26:01.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medical students hey sugar it's good for Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.56,1:26:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you which teaches you yeah that sugar is Dialogue: 0,1:26:01.35,1:26:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good for you and then you get diabetes Dialogue: 0,1:26:03.03,1:26:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and die it's like that's very wrong Dialogue: 0,1:26:07.85,1:26:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's something very wrong there and Dialogue: 0,1:26:10.68,1:26:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's one of the things I really have Dialogue: 0,1:26:12.21,1:26:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to really have to you know get the rules Dialogue: 0,1:26:15.42,1:26:20.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,changed not because they're stricter Dialogue: 0,1:26:18.06,1:26:23.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,than anybody else we need the rules same Dialogue: 0,1:26:20.31,1:26:26.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rules as everybody else and and and and Dialogue: 0,1:26:23.79,1:26:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the health of the sort of whole nation Dialogue: 0,1:26:26.37,1:26:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of depends on it we have so many of Dialogue: 0,1:26:28.50,1:26:32.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these researchers that are just on the Dialogue: 0,1:26:31.44,1:26:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,payroll Dialogue: 0,1:26:32.07,1:26:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like publishing biased so it's kind Dialogue: 0,1:26:34.71,1:26:38.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a partying note here how do you look Dialogue: 0,1:26:36.90,1:26:40.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at research then now to try and look at Dialogue: 0,1:26:38.67,1:26:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it more objectively with the idea that Dialogue: 0,1:26:40.92,1:26:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this could be funded in a different way Dialogue: 0,1:26:42.86,1:26:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah it's really hard that's why most Dialogue: 0,1:26:47.21,1:26:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most people who have understand Dialogue: 0,1:26:50.85,1:26:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidence-based medicine Dialogue: 0,1:26:52.11,1:27:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,think it's completely crap so there's Dialogue: 0,1:26:57.30,1:27:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guys like there's a former Dialogue: 0,1:27:00.45,1:27:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,editor-in-chief of the New England Dialogue: 0,1:27:02.19,1:27:09.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Journal of Medicine land said these are Dialogue: 0,1:27:05.97,1:27:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the two sort of most prominent medical Dialogue: 0,1:27:09.45,1:27:13.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,journals in the world who have both said Dialogue: 0,1:27:11.43,1:27:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah after like 20 years of being in the Dialogue: 0,1:27:13.29,1:27:18.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,business I realized that it's all crap Dialogue: 0,1:27:15.74,1:27:20.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,most of what we publish is not true Dialogue: 0,1:27:18.30,1:27:24.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's this replication bias you know Dialogue: 0,1:27:20.16,1:27:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where people try and try and juice up Dialogue: 0,1:27:24.66,1:27:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their findings so that it gets in Dialogue: 0,1:27:26.28,1:27:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,newspapers and then when they were Dialogue: 0,1:27:28.50,1:27:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to replicate the study it's like Dialogue: 0,1:27:30.21,1:27:34.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh it wasn't true at all Dialogue: 0,1:27:32.37,1:27:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they only got the result because they Dialogue: 0,1:27:34.71,1:27:39.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were trying to find a result to get in Dialogue: 0,1:27:36.93,1:27:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the newspaper sort of thing so anybody Dialogue: 0,1:27:39.60,1:27:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who actually understands evidence-based Dialogue: 0,1:27:41.88,1:27:46.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,medicine so you know that these are the Dialogue: 0,1:27:44.88,1:27:49.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of that the editors and chief the Dialogue: 0,1:27:46.44,1:27:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guys who have been there and done that Dialogue: 0,1:27:49.14,1:27:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and lived that life they've all Dialogue: 0,1:27:52.26,1:27:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basically turned their back and said Dialogue: 0,1:27:53.82,1:27:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's all just crap now and it's not that Dialogue: 0,1:27:56.34,1:28:02.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the idea is bad it's a good idea but Dialogue: 0,1:27:59.73,1:28:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what you have to do is say get all the Dialogue: 0,1:28:02.79,1:28:10.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commercial interests out of science you Dialogue: 0,1:28:06.96,1:28:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't have a drug company doing a study Dialogue: 0,1:28:10.53,1:28:16.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on their own drug and saying this is the Dialogue: 0,1:28:14.07,1:28:18.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,best thing since sliced bread everybody Dialogue: 0,1:28:16.80,1:28:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should do it and anybody who doesn't do Dialogue: 0,1:28:18.27,1:28:22.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is some Luddite who doesn't Dialogue: 0,1:28:19.71,1:28:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand evidence-based medicine it's Dialogue: 0,1:28:22.02,1:28:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like okay but there's something really Dialogue: 0,1:28:24.12,1:28:27.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wrong here Dialogue: 0,1:28:25.08,1:28:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if the heroing company is saying look at Dialogue: 0,1:28:27.99,1:28:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this study heroin everybody and and then Dialogue: 0,1:28:32.76,1:28:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came out and taught the doctors and gave Dialogue: 0,1:28:34.53,1:28:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doc there's hundreds of thousands of Dialogue: 0,1:28:36.27,1:28:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dollars to teach medical students that Dialogue: 0,1:28:38.07,1:28:45.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heroin is good for you we'd say buddy Dialogue: 0,1:28:42.20,1:28:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that study was funded by the heroin Dialogue: 0,1:28:45.18,1:28:49.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company you can't trust it but when we Dialogue: 0,1:28:47.28,1:28:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say oh that study was funded by the drug Dialogue: 0,1:28:49.53,1:29:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,company we're like yay it's like like Dialogue: 0,1:28:54.11,1:29:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,logic is just like I'm like kind of Dialogue: 0,1:29:00.06,1:29:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appalled sort of yeah with how how Dialogue: 0,1:29:03.69,1:29:08.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everything is developed in medicine and Dialogue: 0,1:29:06.21,1:29:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that logic seems to sort of play no role Dialogue: 0,1:29:08.87,1:29:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in in what we do that is you can't allow Dialogue: 0,1:29:12.75,1:29:17.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drug companies to do their own study and Dialogue: 0,1:29:15.12,1:29:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then tout their own horn and then Dialogue: 0,1:29:17.19,1:29:21.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dictate how we do medicine yeah that's Dialogue: 0,1:29:19.56,1:29:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great like you've given up you've given Dialogue: 0,1:29:21.57,1:29:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it up and why because our leaders our Dialogue: 0,1:29:24.81,1:29:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University professors are all on the Dialogue: 0,1:29:27.21,1:29:32.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,payroll it's crazy yeah it's a great Dialogue: 0,1:29:31.08,1:29:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book about biases Dialogue: 0,1:29:32.73,1:29:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decisive by the heath brothers Dan and Dialogue: 0,1:29:34.89,1:29:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,chippy and so I just noticed that I you Dialogue: 0,1:29:37.59,1:29:41.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know it's a someone who's been in Dialogue: 0,1:29:39.35,1:29:43.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the beneficiary of fasting and the Dialogue: 0,1:29:41.66,1:29:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ketogenic diet I'm very biased Pro that Dialogue: 0,1:29:43.61,1:29:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but now when I read research I try and Dialogue: 0,1:29:45.17,1:29:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really be aware of that because you find Dialogue: 0,1:29:47.21,1:29:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yourself seeking out more of the same so Dialogue: 0,1:29:49.52,1:29:52.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human nature were very very biased Dialogue: 0,1:29:51.47,1:29:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creature so you can see how this could Dialogue: 0,1:29:52.88,1:29:57.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happen but but if in terms of like kind Dialogue: 0,1:29:56.00,1:29:59.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a parting piece of advice like the Dialogue: 0,1:29:57.95,1:30:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,biggest health issue do you think that's Dialogue: 0,1:29:59.33,1:30:02.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of them that the so-called Dialogue: 0,1:30:00.92,1:30:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,evidence-based medicine is really Dialogue: 0,1:30:02.39,1:30:08.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,industry funded and yeah I think that Dialogue: 0,1:30:04.91,1:30:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's sort of a couple of things I Dialogue: 0,1:30:08.60,1:30:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mean there's from from a health Dialogue: 0,1:30:11.75,1:30:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,standpoint honestly its metabolic Dialogue: 0,1:30:14.45,1:30:18.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,syndrome obesity type 2 diabetes that's Dialogue: 0,1:30:16.43,1:30:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clearly going to be the issue of our Dialogue: 0,1:30:18.53,1:30:22.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times Dialogue: 0,1:30:19.07,1:30:25.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah it's killing tons of people carting Dialogue: 0,1:30:22.40,1:30:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fast or disease stroke cancer those are Dialogue: 0,1:30:25.16,1:30:28.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the biggest sort of three killers of Dialogue: 0,1:30:26.84,1:30:31.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Americans and they're all sort of Dialogue: 0,1:30:28.43,1:30:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,metabolic problems so the the sort of Dialogue: 0,1:30:31.70,1:30:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's sort of the biggest problem and Dialogue: 0,1:30:35.71,1:30:41.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to the sort of standard medical Dialogue: 0,1:30:38.69,1:30:44.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dogma is not great for the related issue Dialogue: 0,1:30:41.93,1:30:46.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of a lot of bias and medicine research Dialogue: 0,1:30:44.51,1:30:49.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the good news is that you have you can Dialogue: 0,1:30:46.55,1:30:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take control of your own health you know Dialogue: 0,1:30:49.19,1:30:53.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through understanding like what we're Dialogue: 0,1:30:51.05,1:30:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about do the cutting out Dialogue: 0,1:30:53.30,1:30:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,processed foods reducing the number of Dialogue: 0,1:30:55.55,1:31:00.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times that you eat intermittent fasting Dialogue: 0,1:30:57.74,1:31:03.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sort of regain sort of 90% of your Dialogue: 0,1:31:00.83,1:31:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,house from the good news from a patient Dialogue: 0,1:31:03.41,1:31:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,perspective is that yes you can do Dialogue: 0,1:31:04.82,1:31:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something about right now the larger Dialogue: 0,1:31:06.95,1:31:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,societal issue is exactly that to get Dialogue: 0,1:31:11.18,1:31:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bias out of medical science because Dialogue: 0,1:31:14.06,1:31:20.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the reason that medical science is Dialogue: 0,1:31:17.20,1:31:24.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hopelessly bad is that there's just too Dialogue: 0,1:31:20.51,1:31:27.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,much bias so if you look back at the Dialogue: 0,1:31:24.55,1:31:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1970s the obesity goes from very little Dialogue: 0,1:31:27.86,1:31:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to very high so we're worse than we were Dialogue: 0,1:31:30.80,1:31:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 1970 yeah if you look at technology Dialogue: 0,1:31:34.57,1:31:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 1970s computer is like the size Dialogue: 0,1:31:39.29,1:31:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this room it has like you know a Dialogue: 0,1:31:42.08,1:31:47.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tenth of the computing power of my Dialogue: 0,1:31:44.21,1:31:52.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,iPhone it's like that's the power of Dialogue: 0,1:31:47.39,1:31:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,human ingenuity in nutrition we've gone Dialogue: 0,1:31:52.19,1:31:56.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,backwards Dialogue: 0,1:31:53.09,1:31:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've gone we would have gone from the Dialogue: 0,1:31:56.06,1:32:00.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer the size of this room to a Dialogue: 0,1:31:58.19,1:32:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computer the size of this entire code Dialogue: 0,1:32:00.86,1:32:06.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,language yeah it's ridiculous hmm and Dialogue: 0,1:32:03.65,1:32:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's because there's too much bias we Dialogue: 0,1:32:06.41,1:32:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get people saying that sugars good for Dialogue: 0,1:32:08.30,1:32:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you I mean tobacco is the same thing for Dialogue: 0,1:32:10.22,1:32:15.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years people said no problem no problem Dialogue: 0,1:32:12.62,1:32:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why they're all on the payroll okay so Dialogue: 0,1:32:15.17,1:32:17.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we understand that for tobacco Dialogue: 0,1:32:16.67,1:32:19.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why don't we understand it for drug Dialogue: 0,1:32:17.93,1:32:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,companies for this and that and again Dialogue: 0,1:32:19.70,1:32:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not that I'm anti drug companies Dialogue: 0,1:32:21.80,1:32:27.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drug companies have a very valuable role Dialogue: 0,1:32:24.29,1:32:29.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they need to be sort of over there Dialogue: 0,1:32:27.53,1:32:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the university has to be over here Dialogue: 0,1:32:29.57,1:32:35.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you have to split them and if their Dialogue: 0,1:32:33.05,1:32:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drug is good then the university will Dialogue: 0,1:32:35.72,1:32:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say okay well your drug goes good well Dialogue: 0,1:32:37.58,1:32:41.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at least I know that you're not paying Dialogue: 0,1:32:39.35,1:32:44.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guy who's saying it's good yeah Dialogue: 0,1:32:41.92,1:32:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,again it's it's it's pure common sense Dialogue: 0,1:32:44.72,1:32:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's like we just have to change Dialogue: 0,1:32:47.12,1:32:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that to move far so that's sort of the Dialogue: 0,1:32:49.34,1:32:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,larger I think that in the end that's Dialogue: 0,1:32:51.41,1:32:55.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the larger societal issue the individual Dialogue: 0,1:32:54.38,1:32:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issue that's the biggest that's going to Dialogue: 0,1:32:55.79,1:32:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impact everybody is gonna be you know Dialogue: 0,1:32:57.80,1:33:01.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to apply the proper standards of Dialogue: 0,1:32:59.84,1:33:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nutrition in term in fasting I think Dialogue: 0,1:33:01.73,1:33:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that part has been missing for so long Dialogue: 0,1:33:04.00,1:33:07.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really until I started talking about Dialogue: 0,1:33:06.59,1:33:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it I don't think anybody was talking Dialogue: 0,1:33:07.64,1:33:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about fasting truthfully no not in not Dialogue: 0,1:33:11.33,1:33:14.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in terms of how their body builders and Dialogue: 0,1:33:13.28,1:33:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stuff but not in terms of treatment of Dialogue: 0,1:33:14.96,1:33:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disease and that kind of thing that part Dialogue: 0,1:33:17.75,1:33:20.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the biggest part for the individual Dialogue: 0,1:33:19.25,1:33:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patient but they can actually do Dialogue: 0,1:33:20.75,1:33:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something about it and that's what I Dialogue: 0,1:33:22.07,1:33:27.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hope to do with their books with the IPM Dialogue: 0,1:33:24.32,1:33:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,program and with the blog and with the Dialogue: 0,1:33:27.47,1:33:31.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,podcast and your podcast and all that Dialogue: 0,1:33:30.14,1:33:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of stuff that's where we try to do Dialogue: 0,1:33:31.43,1:33:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try and empower people to sort of take Dialogue: 0,1:33:34.46,1:33:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,control because it's like if you watch Dialogue: 0,1:33:37.19,1:33:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this and you decide to do it and get Dialogue: 0,1:33:39.35,1:33:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,better hey I don't get paid but guess Dialogue: 0,1:33:41.75,1:33:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what if if you you write to me and say Dialogue: 0,1:33:44.21,1:33:48.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know what I watched your thing with Dialogue: 0,1:33:45.74,1:33:50.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mike and I lost 50 pounds I got rid of Dialogue: 0,1:33:48.29,1:33:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my diabetes I'm paid in a totally Dialogue: 0,1:33:50.51,1:33:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,different way you know that's much more Dialogue: 0,1:33:52.25,1:33:58.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,valuable than the money throws it like Dialogue: 0,1:33:54.41,1:34:01.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh I we were able to help these people Dialogue: 0,1:33:58.54,1:34:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,feels great feels great minimal amount Dialogue: 0,1:34:01.61,1:34:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of money is gonna get Dialogue: 0,1:34:02.77,1:34:06.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for you yeah and that's the that's the Dialogue: 0,1:34:04.99,1:34:09.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,point that's the point is that people Dialogue: 0,1:34:06.46,1:34:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can can do that yeah and the book is Dialogue: 0,1:34:09.31,1:34:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great you know it goes through the Dialogue: 0,1:34:10.36,1:34:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,historical role that fasting has had in Dialogue: 0,1:34:13.06,1:34:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humankind and as a medical therapy think Dialogue: 0,1:34:14.92,1:34:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back to 1770 something or a long time Dialogue: 0,1:34:18.37,1:34:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ago so you have the books awesome it's Dialogue: 0,1:34:19.75,1:34:23.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,available as you guys watch this video Dialogue: 0,1:34:22.09,1:34:25.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it should be available on Amazon for Dialogue: 0,1:34:23.29,1:34:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pre-orders worldwide so commend you on Dialogue: 0,1:34:25.81,1:34:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all that great stuff IDM program comm if Dialogue: 0,1:34:28.30,1:34:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people want to get into the membership Dialogue: 0,1:34:29.56,1:34:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,site and get into that group setting Dialogue: 0,1:34:31.99,1:34:35.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which i think is great and by the way Dialogue: 0,1:34:33.19,1:34:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you mention like pure support there's Dialogue: 0,1:34:35.86,1:34:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the pure influence to like when doctors Dialogue: 0,1:34:37.57,1:34:40.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you have a paid speaker goes in Dialogue: 0,1:34:39.67,1:34:42.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from a room and there's all these other Dialogue: 0,1:34:40.84,1:34:44.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctors and they're pitching it and they Dialogue: 0,1:34:42.79,1:34:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy into it so it's part of the yeah so Dialogue: 0,1:34:44.95,1:34:47.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the part of the group is powerful it can Dialogue: 0,1:34:46.75,1:34:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help you lose weight and balance your Dialogue: 0,1:34:47.86,1:34:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,blood sugar - so dr. Fung thanks again Dialogue: 0,1:34:49.99,1:34:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a lot of fun coming on yeah Dialogue: 0,1:34:52.33,1:34:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you very much my pleasure all Dialogue: 0,1:34:57.04,1:35:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right all right Dialogue: 0,1:34:57.55,1:35:00.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of good stuff thank you